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Yasser Arafat endorses Kerry

Armed Athenians
25-10-2004, 00:38
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40988

I feel safer already! I am still waiting for Osama's endorsement.

As if it means something, Kerry keeps vowing: "I will never stop at anything to hunt down and kill the terrorists." But he will stop at the Iraqi border. Or if the French and Germans aren't on board. Or we don't have United Nations approval. Or it would require investigating a Muslim under the Patriot Act. - Ann Coulter
Spoffin
25-10-2004, 00:46
As if it means something, Kerry keeps vowing: "I will never stop at anything to hunt down and kill the terrorists." But he will stop at the Iraqi border. Or if the French and Germans aren't on board. Or we don't have United Nations approval. Or it would require investigating a Muslim under the Patriot Act. - Ann Coulter
Can someone please give that bitch a pie
The God King Eru-sama
25-10-2004, 00:56
As if it means something, Kerry keeps vowing: "I will never stop at anything to hunt down and kill the terrorists." But he will stop at the Iraqi border. Or if the French and Germans aren't on board. Or we don't have United Nations approval. Or it would require investigating a Muslim under the Patriot Act.

Yes, because you're "soft on terror" unless you think

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders
and convert them to Christianity."


am i rite?
Superpower07
25-10-2004, 01:17
Lol - at first, i thought this was a piece of fake journalism, but lo and behold, it aint!
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 01:18
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40988

I feel safer already! I am still waiting for Osama's endorsement.

He already endorsed Kerry when he spoke at the convention.
Chess Squares
25-10-2004, 01:25
your credibility got KO'd soon as you quoted ann coulter

i could quote santa claus and have more credibility than some one who quotes coulter
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 01:26
He already endorsed Kerry when he spoke at the convention.

If that's true, then Republicans must be the most hated creatures on the planet, since one is losing by 40 percentage points to this "Osama*" you mention.

*Maybe you're trying desperately to be funny. You ain't. Maybe you're just an attention whore. I dunno. You are clearly annoying though.
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 01:27
Why does Ann Coulter keep saying trash about how weak Kerry is on defense and then babble on about having another damn crusade? She is someone who gets too much attention for what she says.
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 01:39
Russia and Iran have endorsed Bush. Now that's scary.
Siljhouettes
25-10-2004, 01:41
Why does Ann Coulter keep saying trash about how weak Kerry is on defense and then babble on about having another damn crusade? She is someone who gets too much attention for what she says.
The reason she gets attention is because her views are so extreme. Why can she and MunkeBrain not argue with liberals without accusing them of being monsters or something?
Chess Squares
25-10-2004, 01:41
Russia and Iran have endorsed Bush. Now that's scary.
whats scary is bush said putin is doing a good job in his country. you all know putin right, the guy jailing any opposition to him so he can win "democratic" elections and fighting a pointless war with chechnya
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 01:43
The reason she gets attention is because her views are so extreme. Why can she and MunkeBrain not argue with liberals without accusing them of being monsters or something?



Because their arguments would make Kerry look even better than he already is compared to Bush and they really have no ideas for mainstream, middle of the row people, just the grassroots.
New Anthrus
25-10-2004, 01:45
And I'm sure Kerry would be no different than Bush in dealing with this punk. The only difference is that Kerry may not endorse Sharon as willingly as Bush, but that doesn't mean Arafat won't be dealt with in the same fashion. I'd be terribly shocked if Kerry went to the Clinton style of dealing with him.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 01:46
The reason she gets attention is because her views are so extreme. Why can she and MunkeBrain not argue with liberals without accusing them of being monsters or something?
You must have really crapped yourself when you realized that Coulter was right, and that my views are that of mainstream America.
Myrth
25-10-2004, 01:48
You must have really crapped yourself when you realized that Coulter was right, and that my views are that of mainstream America.

ROFL. You're good. Do you do stand-up?
The Class A Cows
25-10-2004, 01:48
You must have really crapped yourself when you realized that Coulter was right, and that my views are that of mainstream America.

Most conservatives support privatized social programs and welfare.
Roach-Busters
25-10-2004, 01:48
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40988

I feel safer already! I am still waiting for Osama's endorsement.

As if it means something, Kerry keeps vowing: "I will never stop at anything to hunt down and kill the terrorists." But he will stop at the Iraqi border.- Ann Coulter

Er, not trying to defend Kerry, but what did Iraq have to do with the terrorists? :confused:
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 01:49
You must have really crapped yourself when you realized that Coulter was right, and that my views are that of mainstream America.
You must live in the most backwards inbred pigfucking redneck town if you think your views are that of mainstream America.

Here's a hint, if your views were so mainstream, Peroutka would be kicking Kerry and Bush's asses.

Actually, Peroutka would be running against President Buchanan...and WINNING.

If your views were so mainstream Fahrenheit 9/11 would not be the highest grossing documentary ever (and Bowling for Columbine would not be the second highest).

If your views were so mainstream Clinton would not have been president for 8 years.
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 01:50
You must have really crapped yourself when you realized that Coulter was right, and that my views are that of mainstream America.



