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Do you think the first black American president will be assassinated?

Right-Wing America
31-10-2004, 21:39
I think there is a very high chance. I mean there are a lot of white people located in the south(and north west) who will probably never stand for America having a black leader and as a result one of them will get the idea to shot the newly elected leader at a political rally or something. What do you guys think?
Incertonia
31-10-2004, 21:43
I think attempts will certainly be made, but as to whether or not they succeed is another matter altogether. The Secret Service has done a pretty good job with keeping Presidents alive for the 40 years since Kennedy, and there hasn't been a close attempt since Reagan. They're good at what they do.
The God King Eru-sama
31-10-2004, 21:43
... then the poetic justice comes when the white trash spends the rest of their life rotting in prison on the recieving end of gangbangs by big black men as well as tossing salad.
Marxlan
31-10-2004, 21:44
I'm pretty sure there are some black people out there that don't like the idea of a rich white man running their country, either. How many black men have assassinated white presidents?
Klonor
31-10-2004, 21:45
An attempt? Definitely. Will it succeed? Probably not. Like Incertonia said, the Secret Service has a lot of resources to make sure it doesn't happen.
CSW
31-10-2004, 21:45
UWF, making assassination threats against the president won't make the SS very happy.
Incertonia
31-10-2004, 21:45
I'm pretty sure there are some black people out there that don't like the idea of a rich white man running their country, either. How many black men have assassinated white presidents?
I think attempted presidential assassination is the perfect example of white on white crime. :D
Keruvalia
31-10-2004, 21:47
Do you think the first black American president will be assassinated?

No.
The God King Eru-sama
31-10-2004, 21:48
they never caught the guy who shot larry flint
and i'm sure there a plenty of countrys that would have the man that shot the first black press.

United States Secret Service vs Trailer Trash. Anyone taking bets?
Right-Wing America
31-10-2004, 21:52
I'm pretty sure there are some black people out there that don't like the idea of a rich white man running their country, either. How many black men have assassinated white presidents?

Yes but imagine a scenario where a white man is elected president of Nigeria or the African republic of the Congo how long do you think he will last?
Drunk Scotsman
31-10-2004, 21:52
This is just from my experience here in Scotland but most racists are either stupid old people or neds (10-29 troublemakers who act tough and pick on people weaker than them). I don't think any of em would have the ability or the guts to do somthing like that.Its probably different over in USA though.
Incertonia
31-10-2004, 21:55
trailer trash??
i think you under estimate it will probably a vet. some hardcore spec. ops. type person
with a plan and an untracable gun
Nah--it'll be the dumbass who lived in the trailer next to mine when I was growing up, the dumbass who still calls black people porch monkeys and blames his inability to get a job that pays more than six bucks an hour on the Jews and the nigras.
Siljhouettes
31-10-2004, 21:56
No. Nobody killed Nelson Mandela, and that was in a country where white people are insanely racist.
Utracia
31-10-2004, 21:56
Doubtful. If he can get elected, it reduces the chance right a way. Besides, I hope the Secret Service isn't to incompetant to protect a president anymore. You'd think they'd learn how to bodyguard by the time a black president is elected.
Marxlan
31-10-2004, 22:11
Yes but imagine a scenario where a white man is elected president of Nigeria or the African republic of the Congo how long do you think he will last?
Not too long, but I hardly think that's analogous to a president being elected from a group which has traditionally been oppressed, considering that a white president in one of these countries would represent a long history of oppression of the majority by rich white countries, just as rich white presidents in the United States might represent exactly the same thing as far as a black man is concerned. Now, there's certainly more black people in the Congo or Nigeria then white people, but numbers are hardly important because it takes a handful of people to carry out an assassination (And I'm pretty sure the majority didn't hate Kennedy). Sure, there are angry white folk in the US, but there are angry black folk in the US too. Why is one group more likely to kill a president of a certain race than the other group?
Morotican
31-10-2004, 22:11
Two points - although Mandela was not asasinated, he didn't have an easy twenty odd years in prison.

And you got the idea for this thread from reading tom clancy, didn't you?
HadesRulesMuch
31-10-2004, 22:19
I think attempts will certainly be made, but as to whether or not they succeed is another matter altogether. The Secret Service has done a pretty good job with keeping Presidents alive for the 40 years since Kennedy, and there hasn't been a close attempt since Reagan. They're good at what they do.
And yet, Reagan finished the speach with a bullet in him. That man was about as cool as any president could be.

