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Osama Bin Laden (Bush's Number One Priority), states threatens more attacks, and slams Bush over the "My Pet Goat" story:

Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has appeared on a new videotape directly admitting to organizing the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and threatening more attacks to come.......

......Appearing healthy and reading from a sheet of paper, he says the attacks would have been less severe if U.S. President George Bush had been more alert.

"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a school when the attack occurred.

Did George Bush drop the ball?

Story and video here:

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1099080636534_94489836?hub=topstories#

Haha, goats. :p

Yeah, it doesn't look good for Bush's tough-guy image when his greatest enemy is ridiculing him.

Though then again, if you listen to Bush's speeches, one might get the idea that Kerry is Bush's greatest enemy.

Yes, but in far different ways. As much as I dislike Bush, I don't think we should factor in Osama's opinion in anyway. While we do need to factor the conditions that create Osamas, Osama himself deserves no such attention except to go and get him (not the people that happen to be living near him who don't really know whats going on)

Yes, but in far different ways. As much as I dislike Bush, I don't think we should factor in Osama's opinion in anyway. While we do need to factor the conditions that create Osamas, Osama himself deserves no such attention except to go and get him (not the people that happen to be living near him who don't really know whats going on)
I think Osama is purposely taunting Bush, especially since Bush stated that Osama WAS the Number One Priority. The fact that Bin Laden is still in circulation after Bush's hollow promises, speaks volumes about the failed war on terrorism?

I think the biggest effect this will have on the Right is to make them squeal, "Look Osama watched Fahrenheit 9/11 too! Moore is in league with the terrorists!"

(shakes head)

I think the biggest effect this will have on the Right is to make them squeal, "Look Osama watched Fahrenheit 9/11 too! Moore is in league with the terrorists!"

(shakes head)
The FACT remains that Bin Laden is absolutely bang on with his criticism? If the right attack Moore on this one, that will be like clucthing at straws?

The FACT remains that Bin Laden is absolutely bang on with his criticism? If the right attack Moore on this one, that will be like clucthing at straws?
Since when has anyone been above clutching at straws? I think we'll see Gymoor's prediction by the end of the night....

This has already been debated. Even many of the liberals agree that Bush was right to keep his calm and not work up the children. His handling of 9/11 at the time it happened is now largely considered wise.

Anyway, I am elated that Osama Bin Laden is criticizing Bush. Should shut Stephistan and Gymoor up in regards to their "Al Qeada endorses Bush" comments.

This has already been debated. Even many of the liberals agree that Bush was right to keep his calm and not work up the children. His handling of 9/11 at the time it happened is now largely considered wise.

Anyway, I am elated that Osama Bin Laden is criticizing Bush. Should shut Stephistan and Gymoor up in regards to their "Al Qeada endorses Bush" comments.

Cherry picking as usual. He's not really complimentary of Kerry either.

Where might Al-Qaeda hit next? New York again or some other U.S. city? And how? Dirty bomb or hijacked planes again? Hmm... the options are endless...

This has already been debated. Even many of the liberals agree that Bush was right to keep his calm and not work up the children. His handling of 9/11 at the time it happened is now largely considered wise.

Anyway, I am elated that Osama Bin Laden is criticizing Bush. Should shut Stephistan and Gymoor up in regards to their "Al Qeada endorses Bush" comments.
I disagree that the liberals here agree that that "Bush was right to keep his calm". When your country is under attack, the time to act is NOW not later. He could easily have left without causing panic amongst the children.

Bush was asleep at the switch and put more Americans in peril by doing so.

Clearly the fact Bin laden can still make such a tape at all points to Bush's FAILURE in the so called 'war on terror'...

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

And yet the coincidence is that Bin Laden shows up just before the election making statements that just happen to semantically and logically AGREE with the LEFT'S assessment of Bush. Making those views easier to dismiss for undecided voters- I mean would you want to AGREE with Bin laden?

I find this hard to ignore...

Yes, but in far different ways. As much as I dislike Bush, I don't think we should factor in Osama's opinion in anyway. While we do need to factor the conditions that create Osamas, Osama himself deserves no such attention except to go and get him (not the people that happen to be living near him who don't really know whats going on)


Ah, but should we factor in the opinion who can't even think of a name? :P

My My, a video tape from Bin Laden... he denounces Bush... me thinks the respons will be as follows...

