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Ann Coulter creamed!

Pie Sniper
23-10-2004, 07:06
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/3841599/detail.html

Another one bites the dust! I'm still looking for video.
Lunatic Goofballs
23-10-2004, 07:09
YAY! :D

Nothing makes me happier than political pieings. :D
MKULTRA
23-10-2004, 07:10
thats excellent--its too bad the pies didnt have bricks in them tho
New Kanteletar
23-10-2004, 07:10
Pie assassins rule. The only person I'd really like to see get pied is the president (this one or any other, just THE president). I don't think it'll ever happen though. If someone tried to pull it off, they'd probably go down in a hail of Secret Service bullets.
New Astrolia
23-10-2004, 07:10
Isn't she dead yet?
MKULTRA
23-10-2004, 07:16
the pie throwers should stalk this witch whereas she shows her mannish face :D
Cannot think of a name
23-10-2004, 07:18
This kind of thing plays into her hands, she no doubt views the attack as validation of everything she stands for. The best is to ignore her (or compare her to Michael Moore, that sets her off...) or continue to point out how dumb her arguments are.
New Astrolia
23-10-2004, 07:19
I think this whole affair is tacky. If you cant hit someone in the head. Dont bother.

If you hit the body ionstead it just seems mean spirited.
Chodolo
23-10-2004, 07:21
Surprised it wasn't women who pied her.
MKULTRA
23-10-2004, 07:24
I think this whole affair is tacky. If you cant hit someone in the head. Dont bother.

If you hit the body ionstead it just seems mean spirited.
Coultergeist is the Queen of mean spirited
Lunatic Goofballs
23-10-2004, 07:26
I think this whole affair is tacky. If you cant hit someone in the head. Dont bother.

If you hit the body ionstead it just seems mean spirited.

I can't speak for these particular pie snipers, but I'd guess that given the opportunity, they would have. Maybe they were poor shots, or maybe security was going to nab them before they had a clear shot. People like Ann Coulter can't exactly walk down the street, whistling a tune.
New Astrolia
23-10-2004, 07:31
Well thats exactly the point. If they are poor shots they shouldn't have bothered.

You gotta admit, the symbolism of being hit in the face with a pie is different then being hit in the body.
ScoHoMoLand
23-10-2004, 07:35
What did Ann do to those pies.

I mean really, those poor pies.
Lunatic Goofballs
23-10-2004, 07:36
Well thats exactly the point. If they are poor shots they shouldn't have bothered.

You gotta admit, the symbolism of being hit in the face with a pie is different then being hit in the body.

Indeed. Look at Bill Gates. :D

Of course, that was planned out by the master of pie snipings, Noel Godin. :)
Onion Pirates
23-10-2004, 07:57
Cow pies would have been appropriate, given the sort of stuff she slings around.

:P
Gauthier
23-10-2004, 08:06
Oh come on, it's Ann Coulter. They should have used buckets of water instead.

:D
Goed
23-10-2004, 10:10
Oh come on, it's Ann Coulter. They should have used buckets of water instead.

:D

Wouldn't that have just caused her to melt? ;)
BackwoodsSquatches
23-10-2004, 10:17
Wouldn't that have just caused her to melt? ;)

Thats the idea.
Grigala
23-10-2004, 10:20
Okay, talk about jumping on the bandwagon, but...

It has always been one of my fantasies to paste some dumb Republican with a pie in the middle of their speech. Too bad the crowd was made up of republicans, I would've loved to have heard laughter. ;)

Reply to above: Most likely.
Incertonia
23-10-2004, 23:20
Want to watch the video?
Here you go. (http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/coulter.html)
Chess Squares
23-10-2004, 23:23
shit do we have an award we could give these guys? you know like one for service to the country for nailing that psycho bitch with pies, thats a service to our damned country.
Spoffin
23-10-2004, 23:28
Ann Coulter creamed!
See, I was very nervous about clicking on this, in case its some kind of Republican-themed porn and I ended up going blind.
Gymoor
23-10-2004, 23:43
See, I was very nervous about clicking on this, in case its some kind of Republican-themed porn and I ended up going blind.

Yeah, I was thinking of a right-wingnut bukakke film too. It would probably involve a loofah and a falafel as well.
Spoffin
23-10-2004, 23:52
Ok, I just saw the video.

I thought it wouldn't be funny cos they didn't manage to hit her. Boy was I wrong!

That's fucking fantastic. I want to see that every single day.
Superpower07
23-10-2004, 23:56
my praise to the pie throwers!
San Texario
24-10-2004, 00:06
That's so great!
Goed
24-10-2004, 00:16
That's hilarious. It gets a bookmark :D
Incertonia
24-10-2004, 01:55
And so far no cracks about how Michael Moore would never get pied because he'd just eat them or something equally lame. I'm so proud. :D
Lunatic Goofballs
24-10-2004, 01:57
Ok, I just saw the video.

I thought it wouldn't be funny cos they didn't manage to hit her. Boy was I wrong!

That's fucking fantastic. I want to see that every single day.

can you post a link?

