NationStates Jolt Archive

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

Here's another site with some overlaps, and some others. Just for variety.

http://cryptome.org/who-did-mil.htm

It's honestly not that surprising. It's hard to imagine anyone who has actually been through a war being a war hawk nowadays.

Yeah, damn those Republicans for teaching or going to school or being partially blind. It was all just to get out of the military.

Hmm... how about a list of who actually did serve rather than a cherry picked list of mainy Dems who did and Reps who didn't.

http://www.fra.org/leg-center-2/108th-congress/military-members.html

Have fun looking at how there's more Republicans who served than Democrats.

The point is that the PNAC republicans in charge of this war never fought in one themselves. No one is suggesting that republicans have never served. Hell, something like 80% of the milatary votes for them.

Hmm... how about a list of who actually did serve rather than a cherry picked list of mainy Dems who did and Reps who didn't.

http://www.fra.org/leg-center-2/108th-congress/military-members.html

Have fun looking at how there's more Republicans who served than Democrats.

72/121 of House members who served and 18/35 of Senators (1 is Indie) are Republicans. The latter is shows a statistically insignificent compared to Democrats. Just how much of a majority do the Reps have? Anyway my list was of leaders... the second one provided is better, but I bet if you looked at rank and file citizens with a Coke-or-Pepsi party affiliation, more Reps will have served, simply by the offset of Dem hippies, if nothing else. I just think it's significent how many of the Reps' national leaders managed to avoid serviing.

72/121 of House members who served and 18/35 of Senators (1 is Indie) are Republicans. The latter is shows a statistically insignificent compared to Democrats. Just how much of a majority do the Reps have? Anyway my list was of leaders... the second one provided is better, but I bet if you looked at rank and file citizens with a Coke-or-Pepsi party affiliation, more Reps will have served, simply by the offset of Dem hippies, if nothing else. I just think it's significent how many of the Reps' national leaders managed to avoid serviing.
I think the number of Democrats from the House is 47, but that number could be off as I just did it and might have skipped over or added someone I shouldn't have (like the American Samoa guy).

The source did not say why all of them did not serve. Maybe they were not of age or too old to be drafted. Maybe they were in school or had some physical reason to not be drafted. You have to understand that not every male in this nation served in the military. It would be scary if it was that way. Some people were never drafted.

The source did not say why all of them did not serve. Maybe they were not of age or too old to be drafted. Maybe they were in school or had some physical reason to not be drafted. You have to understand that not every male in this nation served in the military. It would be scary if it was that way. Some people were never drafted.
Right, but its funny how being too young or partially blind would qualify them as a "draft-dodger" to a liberal. Whereas I actually did notice that Kerry was serving in the Navy Reserves. Bush and he were in the same boat, no pun intended.

Right, but its funny how being too young or partially blind would qualify them as a "draft-dodger" to a liberal. Whereas I actually did notice that Kerry was serving in the Navy Reserves. Bush and he were in the same boat, no pun intended.
Only if by "in the same boat" you mean that Kerry volunteered for Vietnam while Bush checked the box on his form that stated clearly that he did not want to go to Vietnam. That's a hell of a big boat, if that's what you mean.

Only if by "in the same boat" you mean that Kerry volunteered for Vietnam while Bush checked the box on his form that stated clearly that he did not want to go to Vietnam. That's a hell of a big boat, if that's what you mean.Let me break it down. In the military there are two components. First and foremost is the Active Component. Then there's this place for all others, and it's called the Reserve Component. Affiliation is one in the same in the latter group. Guard, Reserve, Boy Scout, whatever, are all in that boat. Mr Kerry as pointed out was a Naval Reserve Officer, and The President was National Guard Officer. Both were in the same paddle boat. One went to war for 4 months on a 12 month tour. The other was never called to duty.

Let me break it down. In the military there are two components. First and foremost is the Active Component. Then there's this place for all others, and it's called the Reserve Component. Affiliation is one in the same in the latter group. Guard, Reserve, Boy Scout, whatever, are all in that boat. Mr Kerry as pointed out was a Naval Reserve Officer, and The President was National Guard Officer. Both were in the same paddle boat. One went to war for 4 months on a 12 month tour. The other was never called to duty.
Now let me break it down for you--on the forms that Kerry and Bush filled out when they joined the Reserves, there was a little box that you checked if you wished to volunteer for Vietnam, and there was a box you checked if you did not want to volunteer. Bush and Kerry checked different boxes, and that's the biggest difference between their military service.