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violence in video games

Backwatertin
29-10-2004, 02:00
this thread is about violence in video games
aag i know ur gonna hate me for this but for the sake of ponit of view
violence in video games is getting way out of hand

(on a personal note i completely disagree with this statement i love video games the way they are)
Kerubia
29-10-2004, 02:01
I think violence in video games is a great thing.
Backwatertin
29-10-2004, 02:02
well at least i got a hit
Kerubia
29-10-2004, 02:06
I don't think it's really much of a problem. Sure, it can act as a catalyst to mentally troubled youth, but it's a catalyst, not the sole cause.
New Foxxinnia
29-10-2004, 02:06
Video game violence is a great stress reliever.
Backwatertin
29-10-2004, 02:08
i agree that is all they are is stress relievers
if ive had a hard day i would just like to sit down beat the crap out of sumthing
The Black Forrest
29-10-2004, 02:08
I have no issues with it. Even as a parent.
Chodolo
29-10-2004, 02:09
I don't think it's really much of a problem. Sure, it can act as a catalyst to mentally troubled youth, but it's a catalyst, not the sole cause.
More often than not, mentally troubled youth are drawn to these games. Doesn't make them more violent, it's just a sign that they have problems. Like when people torture animals, torturing animals doesnt make them go on to shoot up their school. It's just an indicator.

So to every study that says video games make people violent...it's far more likely that naturally violent people just enjoy these games more.


And with that...violence in video games is excellent catharsis.
Catholic Germany
29-10-2004, 02:10
When I am stressed and/or mad, I need to shoot shit. I think its best it occurs in a virtual world instead of a real one.
Insane Bounty Hunters
29-10-2004, 02:11
It's better to kill a person in a virtual world and feel relieved then kill a real person.
Bozzy
29-10-2004, 02:11
I think there is not enough skin in video games. Why teach our young citizens how to make 'headshots' when we could teach them simply how to give 'head'?

(sarcasm intended)
Backwatertin
29-10-2004, 02:12
if parents let their kids go out and buy these m rated games they are not very good parents

ok that didnt come out right
ok parents with kids younger than like 7 should not let their kids go out and play like gta san andreas
because thats like not .......good

ok that didnt come out right either
so im gonna just shut up
Braks People
29-10-2004, 02:14
It's pretty dumb to blaime video games for our violence... it seems to be a scapegoat to our society of sex, drugs, and violence.

:headbang:
Kerubia
29-10-2004, 02:17
It's pretty dumb to blaime video games for our violence... it seems to be a scapegoat to our society of sex, drugs, and violence.

:headbang:

This reminds me of the "South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut" movie. Particularly, the song "Blame Canada".

"...We must prevent and cause a fuss before somebody thinks of blaming US!"

By the way, the town's parents were singing that song for those of you who haven't seen that movie.
Backwatertin
29-10-2004, 02:19
south park is a brainless tv show with no real morals.........but thts ok
Kumi
29-10-2004, 02:39
actually kids wouldn't buy it if you didn't make a big deal out of it. people saying "o this game is bad don't let kids have it" it's like me putting a button that says DO NOT PUSH in a school hallway it would be pushed trust me i've done it...
Backwatertin
29-10-2004, 02:44
thts creepy
Letila
29-10-2004, 02:48
I play violent videogames and I haven't gone on any killing sprees. I haven't even wanted to.
Goed
29-10-2004, 03:19
While I think in some cases they purposefully add too much violence just for shock value (manhunt, anyone?), I think that generally video games are just that-they're games. If a game is too violent, I won't buy it because I think it's stupid to add lots of violence for no reason. Likewise, I won't buy a game with no violence because...well, I once played one of those bible games. Hitting your head with a rock is more entertaining then that.
Galliam
29-10-2004, 03:28
Violence? People have problems with violence?? I am one of the most violent people ever and I haven't seriously hurt anybody unless it was an accident.