"OMIGOD BIN LADEN HAS COME TO KILL US ALL, QUICK MR BUSH ONLY YOU CAN SAVE US FROM EVIL, especially this evil man because you talked about him once until you lost him and then quitly forgot he existed, BUT NEVER THE LESS ITS DESPERATLY IMPORTANT YOU PROTECT US, and dont take that about the goat, goats are important to America..."

I disagree that the liberals here agree that that "Bush was right to keep his calm". When your country is under attack, the time to act is NOW not later. He could easily have left without causing panic amongst the children.

Bush was asleep at the switch and put more Americans in peril by doing so.

Actually the real question that needs asked to be why was Dick Cheney wisked to an underground bunker while the president was left in a PUBLIC building. You see, panicing the children should not have been his concern- Endangering them should have been- there would have been NO way to have known that Bush wasn't ALSO a TARGET!!! Before 9/11 there were threats against him. Yet he stayed in non-secure building!!

Ken

I think the biggest effect this will have on the Right is to make them squeal, "Look Osama watched Fahrenheit 9/11 too! Moore is in league with the terrorists!"

(shakes head)
LMAO! Jeez . . . Where's Cartman when you need him?

My My, a video tape from Bin Laden... he denounces Bush... me thinks the respons will be as follows...

"OMIGOD BIN LADEN HAS COME TO KILL US ALL, QUICK MR BUSH ONLY YOU CAN SAVE US FROM EVIL, especially this evil man because you talked about him once until you lost him and then quitly forgot he existed, BUT NEVER THE LESS ITS DESPERATLY IMPORTANT YOU PROTECT US, and dont take that about the goat, goats are important to America..."
What I cannot understand is how so many Americans feel "safer" with Bush as President, even though terrorist attacks have increased since the invasion of Iraq and Bin Laden is alive and well.

America is spending more money on fighting a war in Iraq and rebuilding "the Iraqi" economy than they are spending in tracking down America's "Number One Priority". It boggles the mind.

Actually the real question that needs asked to be why was Dick Cheney wisked to an underground bunker while the president was left in a PUBLIC building. You see, panicing the children should not have been his concern- Endangering them should have been- there would have been NO way to have known that Bush wasn't ALSO a TARGET!!! Before 9/11 there were threats against him. Yet he stayed in non-secure building!!

Ken
You are totally correct. Bush "endangered" those childrens lives, and the lives of countless other Americans by not getting his ass in gear.

Actually the real question that needs asked to be why was Dick Cheney wisked to an underground bunker while the president was left in a PUBLIC building. You see, panicing the children should not have been his concern- Endangering them should have been- there would have been NO way to have known that Bush wasn't ALSO a TARGET!!! Before 9/11 there were threats against him. Yet he stayed in non-secure building!!

Ken
Huh. That's a pretty decent argument that hadn't occoured to me yet. Nice one.

Ah, but should we factor in the opinion who can't even think of a name? :P
Touche

Anyway, I am elated that Osama Bin Laden is criticizing Bush. Should shut Stephistan and Gymoor up in regards to their "Al Qeada endorses Bush" comments.

And they would be right. The thing is that Osama Bin Laden *has* said that. More precisely, he said things along the lines of wanting to see Bush re-elected because he thinks a Bush re-election will make it easier for his organisation to reach its goals.

What did you think? That he endorsed Bush because OBL thinks tax cuts for the rich are good?

This has already been debated. Even many of the liberals agree that Bush was right to keep his calm and not work up the children. His handling of 9/11 at the time it happened is now largely considered wise.

Anyway, I am elated that Osama Bin Laden is criticizing Bush. Should shut Stephistan and Gymoor up in regards to their "Al Qeada endorses Bush" comments.
Oh stop! He easily could have excused himself gracefully saying he had "presidential duties" to attend to, thank them for the time together and stepped away with no trauma. They wouldn't have been traumatized then and they would understand when they became aware why the president was needed elsewhere.

My six year old grandson saw bodies falling and saw the south tower come down while being evacuated. That is traumatized!

specialness
;)

Osama Bin Laden (Bush's Number One Priority), states threatens more attacks, and slams Bush over the "My Pet Goat" story:

Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has appeared on a new videotape directly admitting to organizing the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and threatening more attacks to come.......

......Appearing healthy and reading from a sheet of paper, he says the attacks would have been less severe if U.S. President George Bush had been more alert.

"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a school when the attack occurred.

