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A lot of people I know insist on mixing their marijuana with cigarette tobacco when rolling numbers. They're surprised when I, a smoker of tobacco, start squawking.

I tell them time and time again they'll ruin the flavour, but they always insist anyway, saying how they have to 'stretch out' their stash. It's at this point that I usually try bringing out some of my own reserves to persuade them otherwise.

Now if they're rolling a hash joint, I find it a little easier to understand, you've got be an exceptional pro at rolling to assemble an all-hash joint, after all, but even then, you're better off using some funky green leaf instead.

What do you think about it? Does adding tobacco to the mix put the nix on a tasty number?

I think adding the mix to the body adds the nix to the future.

Oh come on now if I was looking for a neo-puritan hassle don't you think I could put together something that'd make someone get really, really snippy with me? Give me some credit!

stretches the stash. It also gets you sensitive to smaller doses.

Me, I like to mix it with cake batter, but that's just me.

Erm...not a smoker of either, but in my experience, the only thing worth smoking is a decent cigar.

A decent cigar and really good pipe tobaccos - where o where are the Surinam cigars and the fragrant Dutch and Danish pipesmokes I used to love?

The only comment I truly make to this thread is - DONT MIX IT.

Whatever yer weed, enjoy it as it is. You start compounding stuff you start blowing mind.

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It really does depend on the tobacco. No filter is often a problem (never use a filter with marijuanna, unless you know exactly what you are doing a filter will leach out most or all of the THC), and many cigarette smokers are used to the filter. You should not mix tobacco from a factory made cigarette with the joint either, the tobacoo is cut too fine and often too dry for a good hand rolled cigarette, rolling tobacco should be used. My personal prefernece was always for a turkish blend that goes by the name Yenidje(?spelling), but even the cheap stuff is acceptable. A cuation should be made that if the tobacco is too dry the cigarette will be harsh and irritating - a good cheap way of restoring moisture to dry tobacco is to put some apple peals in with the tobacco. The combination of marijuana and tobacco can produce excellent smoke, but some people always seem to find a way to ruin it.


****Or so I have read. I do not now, nor have I ever used illegal pharmacuticals, nor has anyone of my acquaintance to my knowledge ever used any illegal pharmacuticals. That's my story and I sticking with it.***

Tabacco lessens the effect of the THC in marijuana. I'm confused as why they'd ever mix the two. But whatever works to make your stash larger I guess...

Thank you, Squi. I usually filter my joints, using a spiral filter method that doesn't reduce the amount of THC being ingested...I'm assuming you're referring to the cotton baton/fibreglass filters used in most tailormade cigarettes. Yeah, there's certain brands who use cut fibreglass strands in their filters...Benson & Hedges (unless they've changed sometime in the last decade) leave you with a patch of serrated tongue-flesh that's just damned annoying, not to mention somewhat needlessly worrying - why the effin' hell would I want to ingest fibreglass for, after all...

Anyway, I recently had an autumnal 'harvesting' affair at my digs, and someone very thoughtfully provided me with a packet of perforated cardboard, ideally suited for use as spiralled filters. Came in a pack the same size as a standard pack of rollies. I was suitably impressed.

And ?Basenji, yeah I agree, I find adding to the mix weakens the buzz, not to mention adulterating the flavour.

Erm...not a smoker of either, but in my experience, the only thing worth smoking is a decent cigar.


Glory!

A fine cigar is truly one of life's great pleasures.

Because a pure joint is a plain too much. Mixing will decrease the dose and will add to the relaxation factor.

PS Filters? I hope you mean tips?

Why not, instead of spending the money on tobacco, they put it towards more weed? That would make the stash last longer.

Eh, I put rolling tobacco into the mix simply because it lasts longer that way, and you don't feel compelled to rush the joint around (especially useful if you have 2- 3 people).

Also for some reason with joints the weed taste is too strong on my throat, so adding tobacco helps. I however for some reason like the taste of weed through a pipe... go figure :|

Why not, instead of spending the money on tobacco, they put it towards more weed? That would make the stash last longer.

Now there's proactive thinking for you. Good one Sdaeriji!

It really does depend on the tobacco. No filter is often a problem (never use a filter with marijuanna, unless you know exactly what you are doing a filter will leach out most or all of the THC), and many cigarette smokers are used to the filter. You should not mix tobacco from a factory made cigarette with the joint either, the tobacoo is cut too fine and often too dry for a good hand rolled cigarette, rolling tobacco should be used. My personal prefernece was always for a turkish blend that goes by the name Yenidje(?spelling), but even the cheap stuff is acceptable. A cuation should be made that if the tobacco is too dry the cigarette will be harsh and irritating - a good cheap way of restoring moisture to dry tobacco is to put some apple peals in with the tobacco. The combination of marijuana and tobacco can produce excellent smoke, but some people always seem to find a way to ruin it.