Heh. Nevermind. Thanks, Incertonia. :)
Siljhouettes
24-10-2004, 02:21
This kind of thing plays into her hands, she no doubt views the attack as validation of everything she stands for. The best is to ignore her (or compare her to Michael Moore, that sets her off...) or continue to point out how dumb her arguments are.
No doubt her next column will say things like "typical liberals. They hate me thus they hate America." IMO she's a lot worse than Michael Moore.
Vaticanaan
24-10-2004, 02:34
Its to bad they missed, she might have eaten something finally.
Kritosia
24-10-2004, 02:40
What did Ann do to those pies.

*Snerk*

The sad thing is, a good portion of the readership voted in their poll that the perpetrators of piedom SHOULD have been arrested for assault. In that case, I believe Ann assaults the public every time she opens her mouth. Don't the two cancel each other out?
Tamarket
24-10-2004, 03:01
*Snerk*

The sad thing is, a good portion of the readership voted in their poll that the perpetrators of piedom SHOULD have been arrested for assault. In that case, I believe Ann assaults the public every time she opens her mouth. Don't the two cancel each other out?

Two wrongs don't make a right, but a pie thrown at someone is largely harmless.
_Susa_
24-10-2004, 03:11
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/3841599/detail.html

Another one bites the dust! I'm still looking for video.
Ahh, the pie sniper strikes again!
Spoffin
24-10-2004, 03:15
Two wrongs don't make a right, but a pie thrown at someone is largely harmless.
NOT if you're wearing a $4000 designer dress.

Heh heh heh.

Don't worry lads. We'll get her and her posh tat sooner or later.
Gitup
24-10-2004, 03:29
"Two mens throw pies at 'journalist' Ann Coulter"

JOURNALIST??? We can't just throw that term around.

On a side note, I was a bit cautious, but morbidly curious what Ann Coulter porn would look like =D
7eventeen
24-10-2004, 03:33
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/3841599/detail.html

Another one bites the dust! I'm still looking for video.
Two limp-wristed liberals who from 5 feet away, can only graze her shoulder. What hateful losers.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-10-2004, 03:33
"Two mens throw pies at 'journalist' Ann Coulter"

JOURNALIST??? We can't just throw that term around.

On a side note, I was a bit cautious, but morbidly curious what Ann Coulter porn would look like =D

Probably like a guy humping a bear trap. I bet she has sharp metal teeth down there. *nod*
Monkeypimp
24-10-2004, 03:46
I think you really need to hit the face for full effect. Could have used a bit more practice perhaps, but a good effort nonetheless.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-10-2004, 03:47
I think you really need to hit the face for full effect. Could have used a bit more practice perhaps, but a good effort nonetheless.

Maybe I ought to open a Pie Boot Camp to train would-be pie snipers. :)
Chess Squares
24-10-2004, 03:55
"Two mens throw pies at 'journalist' Ann Coulter"

JOURNALIST??? We can't just throw that term around.

On a side note, I was a bit cautious, but morbidly curious what Ann Coulter porn would look like =D
if by journalist they mean overopinionated bitch who for some god forsaken reason is paid to write a column once or twice a week by the neocons, yeah she's a journalist
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 03:56
Probably like a guy humping a bear trap. I bet she has sharp metal teeth down there. *nod*

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!
Chess Squares
24-10-2004, 03:57
Two limp-wristed liberals who from 5 feet away, can only graze her shoulder. What hateful losers.
yeah stupid pussies shouldnt have thrown it, the both managed to get across the stage without being taken down by old people, gunfire, or the SS. they shouldve ran up and slammed the thing into her fucking face.
Gauthier
24-10-2004, 04:01
yeah stupid pussies shouldnt have thrown it, the both managed to get across the stage without being taken down by old people, gunfire, or the SS. they shouldve ran up and slammed the thing into her fucking face.

And that, ladies and gentlemen... would be the only time in history where anyone gets to see something sticky on Ann Coulter's face.

Besides a Liberal's blood.

:D
Utopio
24-10-2004, 04:02
Funny.

Can anyone hear what she says before the pies? I've played it over several times and get:

"... the point I make in my book which is: take away the terrorism and liberals would hate [?]muslims[?]"

I must be mishearing. She's not claiming the above, is she? Anyone read her book?
Monkeypimp
24-10-2004, 04:05
yeah stupid pussies shouldnt have thrown it, the both managed to get across the stage without being taken down by old people, gunfire, or the SS. they shouldve ran up and slammed the thing into her fucking face.

Yeah that would have been good, but the point of pie sniping is to have the pie appear out of nowhere slamming straight into their face mid speech. If you're watching on TV, and a pie comes off the side of the screen and nails the person in the face when no one saw it coming, you've got the right effect.
7eventeen
24-10-2004, 04:06
Funny.

Can anyone hear what she says before the pies? I've played it over several times and get:

"... the point I make in my book which is: take away the terrorism and liberals would hate [?]muslims[?]"

I must be mishearing. She's not claiming the above, is she? Anyone read her book?
Doesn't sound innaccurate. Liberals love anyone who hates America.
Monkeypimp
24-10-2004, 04:08
Doesn't sound innaccurate. Liberals love anyone who hates America.
I'm fairly liberal and there are several people who hate America who I don't like. You're traped in this with-us-or-against-us mentality. So do you consider John Kerry to be left wing?
7eventeen
24-10-2004, 04:13
I'm fairly liberal and there are several people who hate America who I don't like. You're traped in this with-us-or-against-us mentality. So do you consider John Kerry to be left wing?
I consider John Kerry to be a marxist and a betrayer of all American ideals.
Utopio
24-10-2004, 04:14
Doesn't sound innaccurate. Liberals love anyone who hates America.

