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What are your plans if Bush is re-elected?

Grenval
31-10-2004, 07:52
My plans are to move to Canada. The guy who sits next to me in Latin class will be heading for Scotland. Another nation said they would just join the Anarchists and go with the mass rioting and pillaging.

So what are your plans?

Oh, and by the way, if you are conservative, I do not care what your plans are, unless your post is funny, because humor is always good.
Catholic Germany
31-10-2004, 07:53
Phillipines!
Ice Hockey Players
31-10-2004, 07:54
Look for a job in Canada. But first, apply for Canadian citizenship. I am going on a weekend trip up to Niagara Falls the weekend of the 12th-14th, and there will be les of a chance that i come back if (when) Bush is re-elected.
Andaluciae
31-10-2004, 07:56
ummmm... keep going to college here in Columbus. What else? It's not like Bush is going start summarily executing Americans in the streets.
Natural Choice
31-10-2004, 07:59
We welcome those of you who care so little for this nation that should you political candidate lose, you would leave. I will do the same if Bush is elected as I will if Kerry is elected. I will go on with my life.
Pepe Dominguez
31-10-2004, 08:02
We welcome those of you who care so little for this nation that should you political candidate lose, you would leave. I will do the same if Bush is elected as I will if Kerry is elected. I will go on with my life.

George Soros says he'll be joining a monastery, as if one would take him. I just thought that was funny. :p
New Midgetopolis
31-10-2004, 08:03
What will I do if he gets re-elected? Celebrate that despite the media doing everything in their power to run the most biased and hateful campaign in US history, voters were smart enough to see through the media's lies.
Rechze
31-10-2004, 08:04
I would go to Quebec. But then I do not live in America

note: Why am I even responding then?
Ogiek
31-10-2004, 08:06
No need to make plans - Kerry is a lock. It won't even be electorally close.
Natural Choice
31-10-2004, 08:06
George Soros says he'll be joining a monastery, as if one would take him. I just thought that was funny. :p
Yeah, I just saw tht. THe man has ruined millions of lives, and acts as if all would be okay if he ran away to be a monk. :gundge:
Pepe Dominguez
31-10-2004, 08:08
What will I do if he gets re-elected? Celebrate that despite the media doing everything in their power to run the most biased and hateful campaign in US history, voters were smart enough to see through the media's lies.

But didn't you hear? CBS said Bush missed his drug test, even though the military didn't do drug tests back then.. it's proof he was a crack addict!

They have the documents to prove it! ;)

And don't forget the AP report: crowds booed wildly at a Bush event when they heard Clinton was going in for surgery.. they're all heartless monsters!
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:09
I'm going to France next semester to study abroad no matter how the election turns out. If Bush wins, I'm staying there.
Ice Hockey Players
31-10-2004, 08:10
No need to make plans - Kerry is a lock. It won't even be electorally close.

Ummm...not sure what parallel universe you're from, but in this universe, Bush is going to win hands down.
Evinsia
31-10-2004, 08:11
When I heard the news, I'd strip completely naked and fire a rifle into the side of a hill while doing the chicken dance. (It rocks living in a rural area :) )
The next day, I'd carry a newspaper with the headline announcing the inevitable Bush victory around my neck. I'd also fly the American flag.
Pepe Dominguez
31-10-2004, 08:11
I'm going to France next semester to study abroad no matter how the election turns out. If Bush wins, I'm staying there.

Sounds fun! Arabic might serve you better as a language if you're really gonna make it permanent though, living there. ;)
Roach-Busters
31-10-2004, 08:12
A)Be really, really pissed off that Bush won

B)Throw a humongous party to celebrate the fact that Kerry lost

C)In other words, I'd have mixed feelings
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:14
No need to make plans - Kerry is a lock. It won't even be electorally close.

Ummm...not sure what parallel universe you're from, but in this universe, Bush is going to win hands down.I think both of you are hilarious for trying to predict it. None of the polls are accurate. Everyone's split. There will probably be loads of election fraud. And you think you can predict it either way?

