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Did Ann Cruelter- er, I mean, Coulter- really say we should "kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity?" (or something to that effect)

How do you pronounce the name 'Pinochet?'

What are all the belts in karate, from highest (black) to lowest (white)? (I don't know the order they all go in).

Anyone? :(

Yes she did say that but I have yet to understand why.

yes, Ann Coulter did say that.

Sorry, I can't help you with the other two. :(

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

Thanks, guys. :)

1. Yes. Coultergeist really said that. Last Paragraph. (http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter091301.shtml)

Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter) are some other lovely gems from that bitch, including:

When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

2. 'Peen-o-shay"

3. Google it.

1. Yes. Coultergeist really said that. Last Paragraph. (http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter091301.shtml)

Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter) are some other lovely gems from that bitch, including:



2. 'Peen-o-shay"

3. Google it.

Thanks, Myrth!

coulters has probably said that dozens of times

i assume Pê-nô-shê? (the ^standing for long letters)

and karate belts vary with schools. the one i went to was: (color belt then three color stripes from next belt then next belt): white, yellow, blue, red, black, various degrees of black. another as white, blue, purple, red, brown, black, degree of black. or something like that

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

That is good stuff, I agree.

coulters has probably said that dozens of times

i assume Pê-nô-shê? (the ^standing for long letters)

and karate belts vary with schools. the one i went to was: (color belt then three color stripes from next belt then next belt): white, yellow, blue, red, black, various degrees of black. another as white, blue, purple, red, brown, black, degree of black. or something like that

Thanks, CS!

How do you pronounce the name 'Pinochet?'



As far as I understand, you may pronounce the name with or without the -t in the end. Most of my Chilean friends say "peeno-chette" but some Spanish news reporters on the TV keep saying "peeno-chey". In any way, the "ch" should be a short sound like in "chocolate" rather than "shine".



What are all the belts in karate, from highest (black) to lowest (white)? (I don't know the order they all go in).



This depends om what sort of Karate you mean. Black, brown, blue/purple, green, orange, yellow and white is the probably the most common order, but to make sure, you should specifiy what branch of Karate you are interested in. Sometimes there are several belts of the same colour (you are promoted from green to green) and in some systems a red belt comes into the picture.

For some basic history on the colour system in martial arts, see

http://www.all-karate.com/history_karate_belt_colors.php

Hope that this helps you out.

As far as I understand, you may pronounce the name with or without the -t in the end. Most of my Chilean friends say "peeno-chette" but some Spanish news reporters on the TV keep saying "peeno-chey". In any way, the "ch" should be a short sound like in "chocolate" rather than "shine".



This depends om what sort of Karate you mean. Black, brown, blue/purple, green, orange, yellow and white is the probably the most common order, but to make sure, you should specifiy what branch of Karate you are interested in. Sometimes there are several belts of the same colour (you are promoted from green to green) and in some systems a red belt comes into the picture.

For some basic history on the colour system in martial arts, see

http://www.all-karate.com/history_karate_belt_colors.php

Hope that this helps you out.

Thanks! :)

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

That is good stuff, I agree.

:D

To paraphrase a good number of my professors on their allegience to the Nation:

"I have no country... I'm a 'citizen of the world!' Socialism has no borders!"

:mp5: [Blam!]

:D :cool:

NOW you have no country.. you're a citizen of a mass grave. ;)

I kinda like the idea of executing liberals...can we start with Barbara Streisand?

I kinda like the idea of executing liberals...can we start with Barbara Streisand?

Nah.. we'll just seize her assets and watch her try and survive in the real world... we could televise it and watch her fall apart. ;)

Nah.. we'll just seize her assets and watch her try and survive in the real world... we could televise it and watch her fall apart. ;)
OOOOOOOOOOOOH.
Low blow, most definitely a low blow.
I don't believe we should execute all the liberals. However, I think individuals such as John Ashcroft, Michael Moore, and other such assholes on either side should be rounded up, taken to prison, and left in a cell with 50 lifers, all ironically named Shaft.