And yes, I'm sure that he will probably be assasinated. You cannot have perfect protection no matter what. There will be openings, and someone will use them. However, I think it would be great if the first black President was a Republican. Then they would probably not be shot. Just my two cents.
SuperGroovedom
31-10-2004, 22:21
I doubt America will have a black president for a very long time. By the time hey do, they might be mostly over this whole racism schtick. But who knows?
Enodscopia
31-10-2004, 22:45
I don't think America will ever have a black president in my life time atleast. But if there was I wouldn't have any problem with it unless he was gay, communist, socialist, or for other madness like that.
New Anthrus
31-10-2004, 22:46
This is just from my experience here in Scotland but most racists are either stupid old people or neds (10-29 troublemakers who act tough and pick on people weaker than them). I don't think any of em would have the ability or the guts to do somthing like that.Its probably different over in USA though.
They're younger here, but not in high regard by most people in the US. The main difference, of course, is that it's not just whites over here that are rascist. There are a few black rascist groups as well, most famously, the MOVE group back in the eighties.
Morotican
31-10-2004, 22:46
Considering the affinity you have with guns im surprised there havent been more. Is it true you can buy rela guns over ther in k-mart? If it is, well, you only have yourselves to blame for gun crime really.
New Anthrus
31-10-2004, 22:48
You know, it's sort of a random question, but why didn't more people try to assasinate Bush? I mean, as he is that polarizing of a figure, there must be quite a few people who madly hate him. And of course, I wonder why al-Qaeda hasn't tried it. After all, a crazy man with an insane love for Jodie Foster nearly did it on Reagan.
Morotican
31-10-2004, 22:55
Why would you assasinate Bush? hes too useless to bother with.
Right-Wing America
31-10-2004, 23:02
Why would you assasinate Bush? hes too useless to bother with.

I also heard a theory that Dick Cheney is the one with the real power here, he could just be using Bush as a puppet.
Zincite
31-10-2004, 23:09
An attempt, at least, will probably be made, but not directly because of racism. Rather, since racism exists, this black president will have to be extra charismatic to be elected, and the most charismatic presidents, historically, are the ones that people try to assassinate. I mean, look at Reagan - he won landslide numbers of electoral votes for both his terms, it's not like he was unpopular.

And yes, Cheney is the devil in the house; Bush is just his monkey servant.
Gurnee
31-10-2004, 23:11
I definetly think there would be attempts. I often think about it with the current Prez (not that I'd ever actually do it), but I think a black president would definetly draw assassination attempts.
Mac the Man
31-10-2004, 23:39
You know, it's sort of a random question, but why didn't more people try to assasinate Bush? I mean, as he is that polarizing of a figure, there must be quite a few people who madly hate him. And of course, I wonder why al-Qaeda hasn't tried it. After all, a crazy man with an insane love for Jodie Foster nearly did it on Reagan.

No one tried because all the people who own the kind of guns that would be useful love bush.

Look at the last assainations and attempts. We're talking ex-military fanatics usually who strongly disagree with something a president has done or exemplifies, but also believes it has made a personal difference in their lives. What most people disagree with Bush about is making differences overseas (correctly or no).

As to a black president ... I was seriously hoping Colin Powell would run, when was it, in '96 or '00? He was considering it, but came on the news saying he'd received too many threats to his own life, but more importantly to the lives of his family members and decided not to run.

Personally, I hope they run Rice in '08 ... especially if it's against Hillary. Whether the repubs win or lose, that'd be a major feather in their cap.
Siljhouettes
31-10-2004, 23:54
You know, it's sort of a random question, but why didn't more people try to assasinate Bush? I mean, as he is that polarizing of a figure, there must be quite a few people who madly hate him.
But most people realise that killing Bush makes Cheney the president. That would probably be far worse. That considered, it's a surprise nobody has tried to assassinate Cheney.
Right-Wing America
01-11-2004, 00:12
But most people realise that killing Bush makes Cheney the president. That would probably be far worse. That considered, it's a surprise nobody has tried to assassinate Cheney.

maybe Cheney wants someone to get rid of Bush(who knows what goes on in his sick old twisted mind) I could just see it now, Bush elected president for 2nd term, massive violent protest ensues, CIA agent disquised as an angry civilian shoots and kills Bush, Cheney is granted power and immidietly puts the nation in emergency state, the US invades Canada heh j/k a situation such as this is immpossible to occur.......or is it?
Chodolo
01-11-2004, 01:08
trailer trash??
i think you under estimate it will probably a vet. some hardcore spec. ops. type person
with a plan and an untracable gun
http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~karen/Photo/redneck.jpg
Zanon
01-11-2004, 01:35
Hey thanks for stereo typing most of the south and west. Believe it or not not all southerners hate blacks! GASP! I wouldn't care as long as he/she was a good president.
Chodolo
01-11-2004, 01:56
Hey thanks for stereo typing most of the south and west. Believe it or not not all southerners hate blacks! GASP! I wouldn't care as long as he/she was a good president.
I'm just poking fun at the the nazi, no need to get defensive. :D
La Terra di Liberta
01-11-2004, 02:19
Yes because some racist fuck from the KKK will shoot him while he's touring around the southern US because he bet the Governor from Alabama, who said gay people should be deported to Canada for being gay, for President. By the way, the redneck photo is hilarious.
Letila
01-11-2004, 02:20
now what are you trying to start with that??