Sounds fun! Arabic might serve you better as a language if you're really gonna make it permanent though, living there. ;)I hope you're not implying that Arabir is more important to learn than French for living in France. I know some French people who would be seriously pissed off at you if that's the case ;)

Arabic is impossible to learn. I have tried.
Nycton
31-10-2004, 08:17
I am betting every single one of you that says you will move your bullshitting yourself. I'm Republican, and if Kerry wins i'll sigh and go on with my life and look forward to 2008. It's like what Andaluciae said, it's not like either candidate is going to just start executing people on the street.
Roach-Busters
31-10-2004, 08:17
I'm going to France next semester to study abroad no matter how the election turns out. If Bush wins, I'm staying there.

How do you become a foreign exchange student? I want to go to Thailand (where my girlfriend lives).
Rechze
31-10-2004, 08:18
Arabic is impossible to learn. I have tried.

yay, French! half of the words are the same as in english. AYMK
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:22
I am betting every single one of you that says you will move your bullshitting yourself. I'm Republican, and if Kerry wins i'll sigh and go on with my life and look forward to 2008. It's like what Andaluciae said, it's not like either candidate is going to just start executing people on the street.No, I honestly am moving. I've got my visa and everything.

How do you become a foreign exchange student? I want to go to Thailand (where my girlfriend lives).Your school should have some kind of study abroad office. I'd go to them. Be prepared to come up with a better reason to study there than your grilfriend, my office doesn't take kindly to reasons like that. And my school has no program in Thailand - don't know for your school - but if you really, really want to go there, you can usually make it, it just might be a much bigger headache than it's worth.

yay, French! half of the words are the same as in english. AYMKYeah, but that doesn't mean French is easy. Its verbs are a nightmare. And I've been studying it for 6 years and am still so-so at it.
Evinsia
31-10-2004, 08:22
You think Arabic's hard to learn? Try Basque.
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:23
You think Arabic's hard to learn? Try Basque.Yes I do. The symbols are really impossible. And I don't have a clue what Basque is.
Pisgah Forest
31-10-2004, 08:24
It's not like Bush is going start summarily executing Americans in the streets.

No, probably not. But according to the PATRIOT act, you can pretty much be disappeared--ie locked up indefinitely without charges, trial, legal representation, etc.--if he says you might be a terrorist. Fun times.

Thus, Canada (at least I'll definitely be making sure my passport's set).
Pepe Dominguez
31-10-2004, 08:27
Yes I do. The symbols are really impossible. And I don't have a clue what Basque is.

It's not actually that bad.. I managed to learn to read (sound out) Arabic in a few days using a computer program and a book. Once you have the alphabet down, it's no cakewalk learning the language itself though..
Rechze
31-10-2004, 08:30
You think Arabic's hard to learn? Try Basque.

Khmer also looks impossible.
Grenval
31-10-2004, 08:30
ummmm... keep going to college here in Columbus. What else? It's not like Bush is going start summarily executing Americans in the streets.

Bush is executing American soldiers in Iraq! (Yes, I know that is conspiracy theory, but I am speaking figuratively.) So what is to stop him at home?

And to bring up the Patriot Act, did you know some kid in a mall was arrested for wearing a shirt that said, "Give Peace a Chance"! Under the new definition of terrorism, they were able to label him a terrorist, obviously, and arrest him.
Natural Choice
31-10-2004, 08:31
Arabic is impossible to learn. I have tried.
My wife learned to speak it at a native level in 14 months,and in another 6 weeks, learned Iraqi dialect. Its not hard.
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:33
My wife learned to speak it at a native level in 14 months,and in another 6 weeks, learned Iraqi dialect. Its not hard.
Fine, your wife's smarter than me. I still tried and failed to learn it when my friend was taking a class and I would do her homework with her.
Ice Hockey Players
31-10-2004, 08:34
I think both of you are hilarious for trying to predict it. None of the polls are accurate. Everyone's split. There will probably be loads of election fraud. And you think you can predict it either way?

I hope you're not implying that Arabir is more important to learn than French for living in France. I know some French people who would be seriously pissed off at you if that's the case ;)

Arabic is impossible to learn. I have tried.

I am predicting a win for Bush for several reasons, including the fact that Kerry could be ripping Bush apart but is not. If Kerry were more of an opportunist he would destroy Bush.

