NationStates Jolt Archive

Missing some notable ones, I know. I would have liked to see Radiohead and the Smashing Pumpkins on here too. And the Doors. Oh yeah, and the Beatles, maybe. But oh well. These 10 are pretty good.

Oi. not only did you miss off Master Of Puppets, actually much better than Justice, but didn't put things like Soundgarden or The Who, or Slayer (not to everybody's taste)

Missing some notable ones, I know. I would have liked to see Radiohead and the Smashing Pumpkins on here too. And the Doors. Oh yeah, and the Beatles, maybe. But oh well. These 10 are pretty good.

Zeppers are the best of that bunch and they are the only one I own (alongside 2 and 4).

The others are ok but I wouldn't buy the albums of them.

Except Nirvana who are the most over-rated band ever who also have the most over-idolised lead singer in history!

Get some sense people. Nirvana suck!

Oi. not only did you miss off Master Of Puppets, actually much better than Justice, but didn't put things like Soundgarden or The Who, or Slayer (not to everybody's taste)

I wasn't putting more than one album by the same band, and it so happens that I own Justice, but not Master of Puppets :p

And yes, Soundgarden is *definitely* a sore loss on this list. The Who I haven't got into (yet) and Slayer doesn't do it for me.

I am a fan of Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here, espescially SOYCD.

Zeppers are the best of that bunch and they are the only one I own (alongside 2 and 4).

The others are ok but I wouldn't buy the albums of them.

Except Nirvana who are the most over-rated band ever who also have the most over-idolised lead singer in history!

Get some sense people. Nirvana suck!

Nirvana admittedly not be the most intellectual band musically, but that's not the point of it. I used to hate Nirvana for being overrated, but really...once i actually listened to a lot of it, it *really* grew on me. I then picked up a guitar, so Kurt Cobain is therefore indirectly responsible for me getting an interest in music, despite his over-idolisation, thats something good about him :p

Wish you were here is great, but i think its a slight downside to most people that it only has 4 songs (5 if you count both sections of Shine on...)

Nirvana admittedly not be the most intellectual band musically, but that's not the point of it. I used to hate Nirvana for being overrated, but really...once i actually listened to a lot of it, it *really* grew on me. I then picked up a guitar, so Kurt Cobain is therefore indirectly responsible for me getting an interest in music, despite his over-idolisation, thats something good about him :p

You deserve locking up! :mad:

You deserve locking up! :mad:

Don't have an Aneurysm, bud. :D

Don't have an Aneurysm, bud. :D

Maybe, I haven't been to the doctors for a long time.

But seriously how can anyone like Nirvana?

I know I'm getting old when albums released 10 years AFTER I left high school are now being refered to as "Classic Rock"....


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I know I'm getting old when albums released 10 years AFTER I left high school are now being refered to as "Classic Rock"....


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lol, well, The last album on that list is only a couple of years old. When I say classic, I don't necessarily mean "old", just "good" :)

Replace Give Me Convenience or Give me Death with Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables, And Justice for All with Master of Puppets, and replace the last three with 1) The Beatles - either Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road, or White Album; 2) The Doors The Doors; and Th Who's Tommy or Who's Next.

No way Nirvana, Radiohead, and that other band (I've never even heard of them!) are REAL classics.

I know I'm getting old when albums released 10 years AFTER I left high school are now being refered to as "Classic Rock"....


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BINGO!

Replace Give Me Convenience or Give me Death with Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables

I thought that originally, but honestly, I like the feel of GMCOGMD better than FFFRV (whew) It just does it for me.

And Justice for All with Master of Puppets

Been through that already.

and replace the last three with 1) The Beatles - either Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road, or White Album; 2) The Doors The Doors; and Th Who's Tommy or Who's Next.

No way Nirvana, Radiohead,

Pffft. This is my classics list :p But yes, I would have liked to include the Doors and the Beatles, as i've already said.

and that other band (I've never even heard of them!) are REAL classics.

