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Ahem, here are the reasons I'm glad I'm not an American...

"OH, YOU'RE ONE OF THE SODOMITES. YOU SHOULD ONLY GET AIDS AND DIE, YOU PIG. HOW'S THAT? WHY DON'T YOU SEE IF YOU CAN SUE ME, YOU PIG. YOU GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT ME DOWN, YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE? YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO TODAY, GO EAT A SAUSAGE AND CHOKE ON IT."

- Michael Savage

"ANYTHING [liberals] CAN DO TO BRING DOWN CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM IS GOOD FOR THEM. BECAUSE THEIR MINDS ARE WARPED, BECAUSE LIBERALISM IS NOT A PHILOSOPHY, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER."

- Michael Savage

"GOD SAYS, 'EARTH IS YOURS. TAKE IT. RAPE IT. IT'S YOURS.' "

-Ann Coutler

"WE NEED TO EXECUTE PEOPLE LIKE JOHN WALKER IN ORDER TO PHYSICALLY INTIMIDATE LIBERALS, BY MAKING THEM REALIZE THAT THEY CAN BE KILLED, TOO. OTHERWISE THEY WILL TURN INTO OUTRIGHT TRAITORS!"

- Ann Coutler

"WE SHOULD INVADE THEIR COUNTRIES, KILL THEIR LEADERS AND CONVERT THEM INTO CHRISTIANITY!"

- Ann Coutler (on September 11 terrorists)

"IT IS TRUE THAT IF YOU ARE POOR AND CAN'T AFFORD A LAWYER, YOUR ODDS OF GOING TO PRISON SKYROCKET. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? TOUGH!"

- Bill O'Reilly

"FEMINISM WAS ESTABLISHED SO AS TO ALLOW UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN EASIER ACCESS TO THE MAINSTREAM OF SOCIETY!"

- Rush Limbaugh

"YOU GUYS ON THE LEFT, YOU WEREN'T THERE IN THE COLD WAR, YOU'RE NOT HERE NOW. IF WE EVER LISTEN TO YOU, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE BOWING AT THE FEET OF SOME DICTATOR SOMEPLACE ELSE!"

- Sean Hannity

"THEY'RE A BUNCH OF GUTLESS, SPINELESS COWARDS!"

- Sean Hannity (on Hollywood leftists)

"CANADA IS A LEFT-WING, SOCIALIST BASKET CASE. WHAT KIND OF FRIENDS ARE THEY?"

- Sean Hannity

And I thought John Laws and Alan Jones were bad... :eek:

Coulter, Hannity, Limbuagh, Savage,and O'Reilly...

The worst of the worst.

lol
but...

"FEMINISM WAS ESTABLISHED SO AS TO ALLOW UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN EASIER ACCESS TO THE MAINSTREAM OF SOCIETY!"

- Rush Limbaugh

is this so wrong? ;)

Coulter, Hannity, Limbuagh, Savage,and O'Reilly...

The worst of the worst.

But they would burn with such a clean hot flame. Great for bonfires on cold nights. :D

Coulter, Hannity, Limbuagh, Savage,and O'Reilly...

The worst of the worst.

Hannity and Oreilly are somewhat reasonable, if misguided. The other three, talking to would be like talking to a brick wall.

The other three, talking to would be like talking to a brick wall.

but with fewer conversation skills.

Ahem, here are the reasons I'm glad I'm not an American...

They're not all bad, to be fair. There are plenty of dickheads over here too.

I'm not disagreeing with you. We have to put up with Alan Jones, a maniacal facist who would like to take over Australia and John Laws who has the two divine powers of voodoo, country and western

I'm not disagreeing with you. We have to put up with Alan Jones, a maniacal facist who would like to take over Australia and John Laws who has the two divine powers of voodoo, country and western

We have Robert Kilroy-Silk, and the rest of The UK Independence "we don't have any racists in our party, honest" Party.

Lol, New Zealand has a power hungry (trying to turn us into a dictatorship) lesbian (who should b in the top 5 ugliest women list) as current prime minister.
the people in our country should b banned from voting purely cos the elected such an ugly representative if nothing else :(

We have Robert Kilroy-Silk, and the rest of The UK Independence "we don't have any racists in our party, honest" Party.


they are almost as bad as the BNP...another classy little outfit :mad:

Ahem, here are the reasons I'm glad I'm not an American...

"OH, YOU'RE ONE OF THE SODOMITES. YOU SHOULD ONLY GET AIDS AND DIE, YOU PIG. HOW'S THAT? WHY DON'T YOU SEE IF YOU CAN SUE ME, YOU PIG. YOU GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT ME DOWN, YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE? YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO TODAY, GO EAT A SAUSAGE AND CHOKE ON IT."

- Michael Savage

"ANYTHING [liberals] CAN DO TO BRING DOWN CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM IS GOOD FOR THEM. BECAUSE THEIR MINDS ARE WARPED, BECAUSE LIBERALISM IS NOT A PHILOSOPHY, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER."

- Michael Savage

"GOD SAYS, 'EARTH IS YOURS. TAKE IT. RAPE IT. IT'S YOURS.' "

-Ann Coutler

"WE NEED TO EXECUTE PEOPLE LIKE JOHN WALKER IN ORDER TO PHYSICALLY INTIMIDATE LIBERALS, BY MAKING THEM REALIZE THAT THEY CAN BE KILLED, TOO. OTHERWISE THEY WILL TURN INTO OUTRIGHT TRAITORS!"

- Ann Coutler

"WE SHOULD INVADE THEIR COUNTRIES, KILL THEIR LEADERS AND CONVERT THEM INTO CHRISTIANITY!"

- Ann Coutler (on September 11 terrorists)

"IT IS TRUE THAT IF YOU ARE POOR AND CAN'T AFFORD A LAWYER, YOUR ODDS OF GOING TO PRISON SKYROCKET. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? TOUGH!"

- Bill O'Reilly

"FEMINISM WAS ESTABLISHED SO AS TO ALLOW UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN EASIER ACCESS TO THE MAINSTREAM OF SOCIETY!"

- Rush Limbaugh

"YOU GUYS ON THE LEFT, YOU WEREN'T THERE IN THE COLD WAR, YOU'RE NOT HERE NOW. IF WE EVER LISTEN TO YOU, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE BOWING AT THE FEET OF SOME DICTATOR SOMEPLACE ELSE!"

- Sean Hannity

"THEY'RE A BUNCH OF GUTLESS, SPINELESS COWARDS!"

- Sean Hannity (on Hollywood leftists)

"CANADA IS A LEFT-WING, SOCIALIST BASKET CASE. WHAT KIND OF FRIENDS ARE THEY?"