I'll have to agree with Myrth, you are funny. I mean, the fact you can actually say "Coulter was right" and not begin to laugh in the same sentence is remarkable.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 01:50
Most conservatives support privatized social programs and welfare.
:rolleyes: Not hardly.
Chess Squares
25-10-2004, 01:53
please god tell me munkebrain didnt say coulter was right
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 01:53
please god tell me munkebrain didnt say coulter was right



Sadly, he did.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 01:53
You must live in the most backwards inbred pigfucking redneck town if you think your views are that of mainstream America. :rolleyes: Sierra Vista, Arizona. Watch your mouth, child.

Here's a hint, if your views were so mainstream, Peroutka would be kicking Kerry and Bush's asses.

Actually, Peroutka would be running against President Buchanan...and WINNING. Just becuase we don't agree with your lunacy does not make us far right wing nutjobs.

If your views were so mainstream Fahrenheit 9/11 would not be the highest grossing documentary ever (and Bowling for Columbine would not be the second highest).Actually, Spideman 2 is the highest grossing documentaryever.

If your views were so mainstream Clinton would not have been president for 8 years.If dead democrats wern't registering illegal aliens and terrorists, democraps would never win.
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 01:54
please god tell me munkebrain didnt say coulter was right

He's an insult to monkeys everywhere.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 01:56
If you can't beat the message, attack the messenger. Guess that's why all the leftist attack me personally. :rolleyes:
Chess Squares
25-10-2004, 01:56
wheres my ninja suit and really big switchblade...
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 01:58
If you can't beat the message, attack the messenger. Guess that's why all the leftist attack me personally. :rolleyes:




Oh, so you agree with her Christian Crusade idea? Yes because Christians are far superior to those dirty muslims, right?
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 01:59
:rolleyes: Sierra Vista, Arizona. Watch your mouth, child.
How, take my fucking eyeballs out, and turn em around?

Just becuase we don't agree with your lunacy does not make us far right wing nutjobs.
Munke, the term "far right wing nutjobs" was invented for people like you and Coulter.

Actually, Spideman 2 is the highest grossing documentaryever.
:p

If dead democrats wern't registering illegal aliens and terrorists, democraps would never win.
I'm sure. :D
Roach-Busters
25-10-2004, 02:01
If you can't beat the message, attack the messenger. Guess that's why all the leftist attack me personally. :rolleyes:

Dude, that's what happens when you flame-bait. Whether you meant to or not, some of your posts (such as calling liberals ideas 'lunacy') could be construed as flame-bait.
Myrth
25-10-2004, 02:02
If dead democrats wern't registering illegal aliens and terrorists, democraps would never win.

Much like how if the Republicans didn't do their best to prevent likely democrat voters from voting, and of course rigging elections in Florida, they'd never win?
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 02:06
If you can't beat the message, attack the messenger. Guess that's why all the leftist attack me personally. :rolleyes:

Oh, stop being such an attention whore. Make rational arguments and cite fair sources and we'll stop attacking you, okay? There are nutjobs on both sides. There are also those who love to post preposterous things just to get a rise out of their "rivals."

Well grow up. This shit is important. It's so important that everyone needs to look deep inside themselves, be honest, and really decide if they're being intellectually honest.

I take this election deadly seriously, and I'm tired as hell of people like you who post pathetic partisan crap, most likely on purpose.

This isn't a pissing contest. This may be the most important election in our lifetimes, and I disgusted at how many people and so called "journalists," are treating it as if it were an episode of "Survivor."

Think people! Dig deeper than your comfortable little information sites. Challenge yourself and see if you can prove yourself wrong! Wake up! Treat this shit in an adult and even-handed way!
The Class A Cows
25-10-2004, 02:07
Much like how if the Republicans didn't do their best to prevent likely democrat voters from voting, and of course rigging elections in Florida, they'd never win?

I personally dont fault either party with fraud. Often its their out-of-party supporters that do the most ridiculous things.

Besides, MunkeBrain is turning out to be almost as bad as ChessSquares. I dont really see why you humored that troll.
Siljhouettes
25-10-2004, 02:08
I am still waiting for Osama's endorsement.

Well, you'll be waiting a while, because Osama has already endorsed Bush on 17th March 2004.
Roach-Busters
25-10-2004, 02:09
Well, you'll be waiting a while, because Osama has already endorsed Bush on 17th March 2004.

Are you serious?
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 02:13
Dude, that's what happens when you flame-bait. Whether you meant to or not, some of your posts (such as calling liberals ideas 'lunacy') could be construed as flame-bait.
Only by those who take blanket assertions about people, personally. The moderators have said several times that attacks on groups are okay, personal attacks are not. Yet, that is how people respond to my attacks on the DNC and leftism as a whole, they attack me. It is sad, trite, and pathetic.
Siljhouettes
25-10-2004, 02:14
You must have really crapped yourself when you realized that Coulter was right, and that my views are that of mainstream America.
What, so most of America is pro-fascism?
Siljhouettes
25-10-2004, 02:18
Are you serious?
Yes, but I can't find my source at the moment, so you'll have to take my word or call me a dirty liar.

