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After reading this article what are your thoughts?

Could this all be a Karl Rove trick as Walter Chronkite said on Larry King live this weekend?

Sounds like another political spin by the Bush administration. Its hopeless, tomorrow is the election and everyone has made up their mind. I am confidence that Kerry will win!

Sounds like another political spin by the Bush administration. Its hopeless, tomorrow is the election and everyone has made up their mind. I am confidence that Kerry will win!

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I agree.. a vote for Bush is a vote to bring more terror to the US. We need to bring back a sense of understanding to the white house. We need the world to see that we have a leader who thinks and doesn't blow people up thru kneejerk reactions.

I agree.. a vote for Bush is a vote to bring more terror to the US. We need to bring back a sense of understanding to the white house. We need the world to see that we have a leader who thinks and doesn't blow people up thru kneejerk reactions.

So basically you think we should become OBL's biatches?

So basically you think we should become OBL's biatches?

Jesus, that is the opposite of what he means. But good, logical argument though.

I guess this means New York is safe. I wish he would have contemplated this strategy of distinguishing between states about 3 1/2 years ago.

So basically you think we should become OBL's biatches?

I say we hunt down Osama and kill him!

I say we hunt down Osama and kill him!


That's a tall order little buddy!

I say we hunt down Osama and kill him!

You dems love to spew that one out, don't ya?

Although I agree we should hunt down and kill them, you can't consider it a failure on the president's part when he hasnt caught the lone arab man hiding in a cave. I would LOVE to hear Kerry's plan for catching Osama. He would probably say something like:

"I will HUNT DOWN and KILL every terrorist who intends to harm the US! I have been consistent and resolute throughout this campaign, and I meant what I said! I fought in Vietnam, I know what it's like to be in a war you don't agree with. This president has made a collossal error of judgment invading Iraq. Saddam wasn't the threat at hand! Osama Bin Laden was! When I am elected president, I will use every resource at hand to catch him! I have said from the beginning, Saddam posed an imminent threat to this nation's security and I would have removed him, but only after passing the global test; we have to make the world agree with us when we invade other countries. We can't wage war for personal economic gain! This president is watching our soldiers die while Dick Cheney gets rich off of Haliburton! That is wrong, that is just wrong."

You dems love to spew that one out, don't ya?

Although I agree we should hunt down and kill them, you can't consider it a failure on the president's part when he hasnt caught the lone arab man hiding in a cave. I would LOVE to hear Kerry's plan for catching Osama. He would probably say something like:

"I will HUNT DOWN and KILL every terrorist who intends to harm the US! I have been consistent and resolute throughout this campaign, and I meant what I said! I fought in Vietnam, I know what it's like to be in a war you don't agree with. This president has made a collossal error of judgment invading Iraq. Saddam wasn't the threat at hand! Osama Bin Laden was! When I am elected president, I will use every resource at hand to catch him! I have said from the beginning, Saddam posed an imminent threat to this nation's security and I would have removed him, but only after passing the global test; we have to make the world agree with us when we invade other countries. We can't wage war for personal economic gain! This president is watching our soldiers die while Dick Cheney gets rich off of Haliburton! That is wrong, that is just wrong."


He'll use his wind surfing board to get over there. Then wearing borrowed camo's, he'll crawl on his belly with his trusty double barrel shotgun. Let's face it if he can hunt deer like that, what makes anyone think he couldn't hunt down OBL. Afterall he's been a lifelong hunter who served in Vietnam, and also a professional Senator. This man definately has the "right stuff".

BTW Why do Kerry supporters think he'll be strong on defense? Yeah a real tough guy who voted against going into the first gulf war.

it would probably help to focus on our goal and use our resources to go after Americas true enemies who are a clear adn present danger to the US. Why are we in Iraq again and why are things going to shit there? Oh yeah because Bush is smart and thinks things through.

it would probably help to focus on our goal and use our resources to go after Americas true enemies who are a clear adn present danger to the US. Why are we in Iraq again and why are things going to shit there? Oh yeah because Bush is smart and thinks things through.