Queens of the Stone Age? Check them out, maybe....IMO, the best rock band of the past few years.

Well, as long as no-one tries to add any emo, or screamo, or basically anything only about losing your girlfriend, i will be eternally happy

Great taste man, but I just gotta agree with a lot of people saying that Master of Puppets deserves the list way more then Justice For All and IMO I think that Led Zeppelin 4 (or four symbols or unnamed or whatever) is the best rock album ever.
Again, IMO (knowing that this list is based on your taste and not in pop culture history) the Heart Shaped Box single is the bestestestestest thing Nirvana ever did. Heart Shaped Box is Nirvana´s best song, no doubt about it.

Great taste man, but I just gotta agree with a lot of people saying that Master of Puppets deserves the list way more then Justice For All and IMO I think that Led Zeppelin 4 (or four symbols or unnamed or whatever) is the best rock album ever.

Well, I'm making Master of Puppets my next purchase then. You still have to agree that Justice is a damn fine album though. "One" is my favourite Metallica song...

It was also a very close call between Led Zep I and IV. Obviously Zep I won, but tomorrow, I could be regretting that choice :)

Well, as long as no-one tries to add any emo, or screamo, or basically anything only about losing your girlfriend, i will be eternally happy
Led Zeppelin - Good Times Bad Times

In the days of my youth
I was told what it was to be a man,
Now I’ve reached the age
I’ve tried to do all those things the best I can.
No matter how I try,
I find my way to do the same old jam.

That´s depressing enough for me and that is just the song that it is on my mind right now, because I just remembered the most classic lyric ever about losing your girlfriend.

"I´ve broken up with my woman cause she couldn´t help me with my mind"

While I agree that these are very good albums, the last 3 are definitely not classics, and I hate Pink Floyd (that album in particular).

Why no Beatles? Dylan? Stones? Beach Boys?

How about this list:

Blood on the Tracks - Bob Dylan
Are You Experienced? - Jimi Hendrix
Revolver - The Beatles
Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys
London Calling - The Clash
Let It Bleed - Rolling Stones
Songs In the Key of Life - Stevie Wonder
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
Velvet Underground and Nico - Velvet Underground
Born to Run - Bruce Springsteen

I think everyone would have at least one album off of this list.

There really weren't any really good Doors albums, they had some good songs but as a whole the albums were mediocre.

and I should have included Who's Next to my version of the list.

That´s depressing enough for me and that is just the song that it is on my mind right now, because I just remembered the most classic lyric ever about losing your girlfriend.

"I´ve broken up with my woman cause she couldn´t help me with my mind"

The best line about breaking up with your woman is this:

It ain't no use in callin' out my name, gal
Like you never did before
It ain't no use in callin' out my name, gal
I can't hear you any more
I'm a-thinkin' and a-wond'rin' all the way down the road
I once loved a woman, a child I'm told
I give her my heart but she wanted my soul
But don't think twice, it's all right

Don't Think Twice, It's Alright - Bob Dylan

I got 6 outta 10, not TOO shabby.

**glances at the list**

But...no Black Sabbath? Bah. Get rid of Queens of the Stone Age (Classic? Arn't they rather new, especially in comparison?) and throw in some of the good stuff ;)

OK, if I was going to put a Zep album, it definately wouldn't be I, probably III or IV. Sabbath, you have to put the s/t on there, it is their best by far. Pink Floyd, I think that WYWH is the best, just glad you didn't put The Wall up there. And good call on The Clash and Hendrix

But I wouldn't consider any of the rest "classic" albums.

You need The Beatles (I'd go with Abbey Road because it's my favorite, or Revolver because it is nearly as good), maybe Rolling Stones (not my cup of tea, but whatever), Santana's Abraxas, some Sly, some Stevie Wonder (Songs in the Key of Life), maybe some Marvin Gaye, some Talking Heads...c'mon, put some real classic stuff up there with the rest.

