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Who is against interracial marriage?

Chodolo
22-10-2004, 01:18
Who is against interracial marriage?

I am!

I think it desecrates marriage. It threatens the *sanctity*.

Besides, marriage isn't even a right, it's a privelege. The government can't force religious people to accept something that is a sin and a perversion.

They can do what they want, I don't HATE them or FEAR them for it, but I just don't want them ramming their liberal agenda down my throat.

Marriage is defined as the marriage of two people of the same race. It has always been this way. These "activist judges" are trying to change the definition, and to counteract this, we must pass constitutional amendments to defend marriage from those who wish to pervert it.

Besides, any kids that would be raised in these couplings would be abominations of nature.

America was founded on Christian principles.

QED
CSW
22-10-2004, 01:20
Who is against interracial marriage?

I am!

I think it desecrates marriage. It threatens the *sanctity*.

Besides, marriage isn't even a right, it's a privelege. The government can't force religious people to accept something that is a sin and a perversion.

They can do what they want, I don't HATE them or FEAR them for it, but I just don't want them ramming their liberal agenda down my throat.

Marriage is defined as the marriage of two people of the same race. It has always been this way. These "activist judges" are trying to change the definition, and to counteract this, we must pass constitutional amendments to defend marriage from those who wish to pervert it.

Besides, any kids that would be raised in these couplings would be abominations of nature.

America was founded on Christian principles.

QED

I'm against it, by god, and no pansy liberal can tell me otherwise!
Arturistania
22-10-2004, 01:22
Another one of these racist/sexist/intolerant/ignorant/uninformed/incorrect interrpretation of the bible/and down right stupid topics which anyone with any sense will simply ignore.

Take your outrageous uninformed and racist opinions elsewhere.
Enoxaparin
22-10-2004, 01:23
Another one of these racist/sexist/intolerant/ignorant/uninformed/incorrect interrpretation of the bible/and down right stupid topics which anyone with any sense will simply ignore.

Take your outrageous uninformed and racist opinions elsewhere.

I think you misunderstood. It's being used as a metaphor for the current issue of gay marriage, if I am correct.
New Kats Land
22-10-2004, 01:24
Who is against interracial marriage?

I am!

I think it desecrates marriage. It threatens the *sanctity*.

Besides, marriage isn't even a right, it's a privelege. The government can't force religious people to accept something that is a sin and a perversion.

They can do what they want, I don't HATE them or FEAR them for it, but I just don't want them ramming their liberal agenda down my throat.

Marriage is defined as the marriage of two people of the same race. It has always been this way. These "activist judges" are trying to change the definition, and to counteract this, we must pass constitutional amendments to defend marriage from those who wish to pervert it.

Besides, any kids that would be raised in these couplings would be abominations of nature.

America was founded on Christian principles.

QED

you have seriously got to be joking?
Chess Squares
22-10-2004, 01:24
those darns negroes thinkin they can marry our nice white women, they shouldnt be lynched for trying to talk to white womens. damned liberals trying to tell us black people are equal to white people, ill go get my ghost costume and scare them good
La Terra di Liberta
22-10-2004, 01:25
Ok, who cares who some else marries? Honestly, if two people of different races want to marry, I say fine. And who ever said it has always been "defined" as two people from the same race, I'd like to see that definition.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 01:26
I think you misunderstood. It's being used as a metaphor for the current issue of gay marriage, if I am correct.
Yes! I was mocking the gay-bashers. I should have known, given the fascist trolls who frequent this board, I probably would be taken seriously :eek:

My parents are mixed-race. Heh. 50 years ago it would have been considered a perversion. Nowadays it's perfectly acceptable.
Arturistania
22-10-2004, 01:27
Enoxaprain I think you have a point, re-reading it does illustrate a very similar argument. While I wasn't going to merit this ridiculous argument with a response I may yet get around to it tonight.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 01:28
And just so you know, I wasn't the one who voted "yes it's wrong" :p
CSW
22-10-2004, 01:32
And just so you know, I wasn't the one who voted "yes it's wrong" :p
As I said, you pansy liberals can't tell me to go against what the good LORD says.
La Terra di Liberta
22-10-2004, 01:33
As I said, you pansy liberals can't tell me to go against what the good LORD says.



Please, quote what God said in regardes to marriages only being between two people of the same race.
Superpower07
22-10-2004, 01:33
Marriage is defined as the marriage of two people of the same race. It has always been this way.
Idiot - nowhere in this definition of Marriage (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marriage) does it say "two people of the same race"

And what if two caucasian men wanted to get married? Technically, they are of the same race


Besides, any kids that would be raised in these couplings would be abominations of nature.
GO TO ----, INBREEDER! MY BEST FRIEND IS HALF-EUROPEAN HALF-ASIAN!!!!! NO WAY IS HE AN ABOMINATION ON NATURE.

Oh, and INTERbreeding expands the gene pool, allowing a species to evolve for the BETTER.


America was founded on Christian principles.

The founding fathers were Diests, they believed in God alright (not necessarily Christian, I might add), but had FREEDOM FOR ALL RELIGIONS in mind when they founded this country
Arturistania
22-10-2004, 01:34
are you saying that the bible says interracial marriage is wrong or are you saying same-sex marriage is wrong? I'm just curious so I can show the fundamental flaws in trying to legislate such stuff.
Greenmanbry
22-10-2004, 01:34
Ok, who cares who some else marries? Honestly, if two people of different races want to marry, I say fine. And who ever said it has always been "defined" as two people from the same race, I'd like to see that definition.

Exactly. Marriage is one of the things that should not be restricted based on culture/race/color/background/religion/etc.

[note] - hopefully, in 20 years, I'll come back to edit that statement and include "gender", and no one would oppose it ;)
Enoxaparin
22-10-2004, 01:35
Hmmm... seems some people don't appreciate/understand a good satirical irony.
Lunatic Goofballs
22-10-2004, 01:35
As I said, you pansy liberals can't tell me to go against what the good LORD says.

See, I didn't realized he SAID anything.

I thought most of the religious arguments were based on translations of translations of stories written hundreds or more years after the events they document. I was going under the assumption that nearly two thousand years of religious agendas had made such stories little more than myths based loosely on fact.

But if God SAID it, then that changes everything. ;)
CSW
22-10-2004, 01:36
See, I didn't realized he SAID anything.

I thought most of the religious arguments were based on translations of translations of stories written hundreds or more years after the events they document. I was going under the assumption that nearly two thousand years of religious agendas had made such stories little more than myths based loosely on fact.

But if God SAID it, then that changes everything. ;)
I hears him speak to me every day in Church, the good LORD does.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 01:36
Idiot - nowhere in this definition of Marriage (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marriage) does it say "two people of the same race"

And what if two caucasian men wanted to get married? Technically, they are of the same race


GO TO ----, INBREEDER! MY BEST FRIEND IS HALF-EUROPEAN HALF-ASIAN!!!!! NO WAY IS HE AN ABOMINATION ON NATURE.

Oh, and INTERbreeding expands the gene pool, allowing a species to evolve for the BETTER.


The founding fathers were Diests, they believed in God alright (not necessarily Christian, I might add), but had FREEDOM FOR ALL RELIGIONS in mind when they founded this country
That was profoundly refreshing! If only such passion existed across the general American voting pool. :(
La Terra di Liberta
22-10-2004, 01:37
Exactly. Marriage is one of the things that should not be restricted based on culture/race/color/background/religion/etc.

[note] - hopefully, in 20 years, I'll come back to edit that statement and include "gender", and no one would oppose it ;)




If you lived in Canada, well if you lived in Eastern Canada that is, you could say that and only get a few angry replies. But out in the wild west where I live, they'd chase ya out of town!
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 01:39
I hears him speak to me every day in Church, the good LORD does.
Well I hear the Good lord God sometimes he talks to me and I hear him then sometimes he says i have to like kill muslims and liberals cause its like his will that we all worship only him and stop the immoral people from taking over the world. :(
Arturistania
22-10-2004, 01:40
Being originally from Alberta I know exactly what you mean. Alberta is the Alabama of Canada, its really quite scary actually. However, on many issues, Alberta is consistently the most conservative part of Canada yet is more liberal than New England which is the liberal part of the US, go figure. I am so glad I got out of that province, its hard being a social-democrat and a bleeding heart liberal there :P
Incongruency
22-10-2004, 01:40
Yes! I was mocking the gay-bashers. I should have known, given the fascist trolls who frequent this board, I probably would be taken seriously :eek:

My parents are mixed-race. Heh. 50 years ago it would have been considered a perversion. Nowadays it's perfectly acceptable.

And, interestingly enough, some of the same arguments being used today against same-sex marriage were used against "miscegenation" once upon a time. Bigotry, it seems, doesn't ever go away; it merely finds new avenues of expression. :(
CSW
22-10-2004, 01:42
Well I hear the Good lord God sometimes he talks to me and I hear him then sometimes he says i have to like kill muslims and liberals cause its like his will that we all worship only him and stop the immoral people from taking over the world. :(
And you're sitting here, not going out and following the WORD of the LORD?