Who knows what is the actual reason for going into Iraq? I have not been invited to any NS meetings. Maybe it was for liberation, terrorism, oil, camels, wmd's, et al. One thing I have noticed is the extreme amount of terrorists' killed in Iraq everyday. Seems like a good thing to me. You know we haven't suffered any terrorist attacks on US soil here at home since 9/11, maybe because we are keeping these filthy bastards busy over there? Seems like a good policy to me.

I say we hunt down Osama and kill him!
Well, it ain't going to happen under the democrats.

Well, it ain't going to happen under the democrats.
Review the debates. Kerry was the one saying "hunt down and kill." Bush did not use that turn of phrase.

I do find it interesting that the tape may have been mistranslated, but it's not going to alter what I do tommorrow.

So basically you think we should become OBL's biatches?
How do you guys type this tripe with a straight face? I mean seriously.

I'm frustrated. What happened to the rational Conservatives, the one with out the batshit rhetoric and the "Oh Lord, Kerry will give Alabama to the terrorists if he wins, burn all our bibles and sodomize the christians with their own guns!!!!" Christ o'mighty-our discourse suffers in a bad way. Please, please bring back the rational conservatives who have an actual point-conservativism is not inherently wrong-an actual well constructed opposing argument needs to be made but instead all we ever get these days is this bullshit. Are your parents home? The grown folk want to talk now. There's not even an argument to make here, it'd be pearls before swine. It makes me very sad.

Who knows what is the actual reason for going into Iraq? I have not been invited to any NS meetings. Maybe it was for liberation, terrorism, oil, camels, wmd's, et al. One thing I have noticed is the extreme amount of terrorists' killed in Iraq everyday. Seems like a good thing to me. You know we haven't suffered any terrorist attacks on US soil here at home since 9/11, maybe because we are keeping these filthy bastards busy over there? Seems like a good policy to me.

by 'terrorists killed' you mean 'insurgents killed' and by 'insurgents killed' you mean 'people who's families were bombed to death and are a little pissed off'

How do you guys type this tripe with a straight face? I mean seriously.

I'm frustrated. What happened to the rational Conservatives, the one with out the batshit rhetoric and the "Oh Lord, Kerry will give Alabama to the terrorists if he wins, burn all our bibles and sodomize the christians with their own guns!!!!" Christ o'mighty-our discourse suffers in a bad way. Please, please bring back the rational conservatives who have an actual point-conservativism is not inherently wrong-an actual well constructed opposing argument needs to be made but instead all we ever get these days is this bullshit. Are your parents home? The grown folk want to talk now. There's not even an argument to make here, it'd be pearls before swine. It makes me very sad.

Well it really isn't tripe when you consider that OBL wants Kerry to win. He even says he won't attack those states that don't vote Bush. Now I may have taken artistic license using the biatch phrase, but it is correct. Honestly you think just because (according to OBL) states don't vote Bush, they will be safe. Basically he threatens us and many want to appease him by voting for Kerry. So we would be his biatches after all.

How was anything I stated similar to what you wrote?

Are you parents home? Your mom sure isn't!

by 'terrorists killed' you mean 'insurgents killed' and by 'insurgents killed' you mean 'people who's families were bombed to death and are a little pissed off'

Insurgents are terrorists. Face facts little buddy. Unlike what Moore said, they are not patriots, and they will not win. Let them be pissed off, they suck as fighters, use children as suicide bombers, and have to cover their faces because they are cowards at heart.

BTW I say when we slaughter them, put some bacon in their anus, and mouths.

Why is everyone saying "hunt down and kill [these terrorists]."
How about "capture and give [these terrorists] a fair trial."
That is what I would do.

Why is everyone saying "hunt down and kill [these terrorists]."
How about "capture and give [these terrorists] a fair trial."
That is what I would do.

Yeah we'll give them a fair trial before we hang them.

Who knows what is the actual reason for going into Iraq? I have not been invited to any NS meetings. Maybe it was for liberation, terrorism, oil, camels, wmd's, et al. One thing I have noticed is the extreme amount of terrorists' killed in Iraq everyday. Seems like a good thing to me. You know we haven't suffered any terrorist attacks on US soil here at home since 9/11, maybe because we are keeping these filthy bastards busy over there? Seems like a good policy to me.
By what measure are the casualities known to be terrorists? They tried that ploy in Nam too. Body counts didn't mean diddly then and they don't mean didly now.

