Procrastination
I'm supposed to be writing part of my paper for english class right now and I keep posting. It's geting frustrating! I need this done so I can go to sleep! aargh! :headbang:
Meriadoc
29-10-2004, 05:28
That made me think of something amusing (IMO) from last semester @ the University of Wyoming, where I am going to college.
I was in one of my classes, somebody was giving a speech on procrastination. For her clincher, she said that procrastination is like masturbation: "at first, it feels really good, but in the end, you're just screwing yourself." Her exact words.
Igwanarno
29-10-2004, 05:30
That made me think of something amusing (IMO) from last semester @ the University of Wyoming, where I am going to college.
I was in one of my classes, somebody was giving a speech on procrastination. For her clincher, she said that procrastination is like masturbation: "at first, it feels really good, but in the end, you're just screwing yourself." Her exact words.
I hope she was marked down for plagiarism.
See how common the saying is. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22procrastination+is+like+masturbation%22&btnG=Search)
I hope she was marked down for plagiarism.
See how common the saying is. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22procrastination+is+like+masturbation%22&btnG=Search)
Kind of hard to give credit for a phrase that was authored by an unknown person.
La Terra di Liberta
29-10-2004, 05:37
I continue to procrastinate going to the bathroom, although an english paper is more dire.
Igwanarno
29-10-2004, 05:43
Kind of hard to give credit for a phrase that was authored by an unknown person.
But still immoral to claim it as one's own words.
If I started a thread proclaiming that I had just invented the ingenious phrase "He who laughs last laughs best," I would be flamed mercilessly.
But still immoral to claim it as one's own words.
If I started a thread proclaiming that I had just invented the ingenious phrase "He who laughs last laughs best," I would be flamed mercilessly.
True, but there's no evidence that seems to support the notion that the student in question claimed it to be her own words. Had I heard that phrase, I would've known it had been said by someone else, and many people in her audience probably knew this as well. If someone asks her if she made it up, and she claims that she did, though, then she should definitely be marked down for plagiarism, but if she admits to having heard it somewhere else then there's nothing immoral about using it.
Guisante y Brecol
29-10-2004, 05:59
What a coincidence. I too am procrastinating. I have to write an essay for my application to the teacher preparation program at WSU about "Why I chose teaching as a profession? Please include a description of your experience working with diverse populations" 2 pages, and I really do not feel like spouting out a bunch of hollow BS just to please the committee, even though I know I have to. I have to have it done tomorrow by 4...sometimes I despise college...
Hahaha, I'm doing the exact same thing.
I have a 2000 word one due for one of my classes...1400 words to go. It needs to be in by 5PM, and its currently 3PM...to get there I have to catch a train in about 40 minutes...
Ahh, fuck it. *Emails lecturer and asks for extension until monday*
Big Jim P
29-10-2004, 06:02
Well I should be sleeping, but that will wait until I'm dead. :p
Igwanarno
29-10-2004, 06:08
True, but there's no evidence that seems to support the notion that the student in question claimed it to be her own words. Had I heard that phrase, I would've known it had been said by someone else, and many people in her audience probably knew this as well. If someone asks her if she made it up, and she claims that she did, though, then she should definitely be marked down for plagiarism, but if she admits to having heard it somewhere else then there's nothing immoral about using it.
It depends on context and delivery, but if the quote was not identified as not her own that is tantamount to claiming it is her own. For instance, it is legal for a student to copy several paragraphs (or even pages) of text from a book and then directly add these quotations to his or her own paper. However if these quotations were not clearly identified as to his or her source, then the student would be guilty of plagiarism.
As another example, that paragraph above is plagiarism. I took it almost verbatim from the Wikipedia entry on plagiarism, and didn't identify it. I didn't explicitly claim it as my own, but the implication was that it was.
Guisante y Brecol
29-10-2004, 06:23
If that quote had been used in a written work without indicating that it was not the author's own words that might be considered plagiarism, depending on how strict your interpretation of plagiarism is. In the context of a speech, however, it would be difficult to cite a source without interrupting the flow of your oration. Also, it is important to note that after enough common use a phrase becomes a cliche' rather than an original idea that requires a citation when used. For example, "knowledge is power" was originally said by Francis Bacon, but it has developed into such a common phrase that you wouldn't necessarily need to cite it, especially in a public speaking context.