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We live in a dark time. A time of strife, fear, and terror. A time in which cities fall at the behest of a single man and a single man can inflict terror upon nations.
Where is our savior?
Where is the second coming, where is a messiah, a hero, a leader, anything?

Where is our Locke? (famous writer)

Where do we look for an end to the violence, where is a healer to mend the wounds of a world? A nation? Where is a Messiah?

If ever the time was right for such a person, if ever the time was ripe for a hero, if ever there was a time for a Messiah, that time is now. Who can we look to? Where is our Locke? Our savior? Our leader?

we have michael moore what more do you want?

umm... who are you talking to?

Isn't it obvious? Michael Moore = Locke!

If you think you can solve all the world's problems, go ahead and become this world's saviour yourself. Meanwhile, I'll be taking on a more manageable chunk. :rolleyes:

Isn't it obvious? Michael Moore = Locke!

Moore is an expert propagandist. What he is *not* is a deep political and philisophical thinker. He's no John Locke, sorry.

I hate Michael Moore

It is not a documentary if u sell it, you f**king dumbs**t


(michael moore)______________________(me)
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Why wouldn't you be allowed to sell documentaries? What sort of logic is that?

im sorry Calpurnio i shouldnt have posted a joke that i knew would hijack your thread.

how bout noam chompsky?

karl rove?

i think we have lots of people working on it but they dont get the publicity that is needed to break into the publics consciousness

besides it being sold commercially many creditable sources have condemed it as just Michael Moore's opinion

many parts of his movie are just plain not true and are just propoganda :headbang:

Look how this conversation completely changed it was originally about where the secound coming is and/or apocoplse

Why wouldn't you be allowed to sell documentaries? What sort of logic is that?

You can't sell it as a documentary unless it has been proved truthful by a real secound opinion not a propoganda guy

What kind of savior are you looking for? Indeed, these are dark times for the world, but there are still nations and organizations that stand against oppression. Even if they are nearly powerless to stop it, they stand against it. The enemy of the world a this time is not some invincible Anti-Christ, but a man. He can be defeated by human means. At this particular moment in history, we do not need to Second Coming to defeat this evil. When Christ comes again, it be to defeat a foe against whom the might of nations and men is useless. This is not that time. Now is the time for mankind to rise up against this darkness.

You can't sell it as a documentary unless it has been proved truthful by a real secound opinion not a propoganda guySo who decides if the opinion is "real" or not?

I agree completly all we need is


(Osama)_______________(Me)
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So who decides if the opinion is "real" or not?


no one decides if it is you can juge real or not real, being able to judge fairly comes from a dependable record of fair opionions that are agreed with by many

So you are saying that judging wether it is "real" or not is up to the individual, and therefore what one person says is "real" might not be agreed on by everyone, is that it?

*Burps*
mmmmmmmm Sacricious

Oops, sorry. Is that what that was?
*Burps*

So you are saying that judging wether it is "real" or not is up to the individual, and therefore what one person says is "real" might not be agreed on by everyone, is that it?

you just don't get it do you?
it is NOT up to the individual, that is what Michael Moore did
It is up to the general public to decide if the person is fair and wise

What kind of savior are you looking for? Indeed, these are dark times for the world, but there are still nations and organizations that stand against oppression. Even if they are nearly powerless to stop it, they stand against it. The enemy of the world a this time is not some invincible Anti-Christ, but a man. He can be defeated by human means. At this particular moment in history, we do not need to Second Coming to defeat this evil. When Christ comes again, it be to defeat a foe against whom the might of nations and men is useless. This is not that time. Now is the time for mankind to rise up against this darkness.

Who's to say that there is no "Anti-Christ"? That no one person stands against the good of humanity corrupting it to it's unbending will and forcing all sorts into submission? I have to say that perhaps not one person, but a group of people perform this function. The Rockefellers. Behind every Media conglomerate, behind every large social function, behind the leaders of every world organization. These people are in charge. They control all with complacency. If you believe that you can make a difference this tuesday, November 2. You're wrong. By believing that you can change the way this government works, you're wrong. You allow them to force you down and keep you beneath the super-rich, the super-powerful. Only those who can see past the crap, the propaganda, will survive the holocaust. "Rock the Vote" and "Vote or Die", the celebrities who spawn this and many other similarly themed campaigns are in the pockets of those in power. Those in power can sense the world's attitude toward themselves shifting towards anger. By making you believe you can change the way it works, they keep you under their thumb.

The good of all is good for all
There is no 'good for all'.

Sigh.
A savior? Locke? I believe some people overestimate the effect a single individual can have in changing this great nation of ours. We need more than a single man to stand up and point out the inconsistencies of our government with respect to the purpose for which it was founded. Almost everyone is aware of this problem. However, how do we fix it? A violent war, one that will cause our nation to collapse into smoldering ruin before we ever find a victor? A transition into a Socialist state, where the possibility for authoritarianism is even greater? How do you propose that we begin to fix this problem? Is there an easy answer? I can assure you there is not. However, the solution is not a radical shift to either side of the political spectrum. Neither is it a violent overthrow of the current government, which can only result in mutually assured destruction. In fact, since most people in this country are aware of the problems, it should seem obvious that the real issue is that of the laziness and complacency of the public. We Americans are comfortable, safe, and live easy lives in the lap of luxury. Therefore, it should come as no surprise to you that no one wants anything to change. I am a Republican, but only because I see a greater potential for calamity in left-wing policies, although admittedly even the Democrats are not truly very left-wing. So, I suppose the real dilemma is this: can we overcome decades of indolence and corruption? Or shall we follow the path of the Roman Empire, so that all that is left might be a few fragments of a once-mighty civilization?

Sigh.
A savior? Locke? I believe some people overestimate the effect a single individual can have in changing this great nation of ours.
Butbutbut... that... it would be so hard if we had to save the world ourselves. you can't seriously expect us to do that.
I say we need a saviour. and he's going to come and save us. sooner or later. cause we deserve that. yes. yesyes.
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Who's to say that there is no "Anti-Christ"? That no one person stands against the good of humanity corrupting it to it's unbending will and forcing all sorts into submission?

Who's to say the 'Anti-Christ' must be against the good of humanity?
Maybe the 'Anti-Christ' has good intentions, maybe the 'Anti-Christ' just denies the existence of God, maybe the 'Anti-Christ' would have the good of humanity at heart, and it is only Christians who believe otherwise because the 'Anti-Christ' will turn the world away from God....





The world is as it has always been, there are dark times and bright times, there is fear and terror, but there is also contentment and joy. The only difference are the tools and increased exposure. What saviour could there possibly be, ever? To rescue the world from the bad would be to eliminate the good, for without one there cannot be the other. The only real saviour for humanity, would be our full and final destruction...

There is no 'good for all'.

I heartily disagree :mad:
If it is good for the majority it will be MADE to be good for ALL
understand?

Who's to say the 'Anti-Christ' must be against the good of humanity?
Maybe the 'Anti-Christ' has good intentions, maybe the 'Anti-Christ' just denies the existence of God, maybe the 'Anti-Christ' would have the good of humanity at heart, and it is only Christians who believe otherwise because the 'Anti-Christ' will turn the world away from God....





The world is as it has always been, there are dark times and bright times, there is fear and terror, but there is also contentment and joy. The only difference are the tools and increased exposure. What saviour could there possibly be, ever? To rescue the world from the bad would be to eliminate the good, for without one there cannot be the other. The only real saviour for humanity, would be our full and final destruction...

You have issues...
the anti-christ turns people away from god therefore he is evil because god gives life there is only death any other way