It was a little over eight and a half years (one hundred and two months, sixteen days) between WTC attacks. Does that translate into Bill Clinton having done a good job but when Bush came in it all fell into the crapper? Going on thirty eight months is not a big whoop by any measure and it sure as hell doesn't mean Bush is to thank.

At some point you'll have to unplug your head from the neo-con propaganda machine and realize it was a squad of ninteen men who pulled off 9-11. Killing civillians in Iraq will only encourage them, not disuade them.

Yeah we'll give them a fair trial before we hang them.


By a fair trial, do you happen to mean a 'staged fair trial'? Lol. And I do believe Kerry was the one who said that the first step to stoppnig terrorism is to understand the terrorists! What a great point! Seriously, have any of you thought of why we are attacked? Its commonly said that its because of our beliefs, but a college student in a local newspaper around here made a great point: The US is so hypocritical. We don't want other countries to possess nukes, yet, the US has the greatest stock of them in the world. We don't like other countries having large, capable military. But guess what! The US has stations all around the fucking world! How would you feel if OBL had a huge military base right up your asshole? The US claims to be against dictatorships, but everyday (especially with BUSH as pres.), it seems as if the US becomes just a little bit more of a dictatorship of the world. What about this patriot act? That was unconstitional, yet it was allowed to pass. And Bush wants to ban all forms of gay marriage/union. Thats completely unconstitutional too, ESPECIALLY by today's standards.

Sorry... kind of went on an anti-bush ramble- woops! that was off topic.

I must be tired. I've been sucked in by a shitty gimmick account. You could have at least made it funny. pst tm me with your real nation

Well, it ain't going to happen under the democrats.


And it clearly ain't happened under the republicans.

BTW Why do Kerry supporters think he'll be strong on defense? Yeah a real tough guy who voted against going into the first gulf war.

Operation Desert Storm had nothing to do with defense of the US. It was the liberation of Kuwait. Iraq was no more a threat to us then than they were this time around. Matter of fact, Iraq has *never* been a real threat to us.

ODS was about oil. Nothing more, nothing less. It was about protecting the US's only interest: money.

Oh ... by the way ... something else you may want to consider before you open up your lying, neocon mouth again:

S. CON. RES. 147: Supporting the actions taken by the President with respect to Iraqi aggression against Kuwait.

101st CONGRESS, 2d session.

Bob Kerrey (D-NE) voted Nay.
JOHN Kerry (D-MA) voted YAY!

Get your Kerrys straight.

And I do believe Kerry was the one who said that the first step to stoppnig terrorism is to understand the terrorists!

No, that was me. In a letter to Bush explaining why he's an idiot.

No, that was me. In a letter to Bush explaining why he's an idiot.

:D

"I voted for it before I voted against it."

Guess who said that! Yep it's the democrats decisive wartime leader!

To me, this sounds like a Kerry endorsement big time. Osama Bin Laden is not known to offer peace treaties, he's known for sending jihadists to blow themselves up on us. Now he threatens every Bush supporter because he doesnt want Bush in office. He is more comfortable with Kerry in office, why?

This is a threat on Bush supporters, he says if you keep Bush in office i will kill you. Im a Bush supporter, you know what i say? "I hope you come for me personally because i got no problem kickin your ass". Osama Bin Laden is flat out afraid of Bush and thats what i want. I dont want to make a deal with the son of a bitch, i want him dead, obviously Osama Bin Laden is more afraid of that happening with Bush in charge then he is of Kerry being in charge. "We dont deal with terrorists", they are now telling us how to run our country, i say we tell Osama Bin Laden to kiss our ass by keeping Bush in charge. He wont change my vote with threats, he wont intimidate me, so if i wanted to send a message to OBL its "come and get me, come and get me".

"I voted for it before I voted against it."

Guess who said that! Yep it's the democrats decisive wartime leader!


Adaptation is the first mark of intelligence. The ability to change one's mind is a sign of adaptability. Bush and all of you neocons do not believe in changing your minds, no matter what happens, hence, all neocons and their leaders are less intelligent than even the most simple invertebrates.

But, then, we all knew that already.

Ever see the movie "Twister"? Cary Elwes refused to listen to Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton when they told him to get out of the way because he suspected they were trying to mislead him. Cary Elwes then got picked up by a tornado in his truck and slammed back into the ground to a firey death.

