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I haven't posted here for a very long time. But I am angry now, so here we go.

The history channel has been airing documentaries that are about George Bush/election issues. Too bad Americans are too busy watching sitcoms. Last night there was one explaining Bush’s strong tie to the Religious right. Right now there is one on about the 2000 election, and how things got screwed up.
My IDS professor was telling us how Americans care so little about the elections, in 2000 there was about a 55% turnout (not that Canada is any better, mind you), and how they are so adverse to change. When someone is so opposed to change, it is a sign of a neurosis, which, according to my prof, means you need serious help. The American population needs help. He should know, he’s a psychologist. And a former American.

It all makes me sick. Honestly, if Bush wins again, I will cry, just out of frustration. What makes the Americans SO STUPID is that they just do not care. They are so lazy that they don't care to turn off Fox News and CNN and find a real news source. Just because George Bush SAYS that all those explosives they were supposed to be guarding were actually gone before they got there, it CLEARLY must be true. Look into this shit yourselves, you lazy a**holes.

Another thing: how can you let your states screw you over so much? They had FOUR YEARS to improve voting practices, and there are already problems. 58 000 mail out ballots have gone missing have gone missing. 58 000. Just in Florida. Source. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3960679.stm)

How big must Bush's ego be? HONESTLY!!! He's the only President to have such a terrible reaction to him during his inaugural walk (or whatever it is called) to the White House. He had to hide in his car to avoid being pelted with eggs and abused by the people he is supposed to represent.

Maybe I do understand why the Americans do nothing. Maybe they are so frustrated, like me, that they have just given up, and are sitting in a stunned silence, frozen by fear at what is to come next. Maybe there is just no point. I think Kerry is also a bit of a turd, but he's better. Hopefully he will not be a wuss like Al Gore, and actually fight for his position when it comes down to the wire again. I think that might be why they chose such a douche-bag; at least he is aggressive and will fight. Choose Frankenstein over the monkey.

Stay the hell out of our elections, you dumb canuck. You support Kerry? Good. Maybe if he loses, he can move up there and plow YOUR country into the gutter.

You're not an American, so stay out of it. I'm glad the 45% of Americans that don't care aren't voting. The ones that care enough to veote are at least making a somewhat informed decision. Of course America has its problems. So does Canada. At least we can get treatment here when we need it and not have to depend on the government (like they give a crap about anyone but themselves). Does anyone else realize the terrorists want Kerry to win???? They've said so themselves! They think Kerry will not go after them. There's my somewhat abbreviated election rant.

Stay the hell out of our elections, you dumb canuck. You support Kerry? Good. Maybe if he loses, he can move up there and plow YOUR country into the gutter.

I wish I could claim authorship of that statement. :)

Dude. You're from Canada. Why do you care? And more importantly, why do you think Americans care about what you think? I don't give a shit who is running for the PM of Canada. Do you know why? It is not because I'm arrogant, stupid or lazy. It's because I don't live there. I know it's tough with no hockey this year. But, I'm sure you Canadians have better things to do than rant about our elections. So chill out, crack open a Molson, do whatever you Canadians do to have fun.

I haven't posted here for a very long time. But I am angry now, so here we go.

The history channel has been airing documentaries that are about George Bush/election issues. Too bad Americans are too busy watching sitcoms. Last night there was one explaining Bush’s strong tie to the Religious right. Right now there is one on about the 2000 election, and how things got screwed up.
My IDS professor was telling us how Americans care so little about the elections, in 2000 there was about a 55% turnout (not that Canada is any better, mind you), and how they are so adverse to change. When someone is so opposed to change, it is a sign of a neurosis, which, according to my prof, means you need serious help. The American population needs help. He should know, he’s a psychologist. And a former American.

It all makes me sick. Honestly, if Bush wins again, I will cry, just out of frustration. What makes the Americans SO STUPID is that they just do not care. They are so lazy that they don't care to turn off Fox News and CNN and find a real news source. Just because George Bush SAYS that all those explosives they were supposed to be guarding were actually gone before they got there, it CLEARLY must be true. Look into this shit yourselves, you lazy a**holes.

