NationStates Jolt Archive

I keep downloading tracks that either play the first 15 seconds then skip back to the start over and over, or (in one particularly annoying case) have 5 seconds of scratchy static half way through the track. Is it just a coincidence that this is happening a lot, or is there something wrong that's making it occur?

It's called: record companies putting dummies on the internet

Don't

Download

Music


Problem solved.

Don't

Download

Music


Problem solved.
Oh my god, its genius. I see clearly now, the veils have been lifted from my eyes, I have found the light and, in this simple and incredibly condescending post I've just read, my problem has indeed been solved.

It's called: record companies putting dummies on the internet
I suppose they're not stupid enough to have left an easy way of picking out real tracks from dummy ones have they?

not enough people are using the P2P networking so the song you download are crappy and most of the time have virusis from the few people who are using kazaa

Oh my god, its genius. I see clearly now, the veils have been lifted from my eyes, I have found the light and, in this simple and incredibly condescending post I've just read, my problem has indeed been solved.
Dirty pirate.

Take a bath :p

Dirty pirate.

Take a bath :p
:rolleyes:

Don't download songs from the largest group of sharers--go from smaller groups or individual users, and go for song titles that look altered a bit or that have numbers in the titles, that look as though the file name was created when they ripped it from a cd. You'll still get some crap, but you'll have a better success rate.

I hope kazaa eats your computer.

I hope kazaa eats your computer.
You get the really big
L

You know what it stands for, right?

I suppose they're not stupid enough to have left an easy way of picking out real tracks from dummy ones have they?
Unfortunately, ther isn't. The tracks have the right file type and lenght, so there's no way of telling. Some songs are just really hard to get P2P

Don't download songs from the largest group of sharers--go from smaller groups or individual users, and go for song titles that look altered a bit or that have numbers in the titles, that look as though the file name was created when they ripped it from a cd. You'll still get some crap, but you'll have a better success rate.
Ok, I'll give that a shot.

Unfortunately, ther isn't. The tracks have the right file type and lenght, so there's no way of telling. Some songs are just really hard to get P2P
It was tricky enough already, before this BS started happening.

Bloody corporations. Just once I'd like to hear news about a corporation that does something good. Not even feed the homeless or stop global warming good, just things that didn't fuck regular people around.

I hope kazaa eats your computer.


Kazaa done ate one of mine, hence I no longer use kazaa. :headbang:

Don't use Kazaa. I recommend WinMX. (Damn you, Jolt, for not letting me edit.)

I say this because I had a bit of difficulty getting two songs off of Rammstein's newest album. I couldn't get the rest. With WinMX, I got perfect copies of the songs I didn't have.

I use Warez now. It's a lot like Kazaa but works a lot better

Get limewire, it's faster and more reliable. Plus, they tend to make it easy to guess which ones are dummies by the numbers of exact copies available of that file.
Usually, several copies indicate that it a dummy, more than 9 copies and it's probably ok.

Get Kazaa Lite Resurrection, you get the option to download a definition file to block bad ip's. It also comes with MP3 Shield, which scans your music folder for corrupted songs and deletes them.

Get limewire, it's faster and more reliable. Plus, they tend to make it easy to guess which ones are dummies by the numbers of exact copies available of that file.
Usually, several copies indicate that it a dummy, more than 9 copies and it's probably ok.more than 9?

more than 9?
If more than 9 people have that file.

Hmmm...I only have that problem when I try to download popular crap, like Franz Ferdinand, or Velvet Revolver (Money owns money...). But if you go for less known stuff, you shouldn't have any problems.

I hope you're using Kazaa Lite, and not that filthy spyware/adware infested Kazaa from Sharman.

I use Kazza Lite for individual songs but its been getting harder and harder.... i still havent found a good copy of Stiletto by Billy Joel, for the main stuff now i use Bit Torrent to download albums off of Supernova or wherever.... thats where i got my Complete Works of Led Zeppelin ;)

I use Limewire, and I've not once gotten a single dummy.

Limewire is good for songs and videos. KaZaa was better for downloading programs with. Haven't tried to dl any pics over Limewire yet.


No, not those kind, perv :p

I use Limewire, and I've not once gotten a single dummy.

Limewire is good for songs and videos. KaZaa was better for downloading programs with. Haven't tried to dl any pics over Limewire yet.


No, not those kind, perv :p
*eyebrow raised*

Easy solution:

Use BearShare.

I haven't found one corrupted/altered music song file since I stopped using Kazaa/Kazaalite.

It's it free, too.

I hope you're using Kazaa Lite, and not that filthy spyware/adware infested Kazaa from Sharman.