- Sean Hannity

And I thought John Laws and Alan Jones were bad... :eek:


First of all, it was a nice touch to forget to mention all the hateful things liberals say. :finds a huge sign that says LAME and shoves it in your face:

Second, you have to realize something. Michael Savage and Ann coulter are entertainers. A lot of the things they say are jokes. What about comedian's racist jokes? You don't rag on them, do you? Why not? It's the same thing, isn't it?

And, specifically, the first savage quote, you have to understand where he was coming from. A gay man called in on his television show and set him up to get fired. Savage wasn't even anti-gay. He didn't deserve what he got. I would be pissed too if someone who I didn't know and had never done anything wrong to got me fired because they didn't like that I was a conservative.

What's wrong with hannity comparing liberals to dictators? Democrats compare Bush to Hitler! Besides, if any side is closer to communism, socialism, dictatorship, etc..., it's definitely the left.

I agree w/ Hannity about Hollywooders.

I somewhat agree w/ Hannity about Canada. All they've ever done is nothing.

And btw, that quote from Rush Limbaugh is funny :p

Lol, New Zealand has a power hungry (trying to turn us into a dictatorship) lesbian (who should b in the top 5 ugliest women list) as current prime minister.
the people in our country should b banned from voting purely cos the elected such an ugly representative if nothing else :(
I did some research. She's not a lesbian, although the opposition has stooped to smearing her as such (it shows their mindset that calling someone a lesbian is an "attack") :rolleyes:

First of all, it was a nice touch to forget to mention all the hateful things liberals say. :finds a huge sign that says LAME and shoves it in your face:
Go put up some quotes then.

Second, you have to realize something. Michael Savage and Ann coulter are entertainers. A lot of the things they say are jokes. What about comedian's racist jokes? You don't rag on them, do you? Why not? It's the same thing, isn't it?
Dude, Savage and Coulter BELIEVE the shit they say. They are political commentators.

And, specifically, the first savage quote, you have to understand where he was coming from. A gay man called in on his television show and set him up to get fired. Savage wasn't even anti-gay. He didn't deserve what he got. I would be pissed too if someone who I didn't know and had never done anything wrong to got me fired because they didn't like that I was a conservative.
Savage has made numerous other homophobic comments. I'm not surprised hearing that from anyone so far right as Savage. He was fired because he was a hateful jerk. But hey, that's why we got talk radio.

What's wrong with hannity comparing liberals to dictators? Democrats compare Bush to Hitler! Besides, if any side is closer to communism, socialism, dictatorship, etc..., it's definitely the left.
I like how you seamlessly tie communism to dictatorship. You obviously have never heard of Adolph Hitler.

And btw, that quote from Rush Limbaugh is funny :p
Funny yes...kinda like a racist joke can be funny too...although it's disturbing if it's actually a racist saying it. Get my point?

First of all, it was a nice touch to forget to mention all the hateful things liberals say. :finds a huge sign that says LAME and shoves it in your face:



Liberalism is about not saying hateful things. That's why on the whole liberals are nice. It's liberal to be nice.


Second, you have to realize something. Michael Savage and Ann coulter are entertainers. A lot of the things they say are jokes. What about comedian's racist jokes? You don't rag on them, do you? Why not? It's the same thing, isn't it?


Although telling a racist joke isn't the same as advocating racist social and economic policies, liberals do very much rag on racist comedians. This ragging is called "political correctness". Lots of liberals like it because it means "not being rude to people, or about people". Lots of right wingers hate it because they gain power by being rude and divisive.


And, specifically, the first savage quote, you have to understand where he was coming from. A gay man called in on his television show and set him up to get fired. Savage wasn't even anti-gay. He didn't deserve what he got. I would be pissed too if someone who I didn't know and had never done anything wrong to got me fired because they didn't like that I was a conservative.


Surely he didn't get fired until after he'd said those threatening things to his caller?


What's wrong with hannity comparing liberals to dictators? Democrats compare Bush to Hitler! Besides, if any side is closer to communism, socialism, dictatorship, etc..., it's definitely the left.


What's wrong with reading something before you comment on it? Hannity isn't comparing left wingers to dictators. He is propagating the NeoCon lie that if left wing social and economic policies are followed, your nation will be invaded by some distant threatening dictatorial power.


I somewhat agree w/ Hannity about Canada. All they've ever done is nothing.


You agree that Canada, the best country in the world to live in by the UN tests of the income, health, comfort, safety etc of the inhabitants, is a socialist basket case? In that case you are simply ignorant.

These right wingers are lieing to you, deliberately, to scare you into doing what they say. Wake up. Go to Canada for a holiday, for instance, and see what it is like.

We have Robert Kilroy-Silk, and the rest of The UK Independence "we don't have any racists in our party, honest" Party.

Kilroy has absolutly lost the plot, he is going insane.

I also heard that he is running out of cash to keep funding the party, (if im wrong someone say so !).

Idiot.

Those people in the original quote are all morons. Where is this "liberal media" conservatives are always whining about? :rolleyes:
Originally Posted by Interesting Slums
Lol, New Zealand has a power hungry (trying to turn us into a dictatorship) lesbian (who should b in the top 5 ugliest women list) as current prime minister.
the people in our country should b banned from voting purely cos the elected such an ugly representative if nothing else

I have seen no evidence that Helen Clark is "power hungry." Care to provide evidence? If anything she's less power-hungry than our exalted leader John Howard who tries to kiss as much of George Bush's arse in hope of becoming deputy "leader of the 'free' world." And OMG, you find a female politician unattractive! So fuckin what??? Male politicians aren't exactly beautiful... Judge her on her policies if anything. Seriously, people need to get over this shit. Women in politics can't escape this ridiculous backward harping on their appearance. It even holds attractive women back- look at the "scandal" Natasja Stott Despoja caused by appearing in a swimsuit in an ad...

is this so wrong?
So you dislike feminism AND interracial people? I suppose for people like you ignorance really is bliss... :rolleyes:

Kilroy has absolutly lost the plot, he is going insane.

I also heard that he is running out of cash to keep funding the party, (if im wrong someone say so !).

Idiot.

Kilroy's got a lot of the party convinced that they are a real party, saying they're going to stand against incumbents who want to quit europe. So their biggest backer, who really only wanted UKIP to exist to scare the tories into going anti-europe, has dropped out.

With any luck they'll be skint by christmas.

Second, you have to realize something. Michael Savage and Ann coulter are entertainers. A lot of the things they say are jokes. What about comedian's racist jokes? You don't rag on them, do you? Why not? It's the same thing, isn't it?