No Otis Redding?? :( Can we really take this seriously ?? And no Who perhaps oone of the greatest bands of all time !!!

oh yeah, forgot about The Who...but Otis REdding? Didn't exactly make any albums on par with Abbey Road or Who's Next or Songs in the Key of Life.

No Otis Redding?? :( Can we really take this seriously ?? And no Who perhaps oone of the greatest bands of all time !!!

Hell yes, A Change is Gonna Come, You Send Me, Dock of the Bay, What a Wonderful World, Great Shit.

!!! :o :( :mad: :mp5: :headbang: OMFG *foo* IS NOT UP THERE!!! OMFG NOES!!! *HEART ATTACK*


LOL, didn't I say that this is my classics list? I consider these albums classic, so there. And frankly, with all the people telling me what should and should not be up there, are you aware that there are only 10 options allowed in a poll? :p

Really people. I tried a good mix of old and new here. Maybe if you consider that most of the list here is created before I was born you'll realise that maybe I didn't do such a bad job with my whopping 10 choices after all. Or you'll still call me things out of spite and go reflect on the sorry state of modern music, one of the two.

QOTSA rock my socks, but they're a bit young to be labelled classics.

On a related note, Homme's older project, Kyuss, have got that whole Velvet Undergroundy, no-one gave a damn at the time vibe about them. Welcome to Skyvalley is a rock album of undeniable power. Super Scoop and Mighty Scoop is one of those songs you just hand to stand up and wail along to. Space Cadet sounds like peyote!

R is a fantastic albulm though. Only "Monsters in the Parasol" breaks up a string of great song followed by great song followed by... really diverse too.

And Master of Puppets is better.

On a related note, Homme's older project, Kyuss, have got that whole Velvet Undergroundy, no-one gave a damn at the time vibe about them. Welcome to Skyvalley is a rock album of undeniable power.

Yup, but they're much less well known. I had that argument going in my head too and decided more people would (presumably) know QOTSA.

Yeah sorry Kanabia but any of the first three Mettalica albums can be seen as classic, perfect and infuential AJFA is none of these.

Mop is virtually untouchable, ride the lightening is the darkest heaviest tallica album and Kill em all, well, that noise at the start of hit the lights is litterally thrash being born. Then and there. *cymbal crash/guitarchug* yes, thats it. Thrash coming into existance. And thank fuck for that.

And one is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long.

Have you heard the KoRn cover. Its four minutes and infinitely better. All the ideas compressed into a small space.

One has the same overstretchness that saint anger does. Good ideas can be ruined by over use...

Maybe, I haven't been to the doctors for a long time.

But seriously how can anyone like Nirvana?

but seriously, how can anyone like bacon? or olives? or anything, for that matter? surely if someone else doesn't like it, you can't possibly like it?

that's a silly question/statement. there's this thing called personal taste. I'm sure the original poster was judging these bands on his own taste.

personally, I got into Nirvana in a roundabout way, through Mudhoney, and I liked them before they made Nevermind, ie before the world had heard of them.

They tickle my......... :p

Justice is a great album, with possibly the worst production ever. Puppets is a (imo) better album with good production. both are worth owning, as is Ride the Lightning. Got bored with Kill Em All after a few years, but it is a major historical moment in metal, just like Slayer's "Reign in Blood."

thinking in terms of modern metal, I absolutely love System Of A Down. incredible structures, inspired vocals, and great lyrics. and flipping heavy. one day they will be considered classic in someone's list.

currently in my cd player: Plaid - Double Figure (a future "classic")

damn I hate the word "classic" - everyone seems to think it actually means something, when all it means is "old, and someone likes it a lot."

there is no such thing as a REAL classic, because it is decided by personal taste - there are people who think everything on this list sucks, and Elton John is their "true classic artist."

I unfortunately only own the RATM album. If I ha more money, I would also have all of Led Zeppelin's albums, and certainly some more Pink Floyd and some Sabbath.

