Fatwa on Michael Moore
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 22:26
The author of Stupid White Men, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
So have at him faithful adherents of Islam.
Random Explosions
26-10-2004, 22:28
The author of Stupid White Men, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
So have at him faithful adherents of Islam.
Faithful adherents of Islam would know better than to murder someone for having a different opinion. You ought to know better than this.
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 22:30
Faithful adherents of Islam would know better than to murder someone for having a different opinion. You ought to know better than this.
so the whole salman rushdie thing was just a joke ?
Forum Primus
26-10-2004, 22:31
Ummm.... Something like this should be shut down by the mods, yes?
Unless it is just a tasteless joke....
Random Explosions
26-10-2004, 22:41
so the whole salman rushdie thing was just a joke ?
Regrettably, no. But no true Muslim is hunting him down.
Snowboarding Maniacs
26-10-2004, 22:42
so the whole salman rushdie thing was just a joke ?
What "thing" was that?
Random Explosions
26-10-2004, 22:43
What "thing" was that?
The Fatwa placed on him.
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 22:47
Shut rushdie up for a while though.
Hopefully this new fatwa will do the same thing to fatty.
BTW many, many muslims in the UK believed it was their duty to kill rushdie. But I guess they are all fake be your standards. Someone should let them know that they are not "real" muslims. I would do it myself, but I'm otherwise occupied.
Snowboarding Maniacs
26-10-2004, 22:49
I'm sorry, but I'm not as familiar with the Muslim religion as everyone else on here seems to be. Who is/was Rushdie? And what Exactly is a Fatwa? Like a contract on someone's life, a jihad against a single person sort of?
Random Explosions
26-10-2004, 22:51
Shut rushdie up for a while though.
Hopefully this new fatwa will do the same thing to fatty.
BTW many, many muslims in the UK believed it was their duty to kill rushdie. But I guess they are all fake be your standards. Someone should let them know that they are not "real" muslims. I would do it myself, but I'm otherwise occupied.
Oh, yes. Let's murder everyone who disagrees with us and claim God told us to.
The Crusaders who marched through Jerusalem and put its population to the sword weren't real Christians. Why should blind followers of faithless leaders not be called the same?
Friedmanville
26-10-2004, 22:51
The author of Stupid White Men, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
So have at him faithful adherents of Islam.
Hillarious
Friedmanville
26-10-2004, 22:54
I'm sorry, but I'm not as familiar with the Muslim religion as everyone else on here seems to be. Who is/was Rushdie? And what Exactly is a Fatwa? Like a contract on someone's life, a jihad against a single person sort of?
A Fatwah is an Islamic edict.
Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwah against Rushdie after he wrote a book called "The Satanic Verses", which the Ayatollah considered blasphemous.
MunkeBrain
26-10-2004, 22:55
The author of Stupid White Men, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
So have at him faithful adherents of Islam.
You know, you could just sic all the hungry people he pretneds to care about on him. He could feed a nation.
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 22:56
Oh, yes. Let's murder everyone who disagrees with us and claim God told us to.
The Crusaders who marched through Jerusalem and put its population to the sword weren't real Christians. Why should blind followers of faithless leaders not be called the same?
Did I mention christians? No. Stop bringing them up.
This thread is to announce fatwa on that tub of lard Moore, not rehash ancient history. I'm sick of Moore's lying blather and I want him silenced, this seems an ideal way to do it.
Random Explosions
26-10-2004, 22:57
You know, you could just sic all the hungry people he pretneds to care about on him. He could feed a nation.
You know, that's not really a bad idea. We fry up Coulter and Moore, feed 'em to the hungry, and let someone with at least a shred of honesty take over.
The Gaza Strip
26-10-2004, 23:00
The author of Stupid White Men, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
So have at him faithful adherents of Islam.
Do you have any real authority to order something like that? Who died and put YOU in charge of Islam?
Random Explosions
26-10-2004, 23:01
Did I mention christians? No. Stop bringing them up.
This thread is to announce fatwa on that tub of lard Moore, not rehash ancient history. I'm sick of Moore's lying blather and I want him silenced, this seems an ideal way to do it.
No, you didn't mention them, and no, I won't stop mentioning them if I find it to be an effective comparison.
But hell, it's lying that you're sick of? You claimed it was because he'd insulted your beliefs, that's one thing, but if it's lies you're on about about, that's a different matter. But Moore's not really a good target. You ought to take out Bush first; at least Moore's not killing innocent people.
Snowboarding Maniacs
26-10-2004, 23:03
You know, that's not really a bad idea. We fry up Coulter and Moore, feed 'em to the hungry, and let someone with at least a shred of honesty take over.
Coulter's like anorexic though...not much meat on her bones.
A Fatwah is an Islamic edict.
Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwah against Rushdie after he wrote a book called "The Satanic Verses", which the Ayatollah considered blasphemous.
Wasn't Ayatollah Khomeini....um....psycho?
Oh yeah, and I thought Islam was supposed to be a religion of peace. Just a thought there.
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 23:06
Do you have any real authority to order something like that? Who died and put YOU in charge of Islam?
As I have learned from debating muslims in this forum there is no official heirarchy in Islam, which is why there is never really any "official" condemnation of Islamic terrorism.
So this morning I converted to islam and appointed myself in charge of my own mosque. I am also now convinced that I am descended from Muhammed. So yes, I absolutely have the authority to issue a fatwa regarding that fat blob.
BTW, I've been watching Fox News while I'm typing: and he's still not gone into hiding. Pull your finger out fellow Islamisists. :mp5:
Snowboarding Maniacs
26-10-2004, 23:08
As I have learned from debating muslims in this forum there is no official heirarchy in Islam, which is why there is never really any "official" condemnation of Islamic terrorism.
So this morning I converted to islam and appointed myself in charge of my own mosque. I am also now convinced that I am descended from Muhammed. So yes, I absolutely have the authority to issue a fatwa regarding that fat blob.
BTW, I've been watching Fox News while I'm typing: and he's still not gone into hiding. Pull your finger out fellow Islamisists. :mp5:
LOL
MunkeBrain
26-10-2004, 23:08
As I have learned from debating muslims in this forum there is no official heirarchy in Islam, which is why there is never really any "official" condemnation of Islamic terrorism.
So this morning I converted to islam and appointed myself in charge of my own mosque. I am also now convinced that I am descended from Muhammed. So yes, I absolutely have the authority to issue a fatwa regarding that fat blob.
BTW, I've been watching Fox News while I'm typing: and he's still not gone into hiding. Pull your finger out fellow Islamisists. :mp5:
We'll get him yet. :D
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 23:11
No, you didn't mention them, and no, I won't stop mentioning them if I find it to be an effective comparison.
But hell, it's lying that you're sick of? You claimed it was because he'd insulted your beliefs, that's one thing, but if it's lies you're on about about, that's a different matter. But Moore's not really a good target. You ought to take out Bush first; at least Moore's not killing innocent people.
