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Ask a German WWII re-enactor.

Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:01
Ask me any questions you might have about the re-enacting hobby, or whatever comes to mind.
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:12
Ask me any questions you might have about the re-enacting hobby, or whatever comes to mind.

Before this denegrates down to a "you stupid Nazi" flamefest, what unit do you belong to?

I'm part of the LSSAH out of Illinois.
Das Neue Konigreich
30-10-2004, 03:13
Do you use replica weapons or real WWII era weapons using blanks

If you use real weapons where can i get an STG 44?
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:18
Before this denegrates down to a "you stupid Nazi" flamefest, what unit do you belong to?

I'm part of the LSSAH out of Illinois.

LSSAH?

So, you're a WWII reenactor too? I thought I was the only one that played this game.

I'm in the 3. Panzer Grenadiers.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:20
Do you use replica weapons or real WWII era weapons using blanks

If you use real weapons where can i get an STG 44?


Both.

I'm still buying all my gear, but eventually I'll have a K-98 that the russians captured.

They are very rare, my Oberluetnant has one, they cost over $3,000 I think.
Das Neue Konigreich
30-10-2004, 03:21
I'll steal it if i have to! >_0

BTW K-98 is a great gun and alot of people are still using them for hunting, and they are not expensive at all
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:22
Do you use replica weapons or real WWII era weapons using blanks

If you use real weapons where can i get an STG 44?

Both repops and original.

Not sure where to get an original '44. If you were to find one, it would be in the thousands. Repops are over $1500 in most cases.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:23
I'll steal it if i have to! >_0

BTW K-98 is a great gun and alot of people are still using them for hunting, and they are not expensive at all


Federal Crime

Yeah, I want to get one within the next few weeks so I can go hunting with it. One is only about $250 or $300.
Das Neue Konigreich
30-10-2004, 03:24
Well, when they come to take me away, they will have to deal with someone with an assault rifle on their hands, and they wont be taking me alive! :mp5:
The Black Forrest
30-10-2004, 03:25
OK?

Unless you are German, why would you want to play german soldiers?
Das Neue Konigreich
30-10-2004, 03:27
Erg, here comes the dirty nazi comments

You might want to play as a German soldier because their equiptment was better maybe?

example: in normandy it took approx. 5.8 sherman tanks to take out one tiger
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:27
LSSAH?

So, you're a WWII reenactor too? I thought I was the only one that played this game.

I'm in the 3. Panzer Grenadiers.

I've been in the hobby for about 5 yrs. I only get to play about twice a year though.

I'm a PanzerOberGrendadier FeldFunker. Here's our website. I've got some cool photos in that section.

http://www.lssah.com/
Das Neue Konigreich
30-10-2004, 03:28
Any of you play WWIIOL?
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:29
Unless you are German, why would you want to play german soldiers?


The historical aspect of it. I'm 50% Scottish, 25% Latvian, and 25% Polish. My reenacting group is one of the most professional there are. In some of them, they wont even sleep in 1940's repro tents. My group is the best. Our tactics are copied right out of the books that the Wermacht used during WWII.
Bodies Without Organs
30-10-2004, 03:30
Unless you are German, why would you want to play german soldiers?

Why do children around the world play 'Cowboys and Indians'?*





* Well, they did when I was a youth.
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:30
OK?

Unless you are German, why would you want to play german soldiers?

I like the underdogs. I also think they had cooler uniforms. I've also played Japanese (w/ lots of mud on my face) and Russian.
Das Neue Konigreich
30-10-2004, 03:31
I'd like to find one of these groups in my area, can you help me? I live in Connecticut
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:31
Erg, here comes the dirty nazi comments

You might want to play as a German soldier because their equiptment was better maybe?

example: in normandy it took approx. 5.8 sherman tanks to take out one tiger


Thats also one of the reasons.

The Tiger tank also had incredible armor protection against a Sherman. The strategy of using Shermans was using them in numbers.
The Black Forrest
30-10-2004, 03:31
Erg, here comes the dirty nazi comments

You might want to play as a German soldier because their equiptment was better maybe?

example: in normandy it took approx. 5.8 sherman tanks to take out one tiger

Did you hear me say dirty Nazi?

My family fought them. For differernt countries in fact.

Just seems to be a misplaced admiration to me.

Carry on I guess....
Das Neue Konigreich
30-10-2004, 03:32
Sorry if i misinterperted your question
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:32
I've been in the hobby for about 5 yrs. I only get to play about twice a year though.

I'm a PanzerOberGrendadier FeldFunker. Here's our website. I've got some cool photos in that section.

http://www.lssah.com/

http://www.3pgd.org/

I'm a Grenadier, I joined last summer. I've been to training, and 2 events. They are always very fun. The website hasnt been updated in a while because we use our Yahoo Group.
Bodies Without Organs
30-10-2004, 03:32
I like the underdogs. I also think they had cooler uniforms. I've also played Japanese (w/ lots of mud on my face) and Russian.