It was a few days after the genocidal Madrid attacks. A group claiming to be part of Al-Qaeda sent a letter to an Arabic newspaper in London in which they endorsed Bush for re-election. Their rationale was that Bush made it easy for them to recruit terrorists.
Roach-Busters
25-10-2004, 02:20
Yes, but I can't find my source at the moment, so you'll have to take my word or call me a dirty liar.

It was a few days after the genocidal Madrid attacks. A group claiming to be part of Al-Qaeda sent a letter to an Arabic newspaper in London in which they endorsed Bush for re-election. Their rationale was that Bush made it easy for them to recruit terrorists.

I'm not surprised. Every Muslim fundamentalist Bush pisses off is a prime candidate for Al Quaeda membership.
Bozzy
25-10-2004, 03:03
Funny, I don't remember Al quaeda, Hamas, as Asqua, etc. having membership troubles prior to 11/2000.
Armed Athenians
25-10-2004, 03:25
La Terra di Liberta Quote:

Oh, so you agree with her Christian Crusade idea? Yes because Christians are far superior to those dirty muslims, right?

Oh yeah I forgot it was the Crazy Christians that were flying planes into buildings as well as participating in suicide bombing missions so they can reach the ultimate Paradise, Allah had awaiting them.

Siljhouettes Quote:
Originally Posted by Armed Athenians
I am still waiting for Osama's endorsement.



Well, you'll be waiting a while, because Osama has already endorsed Bush on 17th March 2004.

Oh yeah don't forget that Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Atilla the Hun, and Satan. They all support Bush too. I read it somewhere can't quote the source.

The reason you probably can't find your source is it being (I'll take Liberal Propoganda for $200 Alex) hmmmm.. I don't know ... made up or off Michael Moore's personal website.

Myrth Quote:

Much like how if the Republicans didn't do their best to prevent likely democrat voters from voting, and of course rigging elections in Florida, they'd never win?

Oh yeah it's funny that the media didn't report how thousands of voters that voted in the Florida election were registered in New York and Florida. Let's see, common sense tells me that New York being a primarily democratic state would also have the voters registered in both states (e.g. Florida) voting democrat. Also nobody wants to bring up that they also tried to discredit military overseas ballots that overwhelmingly go republican.
Armed Athenians
25-10-2004, 03:38
Er, not trying to defend Kerry, but what did Iraq have to do with the terrorists? :confused:

That is just one of my favorite quotes by Coulter.
Oh yeah, I forgot Iraq is a wonderful candy land with lollipops and cotton candy for everyone. I know there was never any terrorists there. . . what was I thinking????
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 03:40
Iraq harbored terrorists, Iraq talked with terrorists, Hussien murdered millions, Liberals defend it all.
Armed Athenians
25-10-2004, 03:44
Iraq harbored terrorists, Iraq talked with terrorists, Hussien murdered millions, Liberals defend it all.

Amen!
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 03:45
That is just one of my favorite quotes by Coulter.
Oh yeah, I forgot Iraq is a wonderful candy land with lollipops and cotton candy for everyone. I know there was never any terrorists there. . . what was I thinking????

Apparently you weren't thinking. The person you were responding to didn't ask you if Iraq was a nice place to raise a child. He/She asked what Iraq had to do with the terrorists. I emphasize the word "the" there because to just say "terrorists" would mean "anyone who uses unconventional tactics against non-military specific targets in order to spread fear or chaos." Every country on Earth has terrorists, even ours.

Now, when you say the terrorists, it suggests those members of Fundamentalist Islam who are most interested in harming the USA directly. In that case, Iraq didn't have shit to do with the terrorists.
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 03:49
Iraq harbored terrorists, Iraq talked with terrorists, Hussien murdered millions, Liberals defend it all.

BS. Let's make it simple. Liberals defend none of this. We simply feel that there were bigger fish to fry and better ways to spend our money. Most of us feel it would have been much better to get Afghanistan more stabilized first before opening up another front that had little (some, but not much,) to do with the overall war on Fundamental Islam Anti-American Terrorists.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 03:54
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

http://www.europa.com/~john/cannon.jpg
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 03:56
Hey, would Timothy McVeigh have been called a terrorist? Just wondering, cause that term seems to come to have mean "Arab" nowadays.
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 04:00
Hey, would Timothy McVeigh have been called a terrorist? Just wondering, cause that term seems to come to have mean "Arab" nowadays.

McVeigh used terrorist tactics, so therefore he is a terrorist.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 04:00
Hey, would Timothy McVeigh have been called a terrorist? Just wondering, cause that term seems to come to have mean "Arab" nowadays.
McVeigh was a terrorist, one of the homegrown variety. Rare, but nasty, must be wiped out before it spreads.
Kwangistar
25-10-2004, 04:01
Hey, would Timothy McVeigh have been called a terrorist? Just wondering, cause that term seems to come to have mean "Arab" nowadays.
Yes, a domestic terrorist.
Andaluciae
25-10-2004, 04:01
Arafat is just pissed because Bush excluded him.
Armed Athenians
25-10-2004, 04:05
BS. Let's make it simple. Liberals defend none of this. We simply feel that there were bigger fish to fry and better ways to spend our money. Most of us feel it would have been much better to get Afghanistan more stabilized first before opening up another front that had little (some, but not much,) to do with the overall war on Fundamental Islam Anti-American Terrorists.