Bush (and you) would have said that Helen and Bill "flip-flopped".

Not even as smart as monkeys.

Yeesh.

Adaptation is the first mark of intelligence. The ability to change one's mind is a sign of adaptability. Bush and all of you neocons do not believe in changing your minds, no matter what happens, hence, all neocons and their leaders are less intelligent than even the most simple invertebrates.

But, then, we all knew that already.

Ever see the movie "Twister"? Cary Elwes refused to listen to Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton when they told him to get out of the way because he suspected they were trying to mislead him. Cary Elwes then got picked up by a tornado in his truck and slammed back into the ground to a firey death.

Bush (and you) would have said that Helen and Bill "flip-flopped".

Not even as smart as monkeys.

Yeesh.

You're an idiot. Yes, I believe the flip-flop thing was overplayed, and yes, sometimes life requires you to change your mind, but I would rather have a president who does what he says he will do and doesn't change his mind because a few people don't like it, than one who waivers at the slightest hint of discourse, then makes up a lame excuse to be on both sides of the issue.

Really chaps, the whole flip flop thing is a bit moot now, what?

It's time to forget about "herman munster" once an for all and move on to the next phase. Attacking/defending Bush with/from ad hominem attacks.

That's how the game is played.

You're an idiot. Yes, I believe the flip-flop thing was overplayed, and yes, sometimes life requires you to change your mind, but I would rather have a president who does what he says he will do and doesn't change his mind because a few people don't like it, than one who waivers at the slightest hint of discourse, then makes up a lame excuse to be on both sides of the issue.
iraqi insrugents for president! they always behead the infidels if their demands arnt met!

To me, this sounds like a Kerry endorsement big time. Osama Bin Laden is not known to offer peace treaties, he's known for sending jihadists to blow themselves up on us. Now he threatens every Bush supporter because he doesnt want Bush in office. He is more comfortable with Kerry in office, why?

This is a threat on Bush supporters, he says if you keep Bush in office i will kill you. Im a Bush supporter, you know what i say? "I hope you come for me personally because i got no problem kickin your ass". Osama Bin Laden is flat out afraid of Bush and thats what i want. I dont want to make a deal with the son of a bitch, i want him dead, obviously Osama Bin Laden is more afraid of that happening with Bush in charge then he is of Kerry being in charge. "We dont deal with terrorists", they are now telling us how to run our country, i say we tell Osama Bin Laden to kiss our ass by keeping Bush in charge. He wont change my vote with threats, he wont intimidate me, so if i wanted to send a message to OBL its "come and get me, come and get me".
Um Osama liked Bush for recruitment. He only did the video to get Bush elected. Seriously. You believe everything Osama says?

You dems love to spew that one out, don't ya?

Although I agree we should hunt down and kill them, you can't consider it a failure on the president's part when he hasnt caught the lone arab man hiding in a cave. I would LOVE to hear Kerry's plan for catching Osama. He would probably say something like:

"I will HUNT DOWN and KILL every terrorist who intends to harm the US! I have been consistent and resolute throughout this campaign, and I meant what I said! I fought in Vietnam, I know what it's like to be in a war you don't agree with. This president has made a collossal error of judgment invading Iraq. Saddam wasn't the threat at hand! Osama Bin Laden was! When I am elected president, I will use every resource at hand to catch him! I have said from the beginning, Saddam posed an imminent threat to this nation's security and I would have removed him, but only after passing the global test; we have to make the world agree with us when we invade other countries. We can't wage war for personal economic gain! This president is watching our soldiers die while Dick Cheney gets rich off of Haliburton! That is wrong, that is just wrong."

Hate to burst your bubble but I DO consider it Bush's failure and he's a fucking total dick to make the election about gay marriage and not the terrorists. Those of you who think gay marriage is more important, half the voting public, you deserve OBL. All it takes for you guys is for Bush to SAY he's captured or killed 75% of al queda and you call it good. Forget that thousands, 5 thousand people have been arrested and none of them convicted. Not one single conviction for terrorism. So far he's fallen behind even that big pussy Clinton. Taliban and al queda still operating in Afghanistan, Pakistan and now Iraq insurgents funded by our friends the Saudis and Syria. Nice scorecard you fucking retard.