NationStates Jolt Archive


Bush and Kerry are cousins, see the family tree

Mr Basil Fawlty
21-10-2004, 16:22
Strange things:


http://msn.ancestry.com/landing/strange/bush4/tree.htm
Shizensky
21-10-2004, 16:26
They do this every election.
Mr Basil Fawlty
21-10-2004, 16:28
They do this every election.

Who, Bush and Kerry? :rolleyes:
Torching Witches
21-10-2004, 16:29
9th cousins, twice removed - they'll both have a lot of them.
DeaconDave
21-10-2004, 16:34
Does anyone else find it scary that the ancestry of these two asshats can be traced so far back so easily.

I can get to about great great grand parents, and that's it. Why is it the geneology of the two candidates is so detailed, is this a conspiracy.
Torching Witches
21-10-2004, 16:40
Does anyone else find it scary that the ancestry of these two asshats can be traced so far back so easily.

I can get to about great great grand parents, and that's it. Why is it the geneology of the two candidates is so detailed, is this a conspiracy.

They come from rich families with portraits and everything.

Wealth is directly proportional to distance you can trace back your family tree.
Mr Basil Fawlty
21-10-2004, 16:52
Does anyone else find it scary that the ancestry of these two asshats can be traced so far back so easily.

I can get to about great great grand parents, and that's it. Why is it the geneology of the two candidates is so detailed, is this a conspiracy.


Well, in Utah, the mormons can track everybody if possible. It is a bit like a obligation for them, even the smallest village in EUrope in the 15th century is recherched if possible by them.

When they find a ancester, they baptise him so your (or another) ancester can go to heaven (altough your ancester perhaps never agrees with the baptisme).
Demented Hamsters
21-10-2004, 17:25
When they find a ancester, they baptise him so your (or another) ancester can go to heaven (altough your ancester perhaps never agrees with the baptism).
That brings to mind a vision of some guy happily enscounced in Hell, enjoying a drink with Satan or Mephistoles or whoever, a Bikini model on his arm, hard rock playing. Suddenly he feels himself getting lighter and lighter, then floating upwards, ever upwards.
"WTF's happening?!"
Eventually he gets to Heaven.
"Good luck", St Peter tells him, "One of your ancestors (a few times removed) just had you researched by the Mormons and you've been Baptised. Here's your harp and your long johns. No drinks allowed. No licientious clothing, no rock music."
Cax
21-10-2004, 19:00
Actually, at some level, we are all cousins. We all descended from a pretty small original population, and this would be even more true in America, being as it was a British colony. This really isn't amazing at all.
CSW
21-10-2004, 19:12
Actually, at some level, we are all cousins. We all descended from a pretty small original population, and this would be even more true in America, being as it was a British colony. This really isn't amazing at all.
Ever hear of immigrants?
Cax
21-10-2004, 20:01
Ever hear of immigrants?
Yes, but this traces it from two people. The thing is, family trees spread out as well as up, so if you go high enough from any two people, you'll eventually find a related ancestor. There's also a fait amount of incest between distant cousins: There must be. If you work it out, you have two parents. Each of them had two. So, there are this many people leading to you:
2 + 4 + 8 +16 + 32 + 64 + 128 ....
But above 25 generations, it's in the trillions. So there must be incest. Thus, everyone is related. It's a matter of how close. The Bush/Kerry thing isn't impressive.