Video Games are good for America. They teach us the quickest ways to disable terrorists. It's a ultra military training tool! First one to a million frags wins one conscription!
HadesRulesMuch
29-10-2004, 03:52
Bah, another "who gives a shit" thread. In 20 years, all the people that hate violent video games will be dead. So it don't matter.
Tyrelia
29-10-2004, 04:04
As a sometimes gamer and full time mother, I can honestly say that video game violence isn't horrible. What it boils down to is what people are buying for their kids or allowing them to play. I have a 5 year old boy who like video games. Since he can only play what his grandparents and I buy for him he's not going to be playing games that are rated T or M. Duh! I guess what I'm trying to say is that people really need to show some common sense. Common sense isn't so common anymore, and that's just sad. Ok. I think I'm starting to ramble so I'll close this. okbye!
Backwatertin
29-10-2004, 20:41
Bah, another "who gives a shit" thread. In 20 years, all the people that hate violent video games will be dead. So it don't matter.

i love you
Chodolo
29-10-2004, 20:43
south park is a brainless tv show with no real morals.........but thts ok
*ahem*, suck my balls.

South Park is life...
Superpower07
29-10-2004, 20:46
I don't think violence in video games has gone nuts just yet.

But even if it does, I still as a Libertarian have to let it be because I am ardently anti-censorship, no matter how much I hate the content of something.
Orders of Crusaders
29-10-2004, 20:48
Family Guy is better!!!! Vote Griffin/Quagmire!!!

Heh, but anyway, game violence is no big deal, as said before somewhere around this thread, if a video game's violence is the "cause" of a guy's shooting spree or something, that guy had some serious issues before he played the game....
Kramers Intern
29-10-2004, 20:49
I said yes but I still love em!
Dementate
29-10-2004, 20:51
I think there is not enough skin in video games. Why teach our young citizens how to make 'headshots' when we could teach them simply how to give 'head'?

(sarcasm intended)

I know a friend who bought one video game that has topless girls (yes, real girls). I don't remember the name of it, think it was a party game for Xbox.
Chodolo
29-10-2004, 20:52
Family Guy is better!!!! Vote Griffin/Quagmire!!!
It is hard for me to choose. Family Guy and South Park are quite literally brilliant each in their own ways. I just can't decide. :(

Heh, but anyway, game violence is no big deal, as said before somewhere around this thread, if a video game's violence is the "cause" of a guy's shooting spree or something, that guy had some serious issues before he played the game....
Exactly. Violent people are just drawn more to violent video games...doesn't make them any more violent...in fact it might even help them let of some steam, like those squishy balloons.
Darsylonian Theocrats
29-10-2004, 21:02
Exactly. Violent people are just drawn more to violent video games...doesn't make them any more violent...in fact it might even help them let of some steam, like those squishy balloons.

I have, ever since I started attempting to follow politics or "big business" practice.. and, hell, since driving in rush hour, become a much more violent person. My taste in video games hasn't really changed much over the years. In fact, the biggest shift I've noticed in my own habits is that I prefer to play team-based games. CounterStrike (woo!) gave way to BF1942 for a while, I'm taking a break for Eve ATM, but when I need chaos in a pinch, I load up some Halo-based CTF. I like the support "like-minded" people(my team) brings, regardless of sniper or "hey, go run over that guy!" brings.


I begin to wonder if the most vocal opposition is coming from the same kinds of people who complain about sex on television. "The only people who complain about too much sex on TV are the ones not getting any." - Perhaps these gaming critics don't have a quality anger outlet to latch onto.

I am also fairly confident that my first public act of violence will occur when someone legislates the removal of my 'safe outlet' for these urges.
Greedy Pig
29-10-2004, 21:18
Whose the Bastard farkers who voted 'Yes' that games are gettting to voilent?

Show yourselfs! That I may zap you with my BIG FREAKING GUN!

