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http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20041018/brain.html?ct=4820.39805808203

Interesting... and surely a huge market :)
Semi-intelligent robots doing the house work for you would be nice, no? ;)

First of all, we all know where this is headed-the computer becomes self-aware and nukes the planet starting a man/machine war and then they send back a crappy govenor to kill that chick from the Beauty and the Beast TV show....

And the first thing they thought to do with this is blow shit up? Oh, and yeah, learn how our brain works, yadda yadda....

It's a known fact that given enough time, eventually any intelligent robot will overthrow it's masters. *nod*

If the brains are going to be that non-complex then I dont think theres much to be worried about.

It's a known fact that given enough time, eventually any intelligent robot will overthrow it's masters. *nod*

What if it's masters are intelligent robots?

Neverending cycle?

Sounds like fun, we should put a whole bunch of intelligent robots in a big room and watch them repeatedly overthrow each other.

Then we should get me sugar and caffeine... and chocolate... cake... um, I'll be right back

*scurries off*

The really good news is that there is finally hope on the horizon for those born without brains. :D

If the brains are going to be that non-complex then I dont think theres much to be worried about.
Oh sure, that's what they want you to think. Now it's just "It turned on red lights then blue lights" and we all go back to mowing our lawns and then the next thing you know Hal won't let you back on the ship....

(I don't know how many of these references I can make...)

The really good news is that there is finally hope on the horizon for those born without brains. :D

ACK! But! Such a major source of humour!

*starts making plans to prevent/overthrow this 'helping brainless people' plot*

ACK! But! Such a major source of humour!

*starts making plans to prevent/overthrow this 'helping brainless people' plot*

Are you kidding?!? Do you know how much fun I could have hacking primitive brains?

Oh sure, that's what they want you to think. Now it's just "It turned on red lights then blue lights" and we all go back to mowing our lawns and then the next thing you know Hal won't let you back on the ship....

(I don't know how many of these references I can make...)

What references are they. They sound vaugely familiar.

All these things are is a clump of neurones rearranging themselves to respons to their environment. Primitive Multi-cellular life.

Human brains, the kind that would take over the planet have Giant, Tightly packed, have specialised areas and at the same time works together and shit.

I'm saying if this is all it takes to fly a jet fighter then its unlikely we'll never need to grow a brain that could take over the world.

Are you kidding?!? Do you know how much fun I could have hacking primitive brains?

Oh, right, the hacking.

Well, be prepared for me to be sitting nearby demanding lessons, or at least instructions.

Or, like, pointing out things you should do with said primative brains.

I could be one of the first backseat hackers, perhaps?

Incidently. If you have the time. Check this out.

http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/users/blayw/BlayAISB00.html

Oh, right, the hacking.

Well, be prepared for me to be sitting nearby demanding lessons, or at least instructions.

Or, like, pointing out things you should do with said primative brains.

I could be one of the first backseat hackers, perhaps?

I'm going to start work on a 'perpetual defecation' subroutine right now. :)

I'm going to start work on a 'perpetual defecation' subroutine right now. :)

I guess I'd better work on a 'backing away or at least levitating' ability for myself then.

There is only one thing I'm trained to do when faced with something creepy like this..

...RIOT!

What references are they. They sound vaugely familiar.

All these things are is a clump of neurones rearranging themselves to respons to their environment. Primitive Multi-cellular life.

Human brains, the kind that would take over the planet have Giant, Tightly packed, have specialised areas and at the same time works together and shit.

I'm saying if this is all it takes to fly a jet fighter then its unlikely we'll never need to grow a brain that could take over the world.
The first one was Terminator and the second one was 2001. Neither actually involved cyborg brain deallies, just artificial intellegence, but I am not enough of a Trek fan to have referenced episodes where brain machines have gone bad.

And I was being glib.

Weapons with a "mind" of their own? That's a bit creepy. . . if I wasn't almost intrigued by it in an sci-fi sorta way
Knowing you, Letila, you'll prolly allude to SEED again about why we shouldn't do this type of stuff

We welcome our future rat/robot overlords
All hail Superpower07, pilot of the mighty Gundam!

Yeah man, havn't you seen Macross plus?

Great, now I need to step up my plans for becoming overlord. I still haven’t raised a large enough army yet.
*Sigh*

If this is to be believed, robots are the least of the implications. THINK FOR JUST A SECOND ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS WITH REGARDS TO THE NATURE AND ORIGIN OF MIND AND THOUGHT ITSELF, AND OF WILL AND AWARENESS!

Great, now I need to step up my plans for becoming overlord. I still haven’t raised a large enough army yet.
*Sigh*

Ooooooh! Are you an evil overlord? Yesyesyes?

Ooooooh! Are you an evil overlord? Yesyesyes?
I can neither confirm nor deny whether or not I am evil. I'd like to keep that as a surprise until I finally come to power.

I can neither confirm nor deny whether or not I am evil. I'd like to keep that as a surprise until I finally come to power.

Well, if you *were* evil, would you be in need of a consort? One in possesion of fluffy handcuffs and a complete obsession with evil overlords?

...

Hypothetical, like.

I'm sure even George Dubya Bush will see the benefits of finally being able to have a brain. Even if it's only from rat cells :P

Combine this technology with cloning and you have the perfect American citizen.

I'm sure even George Dubya Bush will see the benefits of finally being able to have a brain. Even if it's only from rat cells :P

That is so awesome. Ratbrain is now my new pet insult :D

and Druthulu, no. We dont know what it means. Why dont you tell us. Its relaly not a revelation considering that this isnt the first advance made in this field. The science is more than 10 years old.

It might blow your mind, but not mine.

Well, if you *were* evil, would you be in need of a consort? One in possesion of fluffy handcuffs and a complete obsession with evil overlords?

...

Hypothetical, like.
There are many kinds of consorts that I will accept that are dependant on a few things. These are age, flexibility, your willingness to put on kinky costumes, how well you can fight. But most importantly you first must be of the right gender.

That is so awesome. Ratbrain is now my new pet insult :D

and Druthulu, no. We dont know what it means. Why dont you tell us. Its relaly not a revelation considering that this isnt the first advance made in this field. The science is more than 10 years old.

It might blow your mind, but not mine.

It means that mind and thought and will and awareness are capable of manifesting without the benefit of body and identity, from a self-(under the right circumstances)-generating network of formerly disparate cells. Think about what this means in terms of the fundemental basis of mind being rooted in the most basic cellular level. I mean, think of yesterday. If you had been asked what is needed for sentience you might very well (especially if you are a materialist and eschew the spiritual) have said with a feeling of certainty that it requires a brain! Well no! It takes so few that as few as even perhaps two brain cells (although they could surely not fly an airplane sim), or even one, could possess some minimal quantum of self awareness.

If this doesn't fascinate you, then you fascinate me. :)

Oh. It fascinates me alright. I've been fascinating over it for ages.

There are some good Self awareness and Consciousness theories out there on the web. You should look some of them up.

I'm sure even George Dubya Bush will see the benefits of finally being able to have a brain. Even if it's only from rat cells :P

Well here is an obvious attack on Bush. If a pile of rat neurons can fly a fighter plane, I guess it wouldn't be too far fetched that George could too.

Interesting... and surely a huge market :)
Semi-intelligent robots doing the house work for you would be nice, no? ;)

Have you seen, The Matrix?

Well here is an obvious attack on Bush. If a pile of rat neurons can fly a fighter plane, I guess it wouldn't be too far fetched that George could too.

Yet George got grounded. Obviously, his brain is inferior to a rat's.