In the UK racist (or old fashioned) comedians have almost been entirely replaced with the alternative (left leaning) comedy started in the 1980's. It's reached a point where you will be unlikely to hear "English men, Irish men and Scottish men jokes" (which seem to have parrellals in all countries,) and the UK has one of the most vibrant comedy scenes in the world, possibly because of this inclusiveness.

Now if we could only get rid of Jim Davidson :gundge:

all those people you quoted, DID NOT TYPE ALL IN CAPS OR SHOUT WHEN THEY SAID ALL THOSE THINGS CAPS = SHOUTING

and whats so wrong with those quotes, get bent.

all those people you quoted, DID NOT TYPE ALL IN CAPS OR SHOUT WHEN THEY SAID ALL THOSE THINGS CAPS = SHOUTING

and whats so wrong with those quotes, get bent.



ohhh, someboday is feeling constructive in their arguments today

What did you expect with a name like that?

all those people you quoted, DID NOT TYPE ALL IN CAPS OR SHOUT WHEN THEY SAID ALL THOSE THINGS CAPS = SHOUTING

and whats so wrong with those quotes, get bent.

Into what shape?

What did you expect with a name like that?


fair point :D

all those people you quoted, DID NOT TYPE ALL IN CAPS OR SHOUT WHEN THEY SAID ALL THOSE THINGS CAPS = SHOUTING

and whats so wrong with those quotes, get bent.

Perhaps I wanted to illustrate a point about the agressiveness of right-wing society. Oh and I'm sure Savage would be shouting anyway

"CANADA IS A LEFT-WING, SOCIALIST BASKET CASE. WHAT KIND OF FRIENDS ARE THEY?"

- Sean Hannity



I somewhat agree w/ Hannity about Canada. All they've ever done is nothing.


"The Canadian forces that landed on Juno Beach faced 11 heavy batteries of 155 mm guns and 9 medium batteries of 75 mm guns, as well as machine-gun nests, pillboxes, other concrete fortifications, and a seawall twice the height of the one at Omaha Beach. The first wave suffered 50 per cent casualties, the highest of any of the five D-Day beachheads except Omaha. ...Despite the obstacles, within hours the Canadians were off the beach and beginning their advance inland. ...By the end of D-Day, 14,000 Canadians had been successfully landed, and the 3rd Canadian Division had penetrated further into France than any other Allied force, despite having faced such strong resistance at the beachhead."
-- Wikipedia - Battle of Normandy, Juno Beach ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Normandy#Juno_Beach )

"Canadian troops did play a valuable role in the fighting and distinguished themselves at the Battle of Kapyong and in other land engagements. HMCS Haida and other ships of the Royal Canadian Navy were in active service in the Korean conflict. Canada sent over 25,000 troops to fight in Korea. There were 1,558 Canadian casualties including 516 dead."
-- Wikipedia - Military History of Canada ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada#Canada_in_Korea )

"Canada was one of the first nations to agree to condemn Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and it quickly agreed to join the U.S. lead coalition. In August Prime Minister Brian Mulroney sent the destroyers HMCS Terra Nova and HMCS Athabaskan to enforce the trade blockade against Iraq. The supply ship HMCS Protecteur was also sent to aid the gathering coalition forces. When the UN authorized full use of force in the operation Canada sent a CF18 squadron with support personnel. Canada also sent a field hospital to deal with casualties from the ground war."
-- Wikipedia - Military History of Canada ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada#Canada_in_the_Gulf_War_and_Afghanistan )

"Canada also joined a U.S. coalition in the 2001 Attack on Afghanistan. The war was a response to the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks and its goal was to defeat the Taliban government and rout Al-Qaeda. Canada sent special forces and ground troops to the conflict. ...After the war, Canada formed an important part of the NATO-led peacekeeping force."
-- Wikipedia - Military History of Canada ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada#Canada_in_the_Gulf_War_and_Afghanistan )

"In 2003, Canada refused to take part in the 2003 invasion of Iraq unless it was approved by the United Nations. ...Since the American invasion, Canada has had warships in Gulf area as part of Operation Apollo. Effectively, these ships have been protecting US forces but their presence is justified by Canada's commitment to NATO and an all-important UN resolution."
-- Wikipedia - Military History of Canada ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada#Canada_in_the_Gulf_War_and_Afghanistan )

"The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) is a binational military organization formally established in 1958 by Canada and the United States to monitor and defend North American airspace."
-- NORAD - Who We Are: History ( http://www.norad.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.who_we_are_history )

Since WWII, through Korea, Gulf War I, Afghanistan, and even now in Iraq as a member of NATO, Canada has been, and continues to be, a valuable friend and ally.

... I can only apologize for the rabid jingoistic populism that has swept through our uneducated populace and that substitutes for reasoned discourse. You see, propogandistic rhetoric notwithstanding, the true liberal must be inclusive enough to take personal responsibility for his ongoing ineffectiveness at shaming the arrogant gun-brandishing hate-mongers who masquerade as Christians (As I recall, Christianity is a religion that holds dear the values of peace, love and charity -- none of which seem to be held dear by NeoCon "Christians".)

And frankly, one can't help but empathize with the forty-or-fifty million people here whose neural pathways weren't effectively developed in their formative years, leaving them so deathly afraid of anything that looks, smells, acts, or dresses differently from them that they feel they must shoot and kill it to re-establish their own sense of security in the world... so deathly afraid of any other opinion that they feel they must denigrate and marginalize anyone who dares to voice one... so deathly afraid of losing their putative position of social dominance that they must perpetuate ad nauseum the long American tradition begun in earnest by Millard Fillmore after his ejection from the White House and carried forward proudly by the 21st-century Republican Party, the tradition of fostering fear and hatred for anything and anyone that isn't a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Male or its surrogate.

We take these truths to be self-evident? Indeed. 'nuff said.

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u know one time, 1/5 of all canadain tanks were on this civillan ship and canada wasnt paying them for transport, so the ship wouldnt give the tanks so canadain special operations assaulted the ship to get the tanks


well, that was the greatest military victory canada has ever had so i would think most of u heard about it

u know one time, 1/5 of all canadain tanks were on this civillan ship and canada wasnt paying them for transport, so the ship wouldnt give the tanks so canadain special operations assaulted the ship to get the tanks


well, that was the greatest military victory canada has ever had so i would think most of u heard about it

I haven't but I'm not a Canadian history buff, I just like the place.

Canada gave the world Celine Dion dammit!


hahahahahahahaha

Canada gave the world Celine Dion dammit!


hahahahahahahaha


i thought she was swiss but gained Canadian nationality, caus she represented switzerland in the utter naffness that is the eurovision song contest... :(

i thought she was swiss but gained Canadian nationality, caus she represented switzerland in the utter naffness that is the eurovision song contest... :(


Hmm, I thought she was actually French Canadian but I suppose I don't really know. Not a big fan. So....Canada gave us..........William Shatner?