As a muslim, I condemn your irrational hatred of fellow people of the book, the Christians. The way you keep on bringing up something that happened 800 years ago makes me think you harbor racial animus towards them. So sad.
Moore is an obnoxious lard tub, whose book Stupid White Men is an offence to Islam, he must therefore die. He is also a lying tub of camel feces which I am also sick of, but that's not the reason for the fatwa. The fatwa is all about his blasphemy.
Daajenai
26-10-2004, 23:23
Would someone care to elaborate upon what exactly is blasphemous in his book, for those of us who have never bothered to read it? I suppose it must be fairly serious; if all blesphemy were punishable by death, the majority of the world would be long gone by now.
The Atheist Clergy
26-10-2004, 23:26
That whole rushdie thing pissed me off. It upset my mindset. I always did, and still do, operate under the assumption thet Christians are the least tolerant of all the religious people. This assumption has been proved right over and over and over and over again by my parents, friends, and teacher, but when khomeni denounced rushdie my thought was "NO!!! I like Iran and now you have to go and try and kill one of the most brilliant modern authors. You bastards!!!."
If they really have declared a fatwah against moore, haven't paid attention, it won't shut him up like it did rushdie. Rushdie got tons of free publicity. Moore will just kinda sit out there and wait for them to see sense like he has for his past twenty political and social opponents.
And all you fatwah declaring people need to take a chill pill. Stop being douchebags. Don't take your religion to extremes, otherwise the US might gain some legitimacy in its war on the arab world.
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 23:28
Would someone care to elaborate upon what exactly is blasphemous in his book, for those of us who have never bothered to read it? I suppose it must be fairly serious; if all blesphemy were punishable by death, the majority of the world would be long gone by now.
If I tell you what's blasphemous in his book, then I will be repeating his blasphemy and become a blasphemer myself. Then I would have to declare a fatwa on myself.
I don't want to do that, so you'll just have to take my word for it. It's very blasphemous indeed. But we don't have time to sit here debating the niceties of his "book", the fatwa clearly says he must die, and there is not a moment to waste.
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 23:30
And all you fatwah declaring people need to take a chill pill. Stop being douchebags. Don't take your religion to extremes, otherwise the US might gain some legitimacy in its war on the arab world.
You're straying dangerously close to fatwa territory yourself my friend.
Snowboarding Maniacs
26-10-2004, 23:30
If I tell you what's blasphemous in his book, then I will be repeating his blasphemy and become a blasphemer myself. Then I would have to declare a fatwa on myself.
I don't want to do that, so you'll just have to take my word for it. It's very blasphemous indeed. But we don't have time to sit here debating the niceties of his "book", the fatwa clearly says he must die, and there is not a moment to waste.
oh boy... :rolleyes:
Snowboarding Maniacs
26-10-2004, 23:31
You're straying dangerously close to fatwa territory yourself my friend.
oohhh!! oohhh!!! declare a fatwa on me! declare one on me!! please?? :) :) :)
Lacadaemon
26-10-2004, 23:35
oohhh!! oohhh!!! declare a fatwa on me! declare one on me!! please?? :) :) :)
certainly, but you'll have to blaspheme against Islam first, otherwise it wouldn't be a real fatwa.
Battery Charger
26-10-2004, 23:59
I wish I could have a Fatwa on me. I'd wear that as a badge of honor. However, I would never insult muslims, their faith, or the murdering pedophile rapist that started it all.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 00:03
I wish I could have a Fatwa on me. I'd wear that as a badge of honor. However, I would never insult muslims, their faith, or the murdering pedophile rapist that started it all.
Blasphemy.
The author of the above post, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
HadesRulesMuch
27-10-2004, 00:05
You ought to take out Bush first; at least Moore's not killing innocent people.
Right, because everyone saw that article on the news where Bush shot the baby in its head, right? No? Well, maybe he didn't kill anyone after all...
However, everyone has listened to Moore lie outright.
So perhaps a firsthand witnessing of what Michael Moore has done counts more than what a bunch of *unbiased* liberals assume Bush has done.
HadesRulesMuch
27-10-2004, 00:09
certainly, but you'll have to blaspheme against Islam first, otherwise it wouldn't be a real fatwa.
You know, here in the South, we have a special way of dealing with fanatical Muslim maniacs. Of course, we'll have to start cutting the lengths of rope now so we'll have enough when they arrive.
By the way, Islam is a cheap imitation of a real religion like Shintoism or Christianity, or even the Greek Pantheon. Declare Fatwah! I'll keel you all! With my 12-gauge! And I doubt your scimitars will be enough to get you near me...
^ The above post is meant entirely in jest, except for the part where I make fun of Islam and threaten to kill anyone who comes after me.
Random Explosions
27-10-2004, 00:10
Right, because everyone saw that article on the news where Bush shot the baby in its head, right? No? Well, maybe he didn't kill anyone after all...
However, everyone has listened to Moore lie outright.
So perhaps a firsthand witnessing of what Michael Moore has done counts more than what a bunch of *unbiased* liberals assume Bush has done.
Don't be silly; no one's unbiased. But Bush HAS sent soldiers out to die (and kill) in Iraq over pretenses he knew were false. You don't have to pull a trigger to kill someone.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 00:15
You know, here in the South, we have a special way of dealing with fanatical Muslim maniacs. Of course, we'll have to start cutting the lengths of rope now so we'll have enough when they arrive.
By the way, Islam is a cheap imitation of a real religion like Shintoism or Christianity, or even the Greek Pantheon. Declare Fatwah! I'll keel you all! With my 12-gauge! And I doubt your scimitars will be enough to get you near me...
Also Blasphemy.
The author of the above post, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
Wow, three fatwa's in one day, this is harder than I thought.
World wide allies
27-10-2004, 00:18
You know, thats not being very nice.
Why are you declaring "Fatwa" on random people, do you really expect the muslim population to rise up against these "blasphemers" (sp?) ?
What satisfaction are you getting from this ?
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 00:23
You know, thats not being very nice.
Why are you declaring "Fatwa" on random people, do you really expect the muslim population to rise up against these "blasphemers" (sp?) ?
What satisfaction are you getting from this ?
I am not declaring fatwa on "random" people. I am declaring it on blasphemers. And yes, I do expect muslims to rise up against these blasphemers, just like they did with Salam Rushdie.
Also I get the satisfaction of having defended my faith.
World wide allies
27-10-2004, 00:25
You see the things wrong with this.
A - Rushdie wrote some book, a little more "serious" than a single post.
B - The muslim population arn't just gonna say "Screw it, he said bad. Lets kill him" and get themselves sent to jail.
C - Come on, Jesus christ. Are you like an 12 year old who is finding this funny ?
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 00:30
You see the things wrong with this.
No I don't.
A - Rushdie wrote some book, a little more "serious" than a single post.
What he wrote was blasphemy and got Fatwa'd. Those others were likewise Fatwa'd for blasphemy. (Although admittedly they seemed to want to be fatwa'd in the first place.)
B - The muslim population arn't just gonna say "Screw it, he said bad. Lets kill him" and get themselves sent to jail.
