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Blame.

Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 17:49
We're all familiar with the White Houses' blame games...blaming Russia, blaming Canada, France, Germany, Spain...and never does the blame fall on the White House.

So who do you blame? What for? Why? And more important than why, 'Who gains' from the blame?

Just curious.
Lunatic Goofballs
29-10-2004, 17:51
I blame the chickens.

edit: I don't have to explain why. Those who understand already agree with me, and those who don't understand probably never will. :p
Tactical Grace
29-10-2004, 18:01
Here's what I find hilarious.

Something goes wrong, the Americans blame someone else. Usually the French, the UN, communists, or an abstract noun.

But if someone else blames the Americans, suddenly it's "Hey, let's not dwell on the past, we've all made mistakes, let's not apportion blame but focus on getting out of the mess we're in."

Sorry guys, much as you'd like it, you can't have it both ways.

You can't blame everyone else for a whole load of stuff, then screw up and expect the people you've blamed previously to empty their wallets to help you out. Nope, you're either going to have to stop blaming and accusing everyone in sight, or accept a whole list of stuff you'd rather not dwell on, before the international community lifts a finger to help you.

Just the way it goes.
Chodolo
29-10-2004, 18:02
Blame Canada!
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 18:04
We're all familiar with the White Houses' blame games...blaming Russia, blaming Canada, France, Germany, Spain...and never does the blame fall on the White House.

So who do you blame? What for? Why? And more important than why, 'Who gains' from the blame?

Just curious.


I blame only people like Dobbs-Town.

They are not only FUN to blame, but you're actually right in doing so..!

Which is a refreshing change from blaming people who had very little to no control over what they're being blamed for.
Areyoukiddingme
29-10-2004, 18:07
I blame the liberal press which has produced millions of leftist around the world with nothing better to say that "Bush is Evil" or "Bush caused the Hurricanes."
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 18:11
Here's what I find hilarious.

Something goes wrong, the Americans blame someone else. Usually the French, the UN, communists, or an abstract noun.

But if someone else blames the Americans, suddenly it's "Hey, let's not dwell on the past, we've all made mistakes, let's not apportion blame but focus on getting out of the mess we're in."

Sorry guys, much as you'd like it, you can't have it both ways.

You can't blame everyone else for a whole load of stuff, then screw up and expect the people you've blamed previously to empty their wallets to help you out. Nope, you're either going to have to stop blaming and accusing everyone in sight, or accept a whole list of stuff you'd rather not dwell on, before the international community lifts a finger to help you.

Just the way it goes.

Don't we all love people who, after a car wreck, refuse to help the "innocent victim" because they are too busy being pissy at the "guilty party"..?

You are an evil wretch, my friend. There's no way to sugarcoat that.

America takes full responsibilty for starting an action that has destroyed an evil dictatorship and has the potential of freeing the people of Iraq to make a productive and humane country of themselves, if they wish it.

If they don't wish it, then they get what they deserve.

But to sit on the side-lines laughing at the "pad press" that the "crasher" gets, while not helping a bleeding "victim" precisely BECAUSE it makes the "crasher" look bad is unbelievably evil.

Take your hilarity elsewhere, you pig.
Smokeria
29-10-2004, 18:11
:headbang: bush did cause the hurricanes didn't you know hehe
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 18:15
Take your hilarity elsewhere, you pig.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

Why don't you take your sanctimony elsewhere, Iakeokeo? Besides, you haven't properly answered the questions yet.

You pig.
Chodolo
29-10-2004, 18:17
I blame the liberal press which has produced millions of leftist around the world with nothing better to say that "Bush is Evil" or "Bush caused the Hurricanes."
Dude, the liberal press doesn't exist.
CaptainLegion
29-10-2004, 18:20
America takes full responsibilty for starting an action that has destroyed an evil dictatorship and has the potential of freeing the people of Iraq to make a productive and humane country of themselves, if they wish it.

If they don't wish it, then they get what they deserve.