Don't know if this has been said.

I'm actually glad to be an American because I have to right to say whatever I like.

Sure the 4 you listed can be a bit right of center, ok a lot right of center. But you can find an equal number of far lefties that are just as bad.

God Bless America.

Kellarly, what nationality are you, if I may ask?

Kellarly, what nationality are you, if I may ask?


British, why do you ask?

British, why do you ask?


Just curious really. I'm afraid I'm a damned American.

British, why do you ask?

Arthur Scargill was a favorite of mine in the 80's. He was always good for a laugh and made our far right guys look tame. At least they have not tried to take over the government.

Just curious really. I'm afraid I'm a damned American.


Nowt wrong with being american...betcha don't hear that too often on these boards...

Hey hey HEY! We're not all like that. Stop for a minute and breathe. Most Americans are just like people from your country, just they talk funny. That doesn't mean that we don't let idiots represent us in the media or in politics. I'm sure your politicians are the acme of honest humanitarianism. I bet your media is completely honest and unbiased, too.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

America is generally more conservative than Europe and Canada. You take New England, the Pacific Coast minus Alaska, and Hawaii and then you have something closer to Europe and Canada.

Hey hey HEY! We're not all like that. Stop for a minute and breathe. Most Americans are just like people from your country, just they talk funny. That doesn't mean that we don't let idiots represent us in the media or in politics. I'm sure your politicians are the acme of honest humanitarianism. I bet your media is completely honest and unbiased, too.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.


Hey, i didn't criticise anybody, i know you not all like that. After having visited your country, new england to be precise, i met a variety of people..like the irish americans in boston who wanted to punch my lights out for being english, the guy from st.louis who enthused about his gun collection, the ski lift operator who was a democrat party member etc etc so i know your not all the same... believe me, its the same in every country and always will be.

Hey, i didn't criticise anybody, i know you not all like that. After having visited your country, new england to be precise, i met a variety of people..like the irish americans in boston who wanted to punch my lights out for being english, the guy from st.louis who enthused about his gun collection, the ski lift operator who was a democrat party member etc etc so i know your not all the same... believe me, its the same in every country and always will be.

Bloody hell. I can't believe that. Of course, I might have an irish name, but I don't think of myself as irish. I know damned well that I was born in the US, and that I have no claim to anything in Ireland. It's a shame they felt so strongly about a place they've very likely never seen, enough so to want to hurt you as a representative of the UK.

As for the gun thing, I think most people in the UK are sorry they let that become a law. Now it's just the police and thieves that own them. The rest of you just hope they never cross your paths.

I'm sorry I mistook your quotes from questionable representatives of the US for criticism of us all. I apologise for the misunderstanding.

Bloody hell. I can't believe that. Of course, I might have an irish name, but I don't think of myself as irish. I know damned well that I was born in the US, and that I have no claim to anything in Ireland. It's a shame they felt so strongly about a place they've very likely never seen, enough so to want to hurt you as a representative of the UK.

As for the gun thing, I think most people in the UK are sorry they let that become a law. Now it's just the police and thieves that own them. The rest of you just hope they never cross your paths.

I'm sorry I mistook your quotes from questionable representatives of the US for criticism of us all. I apologise for the misunderstanding.


hey don't worry about it, for the amount of grief some people get on here for being american its understandable that sometimes you leap to your own defence...

as for the gun thing, i would like to see very limited ownership, licensing police checks training...the lot. As for what you could buy... no hand guns, just shotguns and some rifles for farmers (i'd prefer that to hunting with hounds) and sport rifles etc etc, no automatics or anything above a stupid powerful cartridge size. but i don't think it wold happen. on current polls we are more likely to get the death penalty back than allow guns back...

And I thought John Laws and Alan Jones were bad... :eek:

At least the people quoted were being true to themselves, and manipulated in tone by the one who quoted them.

I do not like facades. I'll take an openly evil person over a closet "good guy" as a friend any day.



Liberalism is about not saying hateful things. That's why on the whole liberals are nice. It's liberal to be nice.

You are wrong. It's Liberal to tolerate other people being the way they are while not neccesarily changing the way you are because other people should tolerate you.

Emotional states/Composure, feelings, and the voicing of those feelings from the liberal in question are completely irrelevant.

All you need be is inwardly tolerant, you do not need to be nice nor complimentary...in fact you can be downright rude. As long as you don't mind people being that way, it's all gravy.

The most cynical, rude, and back-biting individuals I've met were self-professed liberals. I count the majority of them among my friends because they are honest about it when I call them on it.

If you change yourself to be a liberal, you've just busted the point of the ideology.

Pat yourself on the back, then get outta my face. :p



... I can only apologize for the...

Hey Independant Homesteads! Here's a peice of proof.

There's nothing "nice" about it. In fact, it is a downright nasty (if well typed, to an extent [at least it's legible]) not-so veiled insult to a lot of people in America.

Liberalism would compell me to tolerate it. But then...I never said I was liberal. So I'll simplify it for those who neural pathways are still not developed, and let them in on what is going on.

You know. "Slow" people deserve to know, too. Let's be...tolerant.


...(thinking.thinking.ooh!.)

"I can only apologize for the rabid jingoistic populism that has swept through our uneducated populace and that substitutes for reasoned discourse."

... Dear Anyonewhoisnotamericans, I'm typing this out to look different and better than my peers, the rabid flag-waving patriots currently ("populism" looks like a good word, lets use it..wonder what it means? ) supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against the privileged elite, as those uncivilized yokels tend to do, and are not listening to reason.


"You see, propogandistic rhetoric notwithstanding, the true liberal must be inclusive enough to take personal responsibility for his ongoing ineffectiveness at shaming the arrogant gun-brandishing hate-mongers who masquerade as Christians (As I recall, Christianity is a religion that holds dear the values of peace, love and charity -- none of which seem to be held dear by NeoCon "Christians".)"

You see, erm... I think we've gotta be secure enough in our inclusiveness that we can exclude people and get them to change but these people who won't give up their pretty boom-sticks are all, like, hypocritical and stuff already and it's really throwing a wrench in the works.


"And frankly, one can't help but empathize with the forty-or-fifty million people here whose neural pathways weren't effectively developed in their formative years, leaving them so deathly afraid of anything that looks, smells, acts, or dresses differently from them that they feel they must shoot and kill it to re-establish their own sense of security in the world...so deathly afraid of any other opinion that they feel they must denigrate and marginalize anyone who dares to voice one..."