Heathen. Repent or you shall burn sinner. But have faith, JESUS and the LORD have forgiveness for all who ask for it.
La Terra di Liberta
22-10-2004, 01:42
Being originally from Alberta I know exactly what you mean. Alberta is the Alabama of Canada, its really quite scary actually. However, on many issues, Alberta is consistently the most conservative part of Canada yet is more liberal than New England which is the liberal part of the US, go figure. I am so glad I got out of that province, its hard being a social-democrat and a bleeding heart liberal there :P

I'm from Calgary and I actually am a Conservative, although I'd be on the moderate side of the party.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 01:44
And, interestingly enough, some of the same arguments being used today against same-sex marriage were used against "miscegenation" once upon a time. Bigotry, it seems, doesn't ever go away; it merely finds new avenues of expression. :(
Aint that the truth? Although, it does seem like in general, liberal ideas are slowly winning...i.e. conservatives gradually accept the liberal ideas, and then oppose the new liberal ideas.

A long time ago, it was the liberals of the time who wanted to free the slaves, and the conservatives who wished to keep them. But those "liberals" were still mostly very much against letting black people vote, or women vote, etc. Time goes on...black people are fighting segregation, many white people join them in protest, those "liberals", many of them, are the ones protesting gay marriage today...

Slowly but surely, the conservatives get old and die, and new liberals replace them. These things just seem to take time.
Preebles
22-10-2004, 01:47
I can speak from experience and say that interracial marriages aren't accepted fully. (ok so we're not married yet, but we will be soon!) We still get dirty looks and stuff. A lot of the time that's from Indian people- since I'm Indian. We just go out of our way to make out and piss them off more. :p

Coming from that, I can only imagine what a gay/lesbian couple goes through. It's like my experience but 100 times worse. People really need to put this in perspective. Even if you disapprove of homosexuality- IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS!!! And we cannot judge marriage by solely Christian principles. I mean... people of other religions get married... Atheists get married...
*rant rant rant*
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 01:50
And you're sitting here, not going out and following the WORD of the LORD?

Heathen. Repent or you shall burn sinner. But have faith, JESUS and the LORD have forgiveness for all who ask for it.
Cause sometimes i listen to God when he's talking to me when i praying other times i try to read the bible but its hard to understand and i only read the parts i like and sometimes the pope tells us stuff to do and believe, i dont know what to do! :(
Arturistania
22-10-2004, 01:54
I fail to see the link between following God's will and legislating against same-sex and interracial marriage. Believe whatever you want, but you can't but those beliefs into legislation. Marriage means one thing in the bible, it means something completely different in civil law. The bible has a religious definition, meaning, and significance. Under civil law, marriage means in some countries the union of 2 people to the exclusion of all others and in others the union of one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others. Regardless, under civil law, marriage means you are entitled to certain benefits and are subject to certain taxes under civil law and the tax code.

Ultimately so people like you CSW can't seem to understand the seperation of church and state or the fact that the rights of people can not be overruled by religious doctrine. I respect your religion, I myself am a religious person, but you can't legislate what you claim God tells you on everyone. You can believe that same-sex marriage is wrong, but do you have the right to legislate that belief upon everyone, especially those who are homosexuals, or aetheist, or not Christian, or Christian who support homosexual rights? In a liberal democracy (which western nations are), you can't bring in legislation based upon the bible because many do not support those views and your are forcing your beliefs into law which will affect everyone. Contrarily, if the law gave rights to all people, then everyone is free to believe as they want and act as they want, you can follow what you see as God's will and a same-sex couple can get married under civil law. This strikes me as a rather fair system. Keep in mind, there are only a minority of Christians who do support same-sex marriage, abortion, etc. So your legislation ideas would reflect a small minority. There are many Christians (or at least Catholics like myself)who support abortion rights, same-sex marriages under civil law, birth control, etc. The church has no business in the affairs of the state (to use modify a famous quote by Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau when he removed the laws that made homosexuality illegal: "The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation" <== isnt that the truth).
CSW
22-10-2004, 01:56
Cause sometimes i listen to God when he's talking to me when i praying other times i try to read the bible but its hard to understand and i only read the parts i like and sometimes the pope tells us stuff to do and believe, i dont know what to do! :(
That's your problem. The pope is actually the anti-christ. Don't listen to him.
Moonshine
22-10-2004, 01:58
Who is against interracial marriage?

I am!

I think it desecrates marriage. It threatens the *sanctity*.

Besides, marriage isn't even a right, it's a privelege. The government can't force religious people to accept something that is a sin and a perversion.

They can do what they want, I don't HATE them or FEAR them for it, but I just don't want them ramming their liberal agenda down my throat.

Marriage is defined as the marriage of two people of the same race. It has always been this way. These "activist judges" are trying to change the definition, and to counteract this, we must pass constitutional amendments to defend marriage from those who wish to pervert it.

Besides, any kids that would be raised in these couplings would be abominations of nature.

America was founded on Christian principles.

QED

Nice troll.
Druthulhu
22-10-2004, 01:58
Who is against interracial marriage?

I am!

I think it desecrates marriage. It threatens the *sanctity*.

Besides, marriage isn't even a right, it's a privelege. The government can't force religious people to accept something that is a sin and a perversion.

They can do what they want, I don't HATE them or FEAR them for it, but I just don't want them ramming their liberal agenda down my throat.

Marriage is defined as the marriage of two people of the same race. It has always been this way. These "activist judges" are trying to change the definition, and to counteract this, we must pass constitutional amendments to defend marriage from those who wish to pervert it.

Besides, any kids that would be raised in these couplings would be abominations of nature.

America was founded on Christian principles.

QED

Excuse me... has somebody been trying to force you into being interracially married?
Arturistania
22-10-2004, 01:59
That's your problem. The pope is actually the anti-christ. Don't listen to him.

You must be kidding me. I cant believe you just said something that ignorant and stupid. Actually I can believe it based upon your previous comments but this managed to bring my opinion of you to a new low I didnt know existed.
CSW
22-10-2004, 02:15
You must be kidding me. I cant believe you just said something that ignorant and stupid. Actually I can believe it based upon your previous comments but this managed to bring my opinion of you to a new low I didnt know existed.


Oh dear.


For those of you who can't see it:

</sarcasm>
Druthulhu
22-10-2004, 02:15
I hears him speak to me every day in Church, the good LORD does.

God has said nothing in scriptures forbidding interracial marriage. God does forbid Jews from marrying Pagans, so perhaps that is where you are so confused. Repent.
Dettibok
22-10-2004, 02:28
The government can't force religious people to accept something that is a sin and a perversion.I smell sarcasm but I'm going to take this seriously. In the United States at least, churches were never forced by the government to marry interracial couples. And I believe there were some that didn't up until the late '80s. Now some citizens are required to recognize government-recognized marriages (some civil servants for instance), but as far as I know most citizens are not.
Cartaka
22-10-2004, 02:28
And you're sitting here, not going out and following the WORD of the LORD?

Heathen. Repent or you shall burn sinner. But have faith, JESUS and the LORD have forgiveness for all who ask for it.

2 things, firstly, if you told a physiciatrist you heard the voice of god in your head every time you went to church he would suggest therapy,
Secondly, If 'God' told me to go kill people of other religions and generally be a religious facist, I would RATHER burn in hell then do those acts. I'm sure any belevolant god would understand this if you told him that.
CSW
22-10-2004, 02:30
Oh dear.


For those of you who can't see it:

</sarcasm>

...
Naomisan24
22-10-2004, 02:52
Who is against interracial marriage?

I am!

I think it desecrates marriage. It threatens the *sanctity*.

Besides, marriage isn't even a right, it's a privelege. The government can't force religious people to accept something that is a sin and a perversion.

They can do what they want, I don't HATE them or FEAR them for it, but I just don't want them ramming their liberal agenda down my throat.

Marriage is defined as the marriage of two people of the same race. It has always been this way. These "activist judges" are trying to change the definition, and to counteract this, we must pass constitutional amendments to defend marriage from those who wish to pervert it.

Besides, any kids that would be raised in these couplings would be abominations of nature.

America was founded on Christian principles.

QED

If you don't want them forcing you to follow their principles, why are you saying they should be forced to follow yours? You are, essentially, saying two people who love each other are unnatural. This is not even a same-sex thing! How are two consenting adults abominations of nature? And you are a total racist, by the way, if you think halfnhalfs, including myself, 5/8ths mideastern, are "abominations."
Goed
22-10-2004, 02:57
DAMN RIGHT!

I am against inneracial marriges, but it's hard for me :(

The good Lord, he tempts me mighty awful with them asian women :(. I nkow I should just find a nice, 100% white woman to have non-pleasurable sex with after marrige and never use contraceptives, but it's so very hard :(


Please, Lord, give me strength! Help me fight the temptation!
The Holy Palatinate
22-10-2004, 03:06
3) Duh, marrying someone of the same 'race' is incestuous, the scum who do that should be stoned.