You've got to be a sarcastic, or a troll.

Anyhoo, I'm more amused by the fact she's spouting such rubbish.
Monkeypimp
24-10-2004, 04:18
You've got to be a sarcastic, or a troll.

Anyhoo, I'm more amused by the fact she's spouting such rubbish.

I'm picking troll right about now.
7eventeen
24-10-2004, 04:19
You've got to be a sarcastic, or a troll.

Anyhoo, I'm more amused by the fact she's spouting such rubbish.
Why, because you don't agree with me? Perhaps you are the troll?
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 04:22
Why, because you don't agree with me? Perhaps you are the troll?

Saying that Liberals like people who dislike the U.S. (unless it was a joke,) is intentionally imflammatory. Seriously, in your heart of hearts, do you believe that?
Zode
24-10-2004, 04:27
On a side note, I was a bit cautious, but morbidly curious what Ann Coulter porn would look like =D

Rotten.com has it in their section of her.

Let's just say this:

:eek:

:headbang:

:) :mp5:
7eventeen
24-10-2004, 04:32
Saying that Liberals like people who dislike the U.S. (unless it was a joke,) is intentionally imflammatory. Seriously, in your heart of hearts, do you believe that?
Yes, based on their words and actions I do believe that. Just because someone does not believe the same thing as you does not automatically make them a troll.
Utopio
24-10-2004, 04:36
Yes, based on their words and actions I do believe that. Just because someone does not believe the same thing as you does not automatically make them a troll.

Fair enough dude.

But calling Kerry a Marxist kinda makes you look uninformed at best...
Semartica
24-10-2004, 04:37
Lol
Gauthier
24-10-2004, 04:38
Is it just me, or does everything that comes out of The Wicked Witch of the Right's mouth sound like a new chapter of The Turner Diaries?
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 04:41
Yes, based on their words and actions I do believe that. Just because someone does not believe the same thing as you does not automatically make them a troll.

Don't you see the hypocrisy in your post just there? Liberals disagree with you, so you think they hate America. I am Liberal. I do not hate America. I dislike intensely those who hold the highest offices on the land, primarily because I honestly and deeply feel that they are bad for America. Surprise surprise, I see those who use terrorist tactics as being bad for America too, but I honestly and deeply feel that the policies of the President creates more people who will be so desperate that they use terrorist tactics against America.

Now, I don't think you hate America. I merely think you are mistaken. I would like to have an honest and adult conversation about what is and isn't good for America, but it is impossible when you automatically demonize people who disagree with you.
Chodolo
24-10-2004, 04:42
Doesn't sound innaccurate. Liberals love anyone who hates America.
Uh huh...yes, we liberals love Osama bin Laden.
Eridanus
24-10-2004, 05:00
I heard about little Annie Coulter getting pied. Serves her right. Waste of pie though.
Eridanus
24-10-2004, 05:05
Yes, based on their words and actions I do believe that. Just because someone does not believe the same thing as you does not automatically make them a troll.

Makes you a jerk, jerk.
Grigala
24-10-2004, 05:20
Doesn't sound innaccurate. Liberals love anyone who hates America.

Is it just me, or are you as much of a walking ball of hypocracy as Alansyists is?

This is my first thought when listening to you:

"Oh, lookit me! I'm George W. Bush, and I'm infaliable! Even if I manage to kill thousands of innocent civilians and waste our military force on a pointless war while COMPLETELY ABANDONING the real threat, AND I completely screwed over america's economy, but I'm still the best person in the world!"

You: "Yeah, Bush all the way! Down with the pussy liberals who actually belive it was WRONG (oh dear) to waste thousands of lives!"

Now, I DON'T belive that Bush loves Osama B. Ladin. I don't belive falsehoods, no matter what they state.

I heard about little Annie Coulter getting pied. Serves her right. Waste of pie though.

Yeah, that would be better in Bush's face. ;)
7eventeen
24-10-2004, 05:32
Makes you a jerk, jerk.
Coward.

Are we done now?
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 05:39
Coward.

Are we done now?

Come say that to my face.
Khockist
24-10-2004, 05:58
I'd given up hope. I thought conservatives were going to rule the world. Then the pie assassins came along. I was filled with hope. I hope more pie mercanaries come along in the near future. Although one pie did come reasonably close we need secret training forces for these pie throwers of the future so they can hit Republicans from a distance of thirty yards.
Domici
24-10-2004, 06:21
I was puzzled for a bit when I saw the title. She's such a bitter shrew, I thought, that she mustn't have creamed in years.
Eridanus
24-10-2004, 06:33
Coward.

Are we done now?

After you tell me what makes me a coward, jerk.
Saipea
24-10-2004, 06:42
Surprised it wasn't women who pied her.