Take your hilarity elsewhere, you pig.

Since when has USA successfully spread democracy?

Invading Iraq illeagally ,and killing over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, is a pretty big war crime. Especially when WMD have not been found.
Ashmoria
29-10-2004, 18:22
We're all familiar with the White Houses' blame games...blaming Russia, blaming Canada, France, Germany, Spain...and never does the blame fall on the White House.

So who do you blame? What for? Why? And more important than why, 'Who gains' from the blame?

Just curious.

DUH
its all bill clintons fault
La Terra di Liberta
29-10-2004, 18:25
Blame Canada!




I blame goat for problem, not great white north!!!!!!
Seosavists
29-10-2004, 18:25
I Blame the government of the Artic with their mind rays and weather machines. If you dont agree you're one of them you might not know it but YOU ARE!
Sussudio
29-10-2004, 18:29
I blame God.
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 18:30
Oh come on now, play the game.

'Who do you blame? What for? Why? And more important than why, 'Who gains' from the blame?'

I blame...let's see, now...pigeons...for ahhh, pooping...yes, for pooping on my neigbour's SUV. I stand to gain because what my neighbour doesn't know is, I throw my parrots' used cage-liners onto his vehicle while he's asleep.

See how easy it is? Now you try!
La Terra di Liberta
29-10-2004, 18:34
I blame God.


And those awful Boston Red Sox for ruining basbeall and not rightfully winning the World Series.
Roach-Busters
29-10-2004, 18:35
Dude, the liberal press doesn't exist.

Yes, it does. We have a very liberal, very pro-communist press. (No flaming)


As for who I blame? Let's see...

1)Al Quaeda
2)The CFR
3)The TC
4)TIE: Democrats and Republicans
5)UN
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 18:35
[QUOTE=Dobbs Town #9]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakeokeo

Take your hilarity elsewhere, you pig.


Why don't you take your sanctimony elsewhere, Iakeokeo? Besides, you haven't properly answered the questions yet.

You pig.

What question(s) would that be..?

For WHAT is there to "blame"..?

A potentially freed country? A bunch of dead soldiers? A bunch of dead bad-guys? A bunch of dead civilians? The cause of french geopolitical PMS?

Potenially freed country? America.
Dead soldiers? The badguys killing them.
Dead badguys? The good guys.
Dead civilians? Partially themselves for not getting out, and mostly the badguys for putting them in that situation.
French PMS? Being a pussy country it only makes sense...! :)

I have no problem being called a pig by the likes of you, or your kind. I take it as a badge that such evil as yourself see such a clear, and distasteful, distinction between the two of us.
Chodolo
29-10-2004, 18:42
Yes, it does. We have a very liberal, very pro-communist press. (No flaming)
Incorrect. We have a lazy, sensationalist, self-interested press that cares more about selling papers than honest reporting.

It may seem liberal during a Republican presidency for obvious reasons.

But during the Clinton era the supposed liberal media hammered his sex life relentlessly.

The newspapers do not get together and say, "How can we brainwash people into communism?" they say, "How can we sell a few more papers?"

It leads to sloppy journalism (for instance, the forged memo on Bush's National Guard service).

When the polls came out in September putting Bush ahead a few percent, and the Gallup announced a 13% Bush lead, all the "liberal" newspapers reported the sensational Gallup poll with huge headlines.

Liberal media is a myth. Conservatives try to paint any moderate voice as "liberal-slanted".
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 18:45
Iakeko, the whole coloured font/oversized font don't do nothin' for me. Anyway, you said:

I have no problem being called a pig by the likes of you, or your kind. I take it as a badge that such evil as yourself see such a clear, and distasteful, distinction between the two of us.

I guess I'm cursed with forever dreaming in technicolor, dude, 'cause I just don't see the world in black and white like you do. There's no good, no evil - just people, Iakeokeo.

If you don't want to play the game, and you've got an axe to grind, I'll meet you in whatever unfunny, nasty little thread you'd care to create and have it out with you.