It's amazing how willing people are willing to inbreed themselves. Really, what is the attraction in your kids have 13 toes?

It's also amazing that people who claim to take the Bible literally won't consider the following:
If we're all descended from Adam and Eve (or for that matter, Noah's kids), we're the same race, no matter what colour we are.

And don't forget - calling Caucasians "White" is insulting to Albinos! How about, "Pink", or "Mottled"?
The Holy Palatinate
22-10-2004, 03:14
Please, Lord, give me strength! Help me fight the temptation!

Dear Lord, please guide this fellow into reading "The Song of Solomon", as he'll be so much happier when he realises that the lass in the love story is a Negress.

"I am Black, but comely, ..."

Wonderful book. Every couple should read it. It would never have occurred to me to drink wine out of my girl's belly button, quite brilliant!
Goed
22-10-2004, 03:26
Dear Lord, please guide this fellow into reading "The Song of Solomon", as he'll be so much happier when he realises that the lass in the love story is a Negress.

"I am Black, but comely, ..."

Wonderful book. Every couple should read it. It would never have occurred to me to drink wine out of my girl's belly button, quite brilliant!

Hey, psst, just a hint. This whole thread? It's a JOKE
Pessimus
22-10-2004, 03:31
why? why is interracial marrige wrong. FYI colored people are not of a differant race! They are a differant color. This is because of the amount of melatonin in your skin. This is the chemical that makes some people have freckles and such. Same reason you would get a tan. So please...explain your case.... (by the way...i am white)
CSW
22-10-2004, 03:34
Hey, psst, just a hint. This whole thread? It's a JOKE

.
New Granada
22-10-2004, 03:39
Who is against interracial marriage?

Barbara Bush, George HW Bush, George W Bush. They gave Jeb quite a bit of shit when he married a colored woman.
La Terra di Liberta
22-10-2004, 03:39
.



Thats quite a response you got there. I think its the truth though.
Sinclair_Darkfall
22-10-2004, 06:44
Excuse me... has somebody been trying to force you into being interracially married?

Yes.

Well sort of. My boyfriend and his best friend have taken to mentioning the "M" word around me lately. Damn it, I may date and sleep with that beautiful dark skinned man, but I'm sure as hell not going to MARRY him.


(uhm, at least not for a very long time because I am really not ready to make a life long commitment yet).
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 06:51
I'm still wondering who voted that interracial marriage is wrong.

I know one was a joke, but the other three...?
BLARGistania
22-10-2004, 07:33
hooray for satire!

The NY Times ran a cartoon a while back. The first frame was a white guy holding a sign that said No Interracial marraige and saying "All I'm doin' is protectin' the sanctity of marraige". The second frame was a black guy with a sign saying No gay marriage and saying "What he said"
The Jovian Worlds
22-10-2004, 08:20
I'm just amused that everyone responded so seriously and earnestly to everyone's obvious satire...

All the comments were way to well written to have been authentic. :)
Hakartopia
22-10-2004, 08:37
I'm just amused that everyone responded so seriously and earnestly to everyone's obvious satire...

All the comments were way to well written to have been authentic. :)

I'm mainly amused by the fact that people *kept doing it* troughout all four pages. *Despite* numerous hints and blatant statements that the thread is satire/sarcasm/a joke/not to be taken serious/etc.
New Fuglies
22-10-2004, 08:46
Who is against interracial marriage?

I am!



Me too! Being a blue eyed caucasian I fear the loss of genetic diveristy in humans should my lovely recessive blue eye gene be recombined against the evil influence of the dominant brown eye gene. In a matter of generations nearly all humans will have brown eyes...oh the horror! My kind could become *gasp* extinct! :(
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 08:57
50 years ago it would have been considered a perversion. Nowadays it's perfectly acceptable.
no. its still a perversion. or to be more exact, the children of this relationship are.
Preebles
22-10-2004, 09:03
The bad thing about this is, I can't tell if you're joking...
Xiang Gang
22-10-2004, 09:07
This is ridiculous - marriage is about the joining of two people who ideally love one another, not about pleasing the rest of society.
New Fuglies
22-10-2004, 09:11
no. its still a perversion. or to be more exact, the children of this relationship are.

Uhh let's see.. then that means Indians, people of Mediterranean and Eastern European descent, etc. etc. are perverts... or perversions. :rolleyes:
Preebles
22-10-2004, 09:14
And my as yet unborn babies. :(
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 09:14
Uhh let's see.. then that means Indians, people of Mediterranean and Eastern European descent, etc. etc. are perverts... or perversions. :rolleyes:
why?
HyperionCentauri
22-10-2004, 09:15
Who is against interracial marriage?

I am!

I think it desecrates marriage. It threatens the *sanctity*.

Besides, marriage isn't even a right, it's a privelege. The government can't force religious people to accept something that is a sin and a perversion.

They can do what they want, I don't HATE them or FEAR them for it, but I just don't want them ramming their liberal agenda down my throat.

Marriage is defined as the marriage of two people of the same race. It has always been this way. These "activist judges" are trying to change the definition, and to counteract this, we must pass constitutional amendments to defend marriage from those who wish to pervert it.

Besides, any kids that would be raised in these couplings would be abominations of nature.

America was founded on Christian principles.

QED


SO WHEN does your ethnic clensing plan come to a vote next then?
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 09:18
SO WHEN does your ethnic clensing plan come to a vote next then?
April 1st. ;)
Legless Pirates
22-10-2004, 09:19
One shouldn't marry animals
Preebles
22-10-2004, 09:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by New Fuglies
Uhh let's see.. then that means Indians, people of Mediterranean and Eastern European descent, etc. etc. are perverts... or perversions.

why?

Well I can speak for Indians, being Indian myself. There are two basic population groups in India (I generalise horribly here), in the North (descendents of people from Central Asia- the original Aryans- waits for some Nazi propaganda...) and people from the South, the original Indians. Of course there are many other influences, such as Turks, Persians etc. While most Indians would class themselves as belonging to some group, it is far more likely that they have a mixed background. I'm mainly North Indian with some South Indian background. By your logic I am an abomination... woo hoo, go me! :p
Preebles
22-10-2004, 09:21
One shouldn't marry animals

Hurray, someone pointed out the idiocy of race theory! HUMAN race anybody?
HyperionCentauri
22-10-2004, 09:24
April 1st. ;)
ha- i hope you're not seriouse..
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 09:26
ha- i hope you're not seriouse..
Sorry, the whole thread is a joke. I was using this thread to mock the bullshit arguments I'm tired of refuting in the gay marriage threads. :)

(though I am disturbed by a couple people who actually ARE against interracial marriage! United White Front must be keeping quiet...)
HyperionCentauri
22-10-2004, 09:34
Sorry, the whole thread is a joke. I was using this thread to mock the bullshit arguments I'm tired of refuting in the gay marriage threads. :)

(though I am disturbed by a couple people who actually ARE against interracial marriage! United White Front must be keeping quiet...)

lol :D

i am also so horribly sick of those damn homosexual threads aswell.. :sniper:
Legless Pirates
22-10-2004, 09:36
i am also so horribly sick of those damn homosexuals aswell.. :sniper:
Whoa dude. Lighten up.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 09:37
Well I can speak for Indians, being Indian myself. There are two basic population groups in India (I generalise horribly here), in the North (descendents of people from Central Asia- the original Aryans- waits for some Nazi propaganda...) and people from the South, the original Indians. Of course there are many other influences, such as Turks, Persians etc. While most Indians would class themselves as belonging to some group, it is far more likely that they have a mixed background. I'm mainly North Indian with some South Indian background. By your logic I am an abomination... woo hoo, go me! :p
this is a little extrem. i wouldnt say its a perversion to make children with someone from the south. or a brit and an italian. theyre not *that* different arent they?
its not like the difference from Central Europe to Central Afrika for example. and that are the real perversions im speaking about. or this gray *something* america is becoming... frightening!
Torching Witches
22-10-2004, 09:40
I'm mainly amused by the fact that people *kept doing it* troughout all four pages. *Despite* numerous hints and blatant statements that the thread is satire/sarcasm/a joke/not to be taken serious/etc.

And it goes on...

But lots of people will read the first post and then feel the need to respond to it immediately, before reading the rest.

Personally, I'd never marry a ginger. It's just plain wrong.
Legless Pirates
22-10-2004, 09:41
And it goes on...

But lots of people will read the first post and then feel the need to respond to it immediately, before reading the rest.

Personally, I'd never marry a ginger. It's just plain wrong.
I once dated a ginger... Didn't work
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 09:42
a ginger
whats that? :confused:
Torching Witches
22-10-2004, 09:45
whats that? :confused:

It's a type of spice. Good for tea or stir fry. Try it. You might like it.
Torching Witches
22-10-2004, 09:46
It's a type of spice. Good for tea or stir fry. Try it. You might like it.