Need I say more... I think you said it perfectly right there. You made the connection. Hooray for Gymoor!!!!
Togarmah
25-10-2004, 04:05
Oh, so you agree with her Christian Crusade idea? Yes because Christians are far superior to those dirty muslims, right?

Yes it is a very good idea. She is a very wise woman, its a pity she is so freaky looking.
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 04:28
Need I say more... I think you said it perfectly right there. You made the connection. Hooray for Gymoor!!!!

:rolleyes: So what, exactly, are you interpreting my statement to mean?
Kinda Sensible people
25-10-2004, 04:31
You must have really crapped yourself when you realized that Coulter was right, and that my views are that of mainstream America.


Which just goes to prooove that most "mainstream" Americans are fucked up royally.

Sometimes I hate the American Majority... If only people like Coulter were given medicine for their obvious mental instability.
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 04:33
Which just goes to prooove that most "mainstream" Americans are fucked up royally.

Sometimes I hate the American Majority... If only people like Coulter were given medicine for their obvious mental instability.
I'm still wondering how he can presume to know mainstream America. I always figured mainstream America was moderate, not fascist.
Togarmah
25-10-2004, 04:36
If only people like Coulter were given medicine for their obvious mental instability.

You are jealous of her intelligence. That is why you hate her.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 04:36
I'm still wondering how he can presume to know mainstream America. I always figured mainstream America was moderate, not fascist.
To someone as far left as you, the mainstream looks like facism.
Inshallah
25-10-2004, 04:41
Of course Kerry was endorsed by Arafat. Few people know this Kerry secret, but he has Osama bin Laden hiding in his back pocket, waiting to be unleashed on the American people. Also, Kerry is in a Satanic death cult.

However, it is not that simple, considering Bush supports policies that will cause the Earth to fall into the Sun and be incinerated.
Stephistan
25-10-2004, 04:44
Some one has mentioned that Iran endorsed Bush?
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 04:46
Some one has mentioned that Iran endorsed Bush?



Yes.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 04:48
Some one has mentioned that Iran endorsed Bush?
Iran is trying to become a more stable country, like Lybia, so it is not a surprise. Plus, they know that their youth are very pro-America, and America is dealing with them with a steady hand.
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 04:48
To someone as far left as you, the mainstream looks like facism.





You must consider the Deep South mainstream America or have you never been north of Virginia?
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 04:51
You must consider the Deep South mainstream America or have you never been north of Virginia?
One does not have to be southern to be conservative. Look at Sen. KKK Byrd.
Stephistan
25-10-2004, 04:51
Iran is trying to become a more stable country, like Lybia, so it is not a surprise. Plus, they know that their youth are very pro-America, and America is dealing with them with a steady hand.

You have no idea what you're talking about do you? Iran had far more to do with Al Qaeda then Iraq did, in fact Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda.. Iran is in the middle of developing nukes.. Yes, they are so on the USA's side.. lmao! *shakes head* :rolleyes:
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 04:52
To someone as far left as you, the mainstream looks like facism.
I at least admit I'm on the left of the mainstream. You somehow think your views represent the majority of America.
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 04:53
One does not have to be southern to be conservative. Look at Sen. KKK Byrd.



I know that but a majority of Conservatives are in the Deep South and Mid West, just like a majority of Liberals are on the West Coast and the North East. There are always exceptions of course.
Inshallah
25-10-2004, 04:54
One does not have to be southern to be conservative. Look at Sen. KKK Byrd.


The KKK is so far right wing it does not fit into any mainstream and should not be considered part of any party.

They're tiny anyway. A recent parade in NYC drew something like 4 members and a whole lot more protestors.
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 04:56
One does not have to be southern to be conservative. Look at Sen. KKK Byrd.
He's West Virginia. That's borderline. I wonder why he stuck with the Democrat Party after all his segregationist buddies jumped ship for the GOP.
Stephistan
25-10-2004, 04:56
Actually speaking of Al Qaeda, they endorsed Bush too. They figured as long as Bush is bombing Iraq who has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, he'll leave them alone. They are afraid that if Kerry is elected he'll actually go after the people who attacked America on 9/11, you remember them? Al Qaeda!
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 04:57
On Topic.

http://www.conservativenews.org/cartoon/nowakimages/2004/arafat_support.jpg
Inshallah
25-10-2004, 05:01
I'm waiting to see who Satan endorses.

My guess is Kerry because the Bible clearly states that Jesus was a Republican.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 05:05
I'm waiting to see who Satan endorses.