So, like, we all should feel bad for the retarded people here. They don't like the things we do, and want to hunt and collect guns be independant of our political aims and stuff.

But above all, they think differently than us...so that's why they have got to be retarded. But it's okay to call them that. They'll never figure it out cause we are all nice and stuff. And if someone does, we can always point fingers at another person on their side.

"so deathly afraid of losing their putative position of social dominance that they must perpetuate ad nauseum the long American tradition begun in earnest by Millard Fillmore after his ejection from the White House and carried forward proudly by the 21st-century Republican Party, the tradition of fostering fear and hatred for anything and anyone that isn't a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Male or its surrogate."

This'll blow right over their heads. I'll make fun of a dead man and the times in which he lived. Let's single out the Republicans, they are the strongest and dumbest enemy by far, Hehe. Oooh He was against federal rights over states rights! And slavery was a key issue during those times! Score! Let's ignore that he signed into law the abolition of the slave trade in the District of Columbia and that he refused to be a member of the Republican party and accepted the nomination to become president the "American" or "Know Nothing" party in 1856.

"We take these truths to be self-evident? Indeed. 'nuff said."

I agree, you've said a mouthful and so have I.


We can all stop the cycle, you know. We can all live peacefully. But then again, it requires willingness from all sides of the wheel.

That's a tough bit of cooperation to accomplish, though.

But as I like to say: "Possible, not plausible, but still possible."

Canada gave us Niel Young, Wayne Gretsky, and Bobby Orr, which by themselves is enough. However, they also gave us:

Musicians

k.d lang, Rush, Sarah Mclachlan, Joni Mitchel, Barenaked Ladies, The Guess Who, BTO, Crashtest Dummies, Avril Lavigne, Gordon Lightfoot, Alanis Morrisette, Shania Twain, Bryan Adams, Paul Shaffer, Lenard Cohen, Skinny Puppy

Actors

Besides William Shatner famous Canadian entertainers include: John Candy, Mike Meyers, Jim Carey, Pamela Lee Anderson, Neve Campbell, Catherine O'Hara, Jennifer Tilly, Donald Sutherland (and son Kiefer), Brendon Frasier, Keanu Reeves, Raymond Burr, Graham Greene, Jason Priestly, Norm MacDonald, Dave Foley (and Kids in the Hall), Christopher Plummer, Tom Green (okay, they have to answer for that), Dan Akroyd, Margot Kidder, Martin Short, Phil Hartman, Michael J. Fox, James Cameron (director)

Inventions

AM radio, IMAX, electron microscope, Hockey AND Basketball, telephone (yes, Alexander Graham Bell was Canadian), cable TV, washing machine, the zipper, snowmobile, electric car, air conditioned vehicles, insulin, and the Wonderbra, plus 14 Nobel Prizes have been won by Canadian scientists

If people around the world think all Americans are like the talking heads they see on TV, I feel sorry for them. I'm mean, when they see movies made in Hollywood, do they think the police in this country are like Will Smith and Martin Lawrence in Bad Boys or Mel Gibson or Danny Glover in the Lethal Weapon movies? Or what are the X-Men? Believe me, there is no Spiderman in NYC. OK? These people: Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter - are entertainers. Everything on TV in the States is entertainment. Even the news. The media, Hollywood, politics - it is all one big top circus of entertainment. Because if it doesn't entertain, there are no ratings. No ratings means no profit. No profit, no point.

If people around the world think all Americans are like the talking heads they see on TV, I feel sorry for them. I'm mean, when they see movies made in Hollywood, do they think the police in this country are like Will Smith and Martin Lawrence in Bad Boys or Mel Gibson or Danny Glover in the Lethal Weapon movies? Or what are the X-Men? Believe me, there is no Spiderman in NYC. OK? These people: Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter - are entertainers. Everything on TV in the States is entertainment. Even the news. The media, Hollywood, politics - it is all one big top circus of entertainment. Because if it doesn't entertain, there are no ratings. No ratings means no profit. No profit, no point.

You have hit upon the two chief values of American society: profit and entertainment. We Americans value little else.

You have hit upon the two chief values of American society: profit and entertainment. We Americans value little else.

Unfortunately, to some extent, that is correct. But I believe it hasn't completely taken root. I have faith in my countrymen.

i thought she was swiss but gained Canadian nationality, caus she represented switzerland in the utter naffness that is the eurovision song contest... :(
No, she's very much Canadian. Born and raised.

u know one time, 1/5 of all canadain tanks were on this civillan ship and canada wasnt paying them for transport, so the ship wouldnt give the tanks so canadain special operations assaulted the ship to get the tanks


well, that was the greatest military victory canada has ever had so i would think most of u heard about it
Dude, you need to learn history. Especially when someone just posted the contrary two posts before yours.

Go put up some quotes then.


Dude, Savage and Coulter BELIEVE the shit they say. They are political commentators.


Savage has made numerous other homophobic comments. I'm not surprised hearing that from anyone so far right as Savage. He was fired because he was a hateful jerk. But hey, that's why we got talk radio.


I like how you seamlessly tie communism to dictatorship. You obviously have never heard of Adolph Hitler.


Funny yes...kinda like a racist joke can be funny too...although it's disturbing if it's actually a racist saying it. Get my point?


Did someone as for liberal quotes?

"I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. ... He is an absolutely reprehensible person."
--USA Today Columnist Julianne Malveaux on Justice Clarence Thomas


"If there is...justice, he'll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
--National Public Radio's (NPR) Nina Totenberg on Sen. Jesse Helms


"[I]t may take the destruction of Western Civilization to allow the rest of the world to really emerge as a free and brotherly society."
--Newly elected president of that hot-bed of collectivist agitation, The World Council of Churches, Andrew Young


"In South Africa we'd call it apartheid. In Nazi Germany we'd call it Fascism. Here [in the U.S.] we call it conservatism. These people are attacking the poor."
--"Reverend" Jesse Jackson [who wears $3000 suits -- and spends hundreds of thousand of $ on his mistress as hush money for keeping quiet about the bastard he fathered -- while bemoaning the fate of the poor & preaching"Christian" morality"


"Fundamental, Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in."
--Former Democratic Congressman Peter Hoagland......does this sound familiar?? Communism anyone? Suddenly the state owns your children??


"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we think they ought to have."
--Former president of CBS News, Richard Salant


"I'll have those n****** voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
--Lyndon B. Johnson


"When you hear somebody doing it [criticizing the federal government], you ought to stand up and double up your fist and stick it in the sky and shout them down."
--Bill Clinton in a speech in Billings, Montana, 1 June '95......PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH BILLY BOY.


