NationStates Jolt Archive

Bush is my shepherd, I shall be in want.
He maketh me to lie down on park benches,
He leadeth me beside the still factories.
He restoreth my doubts about the Republican Party.
He leadeth me onto the paths of unemployment for His cronies' sake.
Yea, though no weapons of mass destruction have been found,
He maketh me continue to fear Evil.
His tax cuts for the rich and His deficit spending discomfort me.
He annointeth me with never-ending debt:
Verily my days of savings and assets are kaput.
Surely poverty and hard living shall follow me all the days of His administration,
And my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever.

Bush is my shepherd, I shall be in want.
He maketh me to lie down on park benches,
He leadeth me beside the still factories.
He restoreth my doubts about the Republican Party.
He leadeth me onto the paths of unemployment for His cronies' sake.
Yea, though no weapons of mass destruction have been found,
He maketh me continue to fear Evil.
His tax cuts for the rich and His deficit spending discomfort me.
He annointeth me with never-ending debt:
Verily my days of savings and assets are kaput.
Surely poverty and hard living shall follow me all the days of His administration,
And my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever.
why do you get your panties in a bunch about the president of the US arent you Canadian?

why do you get your panties in a bunch about the president of the US arent you Canadian?

Because Bush is trying to outlaw the reimportation of Canadian panties.

Or, more likely, because America's shitty policies under Bush have an effect on Canada and the rest of the world? Why else do you think Bush is hated by a supermajority in almost every nation on Earth?

why do you get your panties in a bunch about the president of the US arent you Canadian?
First of all, my pants aren't knotted and secondly, most Canadians are concerned about our neighbours to the south.

We think the world is more dangerous since Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq and I tend to agree.

IMHO, John Kerry can "do better".

First of all, my pants aren't knotted and secondly, most Canadians are concerned about our neighbours to the south.

We think the world is more dangerous since Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq and I tend to agree.

IMHO, John Kerry can "do better".


see, but its really none of your bisness. If you dont live here, stop bothering us about our politics

The US weren't taking a likewise approach to politics in a certain other nation...

see, but its really none of your bisness. If you dont live here, stop bothering us about our politics

I'm American. Bush sucks. That is all.

The US weren't taking a likewise approach to politics in a certain other nation...
It is a wonderful contradiction: Americans who support the invasion want other countries to screw off and not bother them about their politics because their internal affairs are no business of other nations. ON the other hand, those in other countries who are opposed to the war say that the US shouldn't interfere in the internal affairs of other nations, and then go on to tell Americans how they should vote.... what a wonderfully logical world we live in.

Yup, exactly.

With the only difference of Iraq being a crappy small third-world dictatorship whose only victims were its own people, and the US being a major superpower that has the capability to destroy all of humanity several times over with their WMDs.

Tell me, which of the two should the international community take more of an interest in with regards to internal politics? ;)

see, but its really none of your bisness. If you dont live here, stop bothering us about our politics
While I don't live in the US, I have vacationed there many times over the years. Actually your business is our business in the simple fact that we are each others largest trading partners.

We are also tied to the US with many bilateral agreements affecting the economy, the environment, security, armed forces, etc.

Yes we do have a vested interest in who you elect as President and the majority of us would elect John Kerry.

Bush was doing okay until he invaded Iraq and it has been all downhill since then.

The bush administration is the most systematically dishonest in our nation's history.

Satan is the father of lies.

The prayer of the bushie is two words: "Hail Satan"

All I have to say is that Bush is inhuman when it comes to social and domestic issues. In foreign affairs, though he has isolated the US from various foreign nations and the majority of the world [people], I tend to agree with his idea of attacking one country in the middle east after another: I'm damn tired of hearing about those countries squabbling with every democratic/republican/secular country they come into contact with and continuously abusing their own people. I don't care that he lied about the reasons for going to war, I just want some f*cking peace and quiet... Even if it does mean we increase our national debt (which we will never get rid of anyways), or lose a couple of [drop-out/lower class] soldiers.

why do you get your panties in a bunch about the president of the US arent you Canadian?