The faithful ones will.
C - Come on, Jesus christ. Are you like an 12 year old who is finding this funny ?
Are you questioning my faith? That's not very nice, I didn't question yours. :(
World wide allies
27-10-2004, 00:31
Your telling me, that someone will track down, and murder HadesRulesMuch etc.
Don't you agree thats amazingly far-fetched.
and i am not questioning your faith, i just think its a bitch harsh for sentencing people to death, no-offence, but what right do you have to do that ?
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 00:35
Your telling me, that someone will track down, and murder HadesRulesMuch etc.
Don't you agree thats amazingly far-fetched.
and i am not questioning your faith, i just think its a bitch harsh for sentencing people to death, no-offence, but what right do you have to do that ?
I do not pretend to know the future. That would be blasphemy. All I do is issue the Fatwa as per the will of Allah.
And as for my right to do this, I explained it clearly earlier on in this thread.
2 points one in response to feeding the poor with moore...that has a real nicce ring..a chant we could all enorse...
FEED THE POOR WITH MOORE
FEED THE POOR WITH MOORE
also i am ready to Fatwa ..could you please send instructions on exactly what i should chant while removing his head from that tender beefy body...thanx
i am a bit new to this whole fatwa thingamajig..
thanx again
World wide allies
27-10-2004, 00:40
I thought Islam represented peace ?, it seems the opposite if any believer of Islam can just go round sentencing people to death.
Come on, i mean its a bit harsh to sentence people to death, just for a single post. It's a bit serious, for something that they were just doing to screw with you.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 00:42
2 points one in response to feeding the poor with moore...that has a real nicce ring..a chant we could all enorse...
FEED THE POOR WITH MOORE
FEED THE POOR WITH MOORE
also i am ready to Fatwa ..could you please send instructions on exactly what i should chant while removing his head from that tender beefy body...thanx
i am a bit new to this whole fatwa thingamajig..
thanx again
There is no need to chant anything when carrying out the sentence. Also you may use any method you wish, although beheading is preferred. Thank you for your interest in this project.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 00:44
I thought Islam represented peace ?, it seems the opposite if any believer of Islam can just go round sentencing people to death.
Come on, i mean its a bit harsh to sentence people to death, just for a single post. It's a bit serious, for something that they were just doing to screw with you.
It's not about me. It's about the blasphemy. When you insult and blaspheme against Islam, the sentence is death. Really, it's all quite beyond my control.
CanuckHeaven
27-10-2004, 00:44
The author of Stupid White Men, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
So have at him faithful adherents of Islam.
Since you want to use religion, you should remember that Jesus died on the cross to save your sorry ass. I imagine if you pray for forgiveness in this death wish against Moore you may be saved? :eek:
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 00:47
Since you want to use religion, you should remember that Jesus died on the cross to save your sorry ass. I imagine if you pray for forgiveness in this death wish against Moore you may be saved? :eek:
Are you anti-Islam or something? I hear there is a lot of that on these boards.
World wide allies
27-10-2004, 00:51
If its beyond your control, then why does Allah wan't you to do the Fatwa .. ing ?
Surly he would do it himself, if it was out of regular people's control ?
World wide allies
27-10-2004, 00:52
It's not about me. It's about the blasphemy. When you insult and blaspheme against Islam, the sentence is death. Really, it's all quite beyond my control.
Are you sure the death sentence applies to the modern world ?
I'm really not so sure.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 01:03
If its beyond your control, then why does Allah wan't you to do the Fatwa .. ing ?
Surly he would do it himself, if it was out of regular people's control ?
I simply said that I cannot see the future, and pretending to would be blasphemy. Of course what the rest of the world does is beyond my control, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't do everything in my power to bring that fat blob to justice. Hence the Fatwa'ing. Allah wants that because Micheal Moore is a blasphemer.
Are you sure the death sentence applies to the modern world ?
I'm really not so sure.
LOL, you are silly!
I hope you are joking. All good islamic nations have beheading facilities.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 01:22
Are you anti-Islam or something? I hear there is a lot of that on these boards.I think a lot of us here are anti-murder and anti-the-mindset-you-seem-to-advocate.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 01:24
I think a lot of us here are anti-murder and anti-the-mindset-you-seem-to-advocate.
I am anti-murder too. What makes you think I am not? Islam is the religion of peace.
What mindset?
There is no need to chant anything when carrying out the sentence. Also you may use any method you wish, although beheading is preferred. Thank you for your interest in this project.
thanx...i also prefer beheading as it does little damage to the flesh..which when harvested will provide a hearty meal
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 01:30
I am anti-murder too. What makes you think I am not? Islam is the religion of peace.
What mindset?
Why the heck are you on about? Advocating the hunting down and murder of Michael Moore is peaceful? Go read a dictionary and give me a break.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 01:32
Why the heck are you on about? Advocating the hunting down and murder of Michael Moore is peaceful? Go read a dictionary and give me a break.
Not murder; punishment of michael moore, silly!
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 01:35
Not murder; punishment of michael moore, silly!
Oh, I misread that? You don't want to kill him? As in
mur·der (mûrdr)
n.
1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
Why the heck are you on about? Advocating the hunting down and murder of Michael Moore is peaceful? Go read a dictionary and give me a break.
maybe then, instead of humanitarian aid we regularly send to islamic nations , we should send dictionaries. perhaps the extremists dont yet know that beheading in the name of allah is really murder...hell we could probably stop all terrorists activity in Iraq with a few well placed dictionaries
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 01:37
maybe then, instead of humanitarian aid we regularly send to islamic nations , we should send dictionaries. perhaps the extremists dont yet know that beheading in the name of allah is really murder...hell we could probably stop all terrorists activity in Iraq with a few well placed dictionariesWho would make the extremists read the dictoinaries, though? I'm sure they have better things to do with their time than look at something produced in the western world.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 01:38
Oh, I misread that? You don't want to kill him? As in
Yes but the killing is lawful, as per the fatwa. So it isn't murder. It's a fitting punishment for his blasphemy. Just like Salman Rushdie. You see?
Who would make the extremists read the dictoinaries, though? I'm sure they have better things to do with their time than look at something produced in the western world.
maybe we could label them something like allahs dictionary as transcribed by the mighty prophet muhammed..or maybe laser-guided dictionaries we could shoot down chimneys of insurgent safe-houses..
Battery Charger
27-10-2004, 01:41
Blasphemy.
The author of the above post, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
:D Sweet! :D
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 01:41
Who would make the extremists read the dictoinaries, though? I'm sure they have better things to do with their time than look at something produced in the western world.
Dictionaries are blasphemous. Those who write them, and those who read them, are moving dagerously close to Fatwa territory.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 01:51
Yes but the killing is lawful, as per the fatwa. So it isn't murder. It's a fitting punishment for his blasphemy. Just like Salman Rushdie. You see?It is not lawful under any possible law Michael Moore could ever be subject to.