A mod encourageing illegal activity?
:p

Even kaaza lite allows poeple to use your computer.

*not funny*

The way I rationalize piracy is that if I like enough stuff by an artist, I buy their CD. Real artists trying to make it deserve the money for their work, after all. Record company bitches, on the other hand, can shove it while I listen to the one good song they put out at my leisure.

But if you go for less known stuff, you shouldn't have any problems.

This usually protects me well enough. Save for the few bands I listen to that get radio play, it's rare I run into any of these. What I do get occasionally is some shitty musician trying to get his shit out by calling it another song. I really hate that.

It seems like Kazaa Lite has gotten pretty useless lately, and I've been looking for a replacement. This thread'll be helpful...I'd heard about eDonkey, but that requires channels. Anyone know any?

Kazaa done ate one of mine, hence I no longer use kazaa. :headbang:

it wiped out my OS so i do the same

Easy solution:

Use BearShare.

I haven't found one corrupted/altered music song file since I stopped using Kazaa/Kazaalite.

It's it free, too.

I ditched that one a while ago for the early Kazaa...or was it Morpheus...anyway, is Bearshare worthwhile again?

*eyebrow raised*

I like to find art websites, then loot it all and save the stuff I like into my archives.

Sometimes, if I'm looking for something specific, I'd try KaZaa. Got a few nice pics out of it, got a few...uh...well, I got a few pics that everyone would EXPECT me to be looking for >_>

The source of the problem is how Kazaa checks to see files match up. Record companies put out a file with the errors that otherwise matches the checksum of the most popular version of the song, then as people download copies they all wind up matching the messed file, it spreads...

The only way to avoid it is to keep looking for copies or listen to less mainstream music, older tracks and more underground tracks are less likely to be messed.

As for Kazaa eating your computer, it will happen. Try to find Kazaa Lite K++, it's Kazaa minus all the spyware and crap, the company that makes Kazaa sued them though so good luck finding it.

You can also try some other programs like:

Soulseek
WinMX
eDonkey
LimeWire
Morpheus
BearShare


Or you can just pay for Napster.

I used to have Kazaa.. and all of the problems... but know with soulkeek... no problems, all the joy...
Heh, I should make a commertial ;) hahaha

I've just found a few duds. I'm not particularly bothered, because I download at night time while I'm sleeping. The duds generally have a song length of 1.01, no matter what size the file, or the album title has USSM followed by a pile of numbers. Delete 'em and you won't end up sharing them again either.

Don't use Kazaa. I recommend WinMX.


ALL HAIL MIGHTY WINMX (http://winmx.com)!!!!!

*BOWS IN SUPPLICATION*

I had Kaaza :headbang: ...used it all of exactly 5 minutes :mad: ...decided I didn't like it after it not only downloaded some kind of virus protection on my computer :sniper: , not to mention the little small spyware programs I had to kill after I removed it :mp5: , but it hogged up TONS of comp resources that I needed for other things. :gundge: So I got rid of it and me and my computer are in a much happier place. :fluffle:

*WinMX (http://winmx.com) user for 6 years and counting*

Emule is one that hasn't been mentioned and is great for rare stuff.

Otherwise, I use limewire or suprnova.

But the best way is to just buy the damn cd :p

ALL HAIL MIGHTY WINMX (http://winmx.com)!!!!!

*BOWS IN SUPPLICATION*

I had Kaaza :headbang: ...used it all of exactly 5 minutes :mad: ...decided I didn't like it after it not only downloaded some kind of virus protection on my computer :sniper: , not to mention the little small spyware programs I had to kill after I removed it :mp5: , but it hogged up TONS of comp resources that I needed for other things. :gundge: So I got rid of it and me and my computer are in a much happier place. :fluffle:

*WinMX (http://winmx.com) user for 6 years and counting*
Yup.....WIN MX does the trick. If you are using Kazza (which I did for awhile...shudder), check for a nasty file on your computer called "ncase".

Many backdoor agents I found with Kazaa including "gator".

Don't use gator (shudder).

Also try this "free" program to check for spyware:

http://www.lavasoft.de/news/product/info/

AdAware

Just do what a guy did here, go into the main public library, take a huge stack of cds and start downloading them onto a laptop. Err he got caught when they got a bit suspicious of him after an hour or so..

Just do what a guy did here, go into the main public library, take a huge stack of cds and start downloading them onto a laptop. Err he got caught when they got a bit suspicious of him after an hour or so..

:D

I just borrow them and make copies.