And don't forget, dude, you were the one to first start hurling the word 'pig' around this place.

Pig.
Roach-Busters
29-10-2004, 18:46
Incorrect. We have a lazy, sensationalist, self-interested press that cares more about selling papers than honest reporting.

It may seem liberal during a Republican presidency for obvious reasons.

But during the Clinton era the supposed liberal media hammered his sex life relentlessly.

The newspapers do not get together and say, "How can we brainwash people into communism?" they say, "How can we sell a few more papers?"

It leads to sloppy journalism (for instance, the forged memo on Bush's National Guard service).

When the polls came out in September putting Bush ahead a few percent, and the Gallup announced a 13% Bush lead, all the "liberal" newspapers reported the sensational Gallup poll with huge headlines.

Liberal media is a myth. Conservatives try to paint any moderate voice as "liberal-slanted".

Thanks for disagreeing respectfully, politely, and without flaming. You have my utmost respect.

As for the media's pro-communism, here are some examples:

1)Walter Duranty's cover-up of Stalin's massacres in the 1930s-40s
2)Herbert Matthews's articles on the Spanish Civil War
3)The media's anti-Chiang, pro-Mao articles in the late 40s
4)The media's pro-Castro, anti-Batista articles of the late 50s (Herbert Matthews especially)
5)The media's pro-Lumumba articles in the early 60s
6)The media's Vietnam War articles
7)The media's anti-Smith, anti-Somoza, anti-Shah, and anti-Pinochet articles in the 70s and 80s
8)The media's endless praise of Nelson Mandela, Mikhail Gorbachev, etc.
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 18:47
[QUOTE=CaptainLegion #11]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakeokeo


America takes full responsibilty for starting an action that has destroyed an evil dictatorship and has the potential of freeing the people of Iraq to make a productive and humane country of themselves, if they wish it.

If they don't wish it, then they get what they deserve.

Take your hilarity elsewhere, you pig.

Since when has USA successfully spread democracy?

Invading Iraq illeagally ,and killing over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, is a pretty big war crime. Especially when WMD have not been found.

We spread CAPITALISM, not democracy. "Democracy" is just a paliative word used to not piss off the degenerate leftist populations anymore than necessary.

Democracy (representative democracy, not leftist [pure] democracy) evolves OUT OF capitalism. No one can, or should try, to spread "democracy", as it has to evolve in any particular place naturally.

The "illegalness" of killing Saddam and his regime is a myth, as no recognizable law exists that is both extranational and not fully agreed to by the extranational parties. You will say, America is in the UN therefore... which I counter with, the UN is an impotent turd that should be disregarded as the corrupt looney-bin that is.

100,000 civilians dead? So what? Would you have hung around where it's so dangerous and gotten killed? Not I. And as to civilian death as being a warcrime. Show me the court that can try us?

WMD..!? If you believed that that was the "reason" (singular) or justification of the Iraq action, then you are as naive as they come. Which is quite fitting for you leftists, as you are all arrested adolescents by nature anyway.
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 18:48
Yes, it does. We have a very liberal, very pro-communist press. (No flaming)


As for who I blame? Let's see...

1)Al Quaeda
2)The CFR
3)The TC
4)TIE: Democrats and Republicans
5)UN

Okay, but who stands to gain, and why? You might want to narrow your scope a bit.

BTW, where are all these liberal presses I keep hearing about? All I ever see or hear from the American media is cheerleading.
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 18:50
[INDENT][QUOTE=CaptainLegion #11]
[INDENT]Quote:
blah blah blah.[/FONT][/COLOR]

So you don't want to play the game. Why are you still here?
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 18:54
[QUOTE=Chodolo #20]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roach-Busters
Yes, it does. We have a very liberal, very pro-communist press. (No flaming)


Incorrect. We have a lazy, sensationalist, self-interested press that cares more about selling papers than honest reporting.

It may seem liberal during a Republican presidency for obvious reasons.