District 268
27-10-2004, 01:52
As a muslim, I condemn your irrational hatred of fellow people of the book, the Christians. The way you keep on bringing up something that happened 800 years ago makes me think you harbor racial animus towards them. So sad.
Moore is an obnoxious lard tub, whose book Stupid White Men is an offence to Islam, he must therefore die. He is also a lying tub of camel feces which I am also sick of, but that's not the reason for the fatwa. The fatwa is all about his blasphemy.
Christians are of many races and not just one. We are all children of God, and must agree to get along.
While I do not like Michael Moore, and think that he is a big fat obnoixous lying manipulative muck raking biased antipatriot communist racist antireligous festering bag of gas, I would not call for his death. I would rather he choke on his own words, and recognize the mistakes he has made so he can improve himself. ;)
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 01:52
Dictionaries are blasphemous. Those who write them, and those who read them, are moving dagerously close to Fatwa territory.
I bet posting on these liberal-leaning, British-hosted forums is pretty blasphemous too. Should we all kill ourselves at Allah's direction now?
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 01:55
big fat obnoixous lying manipulative muck raking biased antipatriot communist racist antireligous festering bag of gasI'm obnoxious, anti-patriot, and anti-religious. What can you think of me, then?
And poor Moore, he's just trying to make a difference... get his message out for people to listen to and make them start thinking, whether it be thinking about how they agree with him or disagree...
It is not lawful under any possible law Michael Moore could ever be subject to.
now aren't you just being intolerant of the muslim religion...if you wanna remain p.c. you cant object to the culture of the fatwa as punishment
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 01:59
now aren't you just being intolerant of the muslim religion...if you wanna remain p.c. you cant object to the culture of the fatwa as punishmentWatch me.
Killing. Is. Wrong.
:p
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:06
Watch me.
Killing. Is. Wrong.
:p
All killing? I hardly think so.
And BTW Michael Moore is subject to Allah's law. Everyone is.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:07
I bet posting on these liberal-leaning, British-hosted forums is pretty blasphemous too. Should we all kill ourselves at Allah's direction now?
I'm spreading the word of Muhammed.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 02:08
That's where we disagree then, because I don't believe there's any justification for taking another human being's life.
Not if Allah doesn't exist, which is most likely the case.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 02:08
I'm spreading the word of Muhammed.
Congrats. Not Allah's word now? Just a man's?
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:11
That's where we disagree then, because I don't believe there's any justification for taking another human being's life.
Not if Allah doesn't exist, which is most likely the case.
Even is self defense?
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 02:12
Even is self defense?
Yes. If everyone believed killing was wrong and stuck by that, there wouldn't be any reason to go kill in self-defense.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:15
Yes. If everyone believed killing was wrong and stuck by that, there wouldn't be any reason to go kill in self-defense.
But they don't, do they?
Anyway stop dodging. Do you believe that killing in self defense is wrong?
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 02:16
But they don't, do they?
Anyway stop dodging. Do you believe that killing in self defense is wrong?
As I said in my last post :p Yes, I do. Just because a particular state doesn't exist, doesn't mean we can't strive for it.
And BTW Michael Moore is subject to Allah's law. Everyone is.
That's no different from Bush saying you're subject to Christ's law.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:18
As I said in my last post :p Yes, I do. Just because a particular state doesn't exist, doesn't mean we can't strive for it.
As you said in your last post, you believe that if everyone believed killing is wrong then there would be no need for self defense.
I am to take it then that you believe self defense is wrong?
Cannot think of a name
27-10-2004, 02:18
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/images/smiles/icon_troll.gif
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:20
That's no different from Bush saying you're subject to Christ's law.
Yes, but he would be wrong. And if he said that he'd be looking at a Fatwa - just like that fat blob of lard Moore.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:21
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/images/smiles/icon_troll.gif
That's hardly constructive. Please try to say on topic.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 02:21
I am to take it then that you believe self defense is wrong?When did "killing in self-defense" change to plain "self-defense"?
Yes, but he would be wrong.Kind of like how we think you're wrong, then.
i don't think your wrong at all..POWER TO THE FATWA PEOPLES
You know, you could just sic all the hungry people he pretneds to care about on him. He could feed a nation.
rofl
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:27
When did "killing in self-defense" change to plain "self-defense"?
Well that's what I meant. Do you unequivocally believe that killing in self defense is wrong.
Kind of like how we think you're wrong, then.
Yes, but I am right. That's the difference.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:28
i don't think your wrong at all..POWER TO THE FATWA PEOPLES
Thank you for your support. Unfortunately I just looked at Moore's web sight and he still hasn't gone into hiding yet. Hopefully soon though.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 02:28
Yes, but I am right. That's the difference.No you aren't. You can't just stand there and proclaim that you are right without any justification to back your claim up and expect anyone to take you seriously.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 02:30
I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delayAnd since when did the authority to declare this kind of thing rest in your hands? Should it not be left to the religious leaders (assuming it should be done at all)?
Mephistophelese
27-10-2004, 02:31
The Devil will recite scripture for his purpose!
Christian bigots, Muslim bigots, and Jewish bigots unite!
Together we could make life not worth living!
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:34
No you aren't. You can't just stand there and proclaim that you are right without any justification to back your claim up and expect anyone to take you seriously.
Why not? I have Muhammed to back me up. And my Fatwa is in perfect accord with the actions of the ayatollahs.
And since when did the authority to declare this kind of thing rest in your hands? Should it not be left to the religious leaders (assuming it should be done at all)?
I explained that earlier in the thread. I'm not going through it again.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:36
The Devil will recite scripture for his purpose!
Christian bigots, Muslim bigots, and Jewish bigots unite!
Together we could make life not worth living!
Are you looking for a fatwa? I've got plenty more where Moore's came from.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 02:46
Why not? I have Muhammed to back me up. And my Fatwa is in perfect accord with the actions of the ayatollahs.
I explained that earlier in the thread. I'm not going through it again.
Sorry for not wanting to read 7 pages of your propaganda.
Ooooh, Muhammed. Excuse me while I fall to my knees and worship some old guy who lived centries ago. It must be right, if he says it. :rolleyes:
Thank you for your support. Unfortunately I just looked at Moore's web sight and he still hasn't gone into hiding yet. Hopefully soon though.
have you contacted his press people to let them know of this fatwa?
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:51
Sorry for not wanting to read 7 pages of your propaganda.
Ooooh, Muhammed. Excuse me while I fall to my knees and worship some old guy who lived centries ago. It must be right, if he says it. :rolleyes:
That is a very disrespectful thing to say about the Prophet (PBUH). Are you some kind of racist or something?
You shouldn't make fun of people just because their culture and beliefs are not the same as yours it is a very ignorant thing to do. For shame. :(
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:52
have you contacted his press people to let them know of this fatwa?
Yes I emailed him the Fatwa. He hasn't responded though. Hopefully he will go into hiding soon.
What about the Freedom of Speech,what about De-mo-cra-cy for christsakes? :confused:
Gauthier
27-10-2004, 02:54
"Fatwa here, fatwa there, fatwa everywhere. Old McDonald had a fatwa..."
