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Do we truly think it is the woman that has this problem? I personally think it has more to do with the man not giving what the woman wants, are there any other believers in this out there? I think the whole deal with men having to use viagra for there little problems seems to be a 'reap what you sow' thing. We have been ignoring a womans wants for so long it is only fair that we feel a bit of that pain(this is truly justifiable vindictivness if there was one). Men complain all the time about not being able to get there woman aroused, but for some reason we never notice that it is us that is causing this problem.

I am going to get a little personal just this one time (well maybe not) but I used to think that giving my wife an orgasm once a month was pretty good until I found out how easy it is to give her one every time (if not everyday, near to it) just by giving her what she wanted. Being myself and being real. Really, all you have to do is give her all of your heart and you will find that she will give you hers in return.

The idea that we all have to put everything off onto a medicine to fix our problems that we create is truly funny.

I was sceptical at first, but actually, that title is pretty much exactly on the money. To put it another way: what in the name of Bush's degrading septum are you talking about??

just as most men dont need viagra most women dont need arousal gels

but some women DO, so whats the big deal?

Sex for women is very psychological, but for us is very mechanic, just shock that thing and it'll come, but for women is not as simple.

I do believe that all women if done properly will achive an orgasm. You just have to know how to work it. Once the psychological problems are solved, then making a woman reach an orgasm or even multiple-orgasms becomes very mechanic.

I have to go now it's friday night, and I have to expand my technique, hehehe... but I'll explain further, later.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever even heard of female arousal gel before. Its certainly not as commonly referanced as viagra.

im not sure exactly what he is referring to
there are gels that are a kind of sex toy. they make you tingle or they heat up or whatever. just good clean fun

some have actual government controlled drugs in them. estrogen or testosterone or a circulation booster like viagra. these are used for specific problems.

and considering that women dont have orgasm 100% of the time from masturbation, i wouldnt get too upset if you failed to "give" her an orgasm now and then.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137118,00.html

Sorry I was reading about this thing today and thought about it and realized that there is no need for this stuff if we truly know what one another wants. I am not saying I am against it for people that want to use it, I care less what people do when consent is given by adults.
The sensation a woman feels is very much the same thing a man does but because women understand the phsycological aspect of it a bit better it takes a real understanding to what a woman wants. To give this to a woman is really not that hard at all (no pun intended either) it is very easy to do and any man and woman can achieve perfect love making when it is understood. I must add that I was not aware of this prior to knowing God. So I believe the key to achieving perfection at anything in life is knowing God.

Here's the thing: Just because some women don't need arousal gels, doesn't mean they don't want arousal gels. It isn't like Viagra that has slight risks(but apparently not serious enough to keep them from considering going OTC with it). Therefore, I see arousal gels like any other sex toy.

Sorry sometimes it is the woman.

I dated a girl who had problems getting interested in sex. I wondered if it was me but she later confessed to being raped and that incident was always on her mind.

She wouldn't let go of it and she wouldn't go talk to somebody about it so it was her problem.

Other then that I weigh in on the Gels being a sex toy nothing more.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137118,00.html

Sorry I was reading about this thing today and thought about it and realized that there is no need for this stuff if we truly know what one another wants. I am not saying I am against it for people that want to use it, I care less what people do when consent is given by adults.
The sensation a woman feels is very much the same thing a man does but because women understand the phsycological aspect of it a bit better it takes a real understanding to what a woman wants. To give this to a woman is really not that hard at all (no pun intended either) it is very easy to do and any man and woman can achieve perfect love making when it is understood. I must add that I was not aware of this prior to knowing God. So I believe the key to achieving perfection at anything in life is knowing God.

thats like saying men dont need viagra because MY man can always get an erection. some men NEED it.

if a woman has a physical arousal problem that can be alieviated by a topical ointment, THEN she can enjoy the kind of sex you are describing when she uses it. if she has a blood flow problem, then all the tenderness in the world isnt going to be enough.