I'd also class Queen and Cat Stevens albums as among my favourite classics.

I unfortunately only own the RATM album. If I ha more money, I would also have all of Led Zeppelin's albums, and certainly some more Pink Floyd and some Sabbath.

I'd also class Queen and Cat Stevens albums as among my favourite classics.

Everyone should own Led Zeppelin I through Physical Graffiti.

I own all but the clash and dead kidneys :)

but seriously, how can anyone like bacon? or olives? or anything, for that matter? surely if someone else doesn't like it, you can't possibly like it?

that's a silly question/statement. there's this thing called personal taste. I'm sure the original poster was judging these bands on his own taste.

personally, I got into Nirvana in a roundabout way, through Mudhoney, and I liked them before they made Nevermind, ie before the world had heard of them.

Good point!

Actually, the first full Nirvana album I heard was Bleach as well...and that was in 2000, I think...many years past their day. Loved it though.

(And hooray, someone who has heard of Mudhoney :))

thinking in terms of modern metal, I absolutely love System Of A Down. incredible structures, inspired vocals, and great lyrics. and flipping heavy. one day they will be considered classic in someone's list.

Yeah, they're good. Kinda grown out of them a little, though.

I unfortunately only own the RATM album. If I ha more money, I would also have all of Led Zeppelin's albums, and certainly some more Pink Floyd and some Sabbath.

Heh, I know the feeling. Hang in there. :)

Yeah SOAD by SOAD is an album that practically everyone I know owns... well that or Toxicity.

It's not on the list, but the two albums I consider absolute classics of the metal scene weren't listed there:

Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?
Megadeth - Rust in Piece

And besides, even if you want Metallica as opposed to the little brother Megadeth (Whom are better, in my honest opinion), Ride the Lightning > All other Metallica albums ;)

I realize it's just his opinion, but seriously, Ride the Lightning was their truly thrashy stuff when Dave Mustaine's influence was still going strong, and production quality was parsec further ahead than Kill Em All for audio quality.

I also know this album was just released, but I forsee it becomming a classic in the same vein as the other's listed:

Velvet Revolver - Contraband.

That's right. Lots of mixed reviews on this one, but I believe it'll come out on top as a classic. I simply love the CD.

It's not on the list, but the two albums I consider absolute classics of the metal scene weren't listed there:

Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?
Megadeth - Rust in Piece

And besides, even if you want Metallica as opposed to the little brother Megadeth (Whom are better, in my honest opinion), Ride the Lightning > All other Metallica albums

I realize it's just his opinion, but seriously, Ride the Lightning was their truly thrashy stuff when Dave Mustaine's influence was still going strong, and production quality was parsec further ahead than Kill Em All for audio quality.

I also know this album was just released, but I forsee it becomming a classic in the same vein as the other's listed:

Velvet Revolver - Contraband.

That's right. Lots of mixed reviews on this one, but I believe it'll come out on top as a classic. I simply love the CD.

Are you me from the future?

JUSTICE FOR ALL?!?!?!?

dont get me wrong its a great album but its nowhere near Metallica's best let alone one of the ten greatest albums ever recorded :p

i think the title of the thread is misleading dude :p

EDIT: Just read the post above mine. Megadeth are excellent, but IMHO Metallica are just that teensy bit better :)

skips away humming the bass-line to 'Peace Sells... But Who's Buying'

No, Tribes, I'm not you from the future. I'm just a 16 year old who wisened up to good music nice and early ;) .

As far as the whole Megadeth vs. Metallica battle goes, I would have called it a very tight race a couple years ago, with Metallica winning because of their larger community. But since the release of the abomination known as St. Anger, and Megadeth's return to their roots with The System Has Failed, I think Megadeth just edges out Metallica a slight bit.

And to the person above me, the bassline of Peace Sells alone was enough to make it classic XD But then, so does the solo for Tornado of Souls, no? Marty Friedman is godly, as is every lead guitarist Megadeth has ever had.

