NationStates Jolt Archive


Where is PETA now?

Biff Pileon
21-10-2004, 21:53
They constantly chime in on Bush and his policies.....

But Kerry goes out to shoot some defenseless geese and "try" to show that he is pro-gun to win a few votes and they are silent.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6296699/

Kerry has so many anti-gun votes in the Senate that this stunt even looks silly.
THE LOST PLANET
21-10-2004, 22:12
:rolleyes: Catch a clue, Kerry's been a hunter for decades, but like a lot of us, he doesn't believe assault weapons and being able to by guns unrestricted at gun shows or online have anything to do with real hunting.
Arammanar
21-10-2004, 22:24
:rolleyes: Catch a clue, Kerry's been a hunter for decades, but like a lot of us, he doesn't believe assault weapons and being able to by guns unrestricted at gun shows or online have anything to do with real hunting.
Still, it does make one wonder why PETA isn't condemning this.
The Zoogie People
21-10-2004, 22:32
Because Bush is teh sux!! He mutilates all the poor animals and orders the farmers to kill them, in a very mean way too!

I just realized that since it is harder to convey written sarcasm, many of you might not notice how the above comment is dripping with sarcasm.
Zwing-gowy
21-10-2004, 22:41
All of u politicians out there just do this, go buy Fahrenheit 9/11 and see for urself why shrub is such a dumbass. If shrub wins again i am movin to another country and go crazy on his ass :mp5: :sniper: :headbang: :gundge:
Copiosa Scotia
21-10-2004, 22:48
All of u politicians out there just do this, go buy Fahrenheit 9/11 and see for urself why shrub is such a dumbass. If shrub wins again i am movin to another country and go crazy on his ass :mp5: :sniper: :headbang: :gundge:

Congratulations on getting your political information from partisan hack jobs masquerading as documentaries.
Arammanar
21-10-2004, 22:49
All of u politicians out there just do this, go buy Fahrenheit 9/11 and see for urself why shrub is such a dumbass. If shrub wins again i am movin to another country and go crazy on his ass :mp5: :sniper: :headbang: :gundge:
Why is it that everyone with less than ten posts that uses more than one weapon smilely is invariably an idiot?
Sleepytime Villa
21-10-2004, 22:59
All of u politicians out there just do this, go buy Fahrenheit 9/11 and see for urself why shrub is such a dumbass. If shrub wins again i am movin to another country and go crazy on his ass :mp5: :sniper: :headbang: :gundge:


when bush wins just post your address and i will gladly give you a lift to canada...dumbass..thanx
Kenata
21-10-2004, 23:00
Why is it that everyone with less than ten posts that uses more than one weapon smilely is invariably an idiot?


that was hilarious :) ;) :sniper: :gundge: :mp5: :gundge: :gundge: :cool: :headbang: :D
Heosonfru
21-10-2004, 23:00
Why is it that everyone with less than ten posts that uses more than one weapon smilely is invariably an idiot?


Good point....

regardless, I think PETA isnt condemning Kerry because they know that the hunting thing is probably nothing more than a publicity stunt.

as for a "few" votes, fo you know how many registered voters the NRA comprieses of?

try somewhere between 3 and 5 million.

Then there are all the hunters that have nothing to do with the NRA...

if you had any awareness of the actual number of hunters, then you would know that hunters make up a *huge* percentage of the voter bloc that voted for Bush in 2000.
Arammanar
21-10-2004, 23:00
that was hilarious :) ;) :sniper: :gundge: :mp5: :gundge: :gundge: :cool: :headbang: :D
Or ironic. Very ironic.
FireClan
21-10-2004, 23:19
Do you support PETA? Or just follow up on what theyre doing? If you support PETA...*runs away in terror*
La Terra di Liberta
21-10-2004, 23:40
Ah, this sort of reminds me of my PETA bashing thread I made a month or so ago. Much as I said there, they are extremists.
FireClan
21-10-2004, 23:50
PETA-bashing thread...hahaha...do you watch Penn & Teller?
La Terra di Liberta
22-10-2004, 00:16
PETA-bashing thread...hahaha...do you watch Penn & Teller?



Who is the question directed towards?
Biff Pileon
22-10-2004, 13:58
:rolleyes: Catch a clue, Kerry's been a hunter for decades, but like a lot of us, he doesn't believe assault weapons and being able to by guns unrestricted at gun shows or online have anything to do with real hunting.

Catch a clue yourself. Kerry gets a grade of "F" from the NRA and then goes out like Elmer Fudd (he even looked like him) to hunt geese to try and win over a few voters and show that he is like the average guy. Good try....but no donut for you John.
Jabbaness
22-10-2004, 14:01
You know PETA would be all over it, if it was Ted Nugent doing the hunting..