Sorry. Very naughty of me. It's a person with ginger (ie orange) hair.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 09:49
ok.
orange hair :eek: only punks wear that :rolleyes: and theyre on the brink of extinction.
Torching Witches
22-10-2004, 09:50
Sorry. Very naughty of me. It's a person with ginger (ie orange) hair.

Ahem.
Arkhoma
22-10-2004, 10:52
And it goes on...

But lots of people will read the first post and then feel the need to respond to it immediately, before reading the rest.

Personally, I'd never marry a ginger. It's just plain wrong.




You're right, but I would think that those that don't immediately notice the correlation with the gay marriage thread (as I did), and those that don't notice the sarcasm in the first few posts (I know that understanding sarcasm in print can be difficult) still should have gotten the hint with the (yes, this is a joke thread) right at the top of the first post!
Torching Witches
22-10-2004, 10:56
You're right, but I would think that those that don't immediately notice the correlation with the gay marriage thread (as I did), and those that don't notice the sarcasm in the first few posts (I know that understanding sarcasm in print can be difficult) still should have gotten the hint with the (yes, this is a joke thread) right at the top of the first post!

Nah, I missed that too. I'd already read the title on the main forum, so I didn't look at it again.
Independent Homesteads
22-10-2004, 11:09
Hmmm... seems some people don't appreciate/understand a good satirical irony.

I think there are enough morons in the world without reasonable people pretending to be morons just to start a fight. Satire only works if it's a) funny and b) satirical.

The thread originator didn't say anything at all funny or to indicate satire until about the 7th post. no wonder people think s/he's serious, there are lots of persons about who think like this.
Independent Homesteads
22-10-2004, 11:13
Personally, I'd never marry a ginger. It's just plain wrong.


Gings are the last persecutable minority*. Where's my moral support? Where's my affirmative action? People are always picking on gings and it isn't fair. As I always say, "is it because I is ginger?".

To confuse things further, particularly in the context of this thread, ginger is cockney for gay (from ginger beer = queer).


* except fat people. it's fair enough to have a go at fat people because they're greedy buggers who wouldn't be so fat if they didn't eat so many pies
Preebles
22-10-2004, 11:14
no. its still a perversion. or to be more exact, the children of this relationship are.

Oh wow, I'm so honoured, you don't consider me a perversion! :rolleyes:

But my children will still be perversions in your eyes, since my partner is Anglo?

I'm lucky I don't live my life based on the views of reactionary fools like you. :headbang:
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 11:26
I think there are enough morons in the world without reasonable people pretending to be morons just to start a fight. Satire only works if it's a) funny and b) satirical.

The thread originator didn't say anything at all funny or to indicate satire until about the 7th post. no wonder people think s/he's serious, there are lots of persons about who think like this.
Yes, I realized my error fairly quickly.

Oh well, I just wanted to point out the flaws in the anti-gay marriage argument. Got sidetracked I suppose.
Clan of Isis
22-10-2004, 11:28
We welcome interracial unions. :fluffle:
Preebles
22-10-2004, 11:31
But those smileys look exactly the same...

They must be gay!! :p

We welcome homosexual unions too!
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 11:37
But my children will still be perversions in your eyes, since my partner is Anglo? yes

I'm lucky I don't live my life based on the views of reactionary fools like you. :headbang:
well, its nice be to called a fool from a person who lacks the responsiblity to give their children a good life. theyll be bullied by other kind from the start, and everyone will raise an eyebrow behind their backs. its sad that there are people who want to punish their kids like that. :(
Preebles
22-10-2004, 11:42
Maybe if people like YOU didn't think interracial people are abominations kids wouldn't have to face stuff like that? :rolleyes:

This is sickening me. There are some seriously screwed up people out there.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 12:07
well, its nice be to called a fool from a person who lacks the responsiblity to give their children a good life. theyll be bullied by other kind from the start, and everyone will raise an eyebrow behind their backs. its sad that there are people who want to punish their kids like that. :(
Ok, I've held off responding to your posts because I wasn't sure if you were joking or not. By now, I'm gonna assume you're serious.

First off, you are the bigot. Not "everyone". Let me tell you something. I grew up in Hawaii. A full 20% of the population is mixed race, I shit you not. Not counting those people, no one race has over 50% of the general population. I went to a school where EVERYONE was multiracial (why, is another reason, for another thread).

And let me tell you something: NO ONE GAVE A FUCK.

It's hard to "raise an eyebrow" at an interracial couple when you yourself are multiracial.

Time's are changing across the country. More than 4% of the country is now multiracial, and the number is growing. The pure white majority will become a minority by 2050. Hawaii is just ahead of the game. As time goes on, the term "interracial marriage" will become meaningless as everyone just stops seeing race and starts seeing people.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 13:08
This is sickening me. There are some seriously screwed up people out there.
indeed. :(

-snip-
america is seriously screwed. thanks for pointing that out. good that i dont live there.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 13:11
america is seriously screwed. thanks for pointing that out. good that i dont live there.
Where do you live? If it's Europe or Canada, you're even more *screwed* than us...with gay marriage allowed, pot legalized, universal healthcare, etc. ;)
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 13:15
yes


well, its nice be to called a fool from a person who lacks the responsiblity to give their children a good life. theyll be bullied by other kind from the start, and everyone will raise an eyebrow behind their backs. its sad that there are people who want to punish their kids like that. :(
Those kids get punished by people like you, not by their parents. But hey, you're right. This planet is so full if idiots that it's better not to have kids at all. Then they won't be bullied..
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 13:24
Where do you live? If it's Europe or Canada, you're even more *screwed* than us...with gay marriage allowed, pot legalized, universal healthcare, etc. ;)
gay marriage - *raises eyebrow* do they have to do this in public? :eek:
pot legilized - why not. if someone wants to, let them.
universal healthcare - oh, thats a nice thing to have, believe me... :)
Those kids get punished by people like you, not by their parents. But hey, you're right. This planet is so full if idiots that it's better not to have kids at all. Then they won't be bullied..
wow now its ME who is the evil guy?!? come on, get real.
Aquarius euetheia
22-10-2004, 13:25
Marriage is no privelege, it's a natural right! Whether tradition approves it or not, whether society approves it or not, whether religion approves it or not! Marriage is essentially about two mature people who genuinely love each other and understand fully the meaning and implications of their being together. It is about two people who commune in love and are willing to live the rest of their lives together as a whole, no longer two separate individual entities. You don't need a court, or a priest nor a bunch of documents to obtain one of the best chances out there to live a fuller, better life of love and spiritual growth. There is no other requirement, other than the aforementioned. Therefore, I believe, there is absolutely nothing to complain about interracial marriages.
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 13:28
wow now its ME who is the evil guy?!? come on, get real.
well...by people "who raise their eyebrowns behind their back" etc.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 13:29
gay marriage - *raises eyebrow* do they have to do this in public? :eek:
pot legilized - why not. if someone wants to, let them.
universal healthcare - oh, thats a nice thing to have, believe me... :)
I guessed correctly on gay marriage. But guessed wrong on pot and socialism. Oh well.
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 13:30
wow now its ME who is the evil guy?!? come on, get real.
Or maybe they should move to Hawaii to give birth?
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 13:32
I guessed correctly on gay marriage. But guessed wrong on pot and socialism. Oh well.
yeah there are lots of stereotypes :D
Fizzilvania
22-10-2004, 13:33
Marriage is no privelege, it's a natural right! Whether tradition approves it or not, whether society approves it or not, whether religion approves it or not! Marriage is essentially about two mature people who genuinely love each other and understand fully the meaning and implications of their being together. It is about two people who commune in love and are willing to live the rest of their lives together as a whole, no longer two separate individual entities. You don't need a court, or a priest nor a bunch of documents to obtain one of the best chances out there to live a fuller, better life of love and spiritual growth. There is no other requirement, other than the aforementioned. Therefore, I believe, there is absolutely nothing to complain about interracial marriages.

I somwehat agree with your argument. I agree that it really does not matter what color your skin is, what country you grew up in, or who your parents are, to marry someone.

To some of the white supremecists: I would be "mixed" by your term. my father is ethnically Jewish and my mother is French. But *shockingly* my sister and I turned out just fine.