And Arabic would be easier to learn if all the symbols didn't run together. Arabic phrases look like one huge, long character with a bunch of dots. Hebrew's at least a little more organized. (Note: I am not some willy whiner who thinks all languages that don't use the Roman alphabet are impossible to learn. I read and write Japanese with some fluency.)
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:37
(Note: I am not some willy whiner who thinks all languages that don't use the Roman alphabet are impossible to learn. I read and write Japanese with some fluency.)I am to some extent, but I do think Russian and Bulgarian are loads easier to learn than Arabic. And French, Spanish, Italian, German, etc loads easier than them.
Pessimus
31-10-2004, 08:37
wow the patriotism *cough* is just so intense......I shall go about my everyday business no matter who is elected. This is not a tourturous regime...so why again would we move out of country if a certain official was elected into office?
Ninjaustralia
31-10-2004, 08:38
If Kerry wins it's going to be no different.

Palestinians get oppressed

Iraq and the phony "War on Terror" continue

Nothing is going to be better with Herman Munster so I can't understand how you care either way.
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:38
This is not a tourturous regime...That's debatable.
Pessimus
31-10-2004, 08:40
That's debatable.

I hope that was a joke...
Catholic Germany
31-10-2004, 08:41
I hope that was a joke...

I hope the Bush admin is a joke. I keep on expecting Bill and Gore to jump out of the Bush and Cheney suit and say "Just kidding!"
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:41
I hope that was a joke...Not really, I admit he's not overtly genocidal, but some of his backwards, fundamentalist, self-centered, ethnocentrist, christian policies really scare me, and the thought of 4 years of them without him having to worry about re-election honestly scares me.
Ogiek
31-10-2004, 08:42
Ummm...not sure what parallel universe you're from, but in this universe, Bush is going to win hands down.

Let's talk Wednesday. I have no worries.
Pessimus
31-10-2004, 08:44
Not really, I admit he's not overtly genocidal, but some of his backwards, fundamentalist, and christian policies really scare me, and the thought of 4 years of them without worrying about re-election honestly scares me.

ok.....but these are just policies...I find it a bit extreme to move out of the country just because your canditate lost. To compare the Bush Admin to a regime...is also..a bit on the extreme side...however u disagree with the polices....we have alot more freedom then most
Andaluciae
31-10-2004, 08:45
No need to make plans - Kerry is a lock. It won't even be electorally close.
ummm...if you haven't seen any polls lately it's a dead heat bro.
Pessimus
31-10-2004, 08:47
I dont think we really are going to know what will happen..till it does...the polls are so inaccurate now...they are all slanted...and the ones that arn't..still contridicte each other...
Chodolo
31-10-2004, 08:47
I would laugh at the prospect of Hillary Clinton 2008, who Republicans hate more than they could ever hate Kerry.
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:48
ok.....but these are just policies...I find it a bit extreme to move out of the country just because your canditate lost. To compare the Bush Admin to a regime...is also..a bit on the extreme side...however u disagree with the polices....we have alot more freedom then most
I'm moving out of the country because, yeah, I want a bit of freedom from the spector of this pres (although I suspect it's not much better in europe), but also because I want to learn more about other cultures and people. I'm looking forward to going to France as much as I'm looking forward to leaving the US.

I don't know if we have more freedom than "most". We certainly have more freedom than the people in Darfur. Than those who lived under Saddam. Than those in Russia where they're getting rid of democracy. But they don't really comprise "most" of the world.
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 08:48
I would laugh at the prospect of Hillary Clinton 2008, who Republicans hate more than they could ever hate Kerry.
Even more reason to support her.
Ice Hockey Players
31-10-2004, 08:50
That's debatable.

I wouldn't call it "torturous"...a bit power-hungry for my taste, yes. Underhanded, sure. Comprised of perhaps some of the least palatable personalities ever, possibly (Ashcroft comes to mind...so do Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Dick "Go fuck yourself" Cheney, and Karl Rove, aka the Puppetmaster.) But "torturous" is a bit extreme, at least when it comes to American citizens. Iraqis...well, that's definitely debatable.
Chodolo
31-10-2004, 08:55
All these people talking about leaving...

I say stay in the country and work to better it from within. If all the liberals were to leave then America would be truly fucked.
New Exodus
31-10-2004, 09:04
Originally Posted by Chodolo
I say stay in the country and work to better it from within. If all the liberals were to leave then America would be truly f*****.