Ya, seriously. Non SWAMP (straight [/selfish] white [/wealthy] anglosaxon [/anti-minority] male [/mysoginistic] protestant [/puritan]) conservatives do not compute.
Saipea
24-10-2004, 06:44
I was puzzled for a bit when I saw the title. She's such a bitter shrew, I thought, that she mustn't have creamed in years.

Yes, I had the exact same thoughts. Maybe because we "liberals are such sexual deviants", or something like that.
New Florence Marie
24-10-2004, 06:46
"Two mens throw pies at 'journalist' Ann Coulter"

JOURNALIST??? We can't just throw that term around.

On a side note, I was a bit cautious, but morbidly curious what Ann Coulter porn would look like =D

Ann Coulter porn? If I wanted to see a witch cackle and twitch, I'd watch the video of the house falling on her sister.

Just the thought of Coulterporn makes my eyes hurt.

MY EYES! MY EYES! :mad: :eek:
Lunatic Goofballs
24-10-2004, 11:15
Ann Coulter porn? If I wanted to see a witch cackle and twitch, I'd watch the video of the house falling on her sister.

Just the thought of Coulterporn makes my eyes hurt.

MY EYES! MY EYES! :mad: :eek:

She did it with Rush Limbaugh. :D
Anbar
24-10-2004, 14:19
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/3841599/detail.html

Another one bites the dust! I'm still looking for video.

If you find it, I'd love to see it.
Anbar
24-10-2004, 14:24
Want to watch the video?
Here you go. (http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/coulter.html)

Yeah! I'm saving that and putting it right next to my video of Michael Savage making the statement that lost him his TV show.

I would have done this better...they should have attacked from both sides, if possible, or from behind. The bitch never would have seen it coming, then.
Planta Genestae
24-10-2004, 14:27
Don't mention Anne Coulter and Cream in the same sentence please! Giving me a horrible image!
Anbar
24-10-2004, 14:30
Funny.

Can anyone hear what she says before the pies? I've played it over several times and get:

"... the point I make in my book which is: take away the terrorism and liberals would hate [?]muslims[?]"

I must be mishearing. She's not claiming the above, is she? Anyone read her book?

I think that's what she's saying...I'm always too busy laughing at her reaction. Don't try to use logic to make out what she's saying, though. That's truly an exercise in futility. It's not based in any that works outside the dust jacket of her books.
Anbar
24-10-2004, 14:33
Doesn't sound innaccurate. Liberals love anyone who hates America.

You do realize that little catchphrase had nothing to do with the speculated quote, don't you? The supposed quote commented on Liberals hating Muslims for some reason, not loving them. But, don't let that stop your parrotting.
Markreich
24-10-2004, 14:35
So many people against the 1st Amendment.
</sarcasm>

Had it been Al Franken, it'd have been an uproar. :confused:
Anbar
24-10-2004, 14:38
So many people against the 1st Amendment.
</sarcasm>

Had it been Al Franken, it'd have been an uproar. :confused:

Had it been Al Franken, I doubt anyone would have really cared. He's not a shieking harpy.

Um, has anyone said anything about shutting her up? Nope, just that she's a <think of the worst expletitive you could call an unpleasant female, now double that> who deserved to be hit with a pie. Hence, you'd do well to stop your whiny cries of (Neo)conservative martyrdom - they're pathetic.
Indiru
24-10-2004, 14:41
There is something wrong with her.

"Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" by Al Franken is a must read.
Preebles
24-10-2004, 14:45
*starts up a pie sniper training camp in Melbourne*

Any recruits? My suggestions for our first target: Peter Costello, Tony Abbot, Fred Nile, whoever the hell leads Family First, Pauline Hanson and of course... Johnny. :sniper:
Markreich
24-10-2004, 15:17
Had it been Al Franken, I doubt anyone would have really cared. He's not a shieking harpy.

Um, has anyone said anything about shutting her up? Nope, just that she's a <think of the worst expletitive you could call an unpleasant female, now double that> who deserved to be hit with a pie. Hence, you'd do well to stop your whiny cries of (Neo)conservative martyrdom - they're pathetic.

He is *so* a shrieking harpy. :D

Er, my point was that if it was someone throwing a pie at a liberal commentator (Al Franken, Michael Moore, whomever) that everyone would be b*tching about 1st Amendment rights.
Refused Party Program
24-10-2004, 15:40
I feel like joining Al Pieda! :D
Refused Party Program
24-10-2004, 15:41
He is *so* a shrieking harpy. :D

Er, my point was that if it was someone throwing a pie at a liberal commentator (Al Franken, Michael Moore, whomever) that everyone would be b*tching about 1st Amendment rights.

I doubt Franken or Moore would have pressed charges against someone throwing pies. Seriously.
Shaed
24-10-2004, 15:44
*starts up a pie sniper training camp in Melbourne*

Any recruits? My suggestions for our first target: Peter Costello, Tony Abbot, Fred Nile, whoever the hell leads Family First, Pauline Hanson and of course... Johnny. :sniper:

I can't join (weakling talking)

But I *can* help gather recruits, and maybe help with theory training...
Preebles
24-10-2004, 15:46
Hurrah! Can you also help with pie preparation? We need them soft enough so they splatter, but solid enough so some of it sticks to their faces.