But during the Clinton era the supposed liberal media hammered his sex life relentlessly.

The newspapers do not get together and say, "How can we brainwash people into communism?" they say, "How can we sell a few more papers?"

It leads to sloppy journalism (for instance, the forged memo on Bush's National Guard service).

When the polls came out in September putting Bush ahead a few percent, and the Gallup announced a 13% Bush lead, all the "liberal" newspapers reported the sensational Gallup poll with huge headlines.

Liberal media is a myth. Conservatives try to paint any moderate voice as "liberal-slanted".

The "individuals" of the press are overwhelmingly liberal.

The "money-guys" are overwhelmingly conservative.

Chodolo and his/her cadre see that they (leftists) are a minority, and therefore feel that any bad news for them is the result of a rightist press.

Rightists see the vehemence and noisy over-representation of the left in the press, compared with their minority numbers in society, as an "undemocratic" force (unrepresentative of overall society) and call the press leftist simply because of that fact.

What would Chodolo like to see our press be..?
Zhaid
29-10-2004, 18:55
I blame spiderman. Without him, I'd be well in full control of Europe by now.
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 18:57
What would Chodolo like to see our press be..?

I don't know but I do know what I'd like you to be. Gone. You're duller than a ginsu knife used for cutting down oak trees.
Ashmoria
29-10-2004, 19:01
ok dobbs, just for you, ill give it a try

i blame

global warming

for what?

all the heat that has addled peoples brains and made them vote republcan


who gains from the blame? ME because this means i dont have to try to convince repub voters that they are wrong


ok its not FUNNY but give me time, i just wanted to see if this thread can get back to being lighthearted.

youll probably have to start again
CornixPes II
29-10-2004, 19:05
The colour turquoise for being the only colour that can be both green and blue at the same time and still retain respect by the majority of mankind.
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 19:05
[QUOTE=Dobbs Town #25]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakeokeo
[QUOTE=CaptainLegion #11]Quote:
blah blah blah.



So you don't want to play the game. Why are you still here?

Firstly, I didn't say "blah blah blah", and you are obviously scared of what I did say.

Secondly, I find it amusing (as I'm sure you don't) to try to balance out the "left/right" proclivities of these forums.

The left considers these forums their property (despite their problem with the concept of "property") much like the left considers the press to be their property.

And the left HATES non-PC folk like myself. Which makes me happy.

Regardless of the leftist protestations that "the right wants no dissent", the left is the most dissent averse set of people on this planet.

To dissent on the left will get you killed (literally or econo-socially).

To dissent on the right will get you laughed at, but if you can prove your case in the market (of "ideas" or elsewhere), then you WILL be afforded credibility, because rightist credibility is based on hard product (usually money but occassionally other things), while leftist credibility is based entirely on argumentativeness and "good feelings/wishes".
Roach-Busters
29-10-2004, 19:05
I also blame Spongebob Squarepants. Damn that bastard.

:sniper:
Lotringen
29-10-2004, 19:07
[
And as to civilian death as being a warcrime. Show me the court that can try us?

1. that america doesnt recognize and therefor ignores the war crimes tribunal doesnt mean it will stay like this forever
2. history remembers.
Seosavists
29-10-2004, 19:08
I also blame Spongebob Squarepants. Damn that bastard.

:sniper:
AHHH! :mp5:
CornixPes II
29-10-2004, 19:09
I blame spiderman. Without him, I'd be well in full control of Europe by now.

If your theory is correct, then the entire European population must consist of spidermen. I take it you're probably American... do you think us Euros would be stupid enough to let a couple of red necks charge into our continent with nothing but a couple of bandanas and a crate of beer, then claim victory for the US of A? No.
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 19:10
What would Chodolo like to see our press be..?

I don't know but I do know what I'd like you to be. Gone. You're duller than a ginsu knife used for cutting down oak trees.


Of course you would..! :D

(( Scratch a leftist,.. find a tyrant! ))

Like all leftists, you can not abide "DISSENT" and would have me dead if you could manage it.