"We don't give a sh-- about what you have to say."
--Gloria Steinham, as she turned off the microphone when feminist Camille Paglia tried to voice a dissenting opinion


"You're fired, and your pension is forfeit."
--European Court of Justice (sic) to Bernard Connolly who wrote a book exposing European Union lies while acknowledging that what he'd written was true


"Suck my d***, you stupid n******. Shut the xxxx up, and get your black ass out of here, n*******r!"
--"Reverend" Jesse Jackson and his gang of thugs to Black conservative J. L. Peterson, when he tried to speak at an L.A. Trade Bureau Forum meeting. (Mr. Peterson is currently suing "Rev." Jackson for -- among other charges -- assault and battery, as he was also physically attacked.)


"I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."
--Self-described 'unbiased broker of events,' and CBS anchorman, Dan Rather, when asked in an interview: "Do you think Clinton is an honest man?"


"Take the initiative .. whether the issue is promiscuity or recruiting the straight. ... Ten percent is not enough! Recruit, recruit, recruit!"
--Lesbian activist, Donna Minkowitz, writing in the paper, The Advocate, urging her comrades to recruit more of America's young into the homosexual "lifestyle."


"We must cure Americans of their opposition [of homosexuality] whether they like it or not."
--"Gay" authors M. Kirk & H. Madsen in their book After the Ball ...


"We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. ... Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us."
--A vision of the future presented by the Boston Gay Community News in February 1987


"Lenin was an apostle of world peace whose ideas have had a profound influence on the course of contemporary history. ... [and] his ideals ... are in line with the U. N. charter."
--U. N. Secretary General U Thant in a speech given in 1970


"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it."
--Socialist oceanographer, the late Jacques Cousteau


I think that says enough

I see a lot of terms being thrown around, and many of them aren't being used correctly, so I'll clarify.

Capitalism: ownership of the means of production by an individual
Socialism:ownership of the means of production by the workers
Communism:ownership of the means of production by the people.
None of these have anything to do with gov't. They are strictly economic terms.

Now, as for all these quotes being thrown about, there are idiots on both sides. The thing is, though, that those who are on the right are actual representatives of their fellows' beliefs, whereas those who are supposedly on the left really aren't. For example, Lyndon B. Johnson was not a liberal. He was a war-mongering statist like those in the opposing party. And Jesse Jackson, well, yes , he's a hypocrite. But those who are truly on the left are shut out by the media, so what do you want?

Maybe there's the fact that people everywhere foster hatred. It's a human thing. We just have psychos who get on the radio blaring it everywhere.

And, specifically, the first savage quote, you have to understand where he was coming from. A gay man called in on his television show and set him up to get fired. Savage wasn't even anti-gay. He didn't deserve what he got. I would be pissed too if someone who I didn't know and had never done anything wrong to got me fired because they didn't like that I was a conservative.

What's wrong with hannity comparing liberals to dictators? Democrats compare Bush to Hitler! Besides, if any side is closer to communism, socialism, dictatorship, etc..., it's definitely the left.

How exactly did that gay man call up the show in order to get Savage fired?

Even if it is a quote out of context, how can you interpret as anything other than anti-gay?

Actually, the right, specifically Republicans, are closer to dictatorship. They are for:

*banning things that the Bible doesn't agree with (abortion, gay marriage)
*mind control (teaching creationism as science)
*theocracy (see above)
*scaring the population into voting for them
*censorship of "indecent" art and literature
*ultra-draconian anti-drug laws

The only thing that liberals have in common with any dictatorship anywhere is gun control. And many of them are dropping that anyway.

Ahem, here are the reasons I'm glad I'm not an American...

*snip*

oh hun, you may as well go down to the consulate tomorrow and get into the visa lottery if THAT Is the only reason you dont want to be an american

those guys are on the radio. they get good audience for radio but its still SMALL. you NEVER EVER need listen to them. or you can listen to liberal talk radio guys spout off in a similar manner. or "shock jocks" who are not political but like to say equally offensive things just to get people riled up.


so leave your radio whereever you are now and COME ON DOWN! we'll leave the light on for you!

Who you named are a few FAMOUS people. In no way do all americans talk like that. You call them a bunch of haters but what is your thread doing? Showing hate for americans. I rest my case.

"CANADA IS A LEFT-WING, SOCIALIST BASKET CASE. WHAT KIND OF FRIENDS ARE THEY?"
That sounds about right.

I did some research. She's not a lesbian, although the opposition has stooped to smearing her as such (it shows their mindset that calling someone a lesbian is an "attack") :rolleyes:

Just to bring this thread back to more important issues, Clark is a lesbian. Aside from plenty of circumstantial evidence, we have words from her own mouth, made on national tv, that the only reason she married a man (yes, she is married) was because same sex marriage is not an option (will be soon though) in New Zealand, and that when she began her career a gay politician would not be accepted.

The reason that opposition parties (and myself) object to her homosexuality is not that she is gay, we now have many gay mp's (and the worlds first trans-gender mp), but what her deceitful approach towards it says about her honesty. By itself of course it is not much, and perhaps understandable given the stigma often attached to homosexuality, but this is combined with her apparent total disregard to the law (accused of fraud though police did not prosecute, and more recently apparently not noticing that her car was traveling at an average speed of 120 Kph (through places where the speed limit was 50, 70 or 100) for 4 or so hours so she could get to a rugby game on time, and of course the normal total disregard of things like election promises and blatant lies about the state of the economy, health sectors etc, (oh and of course the fact that she is a member of the international communist party but has never publicly said so). And there are many other complaints in addition to this (racist legislation would be another major bone of contention).

The net result is that she is dishonest beyond even the norm of New Zealand politicians. She is pushing through legislation which is forcing great social change on the country without being open as to her personal motivation for this. When combining this dishonesty with a tyrannical style (she actually used the "royal we" when referring to her self for a while), and her manipulation of the political system to strengthen her grip on power
(eg -she just replaced the British privy council with our own supreme court, a good move, but flawed in that she appoints the judges,
-she failed to revue an electoral system that strongly favors her own party despite over 80% of NZers demanding such a revue,
-although Clark denies involvement, the $ercert Intelligence $ervice has just been busted spying on opposition parties
-she has just announced an intention to review our constitution)
I would say that Interesting Slums is also justified in suspecting that she is power hungry too,

Our next election is early next year, it could be interesting...