Exccellent... *schemes*
Refused Party Program
24-10-2004, 15:49
Hurrah! Can you also help with pie preparation? We need them soft enough so they splatter, but solid enough so some of it sticks to their faces.

Exccellent... *schemes*
Make more than we need to throw, we shall eat some later.
Anbar
24-10-2004, 21:07
He is *so* a shrieking harpy. :D

Er, my point was that if it was someone throwing a pie at a liberal commentator (Al Franken, Michael Moore, whomever) that everyone would be b*tching about 1st Amendment rights.

No, because no one here is talking about censorship, and it really has nothing to do with this issue. I doubt it would come up from either side, because the effort was not to stop the expression of opinion, merely to make a "counterpoint," and a damn funny one at that.
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 21:11
So many people against the 1st Amendment.
</sarcasm>

Had it been Al Franken, it'd have been an uproar. :confused:

Hitting someone with a pie could also be seen as expressing one's 1st Amendment rights.
Incertonia
24-10-2004, 21:21
Hitting someone with a pie could also be seen as expressing one's 1st Amendment rights.I'd say so. Of course, it can also be seen as assault and battery, so there's a down side as well. That said, if I were ever public enough a figure and controversial enough that someone felt it necessary to hit me with a pie, I think I'd have enough of a sense of humor about it to just deal with it. No one has ever accused Coulter of having a sense of humor--not a good one anyway.
7eventeen
24-10-2004, 21:21
Hitting someone with a pie could also be seen as expressing one's 1st Amendment rights.
:rolleyes: Assault is not Constitutionally protected speech.
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 21:29
:rolleyes: Assault is not Constitutionally protected speech.

Wow, what a manly, macho conservative you are. Afraid of a pie. Do you consider an donut a deadly weapon? Do you feel threatened by tiramasou? Do you lie awake in fear of being pelted by pudding? Does sherbet give you the shakes? Does custard make you cringe?

Hmmph. Typical chicken-hawk behavior. Big talk, little courage.
Sir Peter the sage
24-10-2004, 21:46
Wow, what a manly, macho conservative you are. Afraid of a pie. Do you consider an donut a deadly weapon? Do you feel threatened by tiramasou? Do you lie awake in fear of being pelted by pudding? Does sherbet give you the shakes? Does custard make you cringe?

Hmmph. Typical chicken-hawk behavior. Big talk, little courage.

Don't be so hard on him. Desserts can be pretty damn scary, they can get into...places...I don't wanna talk about it. NO NOTHING HAPPENED!! O God! The pastries have come back for my blood, they're alive, they'll kill us all aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
Kerubia
24-10-2004, 21:49
Wow, what a manly, macho conservative you are. Afraid of a pie. Do you consider an donut a deadly weapon? Do you feel threatened by tiramasou? Do you lie awake in fear of being pelted by pudding? Does sherbet give you the shakes? Does custard make you cringe?

Hmmph. Typical chicken-hawk behavior. Big talk, little courage.

Scary thing is that I can't tell if this person is joking, ignorant, or simply trolling.

They make it sound as if they don't understand why someone throwing a pie in your face would be assault.
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 22:00
Scary thing is that I can't tell if this person is joking, ignorant, or simply trolling.

They make it sound as if they don't understand why someone throwing a pie in your face would be assault.

I can see where a pie could be an assault on one's dignity. I don't see how it's a physical threat or even an economic one (unless some clothing is destroyed.)

Legally, I'm likely to be wrong. Personally though, I would not press charges against anyone who threw a pie at me. I consider that to be inexcusabably craven.
Sir Peter the sage
24-10-2004, 22:03
Most likely they won't be charged with anything. The piers will probably spend a night or two in a jail cell. Even though a pie won't hurt anyone, pieing somoene should have some sort of consequence, otherwise you'd have pie anarchy. A pie anarchy world is a world I don't want to live in.
Vesperian
24-10-2004, 22:08
I can see where a pie could be an assault on one's dignity. I don't see how it's a physical threat or even an economic one (unless some clothing is destroyed.)

Legally, I'm likely to be wrong. Personally though, I would not press charges against anyone who threw a pie at me. I consider that to be inexcusabably craven.

Assault does NOT have to be a physical threat at all. Almost any form of unwanted contact can be branded as assault.
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 22:10
Assault does NOT have to be a physical threat at all. Almost any form of unwanted contact can be branded as assault.

Look, I'm not arguing legalities. I'm perfectly aware that they can be prosecuted for assault. I'm merely saying that according to my own moral code, I would never be able to press charges against someone who merely threw a pie at me (and mostly missed.) I'd have no respect for myself if I did.
Sir Peter the sage
24-10-2004, 22:12
What if someone were to just go around throwing pies at random people. Should they be charged with a crime then? Is it okay if they are making a statement against a certain person or ideals? I just want you to clarify that.
Anbar
24-10-2004, 22:13
Assault does NOT have to be a physical threat at all. Almost any form of unwanted contact can be branded as assault.

Isn't that one of those frivolous things those dastardly trial lawyers would sue over? Hmm...
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 22:14
Isn't that one of those frivolous things those dastardly trial lawyers would sue over? Hmm...