mmmm pantsu.

mmmm pantsu.
CHII!! :D

ok, lemme pause for a second. You think that because your our biggest trading partners, and youve vactioned here, that you should get qa say in our vote? That kinda scares me, but anyway: i may support bush, but it does not mean i support every fucking action he takes!!! its none of your business who we elect, but its none of ours who you elect. Simple, huh? also, i am getting SO tired of you fools having nothing better to say than: bush is a liar. vote kerry. He went to war. Vote kerry. Talk about the theft of an election...

ok, lemme pause for a second. You think that because your our biggest trading partners, and youve vactioned here, that you should get qa say in our vote? That kinda scares me, but anyway: i may support bush, but it does not mean i support every fucking action he takes!!! its none of your business who we elect, but its none of ours who you elect. Simple, huh? also, i am getting SO tired of you fools having nothing better to say than: bush is a liar. vote kerry. He went to war. Vote kerry. Talk about the theft of an election...
It becomes our business when a nation's domestic policies are forced upon other nations. The War in Iraq is a fine example of this. The US could have waited, but they didn't, and now they have imported their domestic policies to this nation. And you and other Americans wonder why the rest of the world suddnely cares about who is elected?

Simple: if the American government is going to police the world, and preach democracy, the rest of the world should get a say.

sure. Mess with Iraq. Ok. That can be a world affair, because it not our country, our your country. How was there last government. I ask you this. Lets say for a sec that Sadaam wasn't a threat to us, at all. What about his people. how many did he kill. That, with possible wmd's, and you still don't think that it was a "smart war"?


PS: I'm starting to like this place. It gives me the warm and homey feeling that makes me think that it will lure me in, and then steal my soul.

It becomes our business when a nation's domestic policies are forced upon other nations. The War in Iraq is a fine example of this. The US could have waited, but they didn't, and now they have imported their domestic policies to this nation. And you and other Americans wonder why the rest of the world suddnely cares about who is elected?

Simple: if the American government is going to police the world, and preach democracy, the rest of the world should get a say.

Yeah, how dare we force freedom on dangerously unstable nations?

We could have waited? Yeah, maybe we should have waited ANOTHER 12 years for Saddam to listen to more worthless U.N. Resolutions.

I don't understand your arguments of Bush "rushing" into war. You know that every one of you wanted to beat the crap out of terrorists when you saw two planes fly into our country's economic center. Bush waited two years after that, and then you all cry "Why did Bush rush?" Make up your minds, people, you can't have it both ways.

I swear, there's no pleasing you people. If we do something about the world's problems, we're "forcing our beliefs", if we leave it alone, we're being arrogant isolationists.

sure. Mess with Iraq. Ok. That can be a world affair, because it not our country, our your country. How was there last government. I ask you this. Lets say for a sec that Sadaam wasn't a threat to us, at all. What about his people. how many did he kill. That, with possible wmd's, and you still don't think that it was a "smart war"?
Actually, no.

This could have been dealt with in a different manner.

Possible WMDs? o...k... They didn't have the nuclear building capabilities. They had the intent - this is post-1991- Gulf War.

Yes, he did torture his people, but, what about all the other nations where similar atrocities happen, even if on a smalle scale? Why wasn't there something done about them?

After all, if it was a "smart war", it would have been a war to free oppressed people of all nations. There is nothing good about this war regardless of the situation.

We could have waited? Yeah, maybe we should have waited ANOTHER 12 years for Saddam to listen to more worthless U.N. Resolutions.

You can interpret waiting as in years. But, ever stop and consider that most of the world would have preferred a bit of a wait if it meant that the inspectors could finish what they started out to do.

I don't understand your arguments of Bush "rushing" into war. You know that every one of you wanted to beat the crap out of terrorists when you saw two planes fly into our country's economic center. Bush waited two years after that, and then you all cry "Why did Bush rush?" Make up your minds, people, you can't have it both ways.

Actually, no, I didn't. I wanted to know if two of my cousins who worked in the WTC were fine and if my family in Manhatten were ok.