The argument that"punishing your kids" by marrying soemone who has a different family than you is comepletely absurd! It's people like you who "punish" us! You punish us by "rasing eyebrows" behind back or sneering in our faces. It's hurtful and against the Bible, in which I strongly believe.
However, don't even get me started on homosexual marriage.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 13:38
Or maybe they should move to Hawaii to give birth?
its warm there, sunny, lots of beaches, sand... a good place for a relaxing vacation :D
but do all people there wear hawaii shirts? theyre out of style damnit.
Bottle
22-10-2004, 13:43
well, its nice be to called a fool from a person who lacks the responsiblity to give their children a good life. theyll be bullied by other kind from the start, and everyone will raise an eyebrow behind their backs. its sad that there are people who want to punish their kids like that. :(
were i to have children (with my partner who is of roughly the same ethnicity as i), they would be short in stature. i was teased growing up for being short, though i managed to turn it around and use it as my "hook" for starting up conversations with new friends. so are you saying that i shouldn't have children because they will probably be teased for being short? or should i, perhaps, have children if i wish to, and teach those children martial arts from a young age so that they can pummel the crap out of any self-important twit who thinks they have some kind of God-given right to bully other kids?
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 13:43
its warm there, sunny, lots of beaches, sand... a good place for a relaxing vacation :D
but do all people there wear hawaii shirts? theyre out of style damnit.
Just the tourists mostly.

yeah there are lots of stereotypes
one of them being that most people raise their eyebrows when they see a mixed race person. I think people have come to be more tolerant in the past 50 years than you'll give them credit for.
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 13:43
its warm there, sunny, lots of beaches, sand... a good place for a relaxing vacation :D
but do all people there wear hawaii shirts? theyre out of style damnit.
So are Die Lederhosen, my dear..

Anyway if I ever get married, I'll just register my relationship. Don't really understansd why everybody so eagerly want to get married in church etc when most of people (at least here in Finland) are not so religious anyway. Actually I couldn't even if I wanted to. At least I should join church first.
Preebles
22-10-2004, 13:59
yay for non-church marriages! For me it's about love, not religion. And besides, I'm agnostic and the man is atheist.

Maybe we should move to Hawaii? :D
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 14:05
yay for non-church marriages! For me it's about love, not religion. And besides, I'm agnostic and the man is atheist.

Maybe we should move to Hawaii? :D
Let's all move to Hawaii! It's bloody freezing up here, I want sun! sand! plus degrees!
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 14:11
I think people have come to be more tolerant in the past 50 years than you'll give them credit for.
maybe in america, but i doubt it.
optimism is wasted time when it comes to humankind. political correctness was invented in the past 50 years, but that doesnt change anything about the way people think.

So are Die Lederhosen, my dear..
ha so you do know

Anyway if I ever get married, I'll just register my relationship. Don't really understansd why everybody so eagerly want to get married in church etc when most of people (at least here in Finland) are not so religious anyway. Actually I couldn't even if I wanted to. At least I should join church first.
lol your not so lazy as i am. im still a member of the church, even if i didnt set foot in a church in 13 years. :D
and thats exactly my opinion about marriage. you dont have to marry to be together. so why do the gays fight so hard to marry? the only possible reason is they want to rub it into everyones face what they do at home, and seriously i dont wanna know this...
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 14:16
lol your not so lazy as i am. im still a member of the church, even if i didnt set foot in a church in 13 years. :D
and thats exactly my opinion about marriage. you dont have to marry to be together. so why do the gays fight so hard to marry? the only possible reason is they want to rub it into everyones face what they do at home, and seriously i dont wanna know this...
I don't know if you have to pay taxes to church or not. Here, if you're member of the church you have to...that's a good reason enough to get one's lazy ass down to townhall and resign. Well actually I didn't have to resign as I've never been a member. None of my family are, we are just pure evil....:D
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 14:17
or should i, perhaps, have children if i wish to, and teach those children martial arts from a young age so that they can pummel the crap out of any self-important twit who thinks they have some kind of God-given right to bully other kids?
yes thats a very good idea. the japanese start with 4 or 6 years with Karate i think. if your children will probably be quite small (and even if they dont) its a good idea to give them the chance to beat out the crap out of the first kid who wants to bully them. small children rank high on the -to-bully-list this isnt a secret...
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 14:24
I don't know if you have to pay taxes to church or not. Here, if you're member of the church you have to...that's a good reason enough to get one's lazy ass down to townhall and resign. your right AND wrong. both. you have to pay church taxes, but if your no member of the church you still have to pay the same amouth of taxes to the state. only the name changes (dunno how its called then) nothing else. so there is no real advantage to leave.
Well actually I didn't have to resign as I've never been a member. None of my family are, we are just pure evil....:D
oh you can be a member of the church and still be evil. ask preebles about me. I AM EVIL! :D
do you know the ad&d alignment test? i always get N-E

Let's all move to Hawaii! It's bloody freezing up here, I want sun! sand! plus degrees!
maybe you can make yourself warm thoughts ;)
Ansgard
22-10-2004, 14:25
Interracial marriage is totally wrong. Have you seen what happened to the kids with black and white parents? THEY GET FORCED TO SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUS, DAMNIT.
Bottle
22-10-2004, 14:26
yes thats a very good idea. the japanese start with 4 or 6 years with Karate i think. if your children will probably be quite small (and even if they dont) its a good idea to give them the chance to beat out the crap out of the first kid who wants to bully them. small children rank high on the -to-bully-list this isnt a secret...
so why can't interracial children be given the same start? why is it okay for me to have kids who will be targetted by bullies, but interracial couples should refrain from having kids for that same reason?
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 14:28
your right AND wrong. both. you have to pay church taxes, but if your no member of the church you still have to pay the same amouth of taxes to the state. only the name changes (dunno how its called then) nothing else. so there is no real advantage to leave.

oh you can be a member of the church and still be evil. ask preebles about me. I AM EVIL! :D
do you know the ad&d alignment test? i always get N-E
Here it's pure savings...no name changes or anything. But I still have a problem with churches...I live next to one. It's pure hell (heh) on Sunday mornings.

Oh no you admit you're evil, huh? You tried to convince me otherwise just minutes ago...oh the evilness :(
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 14:29
maybe in america, but i doubt it.
optimism is wasted time when it comes to humankind. political correctness was invented in the past 50 years, but that doesnt change anything about the way people think.
What's with political correctness? Interracial marriage has nothing to do with PC and everything to do with tolerance. And trust me, you are in a very small minority of people who still have a problem with a black person and a white person holding hands. Bigots get old and die. Young tolerant people replace them. Hell, Jennifer Lopez has dated white, black, and Latino men over the past several years and no one even blinks an eye. It's just not a big deal to anyone except for you and our friendly Ku Klux Klan down in the good ole south.

and thats exactly my opinion about marriage. you dont have to marry to be together. so why do the gays fight so hard to marry? the only possible reason is they want to rub it into everyones face what they do at home, and seriously i dont wanna know this...
The problem is, the government is explicitly involved in marriage. They offer tax breaks, benefits, etc. Plus, a great many gay people are religious and want to express their love through a marriage and all that good stuff. I don't think it's about rubbing it in anyone's face anymore than the first black people to attend white segregated schools were doing it to "rub it in their face", or the first women to vote were doing it to "rub it in men's faces". It's all about equality.
Preebles
22-10-2004, 14:30
ask preebles about me. I AM EVIL!
I don't think you're evil. In my book evil requires some intelligence.

You're just deluded.

And I'll look into obscure martial arts to get my kids into. :D
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 14:31
so why can't interracial children be given the same start? why is it okay for me to have kids who will be targetted by bullies, but interracial couples should refrain from having kids for that same reason?
Ommmm....I foresee that interracial kids are going to rule the world due their unbeatable kung fu skills...

(don't take this seriously, please)
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 14:34
so why can't interracial children be given the same start? why is it okay for me to have kids who will be targetted by bullies, but interracial couples should refrain from having kids for that same reason?
beaten.
nice way to discuss lady.
so you might call it personal preference. :p
Torching Witches
22-10-2004, 14:34
Of course America was previously owned by the Native Americans until the new arrivals took it upon themselves to kill them all and ship in some black slaves.
Marriage is a part of many religions, not just christianity and also has legal implications that a lot of couples care about more than the religious side. Furthermore marriage is not defined as being between two people of the same race.
Why would the kids be an abomination of nature exactly? Not like the white trash that would sooner marry their own cousins of course, they're a fine specimen.
The real problem is christians, who take it upon themselves to convert other religions and then tell them they don't want them.
I'd rather people were marrying different races than fascists like yourself, though i'm sure you're sick of hearing that.

For pity's sake, read the thread before replying to the first post!!!
Bottle
22-10-2004, 14:34
Ommmm....I foresee that interracial kids are going to rule the world due their unbeatable kung fu skills...