Game, set, match. Anbar wins.
Waynesburg
24-10-2004, 22:15
Very mature.
Anbar
24-10-2004, 22:15
What if someone were to just go around throwing pies at random people. Should they be charged with a crime then? Is it okay if they are making a statement against a certain person or ideals? I just want you to clarify that.

I'd say this was a political action, and so it qualifies as free speech. Of course, it involved contact with one's political target, so if that target wanted to be a real prude (and let's face it, this is Ann Coulter), she could probably bring charges. Would she be this petty and Mean spirited?

Do bears sh-t in the woods?
Anbar
24-10-2004, 22:16
Game, set, match. Anbar wins.

*bows*
Gymoor
24-10-2004, 22:16
What if someone were to just go around throwing pies at random people. Should they be charged with a crime then? Is it okay if they are making a statement against a certain person or ideals? I just want you to clarify that.

Well, they should definitely be charged with littering.
Sir Peter the sage
24-10-2004, 22:19
But why is it free speech if it is a "political statement" and a crime if its done to some poor shmuck. The target shouldn't make a difference in dealing out punishment.
Vesperian
24-10-2004, 22:27
But why is it free speech if it is a "political statement" and a crime if its done to some poor shmuck. The target shouldn't make a difference in dealing out punishment.

Looks like the real winner here is this guy.
Sir Peter the sage
24-10-2004, 22:28
Looks like the real winner here is this guy.

Nobody really wins when perfectly good pies are wasted by throwing them at people. Thats the real crime. :D
Anbar
24-10-2004, 22:29
But why is it free speech if it is a "political statement" and a crime if its done to some poor shmuck. The target shouldn't make a difference in dealing out punishment.

Fact of the matter is that we're talking about pies, not assault with any intent to injure. A person who randomly pies people on the street would probably be more likely to be charged with creating a public nuisance than assault.

In either case, one could press an assault charge, and quite frankly, they'd be a dick to do so. It cannot be argued that this was not politically motivated, and since it was quite harmless, I don't see it crossing over from free speech to assault. As someone else has pointed out, legally, that may not be the case. I am not here to argue legal technicalities, either.
Sir Peter the sage
24-10-2004, 22:34
So a public nuisance charge for the random pier. It is still the same thing even if it is a politcal statement. That seems a reasonable charge for pieing someone. Just don't let them off scott free, even though it was a political statement. I think we can agree on that.
Elmhavn
24-10-2004, 22:47
Doesn't sound innaccurate. Liberals love anyone who hates America.

I thought liberals loved liberty? As in 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'?

But of course, on that logic, anyone who wasn't liberal would hate america...

Ho hum.
Sir Peter the sage
24-10-2004, 22:49
I thought liberals loved liberty? As in 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'?

But of course, on that logic, anyone who wasn't liberal would hate america...

Ho hum.

That line has already been commented on and beaten to death. Try and keep up.
Anbar
24-10-2004, 22:49
So a public nuisance charge for the random pier. It is still the same thing even if it is a politcal statement. That seems a reasonable charge for pieing someone. Just don't let them off scott free, even though it was a political statement. I think we can agree on that.

Indeed, I acknowledge that they crossed a line in making contact with Coulter, and they probably will get something for it. It's certainly likely that they'll get some minor penalty for it, and I agree that such a thing would be appropriate.
Sir Peter the sage
24-10-2004, 22:52
Well at least we now know compromise isn't dead. Perhaps there is hope for us yet.
Refused Party Program
25-10-2004, 09:09
I'd say so. Of course, it can also be seen as assault and battery, so there's a down side as well. That said, if I were ever public enough a figure and controversial enough that someone felt it necessary to hit me with a pie, I think I'd have enough of a sense of humor about it to just deal with it. No one has ever accused Coulter of having a sense of humor--not a good one anyway.

If someone threw pies at me, I'd gladly accept their generosity and return the favour. :D

There is absolutely no reason to get the law involved in something so petty. She should have forced them to pay for the dry-cleaning at most, but we all know she's batshit insane.
Gymoor
25-10-2004, 11:48
If you watch the Zapruder version of the tape, you can see there is a third pieman on the grassy knoll.
Queensland Ontario
25-10-2004, 12:57
These losers who belong to some sort of international bakers guild/ I'm not joking thay have a website and everything. They're terrorsts and they'v been pieing people all around the world for a decade. About 5 or so years ago they got my prime minister right in the face with i pie. Now the thing is, that my prime minister was a liberal prime minister, and he got it anyways. So that rules out these wakos from having speific targets like conservativs and liberals, they're just out to desroy anyones politicol career. Lucky my prime minister was elected two more times and retired his position, these terrorists didn't influence anything. In recent news the alberta premier ralph Klien was hit in the face by a guy with a pie, and yes you guessed it, that guys going to jail for 6 months. I think a good deterant would be to arrest the pie slingers, arrest their family , children and parents and all, and pie them all while making the slinger watch just to show him how un funny what hes doing is, and how it is assult by anyones defenition. These loonies are one step away from being assasins, so stop the insanity people! jesus!
Refused Party Program
25-10-2004, 13:00
These losers who belong to some sort of international bakers guild/ I'm not joking thay have a website and everything. They're terrorsts and they'v been pieing people all around the world for a decade. About 5 or so years ago they got my prime minister right in the face with i pie. Now the thing is, that my prime minister was a liberal prime minister, and he got it anyways. So that rules out these wakos from having speific targets like conservativs and liberals, they're just out to desroy anyones politicol career. Lucky my prime minister was elected two more times and retired his position, these terrorists didn't influence anything. In recent news the alberta premier ralph Klien was hit in the face by a guy with a pie, and yes you guessed it, that guys going to jail for 6 months. I think a good deterant would be to arrest the pie slingers, arrest their family , children and parents and all, and pie them all while making the slinger watch just to show him how un funny what hes doing is, and how it is assult by anyones defenition. These loonies are one step away from being assasins, so stop the insanity people! jesus!

