Bad Guy Appreciation
Friend Computer
25-10-2004, 10:35
I'm just wondering if I'm just some kind of freak or if this kind of thing is widespread.
Does anyone else cheer on the bad guys in films, like playing Dungeon Keeper and, more recently, Evil Genius and wish they had a secret lair, complete with huge laser, piranha pool and crushing-death-traps?
I've always wanted Blofeld to stop gloating and just damn-well shoot James Bond, Agent Smith not to explode for no real reason and Skeletor to wipe that stupid moronic grin off He-Man's stupid hollow head.
It always seems so unfair to me the ways authors and film-makers twist and double back on themselves to make the villains lose in the end. They deserve to take over the world once in a while.
Kleptonis
25-10-2004, 10:46
Go watch the Star Wars trilogy, but stop before you watch the third one. ;)
But yeah, the good guys are too annoying a lot of the time to cheer for them, and the bad guys are usually as cool as the good guys are annoying.
BackwoodsSquatches
25-10-2004, 10:47
There there.
I feel your pain.
"Evil will always triumph over good, becuase good, is dumb."
-Dark Helmet.
Yep, I'm an evil-overlord-phile.
I just have to be satisfied with Lord Vetinari from Discworld. All the evilness, minus any chance of being overthrown.
I do tend to yell at the tv though, to the effect that the good guys should die and the bad guys should win.
It confuses many people ;).
Cannot think of a name
25-10-2004, 10:53
On the subject of Skeletor, look at Eternia. It's a crap hole. No infra-structure, dried out wasteland. And what is He-Man spending the tax-payers money on? Dragonwalkers. Sure, he can cross the many crevaces(sp) and crags that litter the country side, but how is that helping the average farmer get thier produce to market?
And who makes up He-Man's cabinet? Man-at-Arms, Ram-Man. All hawks. And who trusts any decisions made by a body that keeps Orco around? Face it, He-Man is really just a puppet of the Sorceress and Greyskull. He doesn't have the average Eternian's intrest at heart.
Skeletor lives in the wastes and the swamps, close to the neediest of Eternia. His cabinet is made up of enviromentally responsable members such as Beastman. If we where allowed to really examine what Skeletor is, we might find that he has a better plan for Eternia. So He-Man manufactures this 'war' on Skeletor to villianize him. But we don't have to buy it.
Skeletor for a better Eternia! Build Bridges, not Dragonwalkers!!
See, you're not rooting for the bad guy in this instance, you are seeing through the lies.
Phaiakia
25-10-2004, 10:54
Oh, you are not alone...
The villains are always the best characters, they have the most fun, and do whatever they please. Plus they get the best laughter
Kellarly
25-10-2004, 10:55
Yep, I'm an evil-overlord-phile.
I just have to be satisfied with Lord Vetinari from Discworld. All the evilness, minus any chance of being overthrown.
I do tend to yell at the tv though, to the effect that the good guys should die and the bad guys should win.
It confuses many people ;).
Ahhhhh, Lord Vetinari, who happens to be a great believer in the 'One Man, One Vote' system of democracy....he is the man...he has the vote lol :D
Styvonia
25-10-2004, 11:01
In terms of James Bond style bad guys,
I think it would be worth having an almost guarenteed gory-death for the hour and a half of high tech weapons and mass murder you get before Bond manages to get into my hollowed out volcano and kill me.
If they'd only stop telling him their plans though...
BackwoodsSquatches
25-10-2004, 11:02
Ahhhhh, Lord Vetinari, who happens to be a great believer in the 'One Man, One Vote' system of democracy....he is the man...he has the vote lol :D
I prefer Sam Vimes opinion of democracy.
"I get a vote..thats great. But it also means that Knobby Nobbs gets a vote. thats bad."
Kellarly
25-10-2004, 11:04
I prefer Sam Vimes opinion of democracy.
"I get a vote..thats great. But it also means that Knobby Nobbs gets a vote. thats bad."
yeah i liked that one too :D i know its off topic, but do you have a fav discworld novel? my personal fav is Small Gods, brilliant stuff.