(don't take this seriously, please)
hehe. that would be pretty cool.

i have to say, i would teach my kids martial arts no matter what they were like...i believe bullies deserve to have their asses knocked in the dirt, and i would be proud to have any child of mine administer the ass-knockage.
Styvonia
22-10-2004, 14:35
For pity's sake, read the thread before replying to the first post!!!

you need to watch your blood pressure
Torching Witches
22-10-2004, 14:35
you need to watch your blood pressure

you need to read the thread.
Bottle
22-10-2004, 14:36
beaten.
nice way to discuss lady.
so you might call it personal preference. :p
*shock*

wait, am i still in General forum? did somebody just admit they were beaten, based purely on logical arguments? is there actually somebody here who is polite, honest, and willing to admit when they were wrong?!

far out, Lot, you receive 10 coolness points!
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 14:36
The problem is, the government is explicitly involved in marriage. They offer tax breaks, benefits, etc. Plus, a great many gay people are religious and want to express their love through a marriage and all that good stuff. I don't think it's about rubbing it in anyone's face anymore than the first black people to attend white segregated schools were doing it to "rub it in their face", or the first women to vote were doing it to "rub it in men's faces". It's all about equality.
I think they should (naturally) have the same rights as heterocouples. They should be able to register their relationship to gain the same benefits, but I would let it for the churches to deside if they want to allow gays to have church weddings or not. Then it becomes a religious question and government should stay away from those.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 14:43
I think they should (naturally) have the same rights as heterocouples. They should be able to register their relationship to gain the same benefits, but I would let it for the churches to deside if they want to allow gays to have church weddings or not. Then it becomes a religious question and government should stay away from those.
Churches can marry whoever the hell they want. If they take exception to marrying a Jew to a Christian, fine, it's their constitutional right to be assholes. But marrying in the legal civil sense should be denied to no two consenting adults.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 14:49
Here it's pure savings...no name changes or anything. But I still have a problem with churches...I live next to one. It's pure hell (heh) on Sunday mornings. 100m away is one, and again 500m to the other side another one. after a while you dont notice it anymore.

Oh no you admit you're evil, huh? You tried to convince me otherwise just minutes ago...oh the evilness :(
thats the core of pure evilness, build up the illusion your not evil until the time is right ... but more serious, we werent talking about evil, we were talking about opinions and how you see things, and that is something different isnt it?

I don't think you're evil. In my book evil requires some intelligence.
You're just deluded.
lol
questioning my intelligence now thats *cute*!
i havent questioned your intelligence or call you deluded now have i? but seeing that your probably just desperate so that you have to go to insults, maybe its better to ingnore you.
Preebles
22-10-2004, 14:54
Well I was (and am) pretty offended by the denigrating language that you used toward interracial relationships and children. I took them quite personally and I think I can be forgiven for doing so.

And I find your "think of the children" argument implausible. I mean, society isn't perfect, but by your logic any minority shouldn't have kids as they willl face discrimination. Doesn't fly with me.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 14:57
*shock*

wait, am i still in General forum? did somebody just admit they were beaten, based purely on logical arguments? is there actually somebody here who is polite, honest, and willing to admit when they were wrong?!

far out, Lot, you receive 10 coolness points!
yes i admit youve beaten me with your clever line of questions and useage of my answers. usually its me who does it exactly like this :(
ill remember you, next time you wont get such an easy prey.
and please notice, that i dont change my opinion because of this.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 15:08
And I find your "think of the children" argument implausible. I mean, society isn't perfect, but by your logic any minority shouldn't have kids as they willl face discrimination. Doesn't fly with me.
were at the root of the problem here. haveing minoritys in the first place is wrong and causes problems. we have separate countrys for every nationality so why not live there?
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 15:12
were at the root of the problem here. haveing minoritys in the first place is wrong and causes problems. we have separate countrys for every nationality so why not live there?
Uh huh...send the blacks back to Africa...deport the Jews to Israel...force all Native Americans onto reservations...

I'm still not sure if your entire persona is sarcasm or if you really are a fascist nut. :confused:
Preebles
22-10-2004, 15:14
were at the root of the problem here. haveing minoritys in the first place is wrong and causes problems. we have separate countrys for every nationality so why not live there?

Because not everyone is insecure in their identity such that they feel threatened by minorities?

Besides, populations migrate over time. Here's my case. My ancestors were taken by coercion from India to South Africa. We've lived there for 150 years. We are a minority in South Africa, yet we are also outsiders in India. I now live in Australia. Where do you propose I go???

I'm guessing you're from some country you perceive has been "overrun" with immigrants? In my mind, diversity is a GOOD thing.
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 15:16
were at the root of the problem here. haveing minoritys in the first place is wrong and causes problems. we have separate countrys for every nationality so why not live there?
Well that just isn't so simple, is it? First of all borders are artificial. (especially in Africa) And there are several races (if one wants to use that word) in many countries. I.e. Samis don't have their own country, neither don't Romas etc...

I'll continue later, have to go to eat something first

Ist doch so gut gewürzt
und so schön flambiert
und so liebevoll auf Porzellan serviert
Dazu ein guter Wein
und zarter Kerzenschein
Ja da lass ich mir Zeit
Etwas Kultur muss sein...
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 15:17
Uh huh...send the blacks back to Africa...deport the Jews to Israel...force all Native Americans onto reservations... leave america out, its made out only of immigrants. it doesnt count.
and the rest, well, why not?

I'm still not sure if your entire persona is sarcasm :confused:
im here for fun, improving discussion and english skills ;)
but maybe im completly serious, who knows :D
Spoffin
22-10-2004, 15:22
Idiot - nowhere in this definition of Marriage (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marriage) does it say "two people of the same race"

And what if two caucasian men wanted to get married? Technically, they are of the same race


GO TO ----, INBREEDER! MY BEST FRIEND IS HALF-EUROPEAN HALF-ASIAN!!!!! NO WAY IS HE AN ABOMINATION ON NATURE.

Oh, and INTERbreeding expands the gene pool, allowing a species to evolve for the BETTER.


The founding fathers were Diests, they believed in God alright (not necessarily Christian, I might add), but had FREEDOM FOR ALL RELIGIONS in mind when they founded this countryAm I the ONLY person who got the mockery without it having to be explained to me?
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:23
I banged every girl but an italian girl, but when i want to marry, i want it to be an italian girl. If i chose otherwise, i'd be a hypocrite when it comes to my personal beliefs of italia & how things work worldwide.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 15:30
Because not everyone is insecure in their identity such that they feel threatened by minorities? a minority is a threat to the majority when the minority threatens to change the majority. and sooner or later this is the case.

Besides, populations migrate over time. Here's my case. My ancestors were taken by coercion from India to South Africa. We've lived there for 150 years. We are a minority in South Africa, yet we are also outsiders in India. I now live in Australia. Where do you propose I go??? up to you. south afrika or india. or stay in australia. why should you move? you dont live in my country. :)

I'm guessing you're from some country you perceive has been "overrun" with immigrants? In my mind, diversity is a GOOD thing.
yes its threatened to be overrun.

and you surrender to the american cultural imperialism and think diversity of cultures in one country is a good thing? scaring.
Druthulhu
22-10-2004, 15:33
I banged every girl but an italian girl, but when i want to marry, i want it to be an italian girl. If i chose otherwise, i'd be a hypocrite when it comes to my personal beliefs of italia & how things work worldwide.

SLUT!!!
Druthulhu
22-10-2004, 15:35
a minority is a threat to the majority when the minority threatens to change the majority. and sooner or later this is the case.

Yeah, 'cause change is, like... bad. :rolleyes:
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:37
Americans ruined italian culture How? First and only people of correct latin decent, not defeated by the barbarian part-moor spaniards for natural resources and raped and pillaged like tribal south america and therefore, having that latin title. Romans were the only latins, and Roma is our capital, and we own the italian peninsula where they all came from!

I consider myself of great roman decent, and when we immigrated there in the millions, look it up, we were called latin, but persistant americans changed our outlook. Now more italians are out of itala then in italia, 75% of argentina is italian, and where's the culture? The US Census picks favorites, and in this case, the cultural, or weakly cultured majority.
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:38
Italia is in the MEDITERRANEAN, MEDITERRANEA! Most of italia fell in that loop-hole to the west, but i know the truth! North of roma is a fog!
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:41
There are 3 types of italians...

Blonde haired, blue eyed and skin that can burn minority that usjually comes from the north... has more european than mediterranean

moor italian.. very rare, but they are usually immigrants and they blend in well with the culture, that's why black women like italian men ;)

real italians.. dark hair, dark eyes..hazal is ok. doesn't burn but could be one pale mofo.. just shows that real italian blood... now that's mediterranean! don't mix up moor with italian or barbarian with true italians!
Preebles
22-10-2004, 15:44
a minority is a threat to the majority when the minority threatens to change the majority. and sooner or later this is the case.
Because all minorities are bent on cultural imperialism? rright. From my experience all people really want is a bit of respect.

And why is change such a bad thing? I recommend doing some reading on hybrid vigour and the evils of inbreeding.

up to you. south afrika or india. or stay in australia. why should you move? you dont live in my country.
Hurrah, I have your permission to live where I want as long as it's "not in my back yard."

and you surrender to the american cultural imperialism and think diversity of cultures in one country is a good thing? scaring.