HAHAHAHAHA :D
Monkeypimp
25-10-2004, 13:41
I think its one of those situations where if you're good enough to get past all the security and give a decent pieing, you deserve to go free.
Jeruselem
25-10-2004, 13:54
All these paranoid conservatives scared of Islamic terrorists wanting blow them upm so they hired security guards and a guy with pie gets gets her. That pie could have been dosed with bioagents, but the incident does prove a point.
Refused Party Program
25-10-2004, 13:56
All these paranoid conservatives scared of Islamic terrorists wanting blow them upm so they hired security guards and a guy with pie gets gets her. That pie could have been dosed with bioagents, but the incident does prove a point.

Nah, I reckon it's an inside job. The security guards let these guys in because they hate the bitch.
Jeruselem
25-10-2004, 14:14
Nah, I reckon it's an inside job. The security guards let these guys in because they hate the bitch.

Just a pie? I'd use green biodegradable organic Marjuana-flavoured non-GE spinach pie on her with Michael Moore's photo in it. :D
Refused Party Program
25-10-2004, 14:16
Just a pie? I'd use green biodegradable organic Marjuana-flavoured non-GE spinach pie on her with Michael Moore's photo in it. :D

Maybe she really hates pie, so any will do.
Markreich
25-10-2004, 14:36
Fact of the matter is that we're talking about pies, not assault with any intent to injure. A person who randomly pies people on the street would probably be more likely to be charged with creating a public nuisance than assault.

In either case, one could press an assault charge, and quite frankly, they'd be a dick to do so. It cannot be argued that this was not politically motivated, and since it was quite harmless, I don't see it crossing over from free speech to assault. As someone else has pointed out, legally, that may not be the case. I am not here to argue legal technicalities, either.

You are obviously not from NYC.

It's not your dry cleaning bill, either. And, more to the point: If I were a cagey trial lawyer, I'd use the prescident of ALLOWING pies to defend my client that threw a brick, since he obviously thought that throwing things at people was a First Amendment right.

And think about that, consider the McDonald's "hot coffee" lawsuit, THEN decide if it's too fantastic to happen. :(
Friedmanville
25-10-2004, 14:40
A list of "pundits" I cannot stand:

Ann Coulter
Sean Hannity
Michael Moore
Eric Alterman
Lewis Lapham (Harpers)
Myrth
25-10-2004, 15:03
You are obviously not from NYC.

It's not your dry cleaning bill, either. And, more to the point: If I were a cagey trial lawyer, I'd use the prescident of ALLOWING pies to defend my client that threw a brick, since he obviously thought that throwing things at people was a First Amendment right.

And think about that, consider the McDonald's "hot coffee" lawsuit, THEN decide if it's too fantastic to happen. :(

1. A brick would cause serious harm to someone. A cream pie wouldn't.

2. Scalding hot coffee could harm someone. A cream pie couldn't.
Markreich
25-10-2004, 16:51
1. A brick would cause serious harm to someone. A cream pie wouldn't.

2. Scalding hot coffee could harm someone. A cream pie couldn't.

1. Go watch some Law & Order. Those weird defenses work more often than you'd expect. I won't even go into the whole idea of punitive damages.

2. It's labeled "HOT COFFEE".
If you fell off of a brand-new ladder, can you sue OSHA? Yet you're saying that someone putting hot coffee between their legs (which is, BTW, NOT endorsed by the vendor) is okay.
The God King Eru-sama
25-10-2004, 17:09
1. Go watch some Law & Order. Those weird defenses work more often than you'd expect. I won't even go into the whole idea of punitive damages.


It's on TV, it must be true!


2. It's labeled "HOT COFFEE".
If you fell off of a brand-new ladder, can you sue OSHA? Yet you're saying that someone putting hot coffee between their legs (which is, BTW, NOT endorsed by the vendor) is okay.

Yes, because third-degree burns are "lol hot." Look at the actual (http://www.centerjd.org/free/mythbusters-free/MB_mcdonalds.htm) facts (http://www.atla.org/ConsumerMediaResources/Tier3/press_room/FACTS/frivolous/McdonaldsCoffeecase.aspx) of the case.
Markreich
25-10-2004, 17:50
It's on TV, it must be true!



Yes, because third-degree burns are "lol hot." Look at the actual (http://www.centerjd.org/free/mythbusters-free/MB_mcdonalds.htm) facts (http://www.atla.org/ConsumerMediaResources/Tier3/press_room/FACTS/frivolous/McdonaldsCoffeecase.aspx) of the case.