LOL! :mp5:
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 14:07
PETA isn't condemning it because Kerry didn't torture the geese. He just shot them. I wasn't aware that PETA is anti-killing animals. Because, you know, we're not all vegetarians. I just thought PETA was against animals being kept in little cages their whole life, shitting through the wire onto the animals below them, tossed live in wood chippers, etc.
Lex Terrae
22-10-2004, 14:18
You know, PETA chicks are great in the sack. I don't know what it is. I suggest banging one. Of course, you'll have to not eat meat in front of them. But I used to wait until she left and then ordered buffalo wings and cheese steaks. Nothing like a nice cheese steak and cold brew after banging the hell out of a PETA chick.
Styvonia
22-10-2004, 14:54
All of u politicians out there just do this, go buy Fahrenheit 9/11 and see for urself why shrub is such a dumbass. If shrub wins again i am movin to another country and go crazy on his ass :mp5: :sniper: :headbang: :gundge:

You Americans could stop hunting geese and just shoot all your idiots, there's more eating in them anyway.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 14:58
You Americans could stop hunting geese and just shoot all your idiots, there's more eating in them anyway.
But then who would be left in the South? ;)
Styvonia
22-10-2004, 15:00
But then who would be left in the South? ;)

At the moment, they're breeding faster than you could shoot them. You could always import idiots from other countries, there's plenty to go round.
Chodolo
22-10-2004, 15:05
At the moment, they're breeding faster than you could shoot them. You could always import idiots from other countries, there's plenty to go round.
Ah yes. Them religious folk don't believe in contraception. :p
Styvonia
22-10-2004, 15:06
Ah yes. Them religious folk don't believe in contraception. :p

every sperm is sacred and such.
Ogiek
22-10-2004, 15:16
Ridiculous. Who every heard of eating goose on peta? Lamb, yes, but goose?

No, it should be served with a nice molasses glaze, apricot stuffing, and wild rice with hazelnuts and apple. How is it that this issue was overlooked in the debates?
Reaganodia
22-10-2004, 15:28
All of u politicians out there just do this, go buy Fahrenheit 9/11 and see for urself why shrub is such a dumbass. If shrub wins again i am movin to another country and go crazy on his ass :mp5: :sniper: :headbang: :gundge:


Micheal Moore: the Leni Reifenstahl of the Democrat Party.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out, loser.
Suiiki
22-10-2004, 15:43
Peta scares me. I've heard that they go around blowing up labs and stuff just to get attention...and don't even care about the fact that blowing up the lab will kill the animals too.

And could a mod please do something about Lex Terrae's post? I feel that was very rude and uncalled for, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Ogiek
22-10-2004, 16:13
Micheal Moore: the Leni Reifenstahl of the Democrat Party.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out, loser.

Ah, the favorite tool of the Conservatoids - unable to refute an argument they resort to name calling. Using the same tactics one might just as easily refer to Karl Rove and John Ashcroft as the Joseph Goebbels and Heinrich Himmler of the Bush Administration. However, what would that accomplish?

What not simply refute Michael Moore's main points? 1) George W. Bush ignored the real war on terror and made the country more unsafe by attacking a nation that had nothing to do with 9-11; 2) George W. Bush and his cronies have ties to the Saudi Kingdom that have prevented him from pursuing the royal family's links to 9-11; 3) George W. Bush used the terrorist attacks to infringe upon the freedoms of law abiding Americans by passing the woefully misnamed Patriot Act, which actually does very little to protect Americans from real terrorists.

Those are legitimate criticism that deserves a hearing in the court of public opinion. Michael Moore did what the corporate conservative media was too afraid to do - he asked tough questions. The real outrage on the part of the Right is that, after eight years of the most vicious, personal attacks on Bill Clinton, they are offended that anyone would dare question their president.
DeaconDave
22-10-2004, 16:13
:rolleyes: Catch a clue, Kerry's been a hunter for decades, but like a lot of us, he doesn't believe assault weapons and being able to by guns unrestricted at gun shows or online have anything to do with real hunting.


No he hasn't, he didn't even know that decoy hunting was illegal in his own state.

"Kerry's been a hunter for decade......I'm a wanker"

Pratt.
Keljamistan
22-10-2004, 17:02
Ah, the favorite tool of the Conservatoids - unable to refute an argument they resort to name calling. Using the same tactics one might just as easily refer to Karl Rove and John Ashcroft as the Joseph Goebbels and Heinrich Himmler of the Bush Administration. However, what would that accomplish?