Another thing: how can you let your states screw you over so much? They had FOUR YEARS to improve voting practices, and there are already problems. 58 000 mail out ballots have gone missing have gone missing. 58 000. Just in Florida. Source. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3960679.stm)

How big must Bush's ego be? HONESTLY!!! He's the only President to have such a terrible reaction to him during his inaugural walk (or whatever it is called) to the White House. He had to hide in his car to avoid being pelted with eggs and abused by the people he is supposed to represent.

Maybe I do understand why the Americans do nothing. Maybe they are so frustrated, like me, that they have just given up, and are sitting in a stunned silence, frozen by fear at what is to come next. Maybe there is just no point. I think Kerry is also a bit of a turd, but he's better. Hopefully he will not be a wuss like Al Gore, and actually fight for his position when it comes down to the wire again. I think that might be why they chose such a douche-bag; at least he is aggressive and will fight. Choose Frankenstein over the monkey.


I'm an American and I support this statement 100%. Stop hating on this guy simply because he is Canandian and happens to care. I think whomever we vote in to office on November 2nd will have a hand in changing the world, so stop badgering this guy who perhaps shows more motivation to uncover truth than many do around here.

I care, beause whether i like it or not, the US affects the entire world. Unlike a lot of Americans, I care about the big picture, not just my own country. John Kerry wouldn't even good for Canada, his views on economics are very pretectionist, but it's the worl in general that I care about. I am a global citizen, like you all.

I don't understand why most of you don't care that republicans do everything they can to make sure certain people don't vote. That is sick and twisted. I do not understand how Bush can go on like he does. Why won't he sign on to the ICC? Probably because he is scared of being tried as a war criminal.

I'm an American and I support this statement 100%. Stop hating on this guy simply because he is Canandian and happens to care. I think whomever we vote in to office on November 2nd will have a hand in changing the world, so stop badgering this guy who perhaps shows more motivation to uncover truth than many do around here.
What he said.

I'm an American and I support this statement 100%. Stop hating on this guy simply because he is Canandian and happens to care. I think whomever we vote in to office on November 2nd will have a hand in changing the world, so stop badgering this guy who perhaps shows more motivation to uncover truth than many do around here.
I thought you were German?

I thought you were German?

Nope. Born and bred in California.

Stay the hell out of our elections, you dumb canuck. You support Kerry? Good. Maybe if he loses, he can move up there and plow YOUR country into the gutter.

You idiot. The Canuck, as you call him, is merely attempting to point out the situation. Kerry is overwhelmingly favored among the majority of our allies. Not only should we choose a leader who is honest and who can fix the damn economy, but we should also consider whether he CAN WORK WITH OTHER NATIONS!

Bush supporters seem to forget that there is a wider, more complex world beyond their noses.

I would also remind you that under Clinton, we prospered and were respected around the world for our efforts to bring about peace. Cooperation clearly works better than unilateralism.

Thank you very much.

You idiot. The Canuck, as you call him, is merely attempting to point out the situation. Kerry is overwhelmingly favored among the majority of our allies. Not only should we choose a leader who is honest and who can fix the damn economy, but we should also consider whether he CAN WORK WITH OTHER NATIONS!

Bush supporters seem to forget that there is a wider, more complex world beyond their noses.

Who the hell cares about what our "allies" think? If they like Kerry so much, the can drag him over there and make him leader of there crappy socialist governments. Americans' first concern is and should be for America. Screw the rest of the world. All of you non-Americans out there would want your governments to defend you, right? That's also what Americans want for themselves. We can see things a lot more clearly and with a better perspective than people overseas can, so mind your own damn business.

The "source" is the BBC.

That is a biased source, not an impartial news service. Please support your statements with more that info from partisan hacks.

Screw the rest of the world.

This is a rather alarming sentiment; would you like it to become mutual?

On an official tone... no flaming. All of you. Got it?

I wish I could claim authorship of that statement. :)

Yeah, I would be proud if I made that statement too. Oh, no, wait, I wouldn't.

You're not an American, so stay out of it. I'm glad the 45% of Americans that don't care aren't voting. The ones that care enough to veote are at least making a somewhat informed decision. Of course America has its problems. So does Canada. At least we can get treatment here when we need it and not have to depend on the government (like they give a crap about anyone but themselves). Does anyone else realize the terrorists want Kerry to win???? They've said so themselves! They think Kerry will not go after them. There's my somewhat abbreviated election rant.
Terrorists want Kerry to win? News to me, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's true, and here's why -- Kerry may actually try to address the root of the problem, rather than just blow up everything in sight. Terrorism is spawned by injustice. Just because we don't agree with the fact that people are terrorists, doesn't mean they don't have legitimate grievances against us.