Canada gave us Niel Young, Wayne Gretsky, and Bobby Orr, which by themselves is enough. However, they also gave us:

Musicians

k.d lang, Rush, Sarah Mclachlan, Joni Mitchel, Barenaked Ladies, The Guess Who, BTO, Crashtest Dummies, Avril Lavigne, Gordon Lightfoot, Alanis Morrisette, Shania Twain, Bryan Adams, Paul Shaffer, Lenard Cohen, Skinny Puppy

Actors

Besides William Shatner famous Canadian entertainers include: John Candy, Mike Meyers, Jim Carey, Pamela Lee Anderson, Neve Campbell, Catherine O'Hara, Jennifer Tilly, Donald Sutherland (and son Kiefer), Brendon Frasier, Keanu Reeves, Raymond Burr, Graham Greene, Jason Priestly, Norm MacDonald, Dave Foley (and Kids in the Hall), Christopher Plummer, Tom Green (okay, they have to answer for that), Dan Akroyd, Margot Kidder, Martin Short, Phil Hartman, Michael J. Fox, James Cameron (director)

Inventions

AM radio, IMAX, electron microscope, Hockey AND Basketball, telephone (yes, Alexander Graham Bell was Canadian), cable TV, washing machine, the zipper, snowmobile, electric car, air conditioned vehicles, insulin, and the Wonderbra, plus 14 Nobel Prizes have been won by Canadian scientists

Wow, it's the Canadian version of Pavel Checkov...

Sorry to burst your bubble BUT:
-AM Radio was invented by an Italian, you may remember his name, to which the standard first had his name attached; Marconi.
-Alexander Graham Bell was Scottish
-The Inventors of the SEM (Scanning Electron Microscope) were Max Knott and Ernst Ruska, both Germans.
-The First Electric Car was invented by Robert Anderson (another Scot) And Canada doesn't make #2 either, since the next was invented by Prof. Stratingh of Holland.
-The Zipper was invented by Whitcomb Judson, from Chicago; though it was impractical till perfected by a Swedish Engineer (Gideon Sundback)

I'll stop there Mr. Checkov... You may remember the old Canadian Epoch of Cinderella... if the shoe fits, wear it....

Who you named are a few FAMOUS people. In no way do all americans talk like that. You call them a bunch of haters but what is your thread doing? Showing hate for americans. I rest my case.

Ahem, would you believe we have our own handful of pyschopaths here in Australia who represent us in the media? John Laws and Alan Jones are the two big ones.

John Laws - homophobic (had a real go at Carlton Cressley from Queer Eye just for being "flamboyant"), hate-inducing, very right of centre, shares the view with Rush Limbaugh that feminists are just ugly women. Has two incredibly spooky voodoo powers - country & western.

Alan Jones - corrupt, psychotic, homophobic, shares ideals common with most facists, in support of invading any country that looks at him funny, shares plenty of misconceptions about Muslims and Islam.

and just one more for fun -

Andrew Bolt - writes columns in Sunday Mail, ripped into John Butler just for being who he is, compared Michael Moore to Osama Bin Laden (even if you don't like the guy, it's not far to compare an over-zealous pundit and an extremist Muslim terrorist who killed 3000 Americans), supports George W and Johnny Howard to the hilt (he's probably young enough to join the army, why doesn't he?), considers intellectuals to be dangerous and is generally a very scary man.

'Fess up Khockist - Your first post was pretty much a direct quote from "Dude where's my country" by Michael Moore. Did you scan it in? ;)

'Fess up Khockist - Your first post was pretty much a direct quote from "Dude where's my country" by Michael Moore. Did you scan it in? ;)

Yeah pretty much. I know it's dangerous to admit on NS but I'm sure I'm the target of ASIO, MI7 and the CIA anyway. I think Michael Moore is great.

Ahem, here are the reasons I'm glad I'm not an American...

"OH, YOU'RE ONE OF THE SODOMITES. YOU SHOULD ONLY GET AIDS AND DIE, YOU PIG. HOW'S THAT? WHY DON'T YOU SEE IF YOU CAN SUE ME, YOU PIG. YOU GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT ME DOWN, YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE? YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO TODAY, GO EAT A SAUSAGE AND CHOKE ON IT."

- Michael Savage

"ANYTHING [liberals] CAN DO TO BRING DOWN CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM IS GOOD FOR THEM. BECAUSE THEIR MINDS ARE WARPED, BECAUSE LIBERALISM IS NOT A PHILOSOPHY, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER."

- Michael Savage

"GOD SAYS, 'EARTH IS YOURS. TAKE IT. RAPE IT. IT'S YOURS.' "

-Ann Coutler

"WE NEED TO EXECUTE PEOPLE LIKE JOHN WALKER IN ORDER TO PHYSICALLY INTIMIDATE LIBERALS, BY MAKING THEM REALIZE THAT THEY CAN BE KILLED, TOO. OTHERWISE THEY WILL TURN INTO OUTRIGHT TRAITORS!"

- Ann Coutler

"WE SHOULD INVADE THEIR COUNTRIES, KILL THEIR LEADERS AND CONVERT THEM INTO CHRISTIANITY!"

- Ann Coutler (on September 11 terrorists)

"IT IS TRUE THAT IF YOU ARE POOR AND CAN'T AFFORD A LAWYER, YOUR ODDS OF GOING TO PRISON SKYROCKET. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? TOUGH!"

- Bill O'Reilly

"FEMINISM WAS ESTABLISHED SO AS TO ALLOW UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN EASIER ACCESS TO THE MAINSTREAM OF SOCIETY!"

- Rush Limbaugh

"YOU GUYS ON THE LEFT, YOU WEREN'T THERE IN THE COLD WAR, YOU'RE NOT HERE NOW. IF WE EVER LISTEN TO YOU, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE BOWING AT THE FEET OF SOME DICTATOR SOMEPLACE ELSE!"

- Sean Hannity

"THEY'RE A BUNCH OF GUTLESS, SPINELESS COWARDS!"

- Sean Hannity (on Hollywood leftists)

"CANADA IS A LEFT-WING, SOCIALIST BASKET CASE. WHAT KIND OF FRIENDS ARE THEY?"

- Sean Hannity

And I thought John Laws and Alan Jones were bad... :eek:

Truth is tough. Ostriches bury their heads. Liberals start this thread.

Capitalism: ownership of the means of production by an individual


Really? Don't tell the thousands of people who own Microsoft stock or those who hold bonds in IBM.


Now, as for all these quotes being thrown about, there are idiots on both sides.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

Wow, it's the Canadian version of Pavel Checkov...

Sorry to burst your bubble BUT:
-AM Radio was invented by an Italian, you may remember his name, to which the standard first had his name attached; Marconi.
-Alexander Graham Bell was Scottish
-The Inventors of the SEM (Scanning Electron Microscope) were Max Knott and Ernst Ruska, both Germans.
-The First Electric Car was invented by Robert Anderson (another Scot) And Canada doesn't make #2 either, since the next was invented by Prof. Stratingh of Holland.
-The Zipper was invented by Whitcomb Judson, from Chicago; though it was impractical till perfected by a Swedish Engineer (Gideon Sundback)

I'll stop there Mr. Checkov... You may remember the old Canadian Epoch of Cinderella... if the shoe fits, wear it....