Sure people were crying for bin Laden's head on a plate, but if he rushed into war against the terrorists like he did with Iraq maybe there would have been less of a problem.

I swear, there's no pleasing you people. If we do something about the world's problems, we're "forcing our beliefs", if we leave it alone, we're being arrogant isolationists.
If you keep to yourselves, you're doing the rest of us a favour.

ok, lemme pause for a second. You think that because your our biggest trading partners, and youve vactioned here, that you should get qa say in our vote? That kinda scares me, but anyway: i may support bush, but it does not mean i support every fucking action he takes!!! its none of your business who we elect, but its none of ours who you elect. Simple, huh? also, i am getting SO tired of you fools having nothing better to say than: bush is a liar. vote kerry. He went to war. Vote kerry. Talk about the theft of an election...
Because I have an opinion I am a "fool"? Well think as you wish but I think the only people that are getting fooled, are those who vote for a man that has done a lot of damage to a country that I used to admire greatly.

If you think that four more years of the same failed policies or (shudder) worse policies is in your best interest than by all means go for it. Bush stated that he was a "uniter" and from what I can see, it is more like a divider, not only at home but abroad.

Because I have an opinion I am a "fool"? Well think as you wish but I think the only people that are getting fooled, are those who vote for a man that has done a lot of damage to a country that I used to admire greatly.

If you think that four more years of the same failed policies or (shudder) worse policies is in your best interest than by all means go for it. Bush stated that he was a "uniter" and from what I can see, it is more like a divider, not only at home but abroad.


wait!!! I never called you a fool. I respect the opinion. I was angry with the people who complain about bush and say "kerry can fix it, kerry won purple hearts!!!"

sure. Mess with Iraq. Ok. That can be a world affair, because it not our country, our your country. How was there last government. I ask you this. Lets say for a sec that Sadaam wasn't a threat to us, at all. What about his people. how many did he kill. That, with possible wmd's, and you still don't think that it was a "smart war"?


PS: I'm starting to like this place. It gives me the warm and homey feeling that makes me think that it will lure me in, and then steal my soul.

The supposed "liberation" of the Iraqi people became a convenient excuse Bush switched to for justifying the invasion when the prospects of finding actual WMDs became less and less likely. Bush probably didn't give a rat's ass about the Iraqis who suffered under Hussein until he thought they would make a nice Justification B when Justification A (the WMDs) started floundering.

Similiarly, Bush clearly didn't think anything at all much less give a damn about the Taliban running Afghanistan and treating women like pieces of meat until Bin Ladin ducked there following 9/11.

Yeah, how dare we force freedom on dangerously unstable nations?

We could have waited? Yeah, maybe we should have waited ANOTHER 12 years for Saddam to listen to more worthless U.N. Resolutions.

I don't understand your arguments of Bush "rushing" into war. You know that every one of you wanted to beat the crap out of terrorists when you saw two planes fly into our country's economic center. Bush waited two years after that, and then you all cry "Why did Bush rush?" Make up your minds, people, you can't have it both ways.

I swear, there's no pleasing you people. If we do something about the world's problems, we're "forcing our beliefs", if we leave it alone, we're being arrogant isolationists.
Iraq had nothing to do with those two planes flying into NY's WTC.

Saddam was harmless and Bush knew that, and took advantage of that fact.

BTW, you can't "force" democracy on people that don't want it?

wait!!! I never called you a fool. I respect the opinion. I was angry with the people who complain about bush and say "kerry can fix it, kerry won purple hearts!!!"
I don't think people are saying Kerry can fix it because he won "purple hearts". They are saying that he can fix it because he has a different plan than the Bush administration.

Yeah, how dare we force freedom on dangerously unstable nations?

We could have waited? Yeah, maybe we should have waited ANOTHER 12 years for Saddam to listen to more worthless U.N. Resolutions.

I don't understand your arguments of Bush "rushing" into war. You know that every one of you wanted to beat the crap out of terrorists when you saw two planes fly into our country's economic center. Bush waited two years after that, and then you all cry "Why did Bush rush?" Make up your minds, people, you can't have it both ways.

