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Theresa Heinz-Kerry

Biff Pileon
21-10-2004, 14:22
Why have they not put a muzzle on this idiot? Who is she going to insult next?

She insults Mrs. Bush by stating that she did not think she had ever had a "real" job. Thus insulting teachers/librarians as well.

Then she "apologises" by stating that being a teacher/librarian is an important job. By doing this she insulted stay-at-home mothers who consider raising their children to be a "real" job.

I am starting to feel sorry for Kerry for being married to this moron. One thing is clear, money cannot by class or intelligence.
Bottle
21-10-2004, 14:31
Then she "apologises" by stating that being a teacher/librarian is an important job. By doing this she insulted stay-at-home mothers who consider raising their children to be a "real" job.

wait, what did she say? because you are implying that by praising teachers/librarians (who are NOT always female), Teressa was insulting stay at home moms...that doesn't make sense to me. if her statement included some slam against stay at home mothers then that's different, i haven't read the statement.
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 14:35
This hasn't been an election campaign, it's been a campaign of slander... each side trying to make the other side look worse, instead of trying to make themselves look better.

Damn rich bastards.
The Force Majeure
21-10-2004, 14:37
Biff's correct in his statement. Kerry was insinuating that homemaking is not a real job.
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 14:38
Biff's correct in his statement. Kerry was insinuating that homemaking is not a real job.

Technically it's a job. they get paid for it in britain-Child support.
Biff Pileon
21-10-2004, 14:38
wait, what did she say? because you are implying that by praising teachers/librarians (who are NOT always female), Teressa was insulting stay at home moms...that doesn't make sense to me. if her statement included some slam against stay at home mothers then that's different, i haven't read the statement.

She stated that Mrs. Bush did not have a "real" job and just stayed at home. The fact that she worked outside the home AND raised two daughters is job enough for most. Stay at home mothers have REAL jobs. Much harder than most who work outside the home.
Bottle
21-10-2004, 14:42
She stated that Mrs. Bush did not have a "real" job and just stayed at home. The fact that she worked outside the home AND raised two daughters is job enough for most.

ahh, i see. thanks for clearing that up...it does seem like she made a politically bad move in saying that.


Stay at home mothers have REAL jobs. Much harder than most who work outside the home.
now THAT i must disagree with. i think a woman who works AND raises children has it much harder than a woman who can devote all her energy to one or the other; both have the same responsibilities, but the one with both job and children must give up much more of her personal time (and sleep time :P) to fulfill those responsibilities. i think you are undervaluing working mothers...just because Teressa undervalued stay-at-homes doesn't mean you would be right for making the opposite assertion.
Biff Pileon
21-10-2004, 14:47
ahh, i see. thanks for clearing that up...it does seem like she made a politically bad move in saying that.


now THAT i must disagree with. i think a woman who works AND raises children has it much harder than a woman who can devote all her energy to one or the other; both have the same responsibilities, but the one with both job and children must give up much more of her personal time (and sleep time :P) to fulfill those responsibilities. i think you are undervaluing working mothers...just because Teressa undervalued stay-at-homes doesn't mean you would be right for making the opposite assertion.

Yes she has made several bad statements....telling the reporter to "shove it" when he caught her in a lie was one of my favorites.

She has no concept of what the average person in this country does on a daily basis nor how we live. She and her husband would be a disaster in the White House.
Bottle
21-10-2004, 14:50
Yes she has made several bad statements....telling the reporter to "shove it" when he caught her in a lie was one of my favorites.

meh, Cheney dropped the f-bomb. i don't much care about these little tantrums.


She has no concept of what the average person in this country does on a daily basis nor how we live. She and her husband would be a disaster in the White House.
and you think Bush or his wife have an idea what the common man is up to?! get over it; both candidates are ludicrously elitest, and neither one has the faintest idea what it is like to be an average person in this country.
Togarmah
21-10-2004, 14:51
Why have they not put a muzzle on this idiot? Who is she going to insult next?

She insults Mrs. Bush by stating that she did not think she had ever had a "real" job. Thus insulting teachers/librarians as well.

Then she "apologises" by stating that being a teacher/librarian is an important job. By doing this she insulted stay-at-home mothers who consider raising their children to be a "real" job.

I am starting to feel sorry for Kerry for being married to this moron. One thing is clear, money cannot by class or intelligence.

Its fairly ironic that someone, who let's face it, has spent the bulk of her life basically behaving like a high class prositute feels the need to look down on everyone else now she's hit the "jackpot."

On the other hand what do you expect from euro-trash.
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 14:51
To further Bottles statement, I think that both Kerry and Bush are useless, and should be shot.

*Bottles Bottle with a Bottle*
Kecibukia
21-10-2004, 14:55
Yes she has made several bad statements....telling the reporter to "shove it" when he caught her in a lie was one of my favorites.