Strangely, libraries often have a lot of good stuff.

f00s. WinMX is almost as bad as Kazaa. Soulseek is teh win. :cool:

I use Shareaza - it connects to eDonkey/eMule, and smaller networks called Gnetella (sp?) 1 and 2. In my experience, it works really well - though if you're after something especially rare, it can take a bit longer.

I agree with what someone said before, however; if you're really keen on a particular song/artist, just get the CD ;)

He who uses Kazaa is a fool who has never downloaded before...

I think one of my friends uses a software called "Overlord" that has never let him down.

But I use Emule. Yes the risk of viruses is still high, but not if you are careful.

Personally I don't use P2P. You never know what you're downloading and the bandwidth is often below par. I would recommend a utility such as BitTorrent. It's not only safer, it's more reliable and there's a greater degree of variety. It also stores additional information unlike P2P. If it were possible, I'd prefer to use FTP instead. Alas, we can all dream

i dont download music illegally but some friends of mine who i constantly warn due to international copyright laws that are soon to be in full enforcement in australia do and they have had the best sucess with shareaza, its a dot com so check it out, but dont forget guys, it is illegal to download music without paying for it, 99cents really isnt that much for peace of mind that one day feds will know on your door

i dont download music illegally but some friends of mine who i constantly warn due to international copyright laws that are soon to be in full enforcement in australia do and they have had the best sucess with shareaza, its a dot com so check it out, but dont forget guys, it is illegal to download music without paying for it, 99cents really isnt that much for peace of mind that one day feds will know on your door

Do you honestly think they can stop every single person from downloading music?

Thats a lot of arrests.

Do you honestly think they can stop every single person from downloading music?

Thats a lot of arrests.

Very crowded jails. I'd be squeezed in there too... and heaven help us if they asked me to pass the soap... :(

I'm mostly using BitTorrents and a cracked version of eMule (So I can block uploading) to get all my stuff these days. Kazaa tends to give better speed though. (When you find a good source)

I'm mostly using BitTorrents and a cracked version of eMule (So I can block uploading) to get all my stuff these days. Kazaa tends to give better speed though. (When you find a good source)


Bloody leech! Share your files!

But the best way is to just buy the damn cd :p


That doesn't do you any good if you only like one song on the cd.

Why spend 10-20 bucks on a CD you're only going to listen to one song from??

There have been times I spend money on a CD from my favorite artists based on one or 2 songs and find out the rest of the CD is crap.

I look at it as saving money, getting my favorite songs, and don't have crap CD's hogging the shelves in my bedroom.

Though I still boot Kazaa Lite K++ occasionally, I've mostly moved to other sources.

Between eMule and ABC (Yet Another BitTorrent Client) or BitComet, I usually have no problem finding what I want.

That doesn't do you any good if you only like one song on the cd.

Why spend 10-20 bucks on a CD you're only going to listen to one song from??

There have been times I spend money on a CD from my favorite artists based on one or 2 songs and find out the rest of the CD is crap.

I look at it as saving money, getting my favorite songs, and don't have crap CD's hogging the shelves in my bedroom.


I used to agree whole heartedly with this statement …
Also didn’t feel like having a corporation rape me.

But what I have learned is the simple fact that if I like a single from the group I inevitably through buying the CD discover that the single was by far not the best song on there. I would have had no idea that the song ever existed.

Usually my interest is stirred by that single I agree but I have to listen to more then that , soo much missed back in my downloading days

http://www.wootang.net/communism.jpg

:p

http://www.wootang.net/communism.jpg

:p

:D I've seen that before.

I suppose they're not stupid enough to have left an easy way of picking out real tracks from dummy ones have they?
They're usually all exactly the same time. The real ones often are different times. I had that problem when trying to download a track, it kept giving me static. I noticed that most of them were like 2:17 so I found one like 2:30 and it was fine

you steal and want to know why the biggest peace of spyware on the internet causes problems. let me guess you're a liberal.

you steal and want to know why the biggest peace of spyware on the internet causes problems. let me guess you're a liberal.

You don't download music? If not, why not?

You don't download music? If not, why not?
because his religion says music is praise to the devil

because his religion says music is praise to the devil
I would usually argue but he deserves it for that liberal comment :-P

because his religion says music is praise to the devil

I am asking why she/he is particularly against downloading...if they are.

I would usually argue but he deserves it for that liberal comment :-P
i could actually be right, depends which religion he is, there are a couple

I don't download popular music.

I usually just download weird stuff, and TV shows from Japan. Sure, I could pay 45 dollars for 2 22 minute long episodes on DVD, but I don't feel like it.