Did George Bush drop the ball?

Story and video here:

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1099080636534_94489836?hub=topstories#

YES!!! Now Kerry is sure to win.

And they would be right. The thing is that Osama Bin Laden *has* said that. More precisely, he said things along the lines of wanting to see Bush re-elected because he thinks a Bush re-election will make it easier for his organisation to reach its goals.

What did you think? That he endorsed Bush because OBL thinks tax cuts for the rich are good?

LMFAO!!!

Oops. I laughed so hard I think I $hitted myself!

In my personal opinion, I don't think Bush has what it takes to run the United States. It is a fact that you have more of a chance of drowning in your bathtub than dying by a terrorist attack. It's the neocons that have blown this out of proportion. Not that I am saying it's not an issue but I think health care and education funding is more important than the Pax Americana.

Actually the real question that needs asked to be why was Dick Cheney wisked to an underground bunker while the president was left in a PUBLIC building. You see, panicing the children should not have been his concern- Endangering them should have been- there would have been NO way to have known that Bush wasn't ALSO a TARGET!!! Before 9/11 there were threats against him. Yet he stayed in non-secure building!!

Ken
Duh, in this sort of time you shouldn't have all your eggs in one basket. Suppose there was another terrorist attack at where Bush was speaking. We'd have lost both the President and Vice President in one attack. The you libs would have either been (appallingly) celebrating Bush/Cheney's death or criticizing them for not thinking of what I just said. Seriously, why act like honest intellectuals when we know nothing Bush does will be good enough for you?

Why would anyone listen to anything Osama bin Laden says? Why would Osama be so interested in telling us that our president isn't doing a good enough job finding him? Oh wait! Maybe it's reverse psychology! What an idea.

Why would anyone listen to anything Osama bin Laden says? Why would Osama be so interested in telling us that our president isn't doing a good enough job finding him? Oh wait! Maybe it's reverse psychology! What an idea.
Well.....you see the real problem is that Bush made Osama his "Number One Priority", and the second part of the problem is that Bush now states that he (Bin Laden) is not that important anymore because he hadn't heard from him in awhile, which leads to the third problem, in that Bin Laden is a "living" martyr to the cause of terrorism, and I am sure that gives great impetus to his followers?

You see, Bush would tell you that America is "winning the war on terrorism", when this is truly not the case. That is why I cannot believe that many Americans endorse Bush because they feel "safer", even though terrorism has increased. :(

Why would anyone listen to anything Osama bin Laden says? Why would Osama be so interested in telling us that our president isn't doing a good enough job finding him? Oh wait! Maybe it's reverse psychology! What an idea.
Don't spin it. OBL considers himself at war with the US. He commented, "Your security is not in the hands of (Democrat Sen. John) Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands. And each state that does not harm our security will remain safe." So OBL taunts Bush. He also denigrates Kerry as any solution. His comments are nonpartisan. The Bushies want to use this and the Kerrites want to use this. The fact is it is an equal opportunity rant that will be completely ineffectual save for a few timid souls.

Anyway, I am elated that Osama Bin Laden is criticizing Bush. Should shut Stephistan and Gymoor up in regards to their "Al Qeada endorses Bush" comments.

You think Al Qaeda is stupid? I don't think they are. They know how the American mind works. If they said "vote for Bush" that wouldn't get them any legs. I've been saying since I seen it this afternoon it was pretty obvious because of the timing of the tape OBL is surely trying to influence the election.. He knows the American mentality , we all do. Look how the Americans reacted when Spain was attacked and freaked like they were giving into terror. You don't think OBL & co don't know that? Of course they do! I think if Americans aren't smart (which many aren't) OBL will have them falling right into his trap.. He wants Bush to get elected, if he didn't, he wouldn't of bashed him so much. The whole world knows the stubborn American attitude. That's my take on it. It would appear to me rather obvious. OBL wants Bush to win.

I'm comforted by the fact, of course, that while Bush himself is a bit slow to realise the gravity of things, he has some great people who are advising him that do. Nevertheless, we cannot discredit the fact that Bush was involved in the decision making after the attacks.

"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a school when the attack occurred.

ohmygod

osama bin laden has seen FARENHEIT 9/11

does that freak anyone else out??

Freak out about terrorism...

People blow it way out of proportion. The whole idea is to scare us. Worrying about it all the time is letting them be worried.