I swear, there's no pleasing you people. If we do something about the world's problems, we're "forcing our beliefs", if we leave it alone, we're being arrogant isolationists.


Your arguement would hold water if Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.

It didnt.

It had no ties to al-qeada, no wmd's, and no way to give terrorists such things.

In short, Saddam was not a threat to us, or our interests.

I'm getting sick of people saying "well, Saddam was mean to his people."

Guess what? Before the war?

NOBODY GAVE SHIT!

Not one person cared at all about Iraq. Most people didn't even know where the fuck it was. It was only AFTER we invaded that people thought "Hey, wait, we're being nice, arn't we? Yeah, we are. Of COURSE we are! We're fucking America, of course we're being nice! And,uh, we planned it to!"


NO
MORE
BITCHING
ABOUT
SADDAM
BEING
AN
ASSHOLE

Because NOBODY CARED.

see, but its really none of your bisness. If you dont live here, stop bothering us about our politics

Ya, free speech is for Americans only pal. That's why we blasted those commies in the revolutionary war, so we could say whatever we like. If you gotta problem with that then you go to war over it. Otherwise shut up cause we don't appreciate people talking like they got somethin' ta say here in the land of the free. Here in America we got rights and freedom and stuff so if you don't like what our government does you can go live in some other country. Oh, wait...

I'm getting sick of people saying "well, Saddam was mean to his people."

Guess what? Before the war?

NOBODY GAVE SHIT!

Not one person cared at all about Iraq. Most people didn't even know where the fuck it was. It was only AFTER we invaded that people thought "Hey, wait, we're being nice, arn't we? Yeah, we are. Of COURSE we are! We're fucking America, of course we're being nice! And,uh, we planned it to!"


NO
MORE
BITCHING
ABOUT
SADDAM
BEING
AN
ASSHOLE

Because NOBODY CARED.

Um... who are you and why do you think you have the right to speak for everyone in America. I cared about Iraq. Ever hear of the Persian Gulf War?

Saddam Hussein was a mass murderer, a viscious tyrant, and a threat. He harbored terrorists. And he did have WMD's at one time, and was planning to develop another weapons system. He had ignored resolution after resolution, and had tricked weapon inspectors time after time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6196962/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135973,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/06/07/cia.mobile.labs/index.html

Imagine you are the president. It is two years after the 9/11 attacks. The war in Afghanistan isn't going too bad, but you're not finding all the terrorists. You have a report that Iraq has WMD's. You have a report that there is a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda. You have a report that Iraq is harboring terrorists. You have the knowledge that Saddam is slaughtering his people, probably w/ WMD's that could later be used on us. Now, in the interest of the "Global War On Terror", how could you NOT do what he did? And I refuse to listen to your foolish "he rushed in" arguments. I watch the news. I can't tell you how sick I was of hearing day after day for a year that the inspectors weren't finding anything.

Besides, does our ignorance or lack of compassion before the war, excuse it after the war?

http://protestwarrior.com/new_signs.php?sign=5

Time to invade and take the dude out.

1) He REALLY has WMD.
2) There's still loads of oil in Texas.

Lol, I always have a good laugh when america says we invaded to help the iraqi people. Its not like we are doing anything against NK, and other abusers.

Reminds me of Iran in the 70's. Was our best friend, until the Pro-us Shah(Who was a much worse abuser of rights than Saddam could have dreamed) was deposed.

If you wanna say we did something good, go ahead. But saying we invaded because of human rights is either a lie, or the administration is a gaggle of idiots who couldn't see that Iraq wasn't high on the list of abusers.

The WMD report, bs as well. There were much more credible reports that North Korea was getting weapons. We knew Israel had WMD(But wait, Israels our friend, nevermind ;)), we knew many other nations were getting the potential.

So why did we invade Iraq? To divert attention from domestic problems and the failure to capture osama. Why Iraq? Horribly weakened military from post-gulf war sanctions, and they would be able to make excuses up about it that seemed semi-plausible.