Says a lot about a band when you've got one of the best bassist, David Ellefson; A rythm guitarist who is good enough to be a lead (And was for Metallica, way back), Dave Mustaine; A lead guitarist who even blows the rythm guitarist away, Marty Friedman for the win!; And one of the coolest drummers that kicks Lars Ulrich's ass, in skill and personality, Nick Menza.

I know they weren't always the MEgadeth lineup, but definitely were the best. Speaking of which, while I love The System Has Failed, which is better than St. Anger.... Without Ellefson Megadeth feels a little hollow, even with Chris Poland's return.

Pink Floyd are so lame.

The only ones who even know who they are...or were...are damned limeys.

Pink Floyd are so lame.

The only ones who even know who they are...or were...are damned limeys.

for every time you insult the british or pink floyd, i shall kill you

oh god metallica should be beaten for St. Anger. I couldn't cope. My mind was screaming shit so loud that several St. Anger fans exploded. It was on the news

i have nothing against pink floyd but i dont like his music

No, Tribes, I'm not you from the future. I'm just a 16 year old who wisened up to good music nice and early ;) .

I'm only 17, mate, just like old metal

Insulting Pink Floyd is like blasphemy to the ears of music fans, as is insulting the Rolling Stones, and to most, the Beatles. You'd best tread lightly.

Something else I just noticed about the poll.... NO ALICE COOPER?! Blarg!

*Hums No More Mr. Nice Guy, while crying himself to sleep.* :p

Blarg indeed. there should be some AIC on this as well

i have nothing against pink floyd but i dont like his music
:eek: Dude they're a group not a man.

i sort of know this guy: it might be sarcastic

i think the title of the thread is misleading dude :p

Do you think so? I mean I thought everybody knew that an album can become a classic in a decade or less!!!!!!! ;)

Honestly though, it is a badly titled thread. Kanabia, while you got some good albums on there, some of those albums on there don't qualify as classics. If you're asking me, it takes at least fifteen, probably more like twenty, years to become a classic. simply stated albums by Nirvana and Rage Against the Machine are not going to cut it as classics.

he's defining them as classic as in cool. wrong, but you see what he's driving at

for every time you insult the british or pink floyd, i shall kill you

Onion Zombie crawls back to life after once having been murdered.

"They have no energy! They are like pond slime, they just sit there and do nothing! Their lyrics are totally adolescent, including being full of themselves as id they were God's great gift to humanity.

So what will you do now? Kill me?"

Pink Floyd are a bunch of wankers.

Arena rock can suck my nuts.

Insulting Pink Floyd is like blasphemy to the ears of music fans, as is insulting the Rolling Stones, and to most, the Beatles. You'd best tread lightly.

Something else I just noticed about the poll.... NO ALICE COOPER?! Blarg!

*Hums No More Mr. Nice Guy, while crying himself to sleep.* :p
Here, here!!! I decree anyone caught insulting Pink Floyd, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix should be stoned to death!!! :p

Pink Floyd are a bunch of wankers.
Ah, our first offender!!!

Hmmm which one doesn't belong?

Jimi Hendrix
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
Pink Floyd

Pink Floyd, because they suck, the rest are great.

he's defining them as classic as in cool. wrong, but you see what he's driving at
I see what he is driving at, but his execution is all wrong. I mean can any album by Nirvana be considered a "REAL Classic" as the title of this thread proclaims? I think not. Not to say they're not a good group, but classic?

Let me be the second.

Most of the above is right shite. I admit that Pink Floyd is less shite than the rest, but that's the only concession I'll make.

Any stones coming my way will be returned promptly, and with interest. Rolling or otherwise.

Hmmm which one doesn't belong?

Jimi Hendrix
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
Pink Floyd

Pink Floyd, because they suck, the rest are great.
Then explain to me why Dark Side of the Moon has outsold anything on this list at the beginning of this thread, other than itself?

Onion Zombie crawls back to life after once having been murdered.