Are you describing the Germans as the underdogs here? I know they lost, but they aren't exactly the first WWII army that would spring to my mind when the term is uttered.
The Black Forrest
30-10-2004, 03:32
I like the underdogs. I also think they had cooler uniforms. I've also played Japanese (w/ lots of mud on my face) and Russian.

Ok. I can accept that.....
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:33
Any of you play WWIIOL?

No, I dont have the time. I used to play BF1942 with the FH mod.
Das Neue Konigreich
30-10-2004, 03:33
Are you describing the Germans as the underdogs here? I know they lost, but they aren't exactly the first WWII army that would spring to my mind when the term is uttered.
Yeah, i have to agree with that, the germans trounced everybody up to stalingrad...
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:34
I'd like to find one of these groups in my area, can you help me? I live in Connecticut

Check the website. It has links to webrings for units around the country. The LSSAH is effectively East of the Mississippi w/ several people overseas.

It all depends on what what you're interested in. Armour, infantry, paratroopers etc.
Emporer Pudu
30-10-2004, 03:34
I liked the germans, i am 50% German...but i liked the soviets better.
The Black Forrest
30-10-2004, 03:35
Are you describing the Germans as the underdogs here? I know they lost, but they aren't exactly the first WWII army that would spring to my mind when the term is uttered.

I would agree with that. I once dated a German girl whose granddad was on the Eastern Front. Tough old guy. Decent shape for his age.

He was wounded and missed the love fest at Stalingrad. Everybody he knew died.....
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:37
I'd like to find one of these groups in my area, can you help me? I live in Connecticut

http://ww2reenactors.proboards35.com/index.cgi?

http://www.hardscrabblefarm.com/ww2/pickaunit.htm

http://www.reenactor.net/main_htmls/ww2.html

Those should help.
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:38
Yeah, i have to agree with that, the germans trounced everybody up to stalingrad...

Most WWII reenacting is late war German v U.S.. We always lose. German v. Russians is always a mass of infantry w/ h-h fighting. Most fun. But we still lose.

As for the underdogs , think of it as hindsight. They always will lose so it has a quality about it that presents it somewhat fatalistically.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:39
I would agree with that. I once dated a German girl whose granddad was on the Eastern Front. Tough old guy. Decent shape for his age.

He was wounded and missed the love fest at Stalingrad. Everybody he knew died.....

One guy in my group found a picture of his grandfather on eBay. His grandfather died in the defense of eastern prussia at the end of the war.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:41
Most WWII reenacting is late war German v U.S.. We always lose. German v. Russians is always a mass of infantry w/ h-h fighting. Most fun. But we still lose.

As for the underdogs , think of it as hindsight. They always will lose so it has a quality about it that presents it somewhat fatalistically.


Most of the allies in this area of the country dont act like soldiers. Thats just my personal opinion. We always rout them, every time.

Did your unit go to Odessa NY this year?
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:43
One guy in my group found a picture of his grandfather on eBay. His grandfather died in the defense of eastern prussia at the end of the war.

Most of the members of my unit have/had relatives on various sides of the war. I have some (now passed) that were in the Wermacht, a Kriegsmarine sub captain, and Hitler Youth. Also U.S. Civil Defense.
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:44
Most of the allies in this area of the country dont act like soldiers. Thats just my personal opinion. We always rout them, every time.

Did your unit go to Odessa NY this year?

I share your opinion. The worst are the Airborne guys. They think they should win scenarios that they're supposed to lose.

There might have been a few. I'm not sure. Our big events are Attebury , In and Fort Knox, Ky.
Bodies Without Organs
30-10-2004, 03:47
Interesting, especially the remarks about authentic/repro equipment, however, is authenticity being sacrificed for the sake of display? - in most cases a WWII infantry engagement would consist mainly of people crouched down or lying behind whatever cover they can find for long periods of time, which hardly seems to be the thing being described here.
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 03:53
Interesting, especially the remarks about authentic/repro equipment, however, is authenticity being sacrificed for the sake of display? - in most cases a WWII infantry engagement would consist mainly of people crouched down or lying behind whatever cover they can find for long periods of time, which hardly seems to be the thing being described here.

You do have to take it w/ a grain of salt. When it all boils down to it, it's boys w/ guns advanced.

The accuracy of the equipment depends of the individual and the unit. Most strive for high authenticity but give leeway for newer members. More 'veteran' members will loan out stuff until a new guy gets equipped, at least in the LAH.
DeaconDave
30-10-2004, 03:57
Yeah, i have to agree with that, the germans trounced everybody up to stalingrad...

El alamein is usually considered the "hinge of fate" by the Western Allies, my German friend.
Bodies Without Organs
30-10-2004, 03:58
You do have to take it w/ a grain of salt. When it all boils down to it, it's boys w/ guns advanced.

