NationStates Jolt Archive

What are the chances we have another big screw up in the election?

Im giving it 2 to 1 odds.

Actually I sort of hope we do. I had a great laugh in 2000 with all the commotion.

Heh, I guess someone else is as annoyed with these 'predictions' as I'm getting...

As much as I don't want to see Bush win, I would still love to see John Kerry go crazy, start yelling, and grow a beard like Gore did.

As much as I don't want to see Bush win, I would still love to see John Kerry go crazy, start yelling, and grow a beard like Gore did.

Gore has really lost it. I Kerry would ever lose it like that no matter what happened.

On the plus side, America really dodged a bullet with regardsto Gore. Can you image what would have happened if he waspresident, and Al Quada attacked and he lost it? He might have ended up nuking the Middle East or at least liberating one of the Canary Islands.

The only person who will win this election is Bin Laden. No matter who gets in, he'll get exactly what he wants - four more bumper years for Al-Qaeda's recruitment efforts.

It's Coke, it's Pepsi, it's American Democracy, but it's still not good for your teeth.

But remember Howard Dean in Iowa? Classic American Democrat...or any other politician for that matter.

comedy central's the daily show with Jon Stewart: Election 2004, prelude to a recount

Gore has really lost it. I Kerry would ever lose it like that no matter what happened.

On the plus side, America really dodged a bullet with regardsto Gore. Can you image what would have happened if he waspresident, and Al Quada attacked and he lost it? He might have ended up nuking the Middle East or at least liberating one of the Canary Islands.

Gore has become a case study. Just watching him these days is troubling. This is what happens when one is bred and raised for one purpose and then loses that purpose. He has no purpose and has lost his sense of self.

Had he been president, he may well have tried to attack the Canary Islands. As it was, he grew that beard just in time for 9/11 and managed to hold that Global Warming speech on the coldest day on record. Excellent timing Mr. Gore.

Gore has become a case study. Just watching him these days is troubling. This is what happens when one is bred and raised for one purpose and then loses that purpose. He has no purpose and has lost his sense of self.

Had he been president, he may well have tried to attack the Canary Islands. As it was, he grew that beard just in time for 9/11 and managed to hold that Global Warming speech on the coldest day on record. Excellent timing Mr. Gore.

I can't imagine Gore going crazy after 9/11, I don't see any rational explanation for that. But I completely agree that the presidency was what he had worked the previous 25-30 years to accomplish. Everyone tells him he won, but they come back and tell him that he did indeed get a majority of the votes, but he still loses due to technicalities that are decided upon by friends and relatives of his opponent.

Imagine getting the most votes to be the leader of the free world one day and being nothing the next day. I don't think there is one of us on NS who wouldn't go a little crazy if that happened to them.

As it was, he grew that beard just in time for 9/11 and managed to hold that Global Warming speech on the coldest day on record. Excellent timing Mr. Gore.

Which does sound kinda funny, but as you should know yourself, being that you're from Florida, Global Warming is only partly about hot days. It's much more to do with the ever-widening extremes in weather and climate conditions than with wiping your forehead and saying, 'Phew, it's hot'.

You're seeing extraordinary hurricane seasons, up here where I am we're seeing extraordinarily hot-and-cold seasons, i.e. stiflingly hot humid summers, numbingly cold winters. Other parts of the world, like Bangladesh, are seeing increasingly deadly monsoon seasons.

'Global Warming'...it's a bit of a misnomer, as far as I'm concerned. 'Global Geez, What's Up With This Weather?' fits the bill more to my liking.

Which does sound kinda funny, but as you should know yourself, being that you're from Florida, Global Warming is only partly about hot days. It's much more to do with the ever-widening extremes in weather and climate conditions than with wiping your forehead and saying, 'Phew, it's hot'.

You're seeing extraordinary hurricane seasons, up here where I am we're seeing extraordinarily hot-and-cold seasons, i.e. stiflingly hot humid summers, numbingly cold winters. Other parts of the world, like Bangladesh, are seeing increasingly deadly monsoon seasons.

'Global Warming'...it's a bit of a misnomer, as far as I'm concerned. 'Global Geez, What's Up With This Weather?' fits the bill more to my liking.

Yes, but who is to say that this is not a "normal" weather phase? We have no idea about weather patterns over a long time span. We "think" we know, but we know so little.

Or "Global Geez, My Balls Can't Take This Weather" as Lewis Black might say.

Or "Global Geez, My Balls Can't Take This Weather" as Lewis Black might say.