And that's what I so love about the left. It is inherently self contradictory.

And our pal Dobbs proves it mightily..!

For all your (the left's) protestation about "dissent is American" (which I agree with by the way) they don't practice their self-proclaimed virtue here, or anywhere, or any other of their "principles".

And they don't because they are fascists all, interested only in having all the power for "their people".
CornixPes II
29-10-2004, 19:14
And our pal Dobbs proves it mightily..!

You're talking as if people are actually listening to you with interest in what you're saying.
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 19:15
[QUOTE=Dobbs Town #25]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakeokeo
[QUOTE=CaptainLegion #11]Quote:
blah blah blah.



So you don't want to play the game. Why are you still here?

Firstly, I didn't say "blah blah blah", and you are obviously scared of what I did say.

Secondly, I find it amusing (as I'm sure you don't) to try to balance out the "left/right" proclivities of these forums.

The left considers these forums their property (despite their problem with the concept of "property") much like the left considers the press to be their property.

And the left HATES non-PC folk like myself. Which makes me happy.

Regardless of the leftist protestations that "the right wants no dissent", the left is the most dissent averse set of people on this planet.

To dissent on the left will get you killed (literally or econo-socially).

To dissent on the right will get you laughed at, but if you can prove your case in the market (of "ideas" or elsewhere), then you WILL be afforded credibility, because rightist credibility is based on hard product (usually money but occassionally other things), while leftist credibility is based entirely on argumentativeness and "good feelings/wishes".

...and so and so forth. No, dude, you're just not getting it - you're boring. Like a carbon-tipped drill. Gods above, I think I'd have more fun in a dentist's waiting room. Evidently you have to forgo things like wit to be right-wing.

How the long winter nights must just fly at your house, eh, Iakeokeo?
Jabbaness
29-10-2004, 19:16
I blame myself.

Why?

For coming to these forums expecting intelligent threads.. :D
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 19:18
[QUOTE=Lotringen #33]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakeokeo
And as to civilian death as being a warcrime. Show me the court that can try us?

1. that america doesnt recognize and therefor ignores the war crimes tribunal doesnt mean it will stay like this forever
2. history remembers.

History has a very selective memory.

As history progresses in the coming years, the "civilian" deaths of Iraq will be seen as a minor wound suitable for some bactine and a band-aid.

Anyone can threaten anyone with "history remembers". It's bringing such threats into the concrete that is the trick.

If you feel strongly that making your "guilty party" pay now is important, make it happen.

The drama would be spectacular.
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 19:18
... I gues what's bugging me the most is how you've just managed to turn something that might've been kinda fun into yet another spewfest of how the rest of the world is against Iakeokeo and all the amazingly amusing things you have to yet to say.
Lunatic Goofballs
29-10-2004, 19:19
This is exactly the sort of Blame Game the chickens would have us play forever. Damn those chickens! :mad:
Sussudio
29-10-2004, 19:21
And those awful Boston Red Sox for ruining basbeall and not rightfully winning the World Series.

Baseball has been fucked for about 10 years now. I just get sick of everyone ripping on the Yankees and loving the Red Sox.

and I blame God for how bad baseball has gotten.
Seosavists
29-10-2004, 19:22
This is exactly the sort of Blame Game the chickens would have us play forever. Damn those chickens! :mad:
:o *throws a box of eggs on the floor* Take that you bastards!
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 19:23
[QUOTE=CornixPes II #37]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakeokeo
And our pal Dobbs proves it mightily..!

You're talking as if people are actually listening to you with interest in what you're saying.

Why would I..?

If you don't, then join the crowd of (mostly) leftist scum that has no use for my words.

If you do, then enjoy.

As I have absolutely no leverage over whether anyone at all has any interest in my words, it would be silly of me to worry about it.

I write because I like to. It makes me happy. That's my motivation.

If your motivation is to please others, then you are a sycophantic worm.