I live near san francisco. A dirty bomb would effect me. A large hit on the city could hurt my father, who works there, or hurt my family economically. Do I fear anything?

Hardly. These terrorists don't want to kill people. They want to scare us. If they wanted to hurt us, they would have hit the towers in the middle of the day, increasing deaths more than tenfold. Or, they could have crashed into the nuclear reactor(Indian point, maybe? I dont remember the name). If they had hit it with two planes, they quite possibly could have set it off, taking out the eastern seaboard and possibly 8 million people.

They are moral, despite what the media and the presidency leads us to believe. Despite comments about them wanting to end our way of life, they are looking out for themselves more than hurting us. Osama pretty clearly said this. Its not that they hate freedom, that one always cracks me up. They want security. We want security.

ohmygod

osama bin laden has seen FARENHEIT 9/11

does that freak anyone else out??
Woo hoo! I'm Kresgin! (to be fair, so is Gymoor....)

Freak out about terrorism...

People blow it way out of proportion. The whole idea is to scare us. Worrying about it all the time is letting them be worried.

I live near san francisco. A dirty bomb would effect me. A large hit on the city could hurt my father, who works there, or hurt my family economically. Do I fear anything?

Hardly. These terrorists don't want to kill people. They want to scare us. If they wanted to hurt us, they would have hit the towers in the middle of the day, increasing deaths more than tenfold. Or, they could have crashed into the nuclear reactor(Indian point, maybe? I dont remember the name). If they had hit it with two planes, they quite possibly could have set it off, taking out the eastern seaboard and possibly 8 million people.

They are moral, despite what the media and the presidency leads us to believe. Despite comments about them wanting to end our way of life, they are looking out for themselves more than hurting us. Osama pretty clearly said this. Its not that they hate freedom, that one always cracks me up. They want security. We want security.
Completely not the point of your post, but-I grew up next (not right next, but close enough) to a nuclear power plant and we saw lots of footage of the reactor walls being tested against impacts from airliners, because it was also next to three airforce bases and a major(-ish) domestic airport. They're built (or so they where pretty insistant on convincing us they were) to withstand airliner impacts. Completely not the point of your post, sorry. We do need to think better about what is happening and why. Understanding what 'the enemy' is fighting for is not the same as siding with them. We seem to have forgoten that. (to put the point of your post back on track...)

Indeed. My main point, in that sense, was that they weren't just trying to kill as many as they could. They were making a point, and it sure as hell got it across.

Am I the only one who believes this was totally macavellian on OBL's part?

All fanatics need an enemy, Bush is OBL's.. He doesn't want to lose him, he's been OBL's best recruiter ever! Plus as long as Bush keeps fighting "other" countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 (Iraq) OBL stays free.

OBL knows if Kerry get's elected he's coming after him.. it's so obvious.. at least to me it is.

I don't know.

If Bin Laden want's Bush to be re-elected then the sure fire way is an attack on the mainland.

This tape will not convert many people. We have heard him making threats(or the person speaking for him as I think he is dead) so they don't affect many people.

Time will tell.....

I don't know.

If Bin Laden want's Bush to be re-elected then the sure fire way is an attack on the mainland.

Well, it is OBL's trademark to come out with a tape before an attack.. there is still 4 days left.. But I have read numerous articles over the last year that all made perfect sense to me why OBL would want Bush in office and not Kerry. Bush is the best thing to ever happen to Al Qaeda, hate to say it, but look around, it's true.

You think Al Qaeda is stupid? I don't think they are. They know how the American mind works. If they said "vote for Bush" that wouldn't get them any legs. I've been saying since I seen it this afternoon it was pretty obvious because of the timing of the tape OBL is surely trying to influence the election.. He knows the American mentality , we all do. Look how the Americans reacted when Spain was attacked and freaked like they were giving into terror. You don't think OBL & co don't know that? Of course they do! I think if Americans aren't smart (which many aren't) OBL will have them falling right into his trap.. He wants Bush to get elected, if he didn't, he wouldn't of bashed him so much. The whole world knows the stubborn American attitude. That's my take on it. It would appear to me rather obvious. OBL wants Bush to win.
I think thats bullshit. I don't think they give a damn. I don't think that a terrorist attack is either more or less likely under Bush than Kerry. I don't think that more than a handful of terrorists care more than a very tiny amount about the outcome of the election. There are any number of logical ways to look at it, but the whole thing will depend on to what extent Al Qaida (insofar as they exist) believe about the campaigning of each candidate. And even then, I don't think that it matters, cos what they hate is the existance of Israel (which isn't going to stop anytime soon), and the plurality and permissiveness of western culture (equally, not gonna stop anytime soon)

I think thats bullshit. I don't think they give a damn. I don't think that a terrorist attack is either more or less likely under Bush than Kerry.