Calling Lacadaemon a Muslim is like saying Paris Hilton has a film career.
And it wouldn't surprise me if his Arabic vocabulary besides "fatwa" consisted of "Durka-Durka" and "Jihad."
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:56
Calling Lacadaemon a Muslim is like saying Paris Hilton has a film career.
And it wouldn't surprise me if his Arabic vocabulary besides "fatwa" consisted of "Durka-Durka" and "Jihad."
You forgot Burqua. I know that one too.
:rolleyes:
And who are you to say I am not a Muslim? Anyone can be a Muslim. You don't need someone's permission you know. If you bothered to study Islam you would know that.
The author of Stupid White Men, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
So have at him faithful adherents of Islam.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. *points and laughs at the funny "Muslim" man*
:( Damn, why do I never get a Fatwah called against me?!
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:57
What about the Freedom of Speech,what about De-mo-cra-cy for christsakes? :confused:
Thank you for your support. We all look forward to that fatty being silenced.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 02:59
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. *points and laughs at the funny "Muslim" man*
:( Damn, why do I never get a Fatwah called against me?!
Just blaspheme, and I will so oblige. I've been handing them out all day, they are a very popular item.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 03:01
That is a very disrespectful thing to say about the Prophet (PBUH). Are you some kind of racist or something?
You shouldn't make fun of people just because their culture and beliefs are not the same as yours it is a very ignorant thing to do. For shame. :(
Race has nothing to do with religion.
I'm not making fun of you for being of a different culture. I'm making fun of you for advocating violence and murder while trying to claim to be part of a peaceful religion.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 03:03
Race has nothing to do with religion.
I'm not making fun of you for being of a different culture. I'm making fun of you for advocating violence and murder while trying to claim to be part of a peaceful religion.
Read the Fatwa. It's not murder. As anyone will tell you Islam = Peace.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 03:05
Read the Fatwa. It's not murder. As anyone will tell you Islam = Peace.
Stop splitting hairs on semantics. It's murder, and not at all peaceful.
Peace through killing everyone who doesn't agree with you is self-defeating.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 03:09
Stop splitting hairs on semantics. It's murder, and not at all peaceful.
Peace through killing everyone who doesn't agree with you is self-defeating.
Well I;m sorry that you are so narrow minded that you cannot accept another culture's definitions. But I am not "splitting hairs." The Fatwa is lawful. Moore must be punished for his blasphemy, just like Salman Rushdie.
Are you looking for a fatwa? I've got plenty more where Moore's came from.
I want a Fatwah!
Gauthier
27-10-2004, 03:12
Oh please, anyone with a half a brain cell alive can tell you're deliberately spreading stereotypical and insulting images of Islam and Muslim with this Fatwa crap.
Anyone here can eat 3 BLTs and a baked ham and still be more Muslim than you.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 03:13
I want a Fatwah!
You have to blaspheme first. You can't get one without blasphemy. :)
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 03:13
Well I;m sorry that you are so narrow minded that you cannot accept another culture's definitions. But I am not "splitting hairs." The Fatwa is lawful. Moore must be punished for his blasphemy, just like Salman Rushdie.
If your culture threatens the safety of those in another culture, there is something wrong with it. I don't believe that's the real Muslim culture, since the Muslims I know in RL do believe in actual peace, but you're the one being intolerant of Western culture by comdemning this man for writing a book you disagree with.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 03:18
Oh please, anyone with a half a brain cell alive can tell you're deliberately spreading stereotypical and insulting images of Islam and Muslim with this Fatwa crap.
Anyone here can eat 3 BLTs and a baked ham and still be more Muslim than you.
What do you mean "Fatwa crap"? Are you not aware of the practice of an Ayotollah or mufti issuing Fataawa calling for the death of blasphemers. Moore is a Blasphemer and must be punished.
Also, just because you eat pork doesn't mean you stop being a muslim, duh, though it is very wrong to do so. But what does that have to do with anything. Anyone can become a muslim at any time and no-one who is a muslim is more or less muslim than anyone else who is a muslim. You have some very strange ideas about Islam. You should study it more before criticizing it.
You have to blaspheme first. You can't get one without blasphemy. :)
That's stupid. You're a bloody hypocrite. You're making a prerequisite to order a mass assault on an individual?! How pathetic. You really need to find a new hobby/better way of getting people to pay attention to you.
And quit preaching, you aren't a friggin' ayatollah.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 03:19
If your culture threatens the safety of those in another culture, there is something wrong with it. I don't believe that's the real Muslim culture, since the Muslims I know in RL do believe in actual peace, but you're the one being intolerant of Western culture by comdemning this man for writing a book you disagree with.
He is a blasphemer and must be punished. Just like Salman Rushdie. Any if you look at the whole of this thread you will see that even many non-muslims agree with me.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 03:25
That's stupid. You're a bloody hypocrite. You're making a prerequisite to order a mass assault on an individual?! How pathetic. You really need to find a new hobby/better way of getting people to pay attention to you.
And quit preaching, you aren't a friggin' ayatollah.
No need to be so hostile. Jeez.
Unfree People
27-10-2004, 03:25
He is a blasphemer and must be punished. Just like Salman Rushdie. Any if you look at the whole of this thread you will see that even many non-muslims agree with me.
That's a subjective value judgement used on a member of a culture you "obviously know nothing about", to borrow your own phrase. And I think most of them were making fun of you - at any rate - loads more disagree than agree. Although right or wrong shouldn't hinge on whether people agree with you or not.
That's stupid. You're a bloody hypocrite. You're making a prerequisite to order a mass assault on an individual?! How pathetic. You really need to find a new hobby/better way of getting people to pay attention to you.
And quit preaching, you aren't a friggin' ayatollah.
how does one attain the level/title ayatollah?
how does one attain the level/title ayatollah?
Years of preaching bullshit. The same bullshit that ministers, priests, monks, rabbis, and rebbis pump out. Stupid monotheistic crap. It's become banal and cliche these days. I mean, it might have been all the rage a millenium or two ago, but now it's just... sad.
Can't you fools come up with another way to delude yourselves?
Oooh praise Jesus! Praise Allah! Praise Yahweh!
Please. You people couldn't even concieve a good mythology if you tried.
Look, I'm Muhammed and I've transcribing messages from Gabriel!
La-di-friggin da. Look who's the new monotheism on the block.
From Judaism to Scientology, each one dumber than the one before it. I mean, at least the Mooninite Cult calls itself what it really is --- a cult.
If you want delude yourself and hide away your fears of your finality in an invisible deity, at least choose a @#$%ing name you can decide on, and a moderately more feasible story line.
If Judaism is the bastard child of philosophy and mythology, and Christianity is the bastard child of suicidal tendencies and Candyland, I shudder to think of something that describes the pathetic attempts of Shiite and Sunni clerics.