I kinda like the idea of executing liberals...can we start with Barbara Streisand?
Followed closely by Micahel Moore, Al Franken, and Tootie.

I'm sure Hitler would be proud of you guys.

I'm sure Hitler would be proud of you guys.

Hey, not all liberals are traitors (even if most traitors are liberals). ;)

That said, traitors are executed, categorically.

Come on. If you're going for genocide you can't do a halfassed job. You already got the idea of censoring opposing viewpoints down. Now, you just need a nifty salute for each other and you're all set.

Come on. If you're going for genocide you can't do a halfassed job. You already got the idea of censoring opposing viewpoints down. Now, you just need a nifty salute for each other and you're all set.

Travelling to a warzone and fighting for the enemy isn't an opposing viewpoint. :rolleyes:

I swear, liberals trying to rationalize treason.. cute at first, but it gets old.

Travelling to a warzone and fighting for the enemy isn't an opposing viewpoint. :rolleyes:

I swear, liberals trying to rationalize treason.. cute at first, but it gets old.
grow the fuck up stupid ass neocon

Travelling to a warzone and fighting for the enemy isn't an opposing viewpoint. :rolleyes:

I swear, liberals trying to rationalize treason.. cute at first, but it gets old.
Except Coulter's definition of traitor is something like "anyone who isn't a Republican." Not someone who travels to a warzone and fights for the enemy.

Except Coulter's definition of traitor is something like "anyone who isn't a Republican." Not someone who travels to a warzone and fights for the enemy.

I'm not arguing for Coulter's definition, whatever it may be. I was responding to her quote here:

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

I haven't read her books.

I was responding to her quote ...

Sorry, but you came out of left-field with that one. Her point is one of condoning horribly unethical political tactics the like of which at least two men with moustaches were known to employ.

Sorry, but you came out of left-field with that one. Her point is one of condoning horribly unethical political tactics the like of which at least two men with moustaches were known to employ.

If executing actual traitors has the residual effect of putting pressure on potential traitors, then so be it. That's the point, however sarcastically Coulter puts it.

Now if it only weren't for pesky things like ethics and morality, eh?

Now if it only weren't for pesky things like ethics and morality, eh?

I don't believe it to be immoral or unethical to execute a traitor. Neither can I recall a secular ethical system where it would be considered wrong out of hand.

grow the fuck up stupid ass neocon
Ahh, the height of Liberal debate.

Ahh, the height of Liberal debate.

No, no. He's right. I should grow up and learn to ignore treason like our liberal friends have. ;)

Ahh, the height of Liberal debate.

Olympus Mons to your Marianas Trench.

I don't believe it to be immoral or unethical to execute a traitor. Neither can I recall a secular ethical system where it would be considered wrong out of hand.

I'm sure Jesus would like to have a few words with you.

I guess those British should have slaughtered all those rebelling American colonials and you'd have been cheering them on for doing the right, "ethical" thng?

No, no. He's right. I should grow up and learn to ignore treason like our liberal friends have. ;)
:D Ignore it, abate it, conspire with it.

I'm sure Jesus would like to have a few words with you.


Did I or did I not say "secular ethical system?"

God, you guys on the extreme Religious Left gotta quit oppressing me, already... :rolleyes:

Did I or did I not say "secular ethical system?"

God, you guys on the extreme Religious Left gotta quit oppressing me, already... :rolleyes:

Ah ... Hi. I'm an athiest.

I was just covering all bases. Please respond to the entiety of my post.

Ah ... Hi. I'm an athiest.

I was just covering all bases. Please respond to the entiety of my post.

If you're an athEIst, then surely you know the difference between a secular and a non-secular code of ethics.

Olympus Mons to your Marianas Trench.