I don't either, that's not why I believe he wants Bush to win, read my other posts on the subject Spof. :)

Where might Al-Qaeda hit next? New York again or some other U.S. city? And how? Dirty bomb or hijacked planes again? Hmm... the options are endless...
My bet was Yankee stadium...at game 3 of the World series...

You think Al Qaeda is stupid? I don't think they are. They know how the American mind works. If they said "vote for Bush" that wouldn't get them any legs. I've been saying since I seen it this afternoon it was pretty obvious because of the timing of the tape OBL is surely trying to influence the election.. He knows the American mentality , we all do. Look how the Americans reacted when Spain was attacked and freaked like they were giving into terror. You don't think OBL & co don't know that? Of course they do! I think if Americans aren't smart (which many aren't) OBL will have them falling right into his trap.. He wants Bush to get elected, if he didn't, he wouldn't of bashed him so much. The whole world knows the stubborn American attitude. That's my take on it. It would appear to me rather obvious. OBL wants Bush to win.
Precisely. He is not looking for peace. He wants to foment a revolution against the west's influence, especially in Saudi Arabia. He knows he can count on Bush to provide both the emotional environment and the pretext.

ohmygod

osama bin laden has seen FARENHEIT 9/11

does that freak anyone else out??
Naw, his people here file reports via email. His addy is JihadJerry@aol.com.

Hey, Bush may or may not have dropped the ball. but OBL should be happy that Bush did not drop the Bomb!

Then again maybe OBL is sad that Bush did not turn Afghanistan into the world's largest glass lake... If he did, then he (OBL) would be in paradise being "serviced" by 74 Virgins right now.

You think Al Qaeda is stupid? I don't think they are. They know how the American mind works. If they said "vote for Bush" that wouldn't get them any legs. I've been saying since I seen it this afternoon it was pretty obvious because of the timing of the tape OBL is surely trying to influence the election.. He knows the American mentality , we all do. Look how the Americans reacted when Spain was attacked and freaked like they were giving into terror. You don't think OBL & co don't know that? Of course they do! I think if Americans aren't smart (which many aren't) OBL will have them falling right into his trap.. He wants Bush to get elected, if he didn't, he wouldn't of bashed him so much. The whole world knows the stubborn American attitude. That's my take on it. It would appear to me rather obvious. OBL wants Bush to win.


Yet again, this has been well discussed. Many times Steph. And it always ends up in concluding that we should all build up an immunity to iocaine powder. :)

Yet again, this has been well discussed. Many times Steph. And it always ends up in concluding that we should all build up an immunity to iocaine powder. :)

Oh, Snap! Yes, AS I was saying... As usual, I am reminded of a Dune quote:

"He's bragging. No one who is sleeping deep underground hiding from lasguns has the right to brag."

We could say Osama's condoning Bush to try to sway the election in Kerry's favor. It could be the exact other way around. WHo knows? More to the point, who cares? We have Osama hiding in caves, injured, close to death most likely. Not living a very comfortable life, probably. COwering everytime he hears something outside the hole. Most of his buddies are caught. whatever he says probably won't matter horse shit to voters. This is good, a man like that should never have that type of power.

My Pet Goat? Send Bush a copy of "My Pet Goat starts Jihad". :)

This has already been debated. Even many of the liberals agree that Bush was right to keep his calm and not work up the children. His handling of 9/11 at the time it happened is now largely considered wise.

Anyway, I am elated that Osama Bin Laden is criticizing Bush. Should shut Stephistan and Gymoor up in regards to their "Al Qeada endorses Bush" comments.

The originator of this thread missed what I found the more interresting part of bin Laden's statement, where he claims that Bush's delay in reacting to then news gave the terrorists "three times the required time, thank God."

Isn't it amazing how much death and absolute chaos our creation of Israel fifty years ago has caused?

I think Ron Reagan said it best. "If one person changes their vote based on the OBL video on either side they should be taken out back and hit on the head with a shovel" If Bush's number surge over the week-end we will know that the "October surprise" did in fact effect the American election. I wait with baited breath to see if OBL will indeed effect the American election. I figure we should know by the numbers by Monday.