(Was that blasphemous enough? I'm sorry I got so mean and vindictive, I just really want someone to call a Fatwah on me. It gets so lonely at night sometimes... and all I can do is wish people would try and come after me and try to kill me... that or masturbate... to hentai and yaoi...)
*sigh*
Bump, dammit! Come on! I want my fatwah!
(Was that blasphemous enough? I'm sorry I got so mean and vindictive, I just really want someone to call a Fatwah on me. It gets so lonely at night sometimes... and all I can do is wish people would try and come after me and try to kill me... that or masturbate... to hentai and yaoi...)
*sigh*
oh trust me we can tell you are lonely...but muhammeds bosom will comfort you..just let it...
oh trust me we can tell you are lonely...but muhammeds bosom will comfort you..just let it...
*fondles the bosom*
QUIT STALLING! I want my F*cking Fatwah!
(...That would be one cool Fatwah, a "Fucking Fatwah" :p)
Mephistophelese
27-10-2004, 05:18
BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS!
Muhammed is a false prophet! Which religion's followers crashes jet planes into buildings? Christians? Jews? Buddhists? Hindus? No, none of these! Which religion then? Why, of course! It's ISLAM!
BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS
Muhammed is a false prophet! Which religion's followers crashes jet planes into buildings? Christians? Jews? Buddhists? Hindus? No, none of these! Which religion then? Why, of course
Back off, bucko. This Fatwah is mine. I called it first. And Christians have done much worse acts of terrorism throughout history if you really think about it.
Don't make me keep bumping this. I want a Fatwah!
Dobbs Town
27-10-2004, 06:31
I'm staggered. The mods let this stuff linger on and on, but they clamp down hard and fast when people make tasteless jokes about America's military?
Gauthier
27-10-2004, 07:04
Lacadaemon doesn't strike me as a real Muslim, more of a NeoCon who's playing up terrorist stereotypes for self-gratification.
He says Michael Moore committed "blasphemy," but he gives no specific details. If there's someone who actually needs a fatwah, it would have to be Ann "Kill them all and convert them to Christianity" the Creampie Queen Coulter.
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 07:13
Lacadaemon doesn't strike me as a real Muslim, more of a NeoCon who's playing up terrorist stereotypes for self-gratification.
He says Michael Moore committed "blasphemy," but he gives no specific details. If there's someone who actually needs a fatwah, it would have to be Ann "Kill them all and convert them to Christianity" the Creampie Queen Coulter.
I've never read anything by this "Coulter" female, but what you said she said doesn't sound blasphemous. Evil and wrong yes, but not blasphemy to Islam.
That lard bucket Moore's blasphemy sickens me.
Gauthier
27-10-2004, 07:31
Okay, if you want "sounds blasphemous," how about some profound comments from that Fundie tub of crap Jerry Falwell? "Muhammed was a terrorist" and "Islam is an evil and wicked religion" sounds pretty blasphemous towards Islam.
Where's the fatwah on Fat Ass?
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 07:37
Okay, if you want "sounds blasphemous," how about some profound comments from that Fundie tub of crap Jerry Falwell? "Muhammed was a terrorist" and "Islam is an evil and wicked religion" sounds pretty blasphemous towards Islam.
Where's the fatwah on Fat Ass?
Well if you are sure of his blasphemy, by all means, deliver a fatwa on him and his writings - I cannot stop you. I would do it myself, but I don't know anything about him and can't very well go around, in good conscience, handing out fataawa on people I have no idea about. But if what you said is true - and I don't doubt it - somebody should certainly look into it.
But I have my plate full with fatso Moore's blasphemy right now, so I can't be dealing with this "Falwell" individual. Maybe you should start a thread about the need for a "Falwell" fatwa.
Cromenia
27-10-2004, 07:44
See this is a great example why Religion needs to be banned. It's just a book of fairy tales written by some schitzophrenic. Just cause they didn't know what it was back then, didn't mean people didn't have it. Also when you see how crazy acting all the so called prophets have been. So vote NO to Religion :) and Fuck the Fatwa's :)
Tanks and military are ready to attack any nation that doesn't like Cromenia's reply :)
Beaglopia
27-10-2004, 08:01
The things some people do in the name of religion is hardly a reason to indict all religion. Everything is just theory anyway, science, religion, everything. The only things we truly now are things that have been disproven, not proven.
:sniper:
Asylum Nova
27-10-2004, 08:30
It's religious extremists like you, Lacadaemon, that keep me from ever finding any religion to suit me. I seriously believe that NO decent religious figurehead would sentence any living creature to death. Ever. And that includes Moore.
I adore Michael Moore. He's a hard worker, and puts his heart into each and every single thing he does. It is that trait that makes him admirable. He's not a liar, he cites his work. His problem is that he cites the work of anyone who agrees with him, and stretches it.
Asylum Nova
Lacadaemon
27-10-2004, 08:33
I adore Michael Moore. He's a hard worker, and puts his heart into each and every single thing he does. It is that trait that makes him admirable. He's not a liar, he cites his work. His problem is that he cites the work of anyone who agrees with him, and stretches it.
Asylum Nova
He is an obese blasphemer. Hopefully he will soon go into hiding.
Sleepytime Villa
27-10-2004, 22:50
is he in hiding yet?...any word would be helpfull...
The Atheist Clergy
28-10-2004, 00:07
You're straying dangerously close to fatwa territory yourself my friend.
YIPEE!!!!!!! I've already had my christian friends declare a crusade against me. Is this similar or do I actually have compare allah to some obscure refernece to your mother's genitals like I had to with the christians.
Since you want to use religion, you should remember that Jesus died on the cross to save your sorry ass. I imagine if you pray for forgiveness in this death wish against Moore you may be saved? :eek:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Man...what a waste of a jesus. Satan already saved me...sorry. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Yes but the killing is lawful, as per the fatwa. So it isn't murder. It's a fitting punishment for his blasphemy. Just like Salman Rushdie. You see?
And if I'm not mistaken:Rushdie managed to escape you and has actually returned to a fairly normal sort of life. He has taken up writing again you should read some more of his blasphemy. It is alot bitterer now. Really wonderful stuff.
While I do not like Michael Moore, and think that he is a big fat obnoixous lying manipulative muck raking biased antipatriot communist racist antireligous festering bag of gas, I would not call for his death. I would rather he choke on his own words, and recognize the mistakes he has made so he can improve himself. ;)
And he thinks the same about you, douchebag.
That's no different from Bush saying you're subject to Christ's law.
No it isn't. Christ's law is stupid.
Ooooh, Muhammed. Excuse me while I fall to my knees and worship some old guy who lived centries ago. It must be right, if he says it. :rolleyes:
Thats exactly how I feel about jesus.
And I want a fatwah now...DAMNIT!!! And after I get one I just have to piss of some jews so they throw bagels at me. Actually...does Judaism have a synonym for crusade fatwah or jihad.
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 02:25
And if I'm not mistaken:Rushdie managed to escape you and has actually returned to a fairly normal sort of life. He has taken up writing again you should read some more of his blasphemy. It is alot bitterer now. Really wonderful stuff.