Whoooaoaaa Frags!! FRAGS!! MUAHAHAHA

:D

Violent Video games are great. But their never meant for small kids to play.
Sussudio
29-10-2004, 21:19
I don't believe that video games really cause a lot of violence. But I do believe they have a desensitizing factor that needs to be addressed.

That is one factor with the amount of violence in the US, as we have become so desensitized to violence, that we as a whole have lost track of the reality of the consequences.

Look at the ease with which people abide the death of 10000 civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, the small amount of worry we about the murder rate in America.

But I love Mortal Kombat:Deception

edit: How about that unintentional smily face, kind of ironic considering the game.
Backwatertin
29-10-2004, 21:27
the reason kids shoot other kids is because there crazy ok? nuff said?
Darsylonian Theocrats
29-10-2004, 21:38
the reason kids shoot other kids is because there crazy ok? nuff said? I think calling the crazy may be a bit much. Definitely under a lot of pressure, though. A great deal of them have been the victims of incessant ridicule, and that kind of behaviour is often reinforced (or instilled entirely) by their home life. That schools really don't do anything to cut back on it doesn't help. Hell, I had teachers in school that did the same thing to students. Sooner or later, it may well become too much for someone to bear, and everyone just wants to point fingers so they don't have to accept responsibility.

Am I saying my sadist gym teacher made me join the army to become a sniper so I could "remove" people? No. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying he was yet another drop in the bucket. He revelled in picking on the smaller guy, the weaker guy. That's right, Coach, insult and degrade them to make them better people! WOO!

:sniper: After being told for years, especially by authority figures, just how useless and worthless their lives are.. do you honestly expect them to value someone elses worth a damn?

Note: Not absolving them of guilt: they pull the trigger/swing the bat/thrust the knife, they are guilty, period. There are many contributing factors that must be considered by the public at large, though. Treat the cause, not the symptom.
Sodium Hydroxia
29-10-2004, 21:41
Through experience with both, I can safely say that video games do not teach kids how to operate firearms. In fact, the crippling carpal tunnel syndrome they will inevitable develop will prevent their successful operation of an automatic rifle.

:D
Sblargh
29-10-2004, 21:47
south park is a brainless tv show with no real morals.........but thts ok

That´s soooo wrong.
South Park is one of those work of arts that it can be either brainless entertainment or a really intelligent critic to society, it really depens on how you see it.
Sblargh
29-10-2004, 21:50
There is a test some (sorry my bad english, I don´t know what is the english word for a freud kind of guy) guy here in brazil did with young people playing counter-strike at a lan house.
He simply asked if anyone had the nerve to kill a chicken and noone did it, and, as he stated, kill chickens is something mankind do since the dawn of times, it´s the most normal act of "murder" someone can do and yet, none of those "terrorists" could do it.
Sblargh
29-10-2004, 21:55
I think calling the crazy may be a bit much. Definitely under a lot of pressure, though. A great deal of them have been the victims of incessant ridicule, and that kind of behaviour is often reinforced (or instilled entirely) by their home life. That schools really don't do anything to cut back on it doesn't help. Hell, I had teachers in school that did the same thing to students. Sooner or later, it may well become too much for someone to bear, and everyone just wants to point fingers so they don't have to accept responsibility.

Am I saying my sadist gym teacher made me join the army to become a sniper so I could "remove" people? No. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying he was yet another drop in the bucket. He revelled in picking on the smaller guy, the weaker guy. That's right, Coach, insult and degrade them to make them better people! WOO!

:sniper: After being told for years, especially by authority figures, just how useless and worthless their lives are.. do you honestly expect them to value someone elses worth a damn?

Note: Not absolving them of guilt: they pull the trigger/swing the bat/thrust the knife, they are guilty, period. There are many contributing factors that must be considered by the public at large, though. Treat the cause, not the symptom.