[QUOTE=Ifracombe]I haven't posted here for a very long time. But I am angry now,

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My IDS professor was telling us how Americans care so little about the elections,

, according to my prof, means you need serious help.
He should know, he’s a psychologist.
And a former American.

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Dude, You need to learn the difference between teaching and indoctrination.

[QUOTE=Ifracombe]I haven't posted here for a very long time. But I am angry now,

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My IDS professor was telling us how Americans care so little about the elections,

, according to my prof, means you need serious help.
He should know, he’s a psychologist.
And a former American.

[QUOTE]

Dude, You need to learn the difference between teaching and indoctrination.


It was a class discussion. And since when has the BBC been an unreliable news source? Many people look towards it for interesting and informed reports that you can not get elsewhere. Just because it's from another country does not mean it is unreliable.

Stay the hell out of our elections, you dumb canuck. You support Kerry? Good. Maybe if he loses, he can move up there and plow YOUR country into the gutter.

Pierre Trudeau already did that

Hey hey, I'm from canada too! Ontari ari ari o to be precise. I didn't read this whole post so if youv discussed this alread forgive me. In canada there are 5 parties, the
Liberal part (currently the government),
Conservative party ( her magestys offical opposition),
Bloc (a party that wants to seperate one of canadas provinces),
NDP ( a party that gets just a little less votes than the conservatives and a great deal more than the bloc, but wins very few seats because of the first past the vote system),
The green party ( a party that has no representation in the legislature.)

In canada people might feel free to skip voteing in an election because Left win voters make up about 75% of the population, so for the time being Canada has a defacto liberal government.

Why canadains might be interested in american politics is becasue americans only have 2 parties and they are co incidentaly right and left. To be honest we are such a liberal nation thats your democrats are the equivalent to our conservatives.

All in all most of canadas televison is imported from the united states, so like most reality television shows people feel like their becomeing involved with the show, when in reality it has very little to no bearing on the viewer.

Thats just a little about canada, sorry if you think i made no sense in this post, i think i did, well.....maybe...yeah......well if you have a problem with this post than your the problem not me! HA!

Terrorists want Kerry to win? News to me, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's true, and here's why -- Kerry may actually try to address the root of the problem, rather than just blow up everything in sight. Terrorism is spawned by injustice. Just because we don't agree with the fact that people are terrorists, doesn't mean they don't have legitimate grievances against us.

They've already explained their grievances--they perceive America to be a Christian nation and they hate the fact that we support Israel. You can't talk to terrorists. They hate us...plain and simple. We've tried talking to them before, and guess what...it didn't work. Terrorists already blew up the WTC twice, U.S. embassies around the world, U.S. missionaries abroad, and U.S. military interests. They've been doing it for years. What makes you think John Kerry will come in and make it all better? Will he kiss the Middle East, put a giant band-aid on it, and things will suddenly be wonderful? Bush has made more progress in the last 4 years than Clinton made in 8.

Not to be rude or anything, but it appears that the pentagon had been saying that the US army had already destroyed 200 tons of explosive from the site. Opps. Maybe the media should have checked that angle out before they published.

http://ebird.afis.osd.mil/cgi-bin/ebird/displaydata.pl?Requested=/ebfiles/e20041029333153.html

Not to be rude or anything, but it appears that the pentagon had been saying that the US army had already destroyed 200 tons of explosive from the site. Opps. Maybe the media should have checked that angle out before they published.

http://ebird.afis.osd.mil/cgi-bin/ebird/displaydata.pl?Requested=/ebfiles/e20041029333153.html

I'm tired of American mainstream media... It's so obvious that they have a big bias against conservatives and Bush.

Try FOX News Network... they tend to balance out the other stations.

All in all, I shudder to think what Gore would have done during 9/11.

Don't underestimate Bush. He seems stupid because he surrounds himself with intelligent people.