Yes you are mistaken. Rushdie escaped no-one, the fatwa was withdrawn in 1998 after he recanted his evil ways and became a faithful muslim.
Moore could do the same, but I believe he is too fat.
Skibereen
28-10-2004, 02:36
Someone asked what a Fatwah/Fatwa was earlier.
It is a religious edict, not typically associated with targeting of a human life.
Fatwahs have been issued against camera/cell phones, all kind of things ...A Fatwah is not always bad.
Mesopotamylon
28-10-2004, 03:07
I very rarely post my views on the forum but in this particular instance.. meh.. I decided I might throw in my two cents.
Firstly a call to a Fatwa in a public forum? I don't know if this has already been stated (I lost interest after sifting through roughly four pages) so excuse me if it already has - but doesn't it seem as though that is basically asking for trouble? Or at the very least trying to start trouble?
Please, don't misunderstand. I am not trying to disrepsect the Muslim religion -but is a nationstates forum really the place for this? Maybe you don't have any other means but I'm sure you could find a differant way to express your displeasure. I.e. creating anti-moore signs to put in your yard, anti-moore banners to hang on your house, or even asking for public support via newspaper or radio.
BUT that is aside from my point.
No offense to anyone who has posted here in hope of having a valid debate over the justifications of murdering Michael Moore (I myself find him annoying, but I don't run around shouting he should be killed. Being a stupid American he has the right to express himself honestly or not. Once again, please don't misunderstand - I myself am a stupid American.) But it is obvious (or at least it seems to me) that the original creator of this thread was simply trying to troll the boards. Would it not have been easier just to simply say "I don't agree with what Michael Moore said in his book, he sucks." Instead of calling out to all faithful Muslim's to try and kill him? I'm sure you could have better conversations instead of the repetativeness it ended up being.
Maybe I'm too uptight, but a public call to murder seems a bit drastic. The Amish are fundamentalists, but you never read about (or hear about, for those of you who watch news on television, respectfully) Amish terrorists, eh?
HadesRulesMuch
28-10-2004, 03:20
However, it hasn't been easy. I have three Muslims hanging in a tree in my backyard. Granted, one may have merely been trying to deliver the mail, but thats just too bad for him. Anyways, I'd just like to state that Muslims can't fight worth a damn, and that I am not scared of this Fatwa thing because I have bigger guns. HAHAHA!
Also, to The Atheist Clergy. Why is Christ's Law stupid? For some reason, you disagree with the man who tells you to "Love your neighbor as yourself", or exemplies all the best qualities in a man? Or is it simply that Christianity considers homosexuality a sin? Perhaps you really don'y know? Or maybe you are basing your opinions on misinformation, or even on Old Testament scripture which has absolutely no bearing on Christians now? Just wondering.
Sub-Actuality
28-10-2004, 03:34
Those of you who are taking this so seriously... I'm convinced at that point that Lac is just kidding... and it's really quite funny. Of course, if he's not... well, I'd rather not think about that.. :)
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 04:31
However, it hasn't been easy. I have three Muslims hanging in a tree in my backyard. Granted, one may have merely been trying to deliver the mail, but thats just too bad for him. Anyways, I'd just like to state that Muslims can't fight worth a damn, and that I am not scared of this Fatwa thing because I have bigger guns. HAHAHA!
I am glad to see that the fathful have heeded the call to action and are attempton to kill you as we speak.
I can only hope that they will also drive that useless fat lard blob Moore into hiding soon.
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 04:38
I very rarely post my views on the forum but in this particular instance.. meh.. I decided I might throw in my two cents.
Firstly a call to a Fatwa in a public forum? I don't know if this has already been stated (I lost interest after sifting through roughly four pages) so excuse me if it already has - but doesn't it seem as though that is basically asking for trouble? Or at the very least trying to start trouble?
Please, don't misunderstand. I am not trying to disrepsect the Muslim religion -but is a nationstates forum really the place for this? Maybe you don't have any other means but I'm sure you could find a differant way to express your displeasure. I.e. creating anti-moore signs to put in your yard, anti-moore banners to hang on your house, or even asking for public support via newspaper or radio.
Are you questioning the wisdom of Islam ?
BUT that is aside from my point.
No offense to anyone who has posted here in hope of having a valid debate over the justifications of murdering Michael Moore (I myself find him annoying, but I don't run around shouting he should be killed. Being a stupid American he has the right to express himself honestly or not. Once again, please don't misunderstand - I myself am a stupid American.) But it is obvious (or at least it seems to me) that the original creator of this thread was simply trying to troll the boards. Would it not have been easier just to simply say "I don't agree with what Michael Moore said in his book, he sucks." Instead of calling out to all faithful Muslim's to try and kill him? I'm sure you could have better conversations instead of the repetativeness it ended up being.
As I stated earlier, I have absolutely no wish to discuss that fat bucket of meat dripping's or his blasphemy. His foul actions and disgusting book sicken me, and I want to think of them as little as possible not have a "better conversation" about them. (Obviously).
The point of the Fatwa is to punish him for his blasphemy, or failing that, drive him into hiding where he will no-longer offend the faithful. This is a call to action, not an invitation to debate.
Maybe I'm too uptight, but a public call to murder seems a bit drastic. The Amish are fundamentalists, but you never read about (or hear about, for those of you who watch news on television, respectfully) Amish terrorists, eh?
Not murder; his just and deserved punishment.
And yes, you are right, the Amish are infidels; but they are also protected under Islam as long as they pay the Jizya and submit to the will of the Faithful. Remember, Islam = peace.
The Gaza Strip
28-10-2004, 04:41
As I have learned from debating muslims in this forum there is no official heirarchy in Islam, which is why there is never really any "official" condemnation of Islamic terrorism.
So this morning I converted to islam and appointed myself in charge of my own mosque. I am also now convinced that I am descended from Muhammed. So yes, I absolutely have the authority to issue a fatwa regarding that fat blob.
BTW, I've been watching Fox News while I'm typing: and he's still not gone into hiding. Pull your finger out fellow Islamisists. :mp5:
Oh, I get it. You're an idiot/right-wing nutjob.:sniper: Hehe, I said nutjob. :D
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 04:45
Oh, I get it. You're an idiot/right-wing nutjob.:sniper: Hehe, I said nutjob. :D
No I am absolutely as legitmate as the Grand Mufti of Australia, who has issued many Fataawa himself. Nutjob, indeed !
The Gaza Strip
28-10-2004, 04:49
If you should issue a fatwa on anyone, it should be president Bush.
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 04:57
If you should issue a fatwa on anyone, it should be president Bush.
No you silly:
1. Bush is not a blasphemer, like that fat lard tub.
2. Someone else has already taken care of that. I can't very well go round delivering contradictory or diferent Fataawa. That would mess the whole of Sharia up now, wouldn't it? There were no Fataawa about fatso Moore until mine, so that one is okay.
3. As I said earlier, I have my plate full with Moore at the moment. If someone else wants to deliver a fatwa about Bush I'm not stopping them, but I can't do everything now can I?