"They have no energy! They are like pond slime, they just sit there and do nothing! Their lyrics are totally adolescent, including being full of themselves as id they were God's great gift to humanity.

So what will you do now? Kill me?"

Tribes takes a shovel and neatly cleaves onion pirates into two parts, then locks them in a case full of acid, destroying all his molecules and turining onion pirates into CO2 and H2O

"How do you like that you bastard!" :gundge:

Hmmm which one doesn't belong?

Jimi Hendrix
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
Pink Floyd

Pink Floyd, because they suck, the rest are great.

Suddenly, the ground opens up and swallows sussudio, who is quickly sodomised by satan

Suddenly, the ground opens up and swallows sussudio, who is quickly sodomised by satan
About time something was done with sussudio. ;)

satan knows best

I'd argue otherwise, but in this case? Yes :D

well, I was going o say sodomised by God, but that would be REALLY offensive

Then explain to me why Dark Side of the Moon has outsold anything on this list at the beginning of this thread, other than itself?

Sales mean very little, my friend.

true, but its still a good album

Sales mean very little, my friend.
But if they suck as much as you say, which they don't, why the hell are Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and the Wall still selling fairly well? That's my point. If they sucked beyond all suckiness wouldn't you think people would see through them by now? I mean all those were produced in the 70's and people still listen to them, still buy them, and still enjoy them? Give me a break, they do not suck. If they're not your thing, then fine. Just don't go another insulting them or I'll break out a nice discussion on why most of the stuff that has come out in the past decade or so sucks, with some exceptions of course.

But if they suck as much as you, which they don't, why the hell are Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and the Wall still selling fairly well? That's my point. If they sucked beyond all suckiness wouldn't you think people would see through them by now? I mean all those were produced in the 70's and people still listen to them, still buy them, and still enjoy them? Give me a break, they do not suck. If they're not your thing, then fine. Just don't go another insulting them or I'll break out a nice discussion on why most of the stuff that has come out in the past decade or so sucks, with some exceptions of course.

woooo! Ahh, tis unfair to criticise the poor person. Yhey have just been sodomised

woooo! Ahh, tis unfair to criticise the poor person. Yhey have just been sodomised
Maybe, that and listen to DSOTM while he/she is.....well you. Everybody needs a little music to set the mood :D

Maybe, that and listen to DSOTM while he/she is.....well you. Everybody needs a little music to set the mood :D

thats eeeeeeeeeevil

At least it gives him/her a legitimate reason to hate Pink Floyd. I mean what's more legit than negative association? :D

or, they might develop stockholm syndrome, fall in love with satan and DSOTM! We win either way!

Pink Floyd were the gods of psychadelic/progressive rock. I personally don't know how anyone can say they sucked, but then again, there are people in this society who actually enjoy listening to Good Charlotte.

I could see it now:

(Radio playing in background)

Sussudio: "Turn that up, it's 'Time'!!! It's my favorite!!! Satan and I professed our love to it!!!"

Innocent Bystander: "Dude, what did you say?"

Sussudio: "It's my favorite song from DSOTM, 'Time'. Well technically, and artistically, DSOTM is one whole piece but..."

Innocent Bystander: "No before that? Did you say what I think you did?"

Sussudio: "About Satan and I?"

Innocent Bystander: "Yes. That thing."

Sussudio: "Of course I did. Him and I made out like....."

Innocent Bystander: "PLEASE STOP!!! I think I'm gonna be sick."

...and it always seems Hendrix stands tall. no matter who's insulting who, he seems to be untouched...and with d*mn good reason, too.

Where's Bob Dylan?

Bob Dylan's music is better than all of those assholes. Hell, most of them sang one or two Dylan songs. Hendrix did three Dylan tunes.

Where's Bob Dylan?