In this day and age we as a nation and a global comunity are blessed with great methods of comunication. The orignal intent of the president was to make on the spot decisions because convining the reps form the 13 colonies was not the easyest thing to do. Now I can talk with a guy in Japan in real time and 100 other people from around the world all while listining to I tunes. Do we realy need a president? couldent we despand the posisition into a small group of people like say 5 of what we curently call presidents to than vote on all decisions needed to be made in a hurry? I mean Bush has a HORRIBLE idea on foreign policy and is gona start WWIII if we keep going like into korea or continue the in the middle east. On the other hand Kerry's plans to turn around the economy are good but if he dosent time the enacment of each correctly we will all be in the red, More than we are already. But if the two of them voted along with some other people they might be able to balance people out. We should do this plan or take ALOT if power away from the president.

The "source" is the BBC.

That is a biased source, not an impartial news service. Please support your statements with more that info from partisan hacks.

Oh please, the BBC would rip Fox to shreds any day ;)

They happen to produce high quality journalism and attempt to show both sides (at least to what I have read), does having other opinions broadcast scare you? What outright lies or misleading comments have you read from a BBC journalist?

Remember, the BBC would have its charter revoked should it favour any particular viewpoint.

Try FOX News Network... they tend to balance out the other stations.
Yes, Fox balances the BBC the way having an enema at the same time as eating a chocolate cake would balance each other out.

All in all, I shudder to think what Gore would have done during 9/11.
Don't underestimate Bush. He seems stupid because he surrounds himself with intelligent people
Yes scary to think about, isn't it? Most likely Gore would have gone after Osama with full support of the UN and the international support of the World in general (as what happened anyway) and kept the troops there until they had found and captured Osama. NOT leave half-way through to attack a country not involved in the 9/11 attacks based on completely false reasoning.
So right now, we'd be faced with Osama in jail (or dead), not popping up on out TV screens warning of more attacks, and Saddam would still be in power, impotent, with a fucked-up economy and NO WMDs. And be no threat.
Ohh....scary. :rolleyes:

And we should vote for a moron, because the others aroud him are intelligent? That's a pretty lame excuse. It's implying, if not outrght stating, that we should vote for a puppet. Is that really what you want to say?

Saddam would still be in power, impotent, with a fucked-up economy and NO WMDs. And be no threat.
Ohh....scary. :rolleyes:

The mass graves would still be filling, women would continue to be raped in front of their husbands, children would still be imprisoned for the beliefs of their parents, people would still have their brains blown out and hands chopped off for no reason, they would still be shoved off high buildings for fun, they would still disappear in the middle of the night never to be seen again, people would still be put through plastic shredders...yeah, life would be great.

And we should vote for a moron

A moron who flew fighter jets, went to Yale and holds an MBA from Harvard.

Hey hey, I'm from canada too! Ontari ari ari o to be precise. I didn't read this whole post so if youv discussed this alread forgive me. In canada there are 5 parties, the
Liberal part (currently the government),
Conservative party ( her magestys offical opposition),
Bloc (a party that wants to seperate one of canadas provinces),
NDP ( a party that gets just a little less votes than the conservatives and a great deal more than the bloc, but wins very few seats because of the first past the vote system),
The green party ( a party that has no representation in the legislature.)

In canada people might feel free to skip voteing in an election because Left win voters make up about 75% of the population, so for the time being Canada has a defacto liberal government.

Why canadains might be interested in american politics is becasue americans only have 2 parties and they are co incidentaly right and left. To be honest we are such a liberal nation thats your democrats are the equivalent to our conservatives.

All in all most of canadas televison is imported from the united states, so like most reality television shows people feel like their becomeing involved with the show, when in reality it has very little to no bearing on the viewer.

Thats just a little about canada, sorry if you think i made no sense in this post, i think i did, well.....maybe...yeah......well if you have a problem with this post than your the problem not me! HA!

YEAH lets hear it for the Green party
WOOT GO NADER

I keep hearing that the terrorists all support Kerry, but no one mentions that Iran has indorsed BUSH. :eek: :eek: Say What!!!!! Thats right the third country in the bloody Axis of Bloody evil supports BUSH, not Kerry. I wonder why that is when they are all so blatently terrified of him. :rolleyes: More likely it is due to the fact that they recognize the chance that Kerry might adress the root causes that allow them to get recruits therefore striping them of their power base.