She has no concept of what the average person in this country does on a daily basis nor how we live. She and her husband would be a disaster in the White House.

But what she really meant by that was.. um..um.. uh.....

"BUSH IS AN IDIOT!!!"


Sarcasm
Chess Squares
21-10-2004, 14:58
Biff's correct in his statement. Kerry was insinuating that homemaking is not a real job.
in america, it isnt a REAL job, you dont get paid for it. now whether it is difficult or not is a different story entirely
Chess Squares
21-10-2004, 14:59
Technically it's a job. they get paid for it in britain-Child support.
thats one of those evil socialist programs in the US so it doesnt happen, men who get divorces pay child support in addition to giving up everything else
Chess Squares
21-10-2004, 15:00
Its fairly ironic that someone, who let's face it, has spent the bulk of her life basically behaving like a high class prositute feels the need to look down on everyone else now she's hit the "jackpot."

On the other hand what do you expect from euro-trash.
i find it ironic that you go nowhere into the topic but rather out of your way to insult mrs kerry and pretend its on topic
The Black Forrest
21-10-2004, 15:02
meh, Cheney dropped the f-bomb. i don't much care about these little tantrums.


and you think Bush or his wife have an idea what the common man is up to?! get over it; both candidates are ludicrously elitest, and neither one has the faintest idea what it is like to be an average person in this country.

I really don't care about the tantrums. I think electionering would be more interesting if candidates showed their "true" sides during elections.

As to the common man comment; couldn't have said it any better!

I find it interesting that conservatives and now I guess Liberterians consider the stay at home mom a holy figure.

Yet they seem to think that economics that force mothers into the workplace is ok.
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 15:03
thats one of those evil socialist programs in the US so it doesnt happen, men who get divorces pay child support in addition to giving up everything else

heh-the Labour party is supposed to be socialist, but blair is so far up bushes ass he's looking at being just as bad as the conservatives... (When you are as bad as them, ITS BAD!)
Diamond Mind
21-10-2004, 15:07
Biff's correct in his statement. Kerry was insinuating that homemaking is not a real job.
Yeah well like it or not, try and explain that on your resume, it hurts in most situations. Even more so if you're an "at home dad".
Togarmah
21-10-2004, 15:13
i find it ironic that you go nowhere into the topic but rather out of your way to insult mrs kerry and pretend its on topic

That's not ironic, that's just me being rude. Duh.
Chess Squares
21-10-2004, 15:17
That's not ironic, that's just me being rude. Duh.
no i think i can make it irony

you try to gain the moral high ground by looking down on some one who you say looks down on everyone else

irony *ding ding*
Refused Party Program
21-10-2004, 15:22
heh-the Labour party is supposed to be socialist, but blair is so far up bushes ass he's looking at being just as bad as the conservatives... (When you are as bad as them, ITS BAD!)

Th Labour Party had started abandoning Socialism as far back as the 60's. Possibly even earlier.
Togarmah
21-10-2004, 15:35
no i think i can make it irony

you try to gain the moral high ground by looking down on some one who you say looks down on everyone else

irony *ding ding*

Ah, but I wasn't looking down, I was pointing out the irony - which is different.

No irony there. Though it's ironic your tried to point out the irony of the whole situation.
Mr Basil Fawlty
21-10-2004, 16:27
She stated that Mrs. Bush did not have a "real" job and just stayed at home. .

Rich bitch Laura indeed never had a real job and a verry easy life compared to a working Mr Heinz.
Demented Hamsters
21-10-2004, 17:48
Surely this is a good reason for voting for Kerry?
Having Theresa around would be like another Dan Qualye. You'd never know what she was going to say next and put her foot in her mouth. :)
TheOneRule
21-10-2004, 17:52
Rich bitch Laura indeed never had a real job and a verry easy life compared to a working Mr Heinz.
Amazing how blinded by bigotry this statement is.
Mr Basil Fawlty
21-10-2004, 17:56
Amazing how blinded by bigotry this statement is.

Hmmmm I do smell Republican fascisme, genre best friend of Pinochet..Ow that stinks...
Demented Hamsters
21-10-2004, 17:57
Amazing how blinded by bigotry this statement is.
Amazing how blinded by the 'subtlety' of sarcasm you have been.
TheOneRule
21-10-2004, 18:02
Amazing how blinded by the 'subtlety' of sarcasm you have been.
Perhaps... perhaps because Im American I didn't catch the subtle sarcasm of "rich bitch". Perhaps I missed the intricacies of the subtle phrase "never had a real job".

Perhaps.
Demented Hamsters
21-10-2004, 18:03
Surely you've noticed that most of Basil's posts are sarcastic by now?