****Or so I have read. I do not now, nor have I ever used illegal pharmacuticals, nor has anyone of my acquaintance to my knowledge ever used any illegal pharmacuticals. That's my story and I sticking with it.***

I agree on the factory made ciggies, but I don't smoke those anyway. I'm so tight with money that my arse whistles when I fart...anyway...

Yeah, don't use a filter. You can use bible paper and an envelope, but don't use a filter. You'll get nothing from it. Apple peels, potato skin, orange peel, whatever floats your boat.

**steals disclaimer**

Now there's proactive thinking for you. Good one Sdaeriji!
Pity tobacco costs so much less eh? i can buy 10 dollars of tobacco, and it will last for ounces and ounces of weed...

Pity tobacco costs so much less eh? i can buy 10 dollars of tobacco, and it will last for ounces and ounces of weed...

What was it that Freewheelin' Franklin used to say? "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope"? Yeah, that was it. Sorta the same thing with tobacco, though...

What was it that Freewheelin' Franklin used to say? "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope"? Yeah, that was it. Sorta the same thing with tobacco, though...

Heh, only thing is I need money for dope... and I never have money, so I scrounge $10 (AUD) and buy a bag of rolling tobacco, and that lasts me a good while using it for both weed and cigarettes.

Pity tobacco costs so much less eh? i can buy 10 dollars of tobacco, and it will last for ounces and ounces of weed...

Yeah, but the only reason weed is so much more expensive is because it's illegal. If it were legalized, I imagine it would cost just about as much as tobacco does.

Yeah, but the only reason weed is so much more expensive is because it's illegal. If it were legalized, I imagine it would cost just about as much as tobacco does.
It doesn't

Weed is a lot more costly in energy and labour to grow

It doesn't

Weed is a lot more costly in energy and labour to growMostly because of the techniques necessitated by the illegality. The fertilizer savings would be extreme in favor marijuana as a legal crop. Harvesting would likely remain pretty much labour intensive for a while. But machine seperation would make marijuana harvesting (for the heavier buds) less labour intensive than tobacco harvesting (still hand work, for the broad leaves) in short order. Your marijuana crops are also more disease and pest resistant than tobacco, which is rather fragile plant, so less labour there. I don't know if anyone has figured the yield from commercial marijuana production so I cannot make a comparison of land use, but marijuana can be grown on marginal land not suitable for tobacco.

Mostly because of the techniques necessitated by the illegality. The fertilizer savings would be extreme in favor marijuana as a legal crop. Harvesting would likely remain pretty much labour intensive for a while. But machine seperation would make marijuana harvesting (for the heavier buds) less labour intensive than tobacco harvesting (still hand work, for the broad leaves) in short order. Your marijuana crops are also more disease and pest resistant than tobacco, which is rather fragile plant, so less labour there. I don't know if anyone has figured the yield from commercial marijuana production so I cannot make a comparison of land use, but marijuana can be grown on marginal land not suitable for tobacco.
Yes, but in a crop one has to be very weary of male plants. They can ruin your whole crop

Yes, but in a crop one has to be very weay of male plants. They can ruin your whole crop

Counting down till some woman says "Not unlike humans, then" :D

5, 4, 3...

Counting down till some woman says "Not unlike humans, then" :D

5, 4, 3...
Damn pesky feminists

Yes, but in a crop one has to be very weary of male plants. They can ruin your whole cropIf legal I assume you'll use female seedlings (think tomato plants). No more labour than with tobacco which also uses seedlings. Possibly it may be more economical to sow directly and take the hit in production. But since tobacco uses seedlings I assume no significant difference in planting cost.

Marijuana legalisation isn't gonna happen in my country (Australia) for a long time, so mixing tobacco with weed i shall continue :( .

Why not, instead of spending the money on tobacco, they put it towards more weed? That would make the stash last longer.

because in the uk where cigarettes are about 25p (USD 0.45) each, if you spent the price of a whole pack of cigarettes on weed (usd 9.00) you'd get enough weed for one small all-grass reefer. Or in the old days when I smoked weed you did. It was about 5 quid / 9 bucks a gram. obviously dropping with volume but an ounce (28 ish grams) was still 150 quid / 270 bucks.

And making an all-hash reefer isn't difficult, it's impossible. Though you can smoke hash neat in a bong, bucket, lung, pin or hotknife. Still a reefer is nice.

Well, you should all do what my friends and i do, which is to...um....er......

nope, i forgot. oh well

*produces customised bongs and an ounce*

good shit