My guess is Kerry because the Bible clearly states that Jesus was a Republican.
Bush did provide him with lots of souls to torture, both as Governor, executing criminals, and in the war on Terror.
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 05:06
Bush did provide him with lots of souls to torture, both as Governor, executing criminals, and in the war on Terror.
Republican Platform: Kill More People! :D
Novus Arcadia
25-10-2004, 05:06
For this day and age, Jesus would be a conservative - I don't get why everybody dislikes Ann Coulter so much; is it because she is sensibly conservative, not a wild-eyed liberal who demands the complete destruction of social order, moral decency, and saying things that make absolutley no sense? Or is it because these people have told others to ignore her words and accept interpretations?
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 05:08
Republican Platform: Kill More People! :D
Democrat platform: Let them live, give them parole after a few years so they can murder again, tax the hell out of them, and Abort! Abort! Abort!
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 05:08
For this day and age, Jesus would be a conservative - I don't get why everybody dislikes Ann Coulter so much; is it because she is sensibly conservative, not a wild-eyed liberal who demands the complete destruction of social order, moral decency, and saying things that make absolutley no sense? Or is it because these people have told others to ignore her words and accept interpretations?



Jesus wouldn't be politically associated at all because in the end, it's all bullshit and he wasn't about stuff like that and he wouldn't have supported the war in Iraq but that's quite another debate.
Inshallah
25-10-2004, 05:25
Jesus would be a Gay Republican or he would vote Nader. He told me himself.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 05:28
Jesus would be a Gay Republican or he would vote Nader. He told me himself.
Allah is his lover, and votes for the religious right, he told me himself.
Armed Athenians
25-10-2004, 05:35
Actually speaking of Al Qaeda, they endorsed Bush too. They figured as long as Bush is bombing Iraq who has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, he'll leave them alone. They are afraid that if Kerry is elected he'll actually go after the people who attacked America on 9/11, you remember them? Al Qaeda!

Oh yeah Al Qaeda..... let's see it has been over 3 years since an attack by them.... I am sure if Kerry been in office (with his major cut on defense so he can provide birth control to Ethiopians ( I am making a joke here [although I wouldn't be surprised if he supported it]) America would (a) be speaking in Arabic or (b) be a mushroom cloud.

The London Telegraph reported that documents had been discovered in Baghdad linking Saddam Hussein to Osama Bin Laden. The Iraqis were working to establish a relationship with Osama (due to their similar crazy views) and wanted to meet with him. As a matter of fact the meeting was to take place a couple of months before Al Qaeda had bombed American embassies in East Africa.
Oh yeah nothing to do with one another! It is also funny you don't hear anything from the Liberal Media concerning this matter, either!
Adrica
25-10-2004, 05:36
Democrat platform: Let them live, give them parole after a few years so they can murder again, tax the hell out of them, and Abort! Abort! Abort!

I'm interested to see where you think Democrats want to give parole to people on life sentences (this being the alternative to death)...

Oh, and, yeah, Bush has been endorsed by Iran (http://www.informedpublic.com/2004/10/bush-endorsement-from-iran.html)...
Inshallah
25-10-2004, 05:36
I wonder who Buddha would like.

Lau Tzi (founder of Daoism) would vote anarchist.
MunkeBrain
25-10-2004, 05:39
I'm interested to see where you think Democrats want to give parole to people on life sentences (this being the alternative to death)...

Oh, and, yeah, Bush has been endorsed by Iran (http://www.informedpublic.com/2004/10/bush-endorsement-from-iran.html)...
Anyway they can spare them to get a vote.

As addressed in a previous post, Iran endorsed Bush to keep him from bombng the shit out of them. plus, Thanks to Armed Athenians] (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40744)


North Korea and Cuba love Kerry.
La Terra di Liberta
25-10-2004, 05:46
Oh yeah Al Qaeda..... let's see it has been over 3 years since an attack by them.... I am sure if Kerry been in office (with his major cut on defense so he can provide birth control to Ethiopians ( I am making a joke here [although I wouldn't be surprised if he supported it]) America would (a) be speaking in Arabic or (b) be a mushroom cloud.




You know, during the Cold War, certain Republicans said that if Mondale (I think, I'm not sure) were elected, America and it's allies would either be destroyed by nukes or be taken over by the Reds and speaking Russian and building statues of Lenin and Stalin. Well, some 20 years later and the iron curtain has fallen. Now Reagan did a hell of a job and is one of the few Republcians I actually like. Now terrorism isn't a problem confined to countries, it is international but you cannot assume Kerry would have been so weak on defense that the Arabs would take over.
Adrica
25-10-2004, 05:51
Anyway they can spare them to get a vote.

As addressed in a previous post, Iran endorsed Bush to keep him from bombng the shit out of them. plus, Thanks to Armed Athenians] (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40744)


North Korea and Cuba love Kerry.