Yeah, re-enacting pre-WWI battles have an inbuilt spectacle, and there isn't the necessary sacrifice of authenticity (well, not to such an extent) as in WWII where if you can be seen, you can be killed, and so the whole point is not to be seen.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 04:26
bump for more questions
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 04:49
bump for more questions

Do you use camoflauge or straight field gray?
Evinsia
30-10-2004, 06:00
I've considered being a reenactor of Russian WWII stuff, but I've ran into some minor problems.
1. I have found few uniforms that are the right size for me;
2. I have a big head, which impairs my ability to find large enough headgear;
3. I may be too young to do it- 14 years old. But I have the proportions to be a believable reenactor;
4. There are no WWII reenacting units in Eastern Wyoming. And as I have a limited traveling capacity, this poses a problem.
Nationalist Hungary
30-10-2004, 06:52
Are you describing the Germans as the underdogs here? I know they lost, but they aren't exactly the first WWII army that would spring to my mind when the term is uttered.

Germany beat the living crap out of central and western europe(poland as well) and in the end they basically took on the whole world along with japan so they definately were the underdogs in ww2

P.S: German military uniforms(especially helmets) were of the best design when compared to the rest of the other nations of the world.
Kecibukia
30-10-2004, 15:35
Germany beat the living crap out of central and western europe(poland as well) and in the end they basically took on the whole world along with japan so they definately were the underdogs in ww2

P.S: German military uniforms(especially helmets) were of the best design when compared to the rest of the other nations of the world.

The helmets no question. The uniforms were average design until late war when the design was superior (camoflauge) but the quality was deteriorating.

Their field equipment (canteens etc.) OTOH SUCKED. Most of it was just updated from the Franco-Prussian war. It's heavy, bulky, noisy, and inconvienent. The U.S. has the go on effective field equipment.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 16:00
Do you use camoflauge or straight field gray?


The Waffen SS used the camoflauge on their uniforms, however, a Zeltbahn, could be placed over the Heer's Field Gray uniforms.
More info can be found here if you are interested.

http://www.zeltbahn.net/
Kahta
30-10-2004, 16:01
Their field equipment (canteens etc.) OTOH SUCKED. Most of it was just updated from the Franco-Prussian war. It's heavy, bulky, noisy, and inconvienent. The U.S. has the go on effective field equipment.


Yeah, I second that, the field equipment, is very loud, it takes a lot of fine tuning to get everything right so that your shovel doesnt hit anything. Same with a canteen.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 16:03
I've considered being a reenactor of Russian WWII stuff, but I've ran into some minor problems.
1. I have found few uniforms that are the right size for me;
2. I have a big head, which impairs my ability to find large enough headgear;
3. I may be too young to do it- 14 years old. But I have the proportions to be a believable reenactor;
4. There are no WWII reenacting units in Eastern Wyoming. And as I have a limited traveling capacity, this poses a problem.

There are guys in my group that are 14 and 15, but their dads are in the group too. I'm 16, which is the youngest age allowed in my group.

You could always go to a local hobby store and see what they know about the hobby of reenacting. Maybe there are local groups, but they don't have a website. Besides, you can always go to college where there is reenacting.
The Lightning Star
30-10-2004, 16:16
Ok, im from Massachusetts and, while i dont live there permamnetly(im deployed in the Foreign Service. Y'know, diplomats?), i would like to know if there are any "battles" in the area, preferably in the Worcester area.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 16:25
Ok, im from Massachusetts and, while i dont live there permamnetly(im deployed in the Foreign Service. Y'know, diplomats?), i would like to know if there are any "battles" in the area, preferably in the Worcester area.

I live about 35 minutes north of Worcester. Out on Rt 2 in Gardner.

Our next event close by will be in New Hampshire, just south of Concord. However, I know that we also have a reenactment or two in West Boylston every year, which is fairly close to Worcester. I have no idea about what events we are having past December 4th, the Calander hasnt been posted for next year.
The Horned Rat
01-11-2004, 00:59
How is the re-enacting done?

Is it all rehearsed?(IOW, you know if you get "shot" or not before you start) Or do you use some form of markers(ie-paintball)?

Sorry that I'm showing that such ignorance exists, but I really want to know.
Right-Wing America
01-11-2004, 01:51
too bad theres nothing like this in New York(or at least nothing that i know of) so i guess my question is if I live in NYC wheres the closest area I can get to that does ww2 reenacting?
Kahta
01-11-2004, 02:54
too bad theres nothing like this in New York(or at least nothing that i know of) so i guess my question is if I live in NYC wheres the closest area I can get to that does ww2 reenacting?


There are NY reenacting groups. Just follow the links I posted earlier
Kahta
01-11-2004, 02:58
How is the re-enacting done?

Is it all rehearsed?(IOW, you know if you get "shot" or not before you start) Or do you use some form of markers(ie-paintball)?

Sorry that I'm showing that such ignorance exists, but I really want to know.


We use blanks in our guns, and we have to take our hits. Allied soldiers, particularly 101st or 82nd Airbornes refuse to take their hits. An example would be in our big event at Odessa NY, my squad and one other took a location around a barn, then about 4 squads of americans came attacking up the hill, the whole time, we were shooting at them, and they refused to take their hits. Of course, the airbornes were all in their 30's and 40's, while most of my group are guys in their 20's and a few reaching into their low 40's.