I mention Law & Order only because they have very good fact checking. That, and it's a whole lot quicker than going to court and watching cases. :)

Point #12 is interesting.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm
McDonalds also argued that consumers know coffee is hot and that its
customers want it that way. The company admitted its customers were
unaware that they could suffer thirddegree burns from the coffee and
that a statement on the side of the cup was not a "warning" but a
"reminder" since the location of the writing would not warn customers of
the hazard.

The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages. This amount
was reduced to $160,000 because the jury found Liebeck 20 percent at
fault in the spill. The jury also awarded Liebeck $2.7 million in
punitive damages, which equals about two days of McDonalds' coffee
sales.

Post-verdict investigation found that the temperature of coffee at the
local Albuquerque McDonalds had dropped to 158 degrees fahrenheit.

The trial court subsequently reduced the punitive award to $480,000 --
or three times compensatory damages -- even though the judge called
McDonalds' conduct reckless, callous and willful.

No one will ever know the final ending to this case.
Dontgivadamn
25-10-2004, 18:01
Those guys throw pies like John Kerry would fight terrorism.

Oh well, what do you expect from men in pantyhose??
Sub-Actuality
25-10-2004, 18:05
Those guys throw pies like John Kerry would fight terrorism.

Oh well, what do you expect from men in pantyhose??

Doubtful... but at least they threw them at the right person.
Soviet Democracy
25-10-2004, 18:15
Funny.

Can anyone hear what she says before the pies? I've played it over several times and get:

"... the point I make in my book which is: take away the terrorism and liberals would hate [?]muslims[?]"

I must be mishearing. She's not claiming the above, is she? Anyone read her book?

I was actually reading through to see if anyone else commented on this. That is what I thought she was saying. They could not of thrown the pies a second later, could they?
The Lyoness
25-10-2004, 18:24
Maybe she ran off so quickly because some pie accidently got in her mouth, and she had to go purge...
BastardSword
25-10-2004, 18:53
Doesn't sound innaccurate. Liberals love anyone who hates America.

Yep we LOVE Bush don't we!?
After all Bush hurt America's credibility, our self power(we owe China all that debt), and more. So yeah we love our Bush has made it so easy to elect a democrat and finally get rid of the republican party.

Personally I think there are good republicans but thanks anyways. :)
Sussudio
25-10-2004, 19:20
All we need is Rush Limbaugh, Al Franken, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Michael Moore, Bill Maher and the rest of these political sensationists
lined up in front of a big pie firing squad.
Sussudio
25-10-2004, 19:23
Those guys throw pies like John Kerry would fight terrorism.

Oh well, what do you expect from men in pantyhose??

No, those guys throw pies like John Kerry throws a football: very much like a woman. A very unathletic woman. Throwing with her off hand. After having shoulder surgery.
MKULTRA
26-10-2004, 05:33
No, those guys throw pies like John Kerry throws a football: very much like a woman. A very unathletic woman. Throwing with her off hand. After having shoulder surgery.
meanwhile Kerry is the war hero and Bush was the cheerleader at an all male school...
Togarmah
26-10-2004, 05:36
Why do people hat Ann so much. I know she's not very good looking, but if you spend any time with her she's a really nice person.
Lunatic Goofballs
26-10-2004, 07:33
The worst that could happen because of a pieing is a bit of eye crud. The target might need a good flushing and some visine, but otherwise, pieing is a harmless political gesture.
MKULTRA
26-10-2004, 07:41
Why do people hat Ann so much. I know she's not very good looking, but if you spend any time with her she's a really nice person.
we only hate her when someone lets her out of her cage and she spews her venom all around the room
Goed
26-10-2004, 07:43
Why do people hat Ann so much. I know she's not very good looking, but if you spend any time with her she's a really nice person.

Until you tell her that you are a leftist.

At which she rips off your testicles, shoves them down your throat, and beats you to death with your own arms after ripping them out of their sockets.
Togarmah
26-10-2004, 08:04
Until you tell her that you are a leftist.

At which she rips off your testicles, shoves them down your throat, and beats you to death with your own arms after ripping them out of their sockets.

Well, we all have our own fantasies, don't we?

But honestly, Ann can touch my testes any time she wants. :)
Chodolo
26-10-2004, 08:05
Why do people hat Ann so much. I know she's not very good looking, but if you spend any time with her she's a really nice person.
She's better looking than most political pundits. However, from every interview and appearance she's done that I have seen, she comes across as a very nasty person.
Lunatic Goofballs
26-10-2004, 08:10
Well, we all have our own fantasies, don't we?

But honestly, Ann can touch my testes any time she wants. :)

It's a trap! Think about it!

How many pretty blonde ultra-conservatives have you met?

None. Because they aren't found in nature.

I suspect she's an android.
MKULTRA
26-10-2004, 08:19
Well, we all have our own fantasies, don't we?

But honestly, Ann can touch my testes any time she wants. :)
careful--it has claws
Togarmah
26-10-2004, 08:25
All good points guys. But if you meet her, honestly, its not that overpowering. As to the testes comment; I'm quite prepared to let fat chicks touch them too.