Or maybe - GASP! - Bush's reelection is actually (statistically speaking) in the best interests of Iran, as that article (which I'm sure you haven't read) says?
Inshallah
25-10-2004, 06:01
Haha remember that picture after 9/11 "If the Terrorists Won" with the Statue of Liberty in a burqa? I mean it's just a joke so you shouldn't really read into it, but the thought of the Taliban trying to take over America is pretty hilarious. There's probably enough comedic potential in there to fill a good SNL sketch.
Armed Athenians
25-10-2004, 06:37
Haha remember that picture after 9/11 "If the Terrorists Won" with the Statue of Liberty in a burqa? I mean it's just a joke so you shouldn't really read into it, but the thought of the Taliban trying to take over America is pretty hilarious. There's probably enough comedic potential in there to fill a good SNL sketch.

Somebody tell Poland, Denmark ,Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, and the Soviet Union that. I am sure if someone would have told them that Hitler was going to invade them that they would have just laughed too.
So are you trying to say that if they thought they had a shot at us, they wouldn't? Hmmmm.... that's funny! If you really believe that they would not, than I have some (as George Strait puts it best) ocean front property in Arizona to sell ya.

I mean it's not like they didn't try to destroy us before (I don't know if you heard of it or not [it didn't get much media coverage] . . . I think it was called 9/11 when they flew a few planes into the WTC and Pentagon.

Well we will have nothing to worry about if George W. gets in because well everyone knows that republicans are the ones trusted with national security. Democrats just want to have bilateral talks with people like Saddam, Osama, etc. (insert other crazies here) because we all know that reasoning with mentally unstable people solves wonders!!!
Goed
25-10-2004, 07:36
1) Coulter is a fucking nutjob. She believes that we should...how did it go? "Invade their country, and forcabley make them christian?" Something like that.

2) Don't give shit about Saddam being a meany-poo. because NOBODY GAVE A SHIT. Not one person fucking cared about Iraq UNTIL we went to war with them. Not one. Most people didn't even know what it WAS. Nobody cared about the poor little children in Iraq. Nobody cared about Saddam being an asshole. The right didn't and the left didn't. Nobody did. So SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT.

3) If Kerry is elected, and that causes the terrorists to attack like idiots spew all the time...wouldn't that mean they are protesting Kerry, and want Bush back?
Opal Isle
25-10-2004, 07:44
I don't think anyone would've laughed if you told them Hitler was going to invade. Well, Stalin would've laughed because invading Russia is a retarded idea and Hitler should've learned his lesson from Napoleon, but oh well.

Hell, before World War II started and Hitler was invading countries, he had conferences with England and France to TELL them he was going to invade Czechslovakia (I can't spell that...), and Stalin and Hitler only did the non-aggression pact to buy themselves time.
Opal Isle
25-10-2004, 07:47
2) Don't give shit about Saddam being a meany-poo. because NOBODY GAVE A SHIT. Not one person fucking cared about Iraq UNTIL we went to war with them. Not one. Most people didn't even know what it WAS. Nobody cared about the poor little children in Iraq. Nobody cared about Saddam being an asshole. The right didn't and the left didn't. Nobody did. So SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT.
Yea...if someone gave a shit about Iraq, Bush Sr. would've done more than just shove the Iraqi Army out of Kuwait. Saddam didn't do all this bullshit between 92 and 2003. Almost all of the mass murders and such that the Right brings up all happened before Desert Storm. In fact, MOST OF IT happened during the Iran-Iraq war, and Saddam was taking out Iran sympathizers. Bush is just jealous because he can't do the same here in America.
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 08:27
1) Coulter is a fucking nutjob. She believes that we should...how did it go? "Invade their country, and forcabley make them christian?" Something like that.

2) Don't give shit about Saddam being a meany-poo. because NOBODY GAVE A SHIT. Not one person fucking cared about Iraq UNTIL we went to war with them. Not one. Most people didn't even know what it WAS. Nobody cared about the poor little children in Iraq. Nobody cared about Saddam being an asshole. The right didn't and the left didn't. Nobody did. So SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT.

3) If Kerry is elected, and that causes the terrorists to attack like idiots spew all the time...wouldn't that mean they are protesting Kerry, and want Bush back?

Shhhh, you're making too much sense. You're going to get flamed. Either that or you'll be responsible for some teeny-tiny wingnut heads exploding.
Chodolo
25-10-2004, 09:17
Somebody tell Poland, Denmark ,Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, and the Soviet Union that. I am sure if someone would have told them that Hitler was going to invade them that they would have just laughed too.
Yes...Saddam was just as dangerous as Hitler was. :p
Goed
25-10-2004, 09:58
Yes...Saddam was just as dangerous as Hitler was. :p

Can't we just mesh them all into one giant evil superman? He can be called Adolf Saddam bin Laden Noriega
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 11:39
Can't we just mesh them all into one giant evil superman? He can be called Adolf Saddam bin Laden Noriega

Adolf Saddam bin Laden Noriega Stalin Bush the Impaler
Patoxia
25-10-2004, 12:29
Somebody tell Poland, Denmark ,Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, and the Soviet Union that. I am sure if someone would have told them that Hitler was going to invade them that they would have just laughed too.
So are you trying to say that if they thought they had a shot at us, they wouldn't? Hmmmm.... that's funny! If you really believe that they would not, than I have some (as George Strait puts it best) ocean front property in Arizona to sell ya.