gel cant make up for a bad lover. it cant make up for the trauma of rape. but it CAN get things flowing so with other things going right she will be able to enjoy sex with her partner

thats like saying men dont need viagra because MY man can always get an erection. some men NEED it.
if a woman has a physical arousal problem that can be alieviated by a topical ointment, THEN she can enjoy the kind of sex you are describing when she uses it. if she has a blood flow problem, then all the tenderness in the world isnt going to be enough.
gel cant make up for a bad lover. it cant make up for the trauma of rape. but it CAN get things flowing so with other things going right she will be able to enjoy sex with her partner

I pulled the gun out of the holster a bit soon per se then maybe. I was just speaking from my own experience and I should of implied that if the stars are aligned correctly for those two then amazing things will happen. Sorry I didn't mean to sound like I knew the answer for everyone, but to me my wife is everyone. ;)

So what are the names of these "gels" ?

I pulled the gun out of the holster a bit soon per se then maybe. I was just speaking from my own experience and I should of implied that if the stars are aligned correctly for those two then amazing things will happen. Sorry I didn't mean to sound like I knew the answer for everyone, but to me my wife is everyone. ;)
yeah great sex is a life changing experience

certainly a woman without medical problems doesnt NEED to use anything in order to have a good sex life. although there is nothing wrong with using "toys" now and then.

so let me give you a little advice, as an OLD woman.

things change with age. children, stress, hormonal fluxuations, all affect a womans sexual response. it can happen that the standard recipe doesnt work anymore. sometimes its because the woman doesnt realize that her needs have changed. so shes asking for stuff thats not gonna work. quite often its for reasons that have nothing to do with YOU.

its gonna happen just like there will be a day when you fail to achieve an erection. its physiology not lack of love and committment. and its temporary.
dont panic when it does happen, its just a part of life. things will get back on track if you are patient.

Orgasms :The ultimate Pleassurre.. ;)

Orgasms :The ultimate Pleassurre.. ;)

Perhaps for females.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137118,00.html

Sorry I was reading about this thing today and thought about it and realized that there is no need for this stuff if we truly know what one another wants. I am not saying I am against it for people that want to use it, I care less what people do when consent is given by adults.
The sensation a woman feels is very much the same thing a man does but because women understand the phsycological aspect of it a bit better it takes a real understanding to what a woman wants. To give this to a woman is really not that hard at all (no pun intended either) it is very easy to do and any man and woman can achieve perfect love making when it is understood. I must add that I was not aware of this prior to knowing God. So I believe the key to achieving perfection at anything in life is knowing God.

Well that explains it then. Fox News caters exclusivly to the most self centered aspects of the aggressive masculine psyche. The audience may be aware that women only need a little understanding to be satisfied, but it's easier to just slather some ointment on them and then roll over and fall asleep. :D

Orgasm isn't always the point of sex. Sometimes, no matter how you try, you're not going to have one. It's not because you aren't turned on, and it's not because you're doing it wrong, it's because you simply aren't going to have one tonight. This happens to women and men. It just does. Sometimes, yeah, I could use a little help from a gel because I'm in the mood, and he's doing everything right, but something physical isn't clicking on.

I don't think they're useless, any more than I think viagra is useless and pointless. You're wading into a sexual morass here that isn't so simple.

Orgasm isn't always the point of sex. Sometimes, no matter how you try, you're not going to have one. It's not because you aren't turned on, and it's not because you're doing it wrong, it's because you simply aren't going to have one tonight. This happens to women and men. It just does. Sometimes, yeah, I could use a little help from a gel because I'm in the mood, and he's doing everything right, but something physical isn't clicking on.

I don't think they're useless, any more than I think viagra is useless and pointless. You're wading into a sexual morass here that isn't so simple.

I beg to difer...

A woman will not reach an orgasm due to several reasons, mainly physical or psychological. This means:

1) Some women dont know hot to satisfy themselves, dont know what drives them sexually, so their ignorance makes it imposible for them to reach an orgasm, because if not even themselves know how do they expect a second person to find out for them.