Bob Dylan's music is better than all of those assholes. Hell, most of them sang one or two Dylan songs. Hendrix did three Dylan tunes.
I think it would be more appropriate to say Dylan is better than many on this poll and equal in stature to the rest. There's no denying his influence that's for sure, but to call the rest of the groups and individuals assholes is wrong in my opinion. I mean can you honestly deny the influence that Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and hell even Black Sabbath and the Clash have had on music?

for every time you insult the british or pink floyd, i shall kill you

Onion Zombie crawls back to life after once having been murdered.

"They have no energy! They are like pond slime, they just sit there and do nothing! Their lyrics are totally adolescent, including being full of themselves as id they were God's great gift to humanity.

So what will you do now? Kill me?"

Onion Zombie crawls back to life after once having been murdered.

"They have no energy! They are like pond slime, they just sit there and do nothing! Their lyrics are totally adolescent, including being full of themselves as id they were God's great gift to humanity.

So what will you do now? Kill me?"

Picks up chainsaw and cuts off Onion Zombie's head.

"What did you say bitch? What's that? I don't hear a thing. That's what I thought." :D

Honestly, if you don't like them that is prefectly fine. You're entitled to your own opinion. But lay off of them will you? They're better than you think. Then again you probably wouldn't know, as I'm going to assume your preconcieved notions about Pink Floyd are based on what is played on the radio. Quite frankly, they're an album band and you'll never get the full effect until you listen through an entire album or two. My suggestion is this listen to DSOTM and WYWH all the way through.

i own led zeppelin II, ride the lightening, the wall and are you experienced? different albums by the artists mentioned if that counts for anything.

although i don't get how the hell queens of the stone age, nirvana or rage against the machine made classical albums. hell, if you want contemporary bands making classical albums, look for the chili peppers... they kick the asses of all those bands.

i own led zeppelin II, ride the lightening, the wall and are you experienced? different albums by the artists mentioned if that counts for anything.

although i don't get how the hell queens of the stone age, nirvana or rage against the machine made classical albums. hell, if you want contemporary bands making classical albums, look for the chili peppers... they kick the asses of all those bands.

Led Zeppelin II is their best album in my mind.

Well any album from I through Physical Graffiti is excellent. I personally, prefer Led Zep III and Physical Graffiti over the others, though the other
four aren't far behind. Pressence isn't great, but its worth having if only for Achilles Last Stand and Nobody's Fault But Mine. Both are great songs in my opinion with Achilles Last Stand being one of their best. In Through the Out Door is an okay album, but I don't care that much for it.

Do you think so? I mean I thought everybody knew that an album can become a classic in a decade or less!!!!!!! ;)

Honestly though, it is a badly titled thread. Kanabia, while you got some good albums on there, some of those albums on there don't qualify as classics. If you're asking me, it takes at least fifteen, probably more like twenty, years to become a classic. simply stated albums by Nirvana and Rage Against the Machine are not going to cut it as classics.

Yes, they will. And as a matter of fact, RATMs first album is approaching 15 years old. They will be remembered in years to come as a groundbreaking artist that pioneered a completely original sound. They were the first band to pull of a rock/hip-hop sound, and so far the only one (in my opinion) to do it successfully. It is an album that will be remembered in 30 years. It is a classic by any definition. Age criteria is pointless.

Nirvana are classic for a different reason. They turned the tables of modern music and whether they liked it or not, shaped it around their image. They were at the forefront of a period of change, and in the process released a number of in my opinion (and that of many people) a bunch of damn good albums. They will be remembered as a classic in 30 years.

QOTSA, I will agree, stands out like a bit of a sore thumb. But hey, I wanted to include something from the years 2000-now, so tough biscuits. I think that they are easily the best modern rock band.

I'm going to assume your preconcieved notions about Pink Floyd are based on what is played on the radio. Quite frankly, they're an album band and you'll never get the full effect until you listen through an entire album or two. My suggestion is this listen to DSOTM and WYWH all the way through.

Also "Echoes" from Meddle, with haedphones.

And another thing, the true great Dead Kennedys album was Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables.

Remember also The Ramones.