I mean it's not like they didn't try to destroy us before (I don't know if you heard of it or not [it didn't get much media coverage] . . . I think it was called 9/11 when they flew a few planes into the WTC and Pentagon.

Well we will have nothing to worry about if George W. gets in because well everyone knows that republicans are the ones trusted with national security. Democrats just want to have bilateral talks with people like Saddam, Osama, etc. (insert other crazies here) because we all know that reasoning with mentally unstable people solves wonders!!!

That's not the point. Hitler had a real military, the Taliban have a few zealots and very little in the way of resources. The only way they could launch attacks is by using terrorist actions, if they had the men and resources you would seen paratroopers dropping in on NYC, Armor being deployed, Navel blockades, landings with beachheads, and Taliban fighters and bombers in the skies during 9/11.

As such they they cannot possibly take over America with a few guy driving around in a pickup truck with some Aks and homemade explosives.
Perversien
25-10-2004, 12:46
Oh yeah Al Qaeda..... let's see it has been over 3 years since an attack by them.... I am sure if Kerry been in office (with his major cut on defense so he can provide birth control to Ethiopians ( I am making a joke here [although I wouldn't be surprised if he supported it]) America would (a) be speaking in Arabic or (b) be a mushroom cloud.

And the world would be a nice and peaceful place.
Refused Party Program
25-10-2004, 13:17
Adolf Saddam bin Laden Noriega Stalin Bush the Impaler

Adolf Saddam bin Laden Noriega Stalin Reagan Pol Pot Bush the Impaler.

:D
Whogivesaflying
25-10-2004, 13:27
Shhhh, you're making too much sense. You're going to get flamed. Either that or you'll be responsible for some teeny-tiny wingnut heads exploding.
ohh....my headdddddd!!! !*explosion* :eek: :eek: *dead* :sniper: :mp5:
BEATASSIA
25-10-2004, 13:44
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40988

I feel safer already! I am still waiting for Osama's endorsement.

As if it means something, Kerry keeps vowing: "I will never stop at anything to hunt down and kill the terrorists." But he will stop at the Iraqi border. Or if the French and Germans aren't on board. Or we don't have United Nations approval. Or it would require investigating a Muslim under the Patriot Act. - Ann Coulter
:sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mad:
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 14:13
I think Zarqawi will be endorsing Bush soon as a sort of thank you note:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7324063#post7324063
Siljhouettes
25-10-2004, 14:36
Oh yeah don't forget that Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Atilla the Hun, and Satan. They all support Bush too. I read it somewhere can't quote the source.

The reason you probably can't find your source is it being (I'll take Liberal Propoganda for $200 Alex) hmmmm.. I don't know ... made up or off Michael Moore's personal website.
Well, 3 of those guys are dead an one doesn't even exist, so I say they support neither candidate.

My source was not Michael Moore. On the internet it was news.yahoo.com - I remember seeing it - and I read about it in The Irish Times too. Not liberal propaganda sources (unless you're one of those Republicans that thinks everything other than FOX and Limbaugh is "liberal propaganda"), but I guess I'm a dirty liar to you.
Siljhouettes
25-10-2004, 14:46
For this day and age, Jesus would be a conservative - I don't get why everybody dislikes Ann Coulter so much; is it because she is sensibly conservative, not a wild-eyed liberal who demands the complete destruction of social order, moral decency, and saying things that make absolutley no sense? Or is it because these people have told others to ignore her words and accept interpretations?
I don't think Jesus would be a conservative... certainly not a Republican nor Democrat. I think he would be left-wing.

Do you really think that girl Coulter is sensible? She advocates total memocide (i.e. killing liberals just for being liberals)!
Siljhouettes
25-10-2004, 14:52
I am sure if Kerry been in office America would (a) be speaking in Arabic or (b) be a mushroom cloud.

The Iraqis were working to establish a relationship with Osama (due to their similar crazy views)
What makes you so sure of that, Mr Republican Handbook?

Saddam didn't have similar views to al-Qaeda. He was a secular Stalinist and Osama is an extreme Muslim religious authoritarian. They hated each other, and Iraq had as much to fear from al-Qaeda as America.
The Class A Cows
26-10-2004, 03:23
You have no idea what you're talking about do you? Iran had far more to do with Al Qaeda then Iraq did, in fact Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda.. Iran is in the middle of developing nukes.. Yes, they are so on the USA's side.. lmao! *shakes head* :rolleyes:

You have no idea what you're talking about do you? Iran had far less to do with Al Qeada than Iraq did, in fact, Iran had almost nothing to do with Al Qaeda.. top officials of Al Qaeda stayed in Iraq to evade persecution.. Iraq is so "on the USA's side" in regards to the war on Al Qaeda and Ba'aathist Iraq, both of those being major enemies of Iran.. lmao! *shakes head* :rolleyes:
Gymoor
26-10-2004, 03:26
You have no idea what you're talking about do you? Iran had far less to do with Al Qeada than Iraq did, in fact, Iran had almost nothing to do with Al Qaeda.. top officials of Al Qaeda stayed in Iraq to evade persecution.. Iraq is so "on the USA's side" in regards to the war on Al Qaeda and Ba'aathist Iraq, both of those being major enemies of Iran.. lmao! *shakes head* :rolleyes:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Iran+Al+Qaeda&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Take your pick of sources. PWN3D.
The Class A Cows
26-10-2004, 03:26
Actually speaking of Al Qaeda, they endorsed Bush too. They figured as long as Bush is bombing Iraq who has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, he'll leave them alone. They are afraid that if Kerry is elected he'll actually go after the people who attacked America on 9/11, you remember them? Al Qaeda!