Oh,.. did I tell you I like to provoke, as well..!? :D
Lunatic Goofballs
29-10-2004, 19:24
:o *throws a box of eggs on the floor* Take that you bastards!

Good man. We must all do our part. *nod*
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 19:27
[QUOTE=Dobbs Town #38]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakeokeo
[QUOTE=Dobbs Town #25]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakeokeo
[QUOTE=CaptainLegion #11]Quote:
blah blah blah.



So you don't want to play the game. Why are you still here?

Firstly, I didn't say "blah blah blah", and you are obviously scared of what I did say.

Secondly, I find it amusing (as I'm sure you don't) to try to balance out the "left/right" proclivities of these forums.

The left considers these forums their property (despite their problem with the concept of "property") much like the left considers the press to be their property.

And the left HATES non-PC folk like myself. Which makes me happy.

Regardless of the leftist protestations that "the right wants no dissent", the left is the most dissent averse set of people on this planet.

To dissent on the left will get you killed (literally or econo-socially).

To dissent on the right will get you laughed at, but if you can prove your case in the market (of "ideas" or elsewhere), then you WILL be afforded credibility, because rightist credibility is based on hard product (usually money but occassionally other things), while leftist credibility is based entirely on argumentativeness and "good feelings/wishes".



...and so and so forth. No, dude, you're just not getting it - you're boring. Like a carbon-tipped drill. Gods above, I think I'd have more fun in a dentist's waiting room. Evidently you have to forgo things like wit to be right-wing.

How the long winter nights must just fly at your house, eh, Iakeokeo?

I'm boring to you. But like all leftists, YOU are the arbiter of all things. THe ultimate judge. The "god" that is not god.

And I don't care in the least what ANYONE has to say about, well, much of anything actually..! :)

I do what I do because I like to do it. That would be about as close the the "liberal" ideal as possible, wouldn't it..!?

Could it be I'm a liberal rightwing authoritarian zealot..!?

Perhaps,.. perhaps... :D
Stephistan
29-10-2004, 19:29
I find in these situations it's best to blame Myrth! :D
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 19:30
Can I somehow get a mod to shut this now incredibly lame thread down? I want it to end before my brain comes loose...
Lunatic Goofballs
29-10-2004, 19:31
Can I somehow get a mod to shut this now incredibly lame thread down? I want it to end before my brain comes loose...

There's something I haven't managed to do in weeks.

*looks at the empty spot on his brain collection shelf*
Chodolo
29-10-2004, 19:32
1)Walter Duranty's cover-up of Stalin's massacres in the 1930s-40s
This is going way back, but just from the time frame, I'm guessing it had something to do with the fact we were allied with the Soviets against a far greater threat: Germany. For instance, we kind of gloss over the Saudi's atrocious human rights record, because they are friendly (mostly) with us in the middle east. War (and politics) make strange bedfellows.
2)Herbert Matthews's articles on the Spanish Civil War
Again, I'm not very knowledgable, but I believe the Spanish Civil War occurred when fascist groups rebelled against the socialist-leaning government, and won?
3)The media's anti-Chiang, pro-Mao articles in the late 40s
I would need to see some proof of this. From what I understand, Chiang wasn't that great a leader either, I could be wrong.
4)The media's pro-Castro, anti-Batista articles of the late 50s (Herbert Matthews especially)
Again, I don't know the full history.
5)The media's pro-Lumumba articles in the early 60s
Lumumba was overthrown and executed by a military coup. This kind of thing seems to happen a lot. I'm not even sure where this stands on terms of liberal media bias.
6)The media's Vietnam War articles
If resistance to the Vietnam war is "liberal", than a hell of a lot of Americans were liberal during those times. And thus, the media was not biased, but just representing the views of America (unless you cling to the belief that it was only a vocal minority who opposed the Vietnam War).
7)The media's anti-Smith, anti-Somoza, anti-Shah, and anti-Pinochet articles in the 70s and 80s
Somoza embezzled money from international aid after an earthquake. I couldn't find much else on google, except that he was overthrown and assassinated, like most leaders. Regarding the Shah, the leaders around the middle east have always seemed to tend towards either corrupt mostly secualar monarchies/dictatorships or extremist theocratic oligarchies. In any case, supporting the ayatollah is hardly a liberal idea (if you are implying the media supported the ayatollah).
8)The media's endless praise of Nelson Mandela, Mikhail Gorbachev, etc.
What's wrong with either of these two men? Mandela worked to end apartheid in South Africa, and Gorby moved towards progress and working to end the cold war. Unless there is something about either of these two I don't know.