I don´t know if you are american, but that really isn´t just your coach, the entire american culture is based on killing the weak, the word "loser" has a REALLY big effect on americans, you won´t see that around the world, of course, noone likes to lose anywhere on the world, but, for example, losing your job, don´t affect people like it does in america or japan.
Sodium Hydroxia
29-10-2004, 22:04
There is a test some (sorry my bad english, I don´t know what is the english word for a freud kind of guy) guy here in brazil did with young people playing counter-strike at a lan house.
He simply asked if anyone had the nerve to kill a chicken and noone did it, and, as he stated, kill chickens is something mankind do since the dawn of times, it´s the most normal act of "murder" someone can do and yet, none of those "terrorists" could do it.

You mean a psychologist.

I'd kill a chicken, right here right now.

Bare hands? Sure.

Knife? Sure.

Gun? :D Damn straight.
Th Great Otaku
30-10-2004, 03:12
I don't believe the violence is getting out of hand at all. As long as there are ratings on video games, it really shouldn't be a problem.
Kahta
30-10-2004, 03:15
No, kids that play violent games need to mature first.
Clontopia
30-10-2004, 03:19
south park is a brainless tv show with no real morals.........but thts ok

But it is funny as hell!!!
Clontopia
30-10-2004, 03:21
That´s soooo wrong.
South Park is one of those work of arts that it can be either brainless entertainment or a really intelligent critic to society, it really depens on how you see it.


And if you are smart enough to see it! :)
Marxlan
30-10-2004, 03:22
So much violence... whatever happened to Mario? Mario kicked ass.
Clontopia
30-10-2004, 03:23
this thread is about violence in video games
aag i know ur gonna hate me for this but for the sake of ponit of view
violence in video games is getting way out of hand

(on a personal note i completely disagree with this statement i love video games the way they are)

I think people that do not like the level of violence in vieo games should not buy them.
If no one buys them they will stop making them.
I however like violent games, But I do not play them when my kid is around (4 year old).
I will not buy a violent game for my kid, but i will buy one for me. :D
Khockist
30-10-2004, 11:30
Yeah, violence in video games has adversily effected me. I mean after playing super mario, I jumped on some guy's head to watch a coin pop out of him. Violence in video games doesn't encourage violence in real life. If someone is going to go postal, they will. The problem with violent video games is that they teach the people who go postal better tactics. But I don't think they should be banned because a few kids have violent tendencies. I think that the rating of the game should be applied more heavily. Incedentally there is a game called Postal which just pokes fun at the whole violence in video games thing. Play it, maybe you'll learn to laugh at the issue.
Irigrium
30-10-2004, 11:38
Any Australians might like to check out http://aag.nichers.net in relation to this issue.
Gurnee
30-10-2004, 21:00
No. Nobody's putting a gun to anyone else's head and forcing them to buy a video game.
Guitar Muzic
30-10-2004, 23:27
I am one of those people who voted yes. (backs away) now I know like everyone else that has posted so far has said "no"......

I love vidio games. It's like one of the funnest things to do. I have ROTK for the x-box and I LOVE it. (gotta be the best game)

But I hate that I can't go buy a fun game that doesn't involve a lot of violence. That bugs me and that's why I voted yes. I hate that my little brother and I can't play ROTK together because it's rated teen.

One time I played a game (don't remember what it was called) and it was a roller skating game. Every time you fell down tons of blood would squirt everywhere. I honestly didn't think the game needed that. Sure, if I were to fall down on roller skates, I would bleed. But I didn't think the game needed that.

Anyway, that's just what I think, and I know most of you aren't going to agree with me. (everyone is entitled to their own oppinion, and as someone already stated, eventually all of us who think this will be dead. I'm kinda young, but eventually I'll die.)
Backwatertin
30-10-2004, 23:56
So much violence... whatever happened to Mario? Mario kicked ass.

OMG you are my hero
Hes right why dont we bring back mario........but wait isnt he the first real popular video game character to start this whole chain of violence
i mean seriously tht game would be a lot more gorier if they added a smidgen of blood whenever you killed sumthin
Backwatertin
31-10-2004, 00:11
God i love this thread :D :D :D