What not simply refute Michael Moore's main points? 1) George W. Bush ignored the real war on terror and made the country more unsafe by attacking a nation that had nothing to do with 9-11; 2) George W. Bush and his cronies have ties to the Saudi Kingdom that have prevented him from pursuing the royal family's links to 9-11; 3) George W. Bush used the terrorist attacks to infringe upon the freedoms of law abiding Americans by passing the woefully misnamed Patriot Act, which actually does very little to protect Americans from real terrorists.

Those are legitimate criticism that deserves a hearing in the court of public opinion. Michael Moore did what the corporate conservative media was too afraid to do - he asked tough questions. The real outrage on the part of the Right is that, after eight years of the most vicious, personal attacks on Bill Clinton, they are offended that anyone would dare question their president.

You know, I had several paragraphs written to refute those very points. Then, I realized that it is a pointless gesture. You believe Michael Moore, I think he's a pontificating blowhard. We'll just agree to disagree.

I accept criticism. I accept theories. I accept accusations.

You're so entrenched in your beliefs (as I may well be, in mine) that arguing or debating is a moot point. Let's just vote on it.
Reaganodia
22-10-2004, 17:15
Those are legitimate criticism that deserves a hearing in the court of public opinion. Michael Moore did what the corporate conservative media was too afraid to do - he asked tough questions. The real outrage on the part of the Right is that, after eight years of the most vicious, personal attacks on Bill Clinton, they are offended that anyone would dare question their president.


"corporate conservative media"?????

What color is the sky in the planet you live on?

I you are going to defend a communist gasbag college drop-out filmmaker and the disgraced, impeached, disbarred President Clinton, more power to you.


Clever editing, out of context quotes and black helicopter conspiracy theories do not equal truth.
Ogiek
22-10-2004, 18:07
"corporate conservative media"?????

What color is the sky in the planet you live on?

I you are going to defend a communist gasbag college drop-out filmmaker and the disgraced, impeached, disbarred President Clinton, more power to you.


Clever editing, out of context quotes and black helicopter conspiracy theories do not equal truth.

You make my point once again. You don't have the intellectual wherewithall to argue for or against something so you throw out invectives and think you are engaging in discourse.

The three points I brought up should be easy to refute, coming as they do from a "communist gasbag college drop-out filmmaker."

As to the corporate conservative media, almost all of the news outlets in the country are now owned by a media cartel composed of AOL Time Warner, Disney, General Electric, Rupert Murdoch's News Corproation, Viacom, and Vivendi Universal. Do you think the board rooms of these corporations are hotbeds of liberalism? Do you really expect reporters and editors working for the corporate media cartel to choose the public interest over the best interests of their parent companies?

The greatest trick the conservative media every pulled was to convince the world they don't exit.
Dementate
22-10-2004, 18:54
Peta scares me. I've heard that they go around blowing up labs and stuff just to get attention...and don't even care about the fact that blowing up the lab will kill the animals too.

We've had incidents around here from a group I believe is known as the Animal Liberation Front. Anyone else heard of them? It was maybe a year or so ago they targeted mink farms in the state, basically breaking in and setting free all the minks (they were probably going to be turned into coats or something). Since they were all raised in captivity, none of them knew how to survive in the wild. Over half were killed on the roads in just a few days. Any that weren't rounded up and returned probably were killed by predators or just died a long, slow death from starvation.
BastardSword
22-10-2004, 19:15
We've had incidents around here from a group I believe is known as the Animal Liberation Front. Anyone else heard of them? It was maybe a year or so ago they targeted mink farms in the state, basically breaking in and setting free all the minks (they were probably going to be turned into coats or something). Since they were all raised in captivity, none of them knew how to survive in the wild. Over half were killed on the roads in just a few days. Any that weren't rounded up and returned probably were killed by predators or just died a long, slow death from starvation.
Green Peace is also one of those bombing groups I think aren't they?

And Peta though I disagree with many of their stances doesn't go around bombing people. They are not affiliated with ALF.
Dempublicents
22-10-2004, 19:17
We've had incidents around here from a group I believe is known as the Animal Liberation Front. Anyone else heard of them? It was maybe a year or so ago they targeted mink farms in the state, basically breaking in and setting free all the minks (they were probably going to be turned into coats or something). Since they were all raised in captivity, none of them knew how to survive in the wild. Over half were killed on the roads in just a few days. Any that weren't rounded up and returned probably were killed by predators or just died a long, slow death from starvation.

This is one of my favorite beefs with groups like PETA/ALF/etc. They whine and complain about experimental animals, but don't seem to realize that lab animals couldn't be released into the wild. They have been bred so that they do not carry the same diseases (and are often immunosuppressed because of it) and have often been genetically modified. Releasing them into the wild (if they survived at all) would destroy the ecosystem. Thus, every PETA member who calls for an end to all animal experimentation is advocating wholesale killing of every lab animal immediately.