What? You don't recognize a fellow reactionary redneck?
General Powell
01-11-2004, 02:33
I'm pretty sure there are some black people out there that don't like the idea of a rich white man running their country, either. How many black men have assassinated white presidents?

None. All the U.S. presidents that have been assassinated (or attempts made at assassination) have been the victim of white males.
Letila
01-11-2004, 02:36
i was thinking these guys

Why would they support your foolish cause?
Incertonia
01-11-2004, 02:36
And yet, Reagan finished the speach with a bullet in him. That man was about as cool as any president could be.
Huh? Reagan was shot on the street and was hustled into the limo so fast that his head was smacked on the door, and he was rushed to the hospital. I was at home that day and saw it on tv--saw it again and again and again as a matter of fact.
La Terra di Liberta
01-11-2004, 02:46
Why would they support your foolish cause?



What, does he want to kill the 1st Black President already?
CRACKPIE
01-11-2004, 02:56
trailer trash??
i think you under estimate it will probably a vet. some hardcore spec. ops. type person
with a plan and an untracable gun
who'll be 96 by the time that happens.
Sorry, uwf, youll have to do it yourself. and Ill be waiting for you :sniper:
CRACKPIE
01-11-2004, 02:59
http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~karen/Photo/redneck.jpg
LOL!! ROFLMFAO!!!!! THATS FUCKIN HILARIOUS!!!!
Chodolo
01-11-2004, 03:02
What, does he want to kill the 1st Black President already?
He IS a nazi...:p
CRACKPIE
01-11-2004, 03:02
What, does he want to kill the 1st Black President already?

he already bought the ammo and loaded it into his gun. In fact, I wouldnt be surprised if he spends the next 8/20/40 years waitying outside the white house, just waiting for it to happen.
CRACKPIE
01-11-2004, 03:16
is that a thret
only if you really do try to kill him/her. Which wouldnt surprise me
Superpower07
01-11-2004, 03:17
Too late!

You people can't assassinate the 1st black president - Bill Clinton is no longer in office.

(note: I have no idea myself whether or not he is, but Toni Morrison nicknamed him that)
La Terra di Liberta
01-11-2004, 03:17
is that a thret



If you are serious, you'll have more than death threats coming your way.
CRACKPIE
01-11-2004, 03:21
If you are serious, you'll have more than death threats coming your way.
I still dont know if he's serious.
CRACKPIE
01-11-2004, 03:23
well i doubt that it will happen in my life time
i know my children will know what to do but like i said some former spec ops guy will do it
or maybe even the blacks them selves like the new black panther party
dammit! he can have children!
beleive me, if thres a merciful god, your nuts will fall off.
If not *draws knife* Ill have to play god :D
The Class A Cows
01-11-2004, 03:23
I think there is a very high chance. I mean there are a lot of white people located in the south(and north west) who will probably never stand for America having a black leader and as a result one of them will get the idea to shot the newly elected leader at a political rally or something. What do you guys think?

I think its a laughable assumption. Perhaps there will be an assination threat but certainly not due to race. People like to believe they are still living in "better times" but in reality the old predjudices are probably gone for good, awaiting to be replaced by new ones.
Superpower07
01-11-2004, 03:24
People, how can you assassinate Bill Clinton? He no longer has political power

It's NOT me who said he's the "1st black president"; that was Toni Morrison
Chodolo
01-11-2004, 03:28
I think there is a very high chance. I mean there are a lot of white people located in the south(and north west) who will probably never stand for America having a black leader and as a result one of them will get the idea to shot the newly elected leader at a political rally or something. What do you guys think?
I think you are an idiot. :)
Chodolo
01-11-2004, 03:30
http://www.news-at-ten.tv/articles/images/redneck.jpg
I hate dem negroes!!!
The Class A Cows
01-11-2004, 03:43
People, how can you assassinate Bill Clinton? He no longer has political power

Have you seen his ugly mug? :S
Right-Wing America
01-11-2004, 04:14
I think you are an idiot. :)

Same to you sir :)
THE LOST PLANET
01-11-2004, 04:22
Actually there will probably by a Black VP before there is ever a Black president. That will be a whole other tangle of problems, there's the old joke about black's standing in line to take a shot at the president if that ever happens. The simple solution of course is if ever a black develops the base to contend for president, his running mate should also be black, then simply killing the president because of his color would be pointless, his successor would also be black.
Isanyonehome
01-11-2004, 04:46
This is just from my experience here in Scotland but most racists are either stupid old people or neds (10-29 troublemakers who act tough and pick on people weaker than them). I don't think any of em would have the ability or the guts to do somthing like that.Its probably different over in USA though.