My problem is different from yours. I get great quality files, but, but, the little punks on KaZaa don't know how to share :(

It took 3 days to download a file--that had only 3kb remaining to go. There were maybe 10 people in a row it would try to connect to, and none of them would let me?! I even messaged one who blamed it on her university. Yea right--just let me download the 3kb, I don't care if it's at .01 per second...

Kazaa lite was not bad, but now i use Soulseek. it's the best these days....

Not half as good as Audiogalaxy used to be, but at this moment, there is nothing better..

You can also try some other programs like:

Soulseek
WinMX
eDonkey
LimeWire
Morpheus
BearShare
.
Im looking for the new clip "cinnamon Girl" from Prince...what programm should I try first

Get Kazaa Lite Resurrection, you get the option to download a definition file to block bad ip's. It also comes with MP3 Shield, which scans your music folder for corrupted songs and deletes them.Looks good...just Dowloaded and Instaled...

Problem is even if it look like Great Software...It cant get me the Clip im looking for...

Also try this "free" program to check for spyware:

http://www.lavasoft.de/news/product/info/

AdAware

Adaware has become crippleware. They make you pay money to have it work to its fullest now. Pity cause it was a nice little program. At any rate, the king is dead, long live Spybot Search and Destroy. (http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html)

Oh and yea, dont use Kazaa. In fact I wouldn't recommend using any of those now without properly proxying your connection. RIAA is stepping up litigation.

If you aren't scared of using slightly complex programs, you'll get the best returns off of Bit torrent, and IRC. IRC especially, but its hard to use and it goes pretty quickly from "grey area illegal" to "you're going to get sent to a pound-me-in-the-ass federal prison illegal". With hacked bots distributing on mass scale and stuff, getting implicated in that would suck.

If you aren't scared of using slightly complex programs, you'll get the best returns off of Bit torrent, and IRC. IRC especially, but its hard to use and it goes pretty quickly from "grey area illegal" to "you're going to get sent to a pound-me-in-the-ass federal prison illegal". With hacked bots distributing on mass scale and stuff, getting implicated in that would suck.
A pound me in the ass federal prison! God, I loved Officespace.

Don't

Download

Music


Problem solved.


No you capitalist pig.

use limewire or use winmx or use bittorrents.

No you capitalist pig.

use limewire or use winmx or use bittorrents.
So neither of those use spyware or adware? I have to admit, I've been jonesing to download again, but I had a serious infection a couple of months ago and had to reformat my computer. I don't want to do that again.

So neither of those use spyware or adware? I have to admit, I've been jonesing to download again, but I had a serious infection a couple of months ago and had to reformat my computer. I don't want to do that again.

Below I have outlined a comprehensive plan to protect your computer while using peer to peer services.

1. Stop downloading viruses. When your copy of rage against the machine is 4 kilobytes and has a .exe file extension you may want to delay running it until you take the ten seconds to virus scan it. I know this is unacceptable in the age of broadband speed, but when I was a boy (back in the yesteryear of 1999) we took 14 minutes to download one song and we were damn happy for it too.

2. Stop sharing your tax returns, social security number ect.. This has always baffled me since most programs by default only share their own specific folder. Never the less, some miscreants manage to put their personal information unprotected on their hard drive and then tell Kazaa to share it with other people.

3. Random users dont need or want your IP. If you actually fall for this I honestly hope you get sued.

4. Generally before doing anything think about it for about five seconds. If its probable that it will end up with your computer infected, taken by the government, or on fire, you should probably just not do it.

That was a little cruel, but seriously. I have never once gotten a virus on my computer, and I rarely have any spyware but cookies. It's incredibly easy to both use services and keep your PC clean and efficient.

Im looking for the new clip "cinnamon Girl" from Prince



I got it if you want it...catch me on Yahoo and I'll send it.

Use Warez and/or WinMX. And if you can get into bit torrent downloading, then try Azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/) (Suprnova (http://www.suprnova.org/) is an excellent site for torrents).

Dirty pirate.

Take a bath :p

Or a shower! :fluffle:

Kazaa is such crap. That's my two cents. I haven't used it in years.

Adaware has become crippleware. They make you pay money to have it work to its fullest now. Pity cause it was a nice little program. At any rate, the king is dead, long live Spybot Search and Destroy. (http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html)

Oh and yea, dont use Kazaa. In fact I wouldn't recommend using any of those now without properly proxying your connection. RIAA is stepping up litigation.
Yes, Spybot is better than AdAware, but I have them both, and they each catch things the other doesn't. At least Spybot is totally free, though.

Bit Torrent can solve the problem of paying for AdAware though... And if you get your torrents from Suprnova.org, they're verified virus-and-crap-free.