I think Ron Reagan said it best. "If one person changes their vote based on the OBL video on either side they should be taken out back and hit on the head with a shovel" If Bush's number surge over the week-end we will know that the "October surprise" did in fact effect the American election. I wait with baited breath to see if OBL will indeed effect the American election. I figure we should know by the numbers by Monday.
I fully agree with your sentiment in that OBL definitely wants Bush to win. I think OBL is definitely afraid of Kerry's promise to hunt down the terrorists and kill them.

Lets face it, OBL has been relatively safe since the Bush administration decided to attack Iraq. OBL went from Bush's "Number One Priority" to a man that he has little concern for:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part -- deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of --

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

But George....earlier you stated that Bin Laden was your "Number One Priority"......

Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is -- as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide -- if, in fact, he's hiding at all.

So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

Well George......OBL is alive and plotting more attacks, the coalition is weaker, and the soldiers are not well supplied. Oh BTW George, terrorism has increased during your watch, and what do you mean about "strategy", when it appears that you didn't have an exit plan in place when you attacked Iraq.

So yeah....Bush is OBL's biggest fan right now!! :eek:

We could say Osama's condoning Bush to try to sway the election in Kerry's favor. It could be the exact other way around. WHo knows? More to the point, who cares? We have Osama hiding in caves, injured, close to death most likely. Not living a very comfortable life, probably. COwering everytime he hears something outside the hole. Most of his buddies are caught. whatever he says probably won't matter horse shit to voters. This is good, a man like that should never have that type of power.
Great Dune quote! Unfortunately, Usama didn't look that wounded, weak or uncomfortable in his cave (which looked very comfy, by the way). He may have lost a lot of friends, but thanks to the US letting up in Afghanistan and focusing in Iraq, he has many new ones.
If he really was that afraid he would have one on letting the US wonder if he was dead or alive, instead of making a video and taunting them
On the other hand, we see many in the US going into a panic, raising alert levels at the slightest rumor, nullifying individual freedoms, harrasing people who "look like terrorists", and threatening with their military every chance they get. So, who's bragging?

Osama Bin Laden (Bush's Number One Priority), states threatens more attacks, and slams Bush over the "My Pet Goat" story:

Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has appeared on a new videotape directly admitting to organizing the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and threatening more attacks to come.......

......Appearing healthy and reading from a sheet of paper, he says the attacks would have been less severe if U.S. President George Bush had been more alert.

"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a school when the attack occurred.

Did George Bush drop the ball?

Story and video here:

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1099080636534_94489836?hub=topstories#

I don't know, here he is again just taunting Bush, after invading 2 countries and who knows how many dead. This guy seems untouched by all the drama.
Until he's dead or in a prison cell, yeah Bush blew it, I coulda gave a toss about Saddam, he wasn't going anywhere. Now Bush just looks like an ass.

There was a beige background behind him, doesn't mean he is in a cave. I bet he's in a nice little house in northern pakistan, where some warlord or whoever is in control up there(I forget specifically) is keeping him protected.

Yeah, it doesn't look good for Bush's tough-guy image when his greatest enemy is ridiculing him.

Though then again, if you listen to Bush's speeches, one might get the idea that Kerry is Bush's greatest enemy.
You know, I don't care what spin you put on it. When you live in a cave, shit is not working out for you! How do you bring the girlfriend home to that? "Well, this isn't really my cave, it's just a rental. My cave is 1,000 square feet, but its closed for remodeling. Damn missiles." You know, say what you want Osama, but you are still in hiding, and if Allah gave a shit about you don't you think perhaps you might be in better shape?

There was a beige background behind him, doesn't mean he is in a cave. I bet he's in a nice little house in northern pakistan, where some warlord or whoever is in control up there(I forget specifically) is keeping him protected.

I doubt General Musharraf is protecting Osama. He is decidedly pro-USA.

I doubt General Musharraf is protecting Osama. He is decidedly pro-USA.

Im not saying he is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Areas,_Pakistan

Hardly under his control, either way.

I disagree that the liberals here agree that that "Bush was right to keep his calm". When your country is under attack, the time to act is NOW not later. He could easily have left without causing panic amongst the children.

Bush was asleep at the switch and put more Americans in peril by doing so.