While we're at it... Which inventions have been invented by Americans(implying American citizens/scientists)? Considering that very many foreign scientists worked in the US, I'm not inclined to believe it to be extremely many.

Now, as for all these quotes being thrown about, there are idiots on both sides.

Not only on both sides but plenty in the middle as well. But what the original message of this thread misses, and what is often overlooked by both "sides" is that the vast majority of the world from ALL sides - however many there really are - is just trying to get by from one day to the next. They want the best for themselves and their family/friends.

For example, when people say 51% of America voted for Bush this isn't true. Don't know the exact percetage, but about half of poeple who could vote in this country don't for one reason or another. No need to bitch about this (unless you really want to, then go for it), it's just an example about how misguided it is use the term "sides" in these nationalistic arguements when there are so many more than just two or even three sides to most issues.

Now, this isn't to say that plenty of these same folks aren't biased, bigoted, greedy, and hateful about something or someone. A lot of the basic failings of humanity comes from a large group being convinced by a much smaller group, or single alpha individual, who convinces them they should feel a certain way about topic X and act in a certain way based on what the alpha person(s) want - even when it goes against the larger groups better interests. Call it the herd mentatlity if you choose. I do. Not sure where in our primordial past this came to be, but it seems to have been a general constant throught prehistory and recorded history.

Have a nice day :)
Hail Eris! :headbang:
(or not)

While we're at it... Which inventions have been invented by Americans(implying American citizens/scientists)? Considering that very many foreign scientists worked in the US, I'm not inclined to believe it to be extremely many.

Not my point, of course...

But...

Edwin Armstrong, New York : Invented the first broad-band Frequency Modulation circuit.

Andrew Beard, Alabama : the Jenny Coupler.

Otis Boykin, Texas : the pacemaker.

Chester Carlson, Washington : the Xerox machine.

Wallace Carothers, Iowa : nylon.

Willis Carrier, New York: The Air Conditioner.

Lee DeForest, Massachusetts : Triode and Audio Amplifiers.

Charles Goodyear, New York : Vulcanization (Rubber)

Bette Graham, Texas : Liquid Paper

Wilbur (Ohio), and Orville (Indiana) Wright : need you ask?

To name a few...

First of all, it was a nice touch to forget to mention all the hateful things liberals say. :finds a huge sign that says LAME and shoves it in your face:

Second, you have to realize something. Michael Savage and Ann coulter are entertainers. A lot of the things they say are jokes. What about comedian's racist jokes? You don't rag on them, do you? Why not? It's the same thing, isn't it?

And, specifically, the first savage quote, you have to understand where he was coming from. A gay man called in on his television show and set him up to get fired. Savage wasn't even anti-gay. He didn't deserve what he got. I would be pissed too if someone who I didn't know and had never done anything wrong to got me fired because they didn't like that I was a conservative.

What's wrong with hannity comparing liberals to dictators? Democrats compare Bush to Hitler! Besides, if any side is closer to communism, socialism, dictatorship, etc..., it's definitely the left.

I agree w/ Hannity about Hollywooders.

I somewhat agree w/ Hannity about Canada. All they've ever done is nothing.

And btw, that quote from Rush Limbaugh is funny :p

Ditto to that ;) But Canada did help us in WW2... other than that? Nothing big, although I'm sure Canadians will now spam everything Canada has done to help the US. All theses people who take the context out of what famous people say either have an agenda or don't listen to their radio shows or are just.... stupid. Then again, maybe they're all three.

Proud to be a Dittohead.

... I can only apologize for the rabid jingoistic populism that has swept through our uneducated populace and that substitutes for reasoned discourse. You see, propogandistic rhetoric notwithstanding, the true liberal must be inclusive enough to take personal responsibility for his ongoing ineffectiveness at shaming the arrogant gun-brandishing hate-mongers who masquerade as Christians (As I recall, Christianity is a religion that holds dear the values of peace, love and charity -- none of which seem to be held dear by NeoCon "Christians".)

Oh, and who has had control over the educational system for the past 70 years and still does today? Liberal Democrats. And stop trying to apologize for everyone when you have no business doing so. You sound like Richard Clarke apologizing on behalf of the US gov't at the 9/11 Commission. Phony. And before you start wailing on Christians, have you noticed that there are fanatic Muslims trying to kill even though their religion professes peace? Fanatic Islamists is to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity. Not all hate-mongerers are Bible-thumping Christians.

And frankly, one can't help but empathize with the forty-or-fifty million people here whose neural pathways weren't effectively developed in their formative years, leaving them so deathly afraid of anything that looks, smells, acts, or dresses differently from them that they feel they must shoot and kill it to re-establish their own sense of security in the world... so deathly afraid of any other opinion that they feel they must denigrate and marginalize anyone who dares to voice one... so deathly afraid of losing their putative position of social dominance that they must perpetuate ad nauseum the long American tradition begun in earnest by Millard Fillmore after his ejection from the White House and carried forward proudly by the 21st-century Republican Party, the tradition of fostering fear and hatred for anything and anyone that isn't a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Male or its surrogate.

We take these truths to be self-evident? Indeed. 'nuff said.

Conservatives are denegrating those with different points of views? How do you explain liberal cartoonists and radio show hosts calling Condolizza Rice "Aunt Jemima" and other racial slurs? Calling her a incompetent moron when she was the PResident of Stanford and has done a great job as National Security Advisor. Talk about trying to marginalize someone for their views. You just did by assuming all conservatives are hateful, bigoted, uneducated, greedy American.

Oh, and last time I checked it was the Republican party that freed the slaves and the Democrats who still have racist leaders like Senator Robert Byrd. Not to mention that Bush's cabinet is more diverse and qualified than the oh-so-honorable Clinton's. Self-evident truths? Yeah, only to those of us who use more than one side of their brain.

You have hit upon the two chief values of American society: profit and entertainment. We Americans value little else.

Maybe you don't but most of us do. Remember hearing the outrage about Janet Jackson's nipple? the fights at the NBA and football games? People do care about their children and American values are definately NOT only entertainment and profit. You're talking about capitalism (which, believe it or not, is a GOOD THING).

While we're at it... Which inventions have been invented by Americans(implying American citizens/scientists)? Considering that very many foreign scientists worked in the US, I'm not inclined to believe it to be extremely many.
You might want to remember that the US is a nation of immigrants. And an immigrant who becomes a US citizen is just as much an American as a natural born fellow like me.