The US doesn't have a monopoly on cultural diversity. In ancient times populations moved, mingled and had kids... Australia has a pretty mixed population, as do many many other countries. And even before the recent migrations, as someone has already pointed out, borders between countries are arbitrary. And race itself is such a silly concept. Where the hell do you draw the line? Should we use the "pencil test" that was used in the old South Africa? (It involved sticking a pencil in someone's hair. If it stayed in they were classed as African.) That's a nice little example showing how ridiculous racial "science" is.
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 15:44
Well that just isn't so simple, is it? First of all borders are artificial. (especially in Africa) And there are several races (if one wants to use that word) in many countries. I.e. Samis don't have their own country, neither don't Romas etc... i just knew someone would bring it up that some cultures/races dont have a country, i knew it!
so what about we let everyone form their own country they could be happy in? in case of the kurds it would cause a lot of trouble, but what the heck its not our trouble is it ;)
and if there are several races and cultures in a country you can make a public poll if they want to split.

Ist doch so gut gewürzt
und so schön flambiert
und so liebevoll auf Porzellan serviert
Dazu ein guter Wein
und zarter Kerzenschein
Ja da lass ich mir Zeit
Etwas Kultur muss sein...
mir knurrt der Magen
ich kanns nichtmehr ertragen
warum muss ich mich damit rumplagen
warum bringt mir niemand ne Pizza
vielleicht direkt aus Nizza
doch das ist nur ein Traum
darum geh ich gleich wen verhaun
Dontgivadamn
22-10-2004, 15:46
And here I thought a joke thread was supposed to be funny. Silly me! :gundge:
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:46
My personal beliefs are bringing back the roman structure & pushing everything italian worldwide like www.italianrap.com free musica! al mukawama is my personal favorite, check it out! The link to the left (i think), is more of a cultural page... the false theories of why we are so mediterranean, because one man named hanniable walked around with no chance of sieging any cities@ pathetic... we are italian, there is no arithmatic! (probably spelled it wrong)..

in inglese (english), things don't sound the way they're spelled! in italiano, you spell it the way you say it...
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:48
Australia didn't know anything about argriculture, in ww2, they took italian pow's and forced them top teach them how to farm! 1 reason why they exist today!! didn't let them leave and ruined their culture!!
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 15:51
And here I thought a joke thread was supposed to be funny. Silly me! :gundge:
it is. you just dont get the joke :D
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:53
I can point out for you who is a barbarian, real italian, or moor for you... like John Travolta real italian, though he has abandoned the culture!
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:57
It shows the barbarianism in 1500 years of barbarian rule in italia! But under the roman structure, we prevail!
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 15:58
Being italian is a state-of-mind! They are like wild stallions, but when they are loyal to you, the legion cannot be defeated! It only was under bad Emperor's and brbarian western leaders like gullible mussolini who befriended a dirty germanic barbarian! Austrian even is worse!
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 15:58
oh god. I'm ditching this *debate* already.
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:00
As they say. If you can't take italianism, you better ditch the propaganda!
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:02
Any italian who disagrees with me right now at this moment has that barbarian stock. The streak of defiance!!
Freedomfrize
22-10-2004, 16:02
what is a race?
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 16:04
your hijacking this thread to italy, your cruel. and evil.
Teh Cameron Clan
22-10-2004, 16:05
Ich denke, daß irgendein erhalten sollte in der LageIST verbunden zu, wem überhaupt wählen sein schmerzliches In der LageSEIN nicht, zu sein mit, wem Sie wünschen
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:05
A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
A genealogical line; a lineage.
Humans considered as a group.
Biology.
An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies.
A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.
A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.

I belong to the race of mediterranea and the utopia that it holds! The barbarians thought they ruined it, like the dirty vikings who invaded sicilia, but we prevailed!!

That's the definition of "race" anyway.
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:06
your hijacking this thread to italy, your cruel. and evil.

Heh, i apologize, i always bring that up... I've always been the 3rd party in a 2-party race...
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:09
I'd like to make a documentary on how the vikings stole roman ship designs after the fall of rome! darn
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 16:29
How many gears are there on an Italian tank?

4: 1 forward, and 3 reverse

Seriously, though, I'm against interracial marriage... but hell, I'm against inter-sex marriage. Women and men shouldn't get married... we're too different! How could we possibly get along for an extended period of time?
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:35
That was barbarian tactics for you, Marxlan. Small-minded, do you think real italians would fall so short?
Freedomfrize
22-10-2004, 16:39
A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
A genealogical line; a lineage.
Humans considered as a group.

Hah! the German race. Interesting... I suppose there is an Italian race too; would a German-Italian marriage be interracial, and would their child be a crossbreed? Or perhaps that goes inside a country too, there might be a Roman race and a Florentine race too? how many races are there actually? curious to know, and if they can combine between one another and to give what?
Kanabia
22-10-2004, 16:39
Are there any "real" Italians left?
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:43
Yes, as i said, there are 3 types of italians in italia, 1 being the majority... but if you don't be ashamed, you can call yourself a Roman as well, and an italian patriot no matter what your features are, but if you take offense to be pointed out that you have european or moor blood, you can't excell!
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:44
Italians naturally breed foreigns out.. how? italians were never a pure people, so when the majority mixes with a minority it gets more and more italian!
Freedomfrize
22-10-2004, 16:48
Italians naturally breed foreigns out.. how? italians were never a pure people, so when the majority mixes with a minority it gets more and more italian!

I just love your answer, actually. The whole thing wasn't directed at Italy or any other country; I wanted to convey my point that races are an abstraction, a social concept with no scientifical reality whatsoever. Still "races " do exist, but as a social fact, not a scientifical one.
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 16:50
That was barbarian tactics for you, Marxlan. Small-minded, do you think real italians would fall so short?
Yes. I am a "barbarian", but only because the Greeks and Romans used that word to describe anyone who wasn't Greek or Roman respectively.
Relax about the joke, because I can tell jokes about every ethnic group..

What's a seven course Irish meal?
Potato and a six-pack of beer.

What do you do when you see a black boy riding a bike?
Run after him: it's your bike!

How do you know an Asian robbed your house?
Your homework is done, the computer's upgraded, and the bastard is still trying to pull out of the driveway.

Angus came into the pub and ordered a drink. He gets to talking and moans about his life.
"For three years I built ships: fine, strong ships! Did they call me 'Angus the boatbuilder'? Noo. I built houses for five years; good, warm homes. Did they call me 'Angus the house-builder'? Nooo. I spent ten years building a castle. A CASTLE! And do ya think they called me 'Angus the castle-builder'? Noo!
But ya fuck one goat...."

Hitler: I killed 6 million Jews and one clown!
Bartender: Why a clown?
Hitler: I told you no-one cared about the Jews!

Things not to say in certain countries:
France: Can I get an order of Freedom Fries?
China: That wall's no so great!
Russia: Is it always so cold and economically devastated?
South Africa: I liked it better the other way.

Finally: How is a blonde like Australia?
They're both down under and no-one cares.
Layarteb
22-10-2004, 16:51
As rascist as this is going to sound, and no I am not a racist (disclaimer) I do not believe in interracial marriage or breeding. I think races ought to stick to their own kind. Now I know this is going to be torn apart so go ahead.
Kanabia
22-10-2004, 16:54
Hahaha, Marxlan, great jokes.

Layarteb, mind if I ask why you think that?
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:56
I just love your answer, actually. The whole thing wasn't directed at Italy or any other country; I wanted to convey my point that races are an abstraction, a social concept with no scientifical reality whatsoever. Still "races " do exist, but as a social fact, not a scientifical one.

Look at classical kaposi sarcoma! only people that gets it is people in the mediterranean and eastern jews... africans get a similar but different kind
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 16:57
No marxla.. i was calling the italian commanders small-minded not you lol.. but funny jokes, indeed!@
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 16:57
Hahaha, Marxlan, great jokes.

I love it when I'm appreciated.... anyone know a joke about Canadians? I know all the internal, political ones, but none making fun of Canada from the outside. I just want to make sure I'm balanced in my making fun of all races equitably. ;)
Preebles
22-10-2004, 16:58
Freddie Mercury had Kaposi's sarcoma. It's a common secondary condition to AIDS. And he was Indian of Persian descent although he was born in Zanzibar.
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 16:58
No marxla.. i was calling the italian commanders small-minded not you lol.. but funny jokes, indeed!@
Ah! I see. I thought you meant I was using "barbarian tactics" by attacking you.
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:01
Freddie Mercury had Kaposi's sarcoma. It's a common secondary condition to AIDS. And he was Indian of Persian descent although he was born in Zanzibar.

He was said to be of great italian decent! Nicholas Cage is italian.....
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:02
Ah! I see. I thought you meant I was using "barbarian tactics" by attacking you.

nah.. i meant with the crappy tanks, so weak.... its almost like a barbarian built it!! LOL
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 17:03
nah.. i meant with the crappy tanks, so weak.... its almost like a barbarian built it!! LOL
Fair enough.
I bet you're a big fan of Garibaldi and Cavour, eh?
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:06
Yes. Mazzini as well....... More like a barbarian designed it rather.
Kanabia
22-10-2004, 17:07
I love it when I'm appreciated.... anyone know a joke about Canadians? I know all the internal, political ones, but none making fun of Canada from the outside. I just want to make sure I'm balanced in my making fun of all races equitably. ;)

Hmm, not really. Over here, we think Canadians are pretty cool. Ask a yank instead :p
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:10
I just was a natural italian-interest speaker. I get better and better every month because i read more and more. I made up everyhing, and the whole idea really.............
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 17:10
Yes. Mazzini as well....... More like a barbarian designed it rather.
I was going to say Mazzini, but I couldn't for the life of me remember his name..... geez, this thread used to be a satire about interracial marriage, until your Roman ideas came and conquered it.