2) Some women dont reach an orgasm because of pain. Virgins or women with just few sex experiences throughout their life, experience pain during intercourse, mix that with some of the ignorance about their own body, it's a terrible mix. Also after one or multiple-orgasm the g-spot or the clitoris maybe too sensitive and if attempted again, it will cause pain and the woman wont reach an orgasm.

3) Some women may not find you atractive and not feel sexually motived to get an orgasm, or may have a terrible experience associated with sex, or many psychological issues, that range from guilt or just hating the spot you picked to have sex in will influence in the chances of her getting an orgasm.

In all cases, the safest bet to make the woman reach an orgasm is through oral sex. You have to be extremely patience in this, because it's not a 3 minute work. You have to initialize with a LOT of foreplay, mainly kissing, caressing, nibbling the nipples, be creative, the body is packed with "spots" take your time discovering and exploiting them.

After about half hour of just foreplay, you can proceed to start the oral sex, dont ever just lick like crazy, try to avoid making it something mechanic, lick her the lips of the vagina, stick your tongue in it, change the movements, mostly try to concentrate in the clit, use all kinds of movements, if you are going to lick it slowly, do it spreading your tongue out as wide as you posibly can, if you plan to do it fast, try to catch the clit between your lips, and start making quick movements, but mearly touching it, dont do it too hard because it will hurt them, you should try to mix all of those techniques to keep them guessing. Also try the alphabet technique or something similar, the key here is to be resistant, it should last some time even with all the previus foreplay.

You can always mix that with G-Spot play, sticking one of your fingers inside and reaching her G-spot and making preasure over it, the G-Spot is the key for female multipleorgasm, when you see it happend you'll be blown away, and you never get tired of doing it.

Tomorrow I'll continue on how to achive the orgasm through intercourse. I'm too sleepy now.

I'm not a man, actually...

What I mean is that some days, no matter what I do, I'm not going to have an orgasm. Some days are borderline, and the gel might help. It's usually got something to do with something on my mind that keeps me from letting go.

It's more than just physical.

You can't just flip a switch and, "hey presto!" an orgasm.

I'm not a man, actually...

What I mean is that some days, no matter what I do, I'm not going to have an orgasm. Some days are borderline, and the gel might help. It's usually got something to do with something on my mind that keeps me from letting go.

It's more than just physical.

You can't just flip a switch and, "hey presto!" an orgasm.

Or CAN you...

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I beg to difer...

A woman will not reach an orgasm due to several reasons, mainly physical or psychological. This means:

1) Some women dont know hot to satisfy themselves, dont know what drives them sexually, so their ignorance makes it imposible for them to reach an orgasm, because if not even themselves know how do they expect a second person to find out for them.

2) Some women dont reach an orgasm because of pain. Virgins or women with just few sex experiences throughout their life, experience pain during intercourse, mix that with some of the ignorance about their own body, it's a terrible mix. Also after one or multiple-orgasm the g-spot or the clitoris maybe too sensitive and if attempted again, it will cause pain and the woman wont reach an orgasm.

3) Some women may not find you atractive and not feel sexually motived to get an orgasm, or may have a terrible experience associated with sex, or many psychological issues, that range from guilt or just hating the spot you picked to have sex in will influence in the chances of her getting an orgasm.

In all cases, the safest bet to make the woman reach an orgasm is through oral sex. You have to be extremely patience in this, because it's not a 3 minute work. You have to initialize with a LOT of foreplay, mainly kissing, caressing, nibbling the nipples, be creative, the body is packed with "spots" take your time discovering and exploiting them.

After about half hour of just foreplay, you can proceed to start the oral sex, dont ever just lick like crazy, try to avoid making it something mechanic, lick her the lips of the vagina, stick your tongue in it, change the movements, mostly try to concentrate in the clit, use all kinds of movements, if you are going to lick it slowly, do it spreading your tongue out as wide as you posibly can, if you plan to do it fast, try to catch the clit between your lips, and start making quick movements, but mearly touching it, dont do it too hard because it will hurt them, you should try to mix all of those techniques to keep them guessing. Also try the alphabet technique or something similar, the key here is to be resistant, it should last some time even with all the previus foreplay.