Well, it is 85F here today with a 10% chance of showers in the afternoon. it is the beginning of the dry season. Lows in the 60's at night and into the 80's during the day. Just perfect.

Yes, but who is to say that this is not a "normal" weather phase? We have no idea about weather patterns over a long time span. We "think" we know, but we know so little.

All the more reason to study it, then dontcha think? I'd hate for us to assume everything is hunky-dory only to have it turn out too too late that we were dead wrong, 'cause when you're dead wrong, you're uhhh...well, usually not in a position to do much about it. Being dead and all.

All the more reason to study it, then dontcha think? I'd hate for us to assume everything is hunky-dory only to have it turn out too too late that we were dead wrong, 'cause when you're dead wrong, you're uhhh...well, usually not in a position to do much about it. Being dead and all.

Well....the only way to study it is to watch it...which we have done for what...150 years? So who is to say that every 3000-4000 years we get some wild changes for about 50 years. We might be calling that "Global Warming" when it is just something that happens every once in awhile in universal time.

Well, it is 85F here today with a 10% chance of showers in the afternoon. it is the beginning of the dry season. Lows in the 60's at night and into the 80's during the day. Just perfect.

Well, here in Southern Illinois, the forecast for today was a low of 55 and a high of 77. Thats a difference of 22 degrees in one day. And my balls can't take it.

And by Monday next week: High of 46, Low of 22

Well, here in Southern Illinois, the forecast for today was a low of 55 and a high of 77. Thats a difference of 22 degrees in one day. And my balls can't take it.

And by Monday next week: High of 46, Low of 22

Yeah, I lived in Southern Illinois for 8 years when I was stationed at Scott AFB. I hated those winters.

More so, who says nature has our best interest at heart? Just because nature acts one way, or has in the past, or may in the future, does not mean that's the best for the planet. Normality=history. Normality does not = the best or right way.

When you really stop to think about it the world is still leaving an ice age so it makes sense that glaciers are melting and the world is getting warmer. Dinosaurs lived millions of years in wrm weather and the mammoths lived a very long time in the cold. Humans are catching the back end of the glaciers melting again. We really have no perspective when you compare our short existence to that of other species.

Well....the only way to study it is to watch it...which we have done for what...150 years? So who is to say that every 3000-4000 years we get some wild changes for about 50 years. We might be calling that "Global Warming" when it is just something that happens every once in awhile in universal time.

I agree with you. Who is to say it's abnormal, or normal for that matter? We need science to work for us, the people, and not to work for political or economic agendas. That means we have to listen openly to the information provided to us by meteorologists and other specialized fields, and deal head-on with information we might (or someone, somewhere might) not like hearing.

I agree with you. Who is to say it's abnormal, or normal for that matter? We need science to work for us, the people, and not to work for political or economic agendas. That means we have to listen openly to the information provided to us by meteorologists and other specialized fields, and deal head-on with information we might (or someone, somewhere might) not like hearing.

So the rush of the "Global Warming" crowd is a bit premature don't you think? They are speculating and demanding changes based on their speculations. A dangerous thing to do most of the time.

Are any of us meteorologists? Cause if not, we should probably just admit that we really don't know shit about the weather and end this circle jerk of a conversation.

I'll get us started, I'm not a meteorologist and I don't know shit about the weather. If there is a hole in ozone, I'm still not going to carpool, so I guess it doesn't matter at all to me.

Well, you got me, I'm not a meteorologist either, so I'm pretty much out of my depth as well. I still think there's more than just a tendency to downplay the information at hand in order to advance an agenda not just of 'business as usual', but of expanding the sort of business scientists claim is causing climate change.

I do recall a news item that went out over the CBC this summer talking about birds and mosquitoes being seen/encountered north of the Arctic circle, which perplexed the Innu, who have been there for many many thousands of years, and who'd never seen these southern critters before in their history. They're getting worried. And their shorelines are eroding, too, which they haven't seen before. Rivers emptying into the Arctic ocean are getting choppier, the brackish water is moving further inland...

But I don't know for sure, I'm not a meteorologist. I'm also not a dupe, for either side of the argument. But I am listening...

If we are going by the temperature of the planet, then our time as humans is almost over. Our expansion as a species coincided with the only real temperature level-off in history. So from a history standpoint, it's about to get too hot for humans to live on the face of the planet, but that's ok, right? Because that's nature for you! And whatever nature does, we are ok with, even if it involves kill off the human race.

At some point we will have to start controlling nature, and not just going with whatever happens, because history shows that nature cares not for preserving life or anything other than it's survival.

"Dewey Beats Truman"? Man this is an old thread. Are any of you still alive?