Not really, stupid people the world over are pretty similar
Styvonia
04-11-2004, 11:34
Not really, stupid people the world over are pretty similar

But in Scotland guns are harder to come buy

"Prime Minister Assasinated with Beer Bottle" doesn't have the same ring to it
The Ulterior Culture
04-11-2004, 11:49
I think there is a very high chance. I mean there are a lot of white people located in the south(and north west) who will probably never stand for America having a black leader and as a result one of them will get the idea to shot the newly elected leader at a political rally or something. What do you guys think?

I predict that there will never be a black american president.

It's amazing that every us president has been a white male...
Helioterra
04-11-2004, 12:06
And you got the idea for this thread from reading tom clancy, didn't you?
Or watching 24?
Helioterra
04-11-2004, 12:17
But in Scotland guns are harder to come buy

"Prime Minister Assasinated with Beer Bottle" doesn't have the same ring to it
Well someone managed to assasinate Sweden's prime minister in 1986 (with gun) and a loonie murderd their Foreign minister with knife in 2003.

ps They still don't know who was behind the murder of Olof Palme.
The Imperial Navy
04-11-2004, 12:26
"YEEE HAAAWWW! MA! WE GONNA HAVE A LYNCHIN'!"

I hate hicks. Yes some of them aren't evil, but I just don't like the accent.
Druthulhu
04-11-2004, 13:07
"YEEE HAAAWWW! MA! WE GONNA HAVE A LYNCHIN'!"

I hate hicks. Yes some of them aren't evil, but I just don't like the accent.

BIGOT!!! :mad:
The Imperial Navy
04-11-2004, 13:17
BIGOT!!! :mad:

:p
El negro de jeremy
04-11-2004, 15:17
If their was a black president, he would be smart enough to get a mexican vp. Than no one would kill him because that would open up the borders.
Conceptualists
04-11-2004, 15:22
If their was a black president, he would be smart enough to get a mexican vp. Than no one would kill him because that would open up the borders.
Reminds of what Muhammad Ali said when asked if he would ever run for President. "I should be Vice President. That way you know that the President will never be shot"
LauraGrad
04-11-2004, 15:40
I don't know. I mean there have been some unpopular/there are some unpopular presidents. Realisticly a black man-cos there is no hope in hell for a black woman(it would be very cool if a black woman ran) won't get elected for a while maybe 20 years. I know there is the senator elect Barack Obama? but I'm not sure if the US is ready for a democratic black guy to be elected. I sure hope that when it happens he won't be elected.
Angry Keep Left Signs
04-11-2004, 15:45
I think there is a very high chance. I mean there are a lot of white people located in the south(and north west) who will probably never stand for America having a black leader and as a result one of them will get the idea to shot the newly elected leader at a political rally or something. What do you guys think?

Black president my ass!
Druthulhu
04-11-2004, 15:48
Black president my ass!

Lookin' forward to it, ass! ;)
Angry Keep Left Signs
04-11-2004, 15:52
Lookin' forward to it, ass! ;)

You misunderstood me.

I want there to be one but by the look of yesterday's result it's a long way off.
The Imperial Navy
04-11-2004, 15:53
We should elect some sort of vegetable president. it's be just as useful, but more popular.
Angry Keep Left Signs
04-11-2004, 15:56
We should elect some sort of vegetable president. it's be just as useful, but more popular.

Especially one that's grown into a rude and amusing shape.
Druthulhu
04-11-2004, 16:05
You misunderstood me.

I want there to be one but by the look of yesterday's result it's a long way off.

What makes you think you misunderstood me?

I agree with you, and I am well known as an ass! :D
Angry Keep Left Signs
04-11-2004, 16:06
What makes you think you misunderstood me?

I agree with you, and I am well known as an ass! :D

Yellow!
Druthulhu
04-11-2004, 16:07
Yellow!

Damn you're fast! :eek:
Angry Keep Left Signs
04-11-2004, 16:12
Damn you're fast! :eek:

Thank yoou Mr Spoon
The Imperial Navy
04-11-2004, 16:15
What makes you think you misunderstood me?

I agree with you, and I am well known as an ass! :D

no, he MISUNDERESTIMATED you! ha ha ha! :D