You can always mix that with G-Spot play, sticking one of your fingers inside and reaching her G-spot and making preasure over it, the G-Spot is the key for female multipleorgasm, when you see it happend you'll be blown away, and you never get tired of doing it.

Tomorrow I'll continue on how to achive the orgasm through intercourse. I'm too sleepy now.
ya ya you have found the secrets to sex

now listen to the women before you lick some poor woman to death

sometimes its JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN no matter if you do everything right nor not.

I personally think it might have to do with nurturing each others spirit more than the body. But thats just my take on it. I dont consider sex the same thing as making love anymore. If you were to ask me the difference a couple months ago I wouldn't of had a clue to the meaning of making love, only sex.

So what are the names of these "gels" ?

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it was named in the article linked above

but there are various types and various effects and various outlets from the doctors office to the sex shop

it was named in the article linked above

but there are various types and various effects and various outlets from the doctors office to the sex shopMost of the sex-shop articles don't work.....do they?

You all make it sound more complicated than it need be.
Orgasms are simple, it's called the clitoris.
Turning a woman on, well that's the psychological part, because we're not as visual. Vacant Planets' post wasn't too bad ... *cough* It still doesn't have to be difficult.

The clitoris isn't the only way to get an orgasm, this is know, but it is the simplest. There are plenty more fun ways to go about it. But you know, we don't always have to have orgasms to enjoy.

why does everybody jsut assume that men are sex machines who really dont care and can just have fun anytime? i mean myself, i can get slightly aroused by other people but unless its my girl, then it just plain doesnt work! Guys are more sensitive than you seem to think...

why does everybody jsut assume that men are sex machines who really dont care and can just have fun anytime? i mean myself, i can get slightly aroused by other people but unless its my girl, then it just plain doesnt work! Guys are more sensitive than you seem to think...
No we aren't. Don't friggin lie.
JNow me, I'm chattin wit this girl i met in DC. Turned out she lived about an hour from me
helll ya./.\.

You all make it sound more complicated than it need be.
Orgasms are simple, it's called the clitoris.
Turning a woman on, well that's the psychological part, because we're not as visual. Vacant Planets' post wasn't too bad ... *cough* It still doesn't have to be difficult.

The clitoris isn't the only way to get an orgasm, this is know, but it is the simplest. There are plenty more fun ways to go about it. But you know, we don't always have to have orgasms to enjoy.

Not being funny, man, but have you ever tried to masturbate, and no matter what you do, it's not happening? That's what I'm trying to say. There are days when it's just not going to happen. The clitoris is not the magic button. Sometimes there is nothing you can do about it. Maybe she's got something on her mind, or maybe it's just a day when it just isn't going to happen, no matter how much time and effort you put into it.

This is all to illustrate that sex is not a totally physical OR mental thing. It can be either/or, depending on the wind direction, cloud cover, relative humidity, and the price of tea in China.

Not being funny, man, but have you ever tried to masturbate, and no matter what you do, it's not happening? That's what I'm trying to say. There are days when it's just not going to happen. The clitoris is not the magic button. Sometimes there is nothing you can do about it. Maybe she's got something on her mind, or maybe it's just a day when it just isn't going to happen, no matter how much time and effort you put into it.

This is all to illustrate that sex is not a totally physical OR mental thing. It can be either/or, depending on the wind direction, cloud cover, relative humidity, and the price of tea in China.

Man, I hate those days. Hate with all the passion in my soul.

Oh wait, I don't have a soul. Silly me :rolleyes:

Replace 'in my soul' with 'in my being' and you get the atheist version :p

Man, I hate those days. Hate with all the passion in my soul.

Oh wait, I don't have a soul. Silly me :rolleyes:

Replace 'in my soul' with 'in my being' and you get the atheist version :p

Don't sweat it. It happens to us all. ;)