Are you that naive to think that American can not function when the president is doing something else, such as flying on Air Force 1, in Crawford, at a meeting, or some other executive function? He is not a king, we have a decentralized government. The president is commander in chief, not a squad leader leading troops or defensive efforts on the ground. No one was in any more danger because Bush didn't run out of the room in a fit of emotion, and frankly that would have made him look weak. Anyone that thinks otherwise does not understand how government works. Furthermore, if you think the prime minister of Canada would have run out of the building and started pulling people out of the building, I think you are sadly mistaken. Not everyone can run to the scene of the danger, that would truely be dropping the ball. It is much wiser to stand back, gather the information and react.

Im not saying he is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Areas,_Pakistan

Hardly under his control, either way.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mapimages/middle_east/afghanistan/afghanistan.gif

Look at the border between the two countries. In many places it's very ill defined. If Osama is hiding in Pakistan, his options aren't that limited.

BAH!!!

To use internet termonology...it sounds like Osama Bendover is "trolling."

What the poor bastard doesn't realize is that both debate and outright mudslinging (read: flame) wars are THE grand tradition of US politics (not to mention quite a few other democratic nations).

His is a cute little attempt to create division, it is too bad (or perhaps great) that he doesn't understand democratic debate.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mapimages/middle_east/afghanistan/afghanistan.gif

Look at the border between the two countries. In many places it's very ill defined. If Osama is hiding in Pakistan, his options aren't that limited.

I don't understand whether thats against what i said, or what...

Are you that naive to think that American can not function when the president is doing something else, such as flying on Air Force 1, in Crawford, at a meeting, or some other executive function? He is not a king, we have a decentralized government. The president is commander in chief, not a squad leader leading troops or defensive efforts on the ground. No one was in any more danger because Bush didn't run out of the room in a fit of emotion, and frankly that would have made him look weak. Anyone that thinks otherwise does not understand how government works. Furthermore, if you think the prime minister of Canada would have run out of the building and started pulling people out of the building, I think you are sadly mistaken. Not everyone can run to the scene of the danger, that would truely be dropping the ball. It is much wiser to stand back, gather the information and react.
Who said that Bush had to "run out of the room in a fit of emotion"? I surely never stated that and I do believe that you are sensationalizing, rationalizing and trying to provide moral justification to the inaction of Bush while your country was under attack.

I think if Bush had been in the heat of battle, he would have been shot before he would have been able to figure out the clear and present danger that was confronting him.

Bush failed to report for duty when the trumpet was sounding the alert. IF Bush was a target on 9/11, and it appears that he was, he was recklessly endangering those children in that classroom. Oh and since you bring up "emotion", Bush seemed eerily devoid of any emotion as he sat there for several minutes contemplating God knows what.

If anyone is naive, it would be those that make excuses for failure.

Osama Bin Laden (Bush's Number One Priority), states threatens more attacks, and slams Bush over the "My Pet Goat" story:


Wow, are Bin Laden and Michael Moore coordinating? Are the American left and America's great satan in cahoots?

Duh, in this sort of time you shouldn't have all your eggs in one basket. Suppose there was another terrorist attack at where Bush was speaking. We'd have lost both the President and Vice President in one attack. The you libs would have either been (appallingly) celebrating Bush/Cheney's death or criticizing them for not thinking of what I just said. Seriously, why act like honest intellectuals when we know nothing Bush does will be good enough for you?

Halloccia,

Hmm.... Very interesting attempt at understanding my comments through erroneous political stereotypes. When did I suggested that Cheney and Bush should be TOGETHER physically or that I would wish them harm in any way?

What I asked was basically why was one "head of state" brought to a bunker while another is left in a insecure PUBLIC setting. Especially since Bush and other leaders had received death threats at the G8 summit using aircraft in July 2001!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/story/0,,558591,00.html


You'd also do well to also understand that Bush stayed for pictures an additional 20 minutes AFTER the being in the classroom itself... SO again I ask WHY was Cheney running the country ALONE from a bunker at the same moment Bush is UNABLE to extricate himself from a Florida PHOTO OP?

As horrified Americans watched the terror attacks of September 11, 2001, unfold on their television sets, Vice President Dick Cheney directed the U.S. government's response from an emergency bunker.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/11/cheney.king/

Osama is in no cave....Hes most likely in a rich oil country like saudi Arabia...He is an expelled prince after all :D