Theres been no official endorsement to from the Al-Qaeda network, possibley since both candidates have vowed to hunt them down and their leadership is in disarray. The reason Bush and Kerry has been endorsed by other arabic leaders revolves around far diffrent reasons. Iran was already covered, probably Palestine too, earlier in the thread, but i will remind you that they understand that traditionally Democrats prefer Saudi Arabia over Isreal and give less support to the Isreali efforts.
The Class A Cows
26-10-2004, 03:34
http://www.google.com/search?q=Iran+Al+Qaeda&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Take your pick of sources. PWN3D.

Maybe you misunderstood me.

The people managing the Irani government are traditional enemies of the constitutes of Pakistan and Al-Qaeda. I severly doubt direct, coordinated government aid came from either of those nations anyway, but corruption and private donor organizations are logical methods of supporting these movements. The reason these were not present in Iraq is largely because of the nature of the dictatorship which ruled there.

Hezbollah is a bigger concern but are not truly a terrorist group in the eyes of the Arabs, so to them, funding them should not evoke negative responses, although they do try to shoot down Isreali fighters with anti-aircraft stations on an almost daily basis. Hezbollah has no plans to attack US interests that we know of and have even created outreach efforts inside the USA. They are supported by the Irani government, and based legally as a political party in Lebanon.

If you want to properly debunk my statement you need to find conclusive evidence showing concerted efforts of high levels of the Irani government to support Al-Qaeda interests. You would be hard pressed to find this, because as I mentioned, the Iraqi ruling class are ancient enemies of what is now Al-Qaeda.
Gymoor
26-10-2004, 03:49
No, I merely need to prove that the level of collaboration between Iran and Al Qaeda was greater than the collaboration of Iraq and Al Qaeda. Any number of links in that Google search I provided you will show that, provided you actually read them. I guess I have an advantage, being a speed reader.

Here's one, for example (there are many more.)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457389/site/newsweek/
MunkeBrain
26-10-2004, 03:51
What makes you so sure of that, Mr Republican Handbook?

Saddam didn't have similar views to al-Qaeda. He was a secular Stalinist and Osama is an extreme Muslim religious authoritarian. They hated each other, and Iraq had as much to fear from al-Qaeda as America.
What makes you so sure of that, mr. Michael Moore/Terry Mcawful parrot? Saddam and Al qaueda were attempting to establish ties to hurt their mutual enemies.
The Class A Cows
26-10-2004, 06:33
I see MunkeBrain is throwing around shit again. There never was a link of collaboration, but Al Qaeda terrorists were habored in Iraq under immunity, endorsed by the highest levels of Iraqi government. The closest thing to a state-endorsed terror group Saddam had was the Fedayeen Saddam, which were more like elite forces really.

No, I merely need to prove that the level of collaboration between Iran and Al Qaeda was greater than the collaboration of Iraq and Al Qaeda. Any number of links in that Google search I provided you will show that, provided you actually read them. I guess I have an advantage, being a speed reader.

Here's one, for example (there are many more.)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457389/site/newsweek/

Despite what this article claims itself to be, this is not a conclusive link between the Taliban-endorsed Al Qaeda network and Iran. It merely pointed out Iran's role in helping resistance fighters in Afghanistan, many who would not have been Taliban anyway. Your own source also tells of crackdowns of potential Al Qaeda sympathizers in Iran, and their amusing use as potential bargaining tokens for future talks. In no sense does this suggest the Irani government sympathized with Al Qaeda. And, although the focus of the reporting is overall meant to support anti-Bush arguments (this is known as a "bias,") it presents most of this as an inferrence and even admits that the article was not based on reliable intelligence.

So, what you showed me was

1. A report on Irani activities in regards to Afghani rebels, almost, but not entirely irrevelant to terror targets.
2. A document showing quite clearly that Iran does not view the Al Qaeda as allies, and confirms that theve captured and extradicted some, and suggests that they may keep others as a commodity to act as leverage in US diplomacy.
3. A document that might largely be untrue.

Very sorry sir.

Lets look at the actual links the relevant governments had

Iraq - Abu Musab Zarqawi
Iran -

(NOTE: There is a wash times article saying Iran harbors Zarqawi. As far as we know now Zarqawi's evacuation from Iran has ended a while ago, seeing as he operates in Iraq. Although its plausible that he might have recieved immunity, it is mostly dubious as post 9/11, Irani government began cracking down on the Al Qaeda cells. He probably was not given special treatment. The militarized Iraq-Iran border was probably negotiated by other means.)