In any case, I'm much more interested in the supposed modern liberal media bias.
Friedmanville
29-10-2004, 19:33
I blame The Jews. I hear it's back in vogue.... :rolleyes:
Dobbs Town
29-10-2004, 19:33
Aargh.
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 19:34
... I gues what's bugging me the most is how you've just managed to turn something that might've been kinda fun into yet another spewfest of how the rest of the world is against Iakeokeo and all the amazingly amusing things you have to yet to say.

Heh he he he... because that's what conversation turns into.

And I do find this fun. :)

What I say is pretty predictable actually. And the whole world (as individual human beings, not as "party drones") is on my side and against YOURS (if you're a leftist), so I feel no personal persecution.

Just havin' some fun,... makin' some jabber,... passin' some time... :)
Genetrix
29-10-2004, 19:35
I do what I do because I like to do it. That would be about as close the the "liberal" ideal as possible, wouldn't it..!?


Uh... no.. that would be the conservative idea, you can do anything that doesn't infringe on others. The liberal, or social, idea is that we all work together for a common good. I cannot respect anyone who uses the phrase leftist scum seriously, as much as I cannot respect those who use conservative as an insult. But you probably don't care, because the only thing you seem to care about it yourself, typical stubborness and over self-confidence.
Lotringen
29-10-2004, 19:36
History has a very selective memory.
who knows this better than a german...
still, nothing has caused such a turmoil like the iraq war.

As history progresses in the coming years, the "civilian" deaths of Iraq will be seen as a minor wound suitable for some bactine and a band-aid. rofl! :rolleyes:

Anyone can threaten anyone with "history remembers". It's bringing such threats into the concrete that is the trick. not threats, its fact. patience and time would have been the best weapons against saddam, and its the best against america today. bush wont stay in power forever and when hes gone maybe the next president recognizes the WCT?

btw your a cute little troll
Friedmanville
29-10-2004, 19:36
Here's what I find hilarious.

Something goes wrong, the Americans blame someone else. Usually the French, the UN, communists, or an abstract noun.

But if someone else blames the Americans, suddenly it's "Hey, let's not dwell on the past, we've all made mistakes, let's not apportion blame but focus on getting out of the mess we're in."

Sorry guys, much as you'd like it, you can't have it both ways.

You can't blame everyone else for a whole load of stuff, then screw up and expect the people you've blamed previously to empty their wallets to help you out. Nope, you're either going to have to stop blaming and accusing everyone in sight, or accept a whole list of stuff you'd rather not dwell on, before the international community lifts a finger to help you.

Just the way it goes.


!!!TEN MEGATON YAWN!!!!
Lunatic Goofballs
29-10-2004, 19:38
Just havin' some fun,... makin' some jabber,... passin' some time... :)
All worthwhile activities. :)
Iakeokeo
29-10-2004, 19:38
This is exactly the sort of Blame Game the chickens would have us play forever. Damn those chickens! :mad:

And once again, THE GREAT L.G. shows his/her profound wisdom..!!

(( I'm serious this time. L.G. is the smartist, most humorous person EVER to grace these or any boards..! [unless L.G. is a leftist, of course] ))

Yes, the chickens are home to roost..!

..and we are forced to play their little them-and-egg blame game forever and ever.
Stephistan
29-10-2004, 19:38
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