Well, all I can say is there's no way I'd ever marry a niggard, or allow a relative to marry one..... anyone gonna bite?
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:12
I don't mind the way you work, but i'd like a nice italian wife. I'm banging this ukranian girl currentl.... ah, communism is a beautiful thing ;)
Ogiek
22-10-2004, 17:14
This is a goofy thread. Biologically there is no such thing as race. It is entirely a human construct, as is marriage. Genetically there is virtually no difference between one "race" and another.
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 17:15
Hmm, not really. Over here, we think Canadians are pretty cool. Ask a yank instead :p
Ah, the horrible burden of being loved.. Umm, I'd never marry an American, either! Dumb Yanks! Or anyone who wasn't born in Canada!.... no, that's bullshit. I've been known to get weak-kneed hearing an Australian accent....
How about I won't marry any woman from outside the Commonwealth? Yeah, that works.... though women and men are just so different! How can we possibly co-exist in the same households and try to raise children together?
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:16
I'm seeing this whacky witch-hunt preview on the history channel.. gheeze, i'd love a witch in my cabinet lol... i'd pay her very good if she works! If she doesn't, then it'll probably be a crime to falsly state things to get in the government.....
Poo-rovia
22-10-2004, 17:18
I'm with you man.

And I think my latest mail-order Russian bride is on board too, I don't speak commie, and she don't speak American.

The last one was a joke, she knew just enough American to talk back, so I got a refund.

:rolleyes:
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:21
Very good in bed ;)
Kanabia
22-10-2004, 17:24
They're actually commie spies, you know.

In Soviet Russia, woman f***s you!
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 17:26
Genetically there is virtually no difference between one "race" and another.
Sure, but that's genetically; it's hardly what's important. Don't you get it? Other races, like, look different! :eek:
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 17:28
They're actually commie spies, you know.

In Soviet Russia, woman f***s you!
In Soviet Russia, Freedom of Speech exercises you!
Actually
22-10-2004, 17:30
My friends - don't waste your breath arguing against these racist assholes - just look at the poll results. They lose. Actually, they lost a long time ago. This fight is over, although, not to them I guess.

Maybe you racists should take a time machine back to the 1950s and enjoy some nice white family life.... full of repressed feelings, hidden desires, false enjoyment and unjustified fear of the Soviet Union.

Honestly, get over it. The world is becoming more globalized with each passing second, and the sooner you end your self-imposed isolation of the mind, the healthier you'll be.

Man the sooner all these racists die and next generation of more tolerant people take over, the better.
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:35
Most of my family went to america in 1958, whereas the americans tried to take their culture@!
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 17:36
My friends - don't waste your breath arguing against these racist assholes - just look at the poll results. They lose. Actually, they lost a long time ago. This fight is over, although, not to them I guess.

Maybe you racists should take a time machine back to the 1950s and enjoy some nice white family life.... full of repressed feelings, hidden desires, false enjoyment and unjustified fear of the Soviet Union.

Honestly, get over it. The world is becoming more globalized with each passing second, and the sooner you end your self-imposed isolation of the mind, the healthier you'll be.

Man the sooner all these racists die and next generation of more tolerant people take over, the better.
..... I think he missed the joke.
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 17:57
Yes, i think so lol
Ogiek
22-10-2004, 18:13
Sure, but that's genetically; it's hardly what's important. Don't you get it? Other races, like, look different! :eek:

I suppose to other sheep there is a great deal of difference as well. Why not divide the people of the world by hair color, or eye color, or the length of index fingers and call that race? It makes about as much sense.
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 18:15
I suppose to other sheep there is a great deal of difference as well. Why not divide the people of the world by hair color, or eye color, or the length of index fingers and call that race? It makes about as much sense.
Now you're getting it! Segregate according to sex, too, don't forget. Men and women are far too different to marry or live together. :)
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 18:18
Now you're getting it! Segregate according to sex, too, don't forget. Men and women are far too different to marry or live together. :)

Yes, if done the wrong way, i see it as a form of un-needed weakness!
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 18:40
Yes, if done the wrong way, i see it as a form of un-needed weakness!
I like the way you think, but you don't go far enough. There is no right way! Segregate everything! All the time! Men and women should only have to see eachother to reproduce!
(Wondering if Ogiek is catching on to my sarcasm yet.)
FewGoodMen
22-10-2004, 18:40
You all need more to do this is one of the lamest threads I have seen since the whole gay marriage thing.
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 18:42
You all need more to do this is one of the lamest threads I have seen since the whole gay marriage thing.
Lame isn't so bad. Come on, accept it! You know you want to be lame, and you want to be square... it's SO liberating.

Don't tell me that I'm Crazy
Don't tell me I'm nowhere
Take it frooooom me
It's hip to be square!
-Huey Lewis and the News
Freedomfrize
22-10-2004, 18:44
edit - http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/125/8/675
FewGoodMen
22-10-2004, 18:46
Thats my point.. Lame... and Hewey louis and the news... join us in the millinium...
Marxlan
22-10-2004, 18:50
Thats my point.. Lame... and Hewey louis and the news... join us in the millinium...
I don't wanna! I want to listen to music that's almost as old as I am. I may have grown up in the Nineties, but dammit, I was born in the eighties!
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 19:07
I like the way you think, but you don't go far enough. There is no right way! Segregate everything! All the time! Men and women should only have to see eachother to reproduce!
(Wondering if Ogiek is catching on to my sarcasm yet.)

Not bad at all, but who will be in charge of the segregation? I'm sure the enforcers will be more than happy heh
IITTAALLIIAA
22-10-2004, 19:08
Thats my point.. Lame... and Hewey louis and the news... join us in the millinium...

That music is entertaining heh
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 19:59
mir knurrt der Magen
ich kanns nichtmehr ertragen
warum muss ich mich damit rumplagen
warum bringt mir niemand ne Pizza
vielleicht direkt aus Nizza
doch das ist nur ein Traum
darum geh ich gleich wen verhaun
Eventhough you are generally against mixing different cultures you can not wait to get your dirty hands on a ITALIAN pizza. from Nizza...you know you should just eat some Sauerkraut? ;)

The whole race-thing is so huge that
that
that
You really want to go on with it?
I've recently read a book about the ideological history of racism. It was really interesting, though some parts were pretty obvious. First we should have an agreement of what we both mean with the word "race"....
In general I'm always interested to involve in such discussions, but not 10 pm on Friday night...
(what am I doing here anyway...?sad)
Lotringen
22-10-2004, 20:14
Eventhough you are generally against mixing different cultures you can not wait to get your dirty hands on a ITALIAN pizza. from Nizza...you know you should just eat some Sauerkraut? ;)

The whole race-thing is so huge that
that
that
You really want to go on with it?
I've recently read a book about the ideological history of racism. It was really interesting, though some parts were pretty obvious. First we should have an agreement of what we both mean with the word "race"....
In general I'm always interested to involve in such discussions, but not 10 pm on Friday night...
(what am I doing here anyway...?sad)
that was my answer to your strange rhyme. a stupid rhyme. and what wrong with pizza? havent i told you enough that you know where this conservative idea begins and where it does not apply?
and we could continue this discussion another time. id rather play Morrowind now. (or with a cute girl but ... maybe tomorrow :D )
Helioterra
22-10-2004, 20:18
that was my answer to your strange rhyme. a stupid rhyme. and what wrong with pizza? havent i told you enough that you know where this conservative idea begins and where it does not apply?
and we could continue this discussion another time. id rather play Morrowind now. (or with a cute girl but ... maybe tomorrow :D )
Well my quote was from Rammstein's Mein Teil....Yours was, apparently, yours. Ten points for that anyway :)

And nothing wrong with pizza...it's just fun to try to get you mad... ;)
Layarteb
22-10-2004, 20:37
Layarteb, mind if I ask why you think that?

Certainly. Because it essentially begins a new generation of a cultural diffusion where the child either "isn't white enough or isn't black enough" to use the black/white as an example. Lots of the children go through ridicule in school and when you begin a new generation of such you effectively proceed to remove the cultural identity of the previous ones. I think it goes for all races, not just one or the other and not just the man or the woman. It's one of those old fashioned viewpoints I hold onto.
Equus
22-10-2004, 21:08
If you lived in Canada, well if you lived in Eastern Canada that is, you could say that and only get a few angry replies. But out in the wild west where I live, they'd chase ya out of town!

Hey, don't lump us British Columbians in with the Albertans! We're farther west than you, but gay marriage is a go here, remember.