Yeah, because I debate by cursing, and insulting people. :rolleyes:

Yeah, because I debate by cursing, and insulting people. :rolleyes:

I took that as a compliment, actually. See, at least the Marianas trench is on Earth, whereas Olympus Mons... ;)

I took that as a compliment, actually. See, at least the Marianas trench is on Earth, whereas Olympus Mons... ;)
ROFL :D

grow the fuck up stupid ass neocon
So brilliant, I can't stop staring. Blinding, really.

Yeah, because I debate by cursing, and insulting people. :rolleyes:

No, intellectual dishonesty is your forte.

No, intellectual dishonesty is your forte.
I point you left for intellectual dishonesty.

If you're an athEIst, then surely you know the difference between a secular and a non-secular code of ethics.

Re: Please respond to the entirety of my post. The part you seem so adamant about is irrelevant to my actual point.

I take it you'd figure by now that an atheist mentioning Jesus amounts to tongue-in-the-cheek humour.

I point you left for intellectual dishonesty.

Why bother when your topic (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=368001) is still on the first page?

Re: Please respond to the entirety of my post. The part you seem so adamant about is irrelevant to my actual point.

I take it you'd figure by now that an atheist mentioning Jesus amounts to tongue-in-the-cheek humour.

The humor was that I asked for a secular ethical system that would condemn the execution of a traitor. Your response was Jesus, a non-secular figure to say the least.

Treason and revolution are not one and the same, even if revolution can be considered a form of treason. Prosecuting a war and prosecuting traitors are two different animals. Traitors conspire against an established state, while revolutionaries try and establish their own.. two different problems.

Bah, Coulter just said what everyone is thinking..

Arab blood ain't worth dirt, let alone oil.

The humor was that I asked for a secular ethical system that would condemn the execution of a traitor. Your response was Jesus, a non-secular figure to say the least.


I'll point out Utilitarianism, just for you.


Treason and revolution are not one and the same, even if revolution can be considered a form of treason. Prosecuting a war and prosecuting traitors are two different animals. Traitors conspire against an established state, while revolutionaries try and establish their own.. two different problems.

Revolutionaries are traitors to the state they revolt against. They're just the conspirators who succeed. Does this mean they're rectified?

Killing people "to make an example of them" is purely machevellian.

Bah, Coulter just said what everyone is thinking..

Arab blood ain't worth dirt, let alone oil.
Who is "everyone"?

Bah, Coulter just said what everyone is thinking..

Arab blood ain't worth dirt, let alone oil.
Perhaps they are angry that thier glory years are a millenium in the past, and without Oil, they would be just like sub-saharan Africa. Fuedal lords murdering each other over sand.

[QUOTE=Roach-Busters]Did Ann Cruelter- er, I mean, Coulter- really say we should "kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity?" (or something to that effect) QUOTE]

Yeah that was her comments concerning 9/11. "I am often asked if I still think we should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity . The answer is: Now more than ever!" -Ann Coulter

It sounds good to me!

-With the election a few weeks away, the two main reasons Kerry has settled on for why you should vote for him are: (1) Dick Cheney has a lesbian daughter, and (2) Halliburton! -Ann Coulter

"If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no." -John Kerry citing his undying love fighting for the United Nations, while stating lives lost under the United States flag are unimportant.

What are all the belts in karate, from highest (black) to lowest (white)? (I don't know the order they all go in).

Mine was White, Orange, Blue, Yellow, Green, Brown, Black, I think. A bit different from the others posted, so I guess it varies.

"If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no." -John Kerry citing his undying love fighting for the United Nations, while stating lives lost under the United States flag are unimportant.
Where do you get your skills of making logical connections? They're severely lacking. Or are you just parroting something you saw on tv?
No, he's not "stating lives lost under the United States flag are unimportant"
he's saying it was wrong to send soldiers in to fight an ill-planned battle without the support of more nations on the planet.

Yeah, because I debate by cursing, and insulting people. :rolleyes:

Well, yes you do actually - it's kind of ironic considering that you have been forumbanned in the past for trolling.