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 06:04
I have just checked the news, and Michael "Pork Belly" Moore is still on his "Slacker" tour of blasphemy.
We must redouble our efforts and force him into hiding now.
Phlekenstein
28-10-2004, 06:50
the only good arabs a dead one
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 07:16
the only good arabs a dead one
This thread is about the Fatwa issued on Michael "Belly fat" Moore. Please try to stay on topic, and please post your racist comments elsewhere. There is absolutely no need for racism. Thank you.
The Force Majeure
28-10-2004, 08:23
Dictionaries are blasphemous. Those who write them, and those who read them, are moving dagerously close to Fatwa territory.
Wha...what? Is this thread a joke?
A dictionary is a history of word usage. Should I assume you've never used one? I bet you're one lousy scrabble player.
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 08:35
Wha...what? Is this thread a joke?
A dictionary is a history of word usage. Should I assume you've never used one? I bet you're one lousy scrabble player.
LOL you are silly too! Of course I have never used a dictionary. Didn't I just say they were blasphemous.
I never play scrabble either. Also Blasphemous.
Aeruillin
28-10-2004, 10:36
This thread has pushed me a considerable length toward Atheism. Since I only believe in gods I've invented myself anyway (or personally know the one who invented them), that doesn't make much of a difference anyway.
I prefer to know what a god stands for before I follow him/her/it. With muddled, translated and reinterpreted religious texts thousands of years old, I don't. So I'm playing it safe.
And violence condoned by any religion, be it Christianity, Judaism or Islam, is a blasphemy.
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 12:08
And violence condoned by any religion, be it Christianity, Judaism or Islam, is a blasphemy.
Very true. As I've pointed out at least a half dozen times on this thread Islam = peace. Thank you for your support.
Siljhouettes
28-10-2004, 13:00
The author of Stupid White Men, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, against the Prophet of Islam, and against the Koran, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to capital punishment. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence without delay, so that no one henceforth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of the Muslims.
So have at him faithful adherents of Islam.
TERRORIST!
Lacadaemon
28-10-2004, 13:09
TERRORIST!
Stop being silly! Islam condemns terrorism. I would never support acts of terror upon innocent people.
Lacadaemon
29-10-2004, 05:06
So today, my television reported that Michael Moore is still publically flaunting his fat disgusting body around American college campuses and openly blaspheming (probably).
Come on! We must try harder.
(I've got to say, due to an "argument" with my computer today, things aren't looking too good for bill gates either.)
All you atheists seem to have the concept of monotheism all wrong. You can't just invent a God and follow it, that doesn't make any sense. The concept of Christianity (and Judaism and Islam for that matter) isn't that you pick a God that suits you the best, or that you pick a God that has common ideals with you. The idea is that there is only one God, and he's the same God whether you like him or not. God does not have to change himself to suit your ideals. So you think that a supreme being of the universe should support homosexuals? Well tough, he doesn't. You can't then argue that Christianity is crap. Christianity deals in beliefs, and although these beliefs can change, there is irrefutable fact behind it.
Also, saying God probably doesn't exist is also stupid. Why doesn't he exist? Becuase you think he doesn't? Well I think he does. There's no point arguing about it.
Copiosa Scotia
29-10-2004, 06:04
C - Come on, Jesus christ. Are you like an 12 year old who is finding this funny ?
He might be twelve years old, but I doubt very much that he's Jesus Christ.
/smartass
Lacadaemon
29-10-2004, 06:12
All you atheists seem to have the concept of monotheism all wrong. You can't just invent a God and follow it, that doesn't make any sense. The concept of Christianity (and Judaism and Islam for that matter) isn't that you pick a God that suits you the best, or that you pick a God that has common ideals with you. The idea is that there is only one God, and he's the same God whether you like him or not. God does not have to change himself to suit your ideals. So you think that a supreme being of the universe should support homosexuals? Well tough, he doesn't. You can't then argue that Christianity is crap. Christianity deals in beliefs, and although these beliefs can change, there is irrefutable fact behind it.
Also, saying God probably doesn't exist is also stupid. Why doesn't he exist? Becuase you think he doesn't? Well I think he does. There's no point arguing about it.
1. I think you mean't to post this in the "is homosexuality a sin" thread. There are many Fataawa on that, indeed. But it is not what we are discussing.
2. Are you suggesting Micheal Moore is Gay?
Thank you for your contribution.
Lacadaemon
29-10-2004, 06:13
He might be twelve years old, but I doubt very much that he's Jesus Christ.
/smartass
Why would anyone think I am Jesus (PBUH). That's just silly.
1. I think you mean't to post this in the "is homosexuality a sin" thread. There are many Fataawa on that, indeed. But it is not what we are discussing.
2. Are you suggesting Micheal Moore is Gay?
Thank you for your contribution.
No, man. I'm just replying to all those people who were telling you that Islam was wrong. Even though I believe that Islam is wrong, I'm not going to start posting in a thread about how a single God probably doesn't exist. At least the Muslims are closer to the truth than the Atheists.
Lacadaemon
29-10-2004, 06:25
No, man. I'm just replying to all those people who were telling you that Islam was wrong. Even though I believe that Islam is wrong, I'm not going to start posting in a thread about how a single God probably doesn't exist. At least the Muslims are closer to the truth than the Atheists.
Okay, that's cool. I'm glad you support the project. Thank you.
Actually no-one has told me not to believe in God, with the exception of Unfree People. Mostly I just get that I am not a real muslim.
MunkeBrain
29-10-2004, 06:41
Two days and that giant wart on the ass of civilization is still walking around? What happened to Muslim initiative? :p
Lacadaemon
29-10-2004, 06:44
Two days and that giant wart on the ass of civilization is still walking around? What happened to Muslim initiative? :p
To be fair, it took a week or so to chase Rushdie into hiding.
But rest assured I will keep at it until he is no longer of consequence - one way or another. :mp5:
MunkeBrain
29-10-2004, 06:50
To be fair, it took a week or so to Rushdie into hiding.
But rest assured I will keep at it until he is no longer of consequence - one way or another. :mp5:
Much appreciated.
Skiptard
09-07-2007, 22:05
so the whole salman rushdie thing was just a joke ?
No thats islamic retards with no education being idiots because someone questioned the islamic faith.
And severely owned it.
Katganistan
09-07-2007, 22:06
Faithful adherents of Islam would know better than to murder someone for having a different opinion. You ought to know better than this.
see: Salman Rushdie and The Satanic Verses.
Skiptard
09-07-2007, 22:09
Very true. As I've pointed out at least a half dozen times on this thread Islam = peace. Thank you for your support.
Yet you have a fatwa on a guy who made a movie.
GG numbnuts, proving everyone elses point on how islam is just violent.
Aside from the oppression of women, torture, death penalties for no reason... well done to you little man!
Katganistan
09-07-2007, 22:10
I declare a Modwa on this thread. (That means all devout NSG'ers will have to live with the fact that -- it's closed.)