Dangit Chodolo! Now you've given away our secret plan. ;)

Seriously, I think its funny that people would leave the country just because they have to spend four years under the candidate they opposed. Its only four years! You people take it far too personally. The "Big Issues" aren't really going to change just because of the president. Too many people are on each side for it to be that simple.
Natural Choice
31-10-2004, 09:05
All these people talking about leaving...

I say stay in the country and work to better it from within. If all the liberals were to leave then America would be truly fucked.
Yeah we would! No more left-wing garbage, no more extremist views for society. MAn, wht a day? :(
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 09:11
I wouldn't call it "torturous"...a bit power-hungry for my taste, yes. Underhanded, sure. Comprised of perhaps some of the least palatable personalities ever, possibly (Ashcroft comes to mind...so do Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Dick "Go fuck yourself" Cheney, and Karl Rove, aka the Puppetmaster.) But "torturous" is a bit extreme, at least when it comes to American citizens. Iraqis...well, that's definitely debatable.See? It is debatable. I never said I advocated that viewpoint. Just that there was an argument to be made for said viewpoint.
Carlemnaria
31-10-2004, 09:14
duck and cover

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Chodolo
31-10-2004, 09:30
Yeah we would! No more left-wing garbage, no more extremist views for society. MAn, wht a day? :(
"Extremist" is all in the eye of the beholder.
Ogiek
31-10-2004, 10:22
Europeans and Canadians must laugh to see Americans writing about "extremists" within our two centrist political parties. Think about it. Both presidential candidates, no matter what election year, have to garner the votes of 51% of the people. That means they and their messages have to appeal to basically the same people. How "extreme" can they be?

Our Democrats and Republicans have nothing to compare to European left-wing and right-wing political parties.
Ogiek
31-10-2004, 10:29
ummm...if you haven't seen any polls lately it's a dead heat bro.

Yes, but come election day it won't be. In almost every election the incumbent has received no more than 1% over what he was polling the week before. And in almost every key swing state Bush is still polling less than 50%, in many states significantly so. If history remains true Kerry will pick up the larger share of the undecided voters.

Also, polls show the preference of "likely" voters. Usually that works fine. However, this election is going to see a huge block of unlikely first time or infrequent voters, most of whom are Democrats or anti-Bush Independents. Polls did not predict the Newt Gingrich Republican House takeover in 1994 for this very reason.

The popular vote will remain fairly close, but it will be an electoral landslide for Kerry (300+ electorals).
Chodolo
31-10-2004, 10:31
Europeans and Canadians must laugh to see Americans writing about "extremists" within our two centrist political parties. Think about it. Both presidential candidates, no matter what election year, have to garner the votes of 51% of the people. That means they and their messages have to basically appeal to the same people. How "extreme" can they be?

Our Democrats and Republicans have nothing to compare to European left-wing and right-wing political parties.
Clinton won with like 43% of the vote. Besides, half the population doesnt even vote, so that's more like 22%.

Election is determined more by get out the vote efforts. There is a narrow section of America that apparently can't make up their minds. And there is a far greater section of America that doesn't bother to vote. The numbers change the most in the second group.

But yes, America's third parties are gonna get creamed this year. It's gonna be a Repub/Dem blowout. I see no more than 2% going to third parties.
Harbour Terrace
31-10-2004, 13:04
Europeans and Canadians must laugh to see Americans writing about "extremists" within our two centrist political parties. Think about it. Both presidential candidates, no matter what election year, have to garner the votes of 51% of the people. That means they and their messages have to appeal to basically the same people. How "extreme" can they be?

Our Democrats and Republicans have nothing to compare to European left-wing and right-wing political parties.

As someone from New Zealand, I laugh about how you Americans can call your political parties 'centrist', when compared to most other countries in the world they are very right wing, both democrats and republicans. I know the governmental style in New Zealand is generally left-leaning, but the policies of the republicans would be considered right wing fundamentalist and the democrats much more right wing than any of the major right wing parties here. New Zealand also does not suffer from a two party system like America, whichever of the two major parties comes out with the highest votes still has to arrange coalitions with other smaller parties in order to have a majority in parliament, which generally means that the needs of the society at large are better looked after, than if one single egomaniacal party was in power.