Styvonia
25-10-2004, 11:06
yeah i liked that one too :D i know its off topic, but do you have a fav discworld novel? my personal fav is Small Gods, brilliant stuff.
Reaper Man was the first one i read and it's still my fav
BackwoodsSquatches
25-10-2004, 11:09
yeah i liked that one too :D i know its off topic, but do you have a fav discworld novel? my personal fav is Small Gods, brilliant stuff.
Small Gods was awsome.
"Let there be lettuce!"
Witches abroad was good, too.
Granny Weatherwax rules.
Anything with the Silver Horde is also great, same goes with Rincewind.
Also, I recently read Men at Arms.
Very very good.
Kellarly
25-10-2004, 11:11
Small Gods was awsome.
"Let there be lettuce!"
Witches abroad was good, too.
Granny Weatherwax rules.
Anything with the Silver Horde is also great, same goes with Rincewind.
Also, I recently read Men at Arms.
Very very good.
read the rest of that trilogy with guards guards and the other one, forget the name, they are all brilliant
Small Gods was awsome.
"Let there be lettuce!"
Witches abroad was good, too.
Granny Weatherwax rules.
Anything with the Silver Horde is also great, same goes with Rincewind.
Also, I recently read Men at Arms.
Very very good.
Lords and Ladies makes me cry. Guards! Guards! I think was his first really good "serious" novel, and the Night Watch was great.
Which do you think is his worst - Hogfather??
Kellarly
25-10-2004, 11:17
Lords and Ladies makes me cry. Guards! Guards! I think was his first really good "serious" novel, and the Night Watch was great.
Which do you think is his worst - Hogfather??
Soulmusic...it was a bit like moving pictures but not as good, although the picture of death with an electric guitar by paul kirby rocks
I just have to be satisfied with Lord Vetinari from Discworld. All the evilness, minus any chance of being overthrown.
Here Here. Lord V, is my favorite character from the Diskworld series. The first time I read a book he was in I was like, "Finally, an evil overlord with out the chronic 'missing idiot*' syndrome."
* The 'missing idiot' syndrome, also known as the 5-year-old problem, is an issue in which a plan, trap, or scheme appears brilliant and even 'fool-proof' on the surface, and yet has a problem so big that a complete idiot and/or a 5 year old could see it. Most villains in books have this problem. Think, 'Dr Evil' or any Bond villain, and you have the right Idea.
Friend Computer
25-10-2004, 11:43
Has anyone alse seen this?
http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
If only Blofeld & Co. had read it before they went off on the world domination thing...
Friend Computer
25-10-2004, 16:00
Bump.
Demented Hamsters
25-10-2004, 17:01
I'm like this watching Tom and Jerry cartoons. I keep having to stop myself from yelling at the TV: "For god's sake, Tom! Just break that fucking mouse's back! Fuck all this getting a Hoagy out and filling it with lettuce and tomato and cheese and crap! The bloody mouse always runs away when you do that. Do tit after you've snapped his wee spine in half. Then you can push him round the floor for hours and chuck him in the air. That's what my cat does."
Never happen though. Man is that cat Tom dumb.
Grave_n_idle
25-10-2004, 17:04
Soulmusic...it was a bit like moving pictures but not as good, although the picture of death with an electric guitar by paul kirby rocks
Exactly. Soul Music was Moving Pictures, but with the music industry instead of Hollywood. (Holywood).
Demented Hamsters
25-10-2004, 17:07
Has anyone read the 'Watchmen' comics, by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons?
I love the bit in the last issue when the supervillian is giving a tour of his facilities and telling them his evil plan and the heroes ask him when he intends carrying it out. He replies:"Oh, really. Do you think me one of those Saturday-morning serial villians who tell you everything so you can thwart me? I'm only telling you because it's too late for you to do anything. I carried it out 1/2 an hour ago." Cue a great picture of the Heroes looking dumbfounded at each other.
Pure Class. Gotta love Alan Moore's writings. If only there were a few more villians like him.
Planta Genestae
25-10-2004, 17:26
Am I the only one here who's favourite Simpsons character after Homer is Mr Burns?
The epitome of Evil! :mad: