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Presidential campaign thread (To elect NS General President)

The Imperial Navy
20-10-2004, 14:30
From the thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7281056

This thread is for General President election candidates to put forward their case in a series of paragraphs and explain why they should be president. The public are free to make any opinions on the campaigns, and the nominees may choose to answer whatever they wish.

Candidates:
Legless Pirates-Anarchist
Zwange-Evil World Empire
Kanabia-democratic libertarian communist
Torching Witches-"Building Bridges" Party
Neo Latium-The Logic Party
Soviet Democracy-democrat
Stephistan/Myrth-Mod Party
The Phoenix Milita-Evil World Empire
Iztatepopotla - Half minded.

Begin!

EDIT: I need to note, that NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED. but you are permitted to choose a capable Vice-President to run with you.
Legless Pirates
20-10-2004, 14:35
Hello, I am a Legless Pirate.

I run for NS Forum President and all I want is abolishment of rules, regulations, limits and the likes. Yes, I am an Anarchist. That is not a bad thing.

Vote me and you'll be able to post WHATEVER you want. No more mods nagging at you.

Freedom is not fearsome. Embrace it.

Thank you for your time


Vote Legless Pirates for NS Forum President



Bwa ha ha, good luck with that!!! ~Unfree People
The Imperial Navy
20-10-2004, 14:40
Thats a pretty good post Legless Pirates!
Legless Pirates
20-10-2004, 14:41
Thats a pretty good post Legless Pirates!
Why of course. That's why you should all vote for me in the Presidential Election
Torching Witches
20-10-2004, 14:44
Hello, I'm Colin, Supreme Spritual Leader of the Holy Empire of Torching Witches. But you can just call me Colin.

*grins*

*points*

I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, here's just another candidate who's going to go around, kissing babies. Well, *kisses baby*, I'm different to all the others. Because my aim in this campaign is to turn this forum into festering, corrupted witch-hunt machine, and that's not all.

*turns to other camera*

*grins*

*points*

I'm going to make witch-burning our the first official Nationstates sport, and you can all join me for tea every Thursday afternoon. We'll have cake and biscuits and, if you bring a few witches along, we can follow that with a bonfire and firework display.

Because if I'm elected NS President - I mean to say...

*grins*

*points*

...when I'm elected NS President, I'll be here to make sure you're all alright, to offer a friendly hand where it's needed.

That, and to burn more witches.

*grins*

Vote Torching Witches.
Vote "Building Bridges" Party.

*points*
Soviet Democracy
20-10-2004, 14:47
Hello, I am a Legless Pirate.

I run for NS Forum President and all I want is abolishment of rules, regulations, limits and the likes. Yes, I am an Anarchist. That is not a bad thing.

Vote me and you'll be able to post WHATEVER you want. No more mods nagging at you.

Freedom is not fearsome. Embrace it.

Thank you for your time


Vote Legless Pirates for NS Forum President

Even though my party has not yet outlined our platform, I will still respond to this.

Yes, we must embrace freedom and should not risk letting it diminish to nothing. But that is not what any of the other major candidates are proposing. You are acting as if the moderators are saying you cannot say anything. That is indeed incorrect. They are very liberal when it comes to what you can say. Want proof? Fuck. See. Fuck. I can say it. Are they going to warn me because I said such a thing? No. The moderators are there to keep a sense of calm in the forums. They are there to protect the common NationStates poster from flames, spam, and other vile posting habits. They are there to keep this place fun for the average person and not serve to small group of individuals out to ruin a good humored thread with a random flame or consistant spam.

The fact is, we do need a set of rules against such things to protect the people of NationStates from a small group of people that care only for themselves. NationStaters also need freedom to say what they want. We need to protect the NationStaters Civil Rights by keeping spammers and flamers out. Complete lack of rules would not due this and lead to an unpleasant environment. I know I personally would not want some 15 year old saying "Blah" 20 times in a row on as many threads as he can. But under Legless's policy, that would be permitted.

The average person in NationStates would not be affected at all by rules. It is only those who are out to create pleasure for themselves at the cost of others that would be affected.
The Imperial Navy
20-10-2004, 14:47
more good work.
Iztatepopotla
20-10-2004, 14:53
Hi,

I'm the candidate for the half-minded party. If elected president I intend to do something, I just haven't decided what. But I'm sure it will involve Doritos.

Or not.

The other candidates promise to make this an anarchist paradise, or a never ending witch-hunt, but try as they might they can't deny they have plans, ambiyions and that's not what this forum needs.

What we need is the kind of undecisive action that I bring. The possibility of doing this or that, whatever that may be. Or this.

Er... yes... so, if you agree that something must be done but you are not sure what, then vote for the half-minded party. Iztatepopotla for president.
Legless Pirates
20-10-2004, 14:56
My campaign is about making the people on this forum better.

We'll have kids who find it funny to post "Blah" 20 times. So what? Do what you always do. Ignore them. Surely the people are better than that.

And it's a forum for Christ's Sake! Everything is to be taken lightly. I do. It works/worked for me. Even when I got insulted on other forums. Just think of a cunning reply or ignore them. Why do you need rules? These things regulate theirselves. People will recognise the ones trying to "spoil their fun" and act accordingly.

There is no need for mods
Soviet Democracy
20-10-2004, 15:07
Edit: I am now running for President.

Secondly, maybe you could put the political platform in your first post so everyone can see it when they first join? And edit it as the candidate sees fit.

And to Legless. Even so, not everyone has your tolerance level. I personally am annoyed by people who do nothing but flame and think their arguements are valid. They are annoying, because they consistantly flame. Those people should be warned and there be a set of firm rules (not extremely strict, more relaxed than strict) that would control things that like that deter people from coming to the forums. It makes the forums a lot more enjoyable of a place, rather than having to sift through spam and flames or simply ignoring it.
Legless Pirates
20-10-2004, 15:10
So you admit the problem lies with you, and not with spammers/flamers
Soviet Democracy
20-10-2004, 15:13
So you admit the problem lies with you, and not with spammers/flamers

No I do not. I am saying that not everyone is like you. I am saying that you are a special case, when I believe that most people are annoyed by spammers. They slow down the forums, annoy anyone who is trying to talk to someone in a civil way, and they never go away because they can continually filter in in the form of a new person.

Flamers are the same way. They bring a childish nature to the forums that is not needed nor wanted. No matter what you say to them, they only make you angrier. So should we ignore them? No. We should show them that they are not wanted with some rules against such vile acts against the enjoyment of my fellow NationStaters. We should not simply say "Ignore them."
Kanabia
20-10-2004, 15:19
Hello there.

I am Kanabia, and I represent the Democratic Libertarian Communist party...or something.

I would like your vote.

In return, I will bestow upon you peace, love and psychadelic music. In addition to that, everyones post count and creation date will automatically be reset to 1000 and the creation date to October 2004, to ensure that we are all truly equal.
The Imperial Navy
20-10-2004, 15:25
Good. this thread is running very smoothly, with minor debate.
New Granada
20-10-2004, 18:09
Hello, I am a Legless Pirate.

I run for NS Forum President and all I want is abolishment of rules, regulations, limits and the likes. Yes, I am an Anarchist. That is not a bad thing.

Vote me and you'll be able to post WHATEVER you want. No more mods nagging at you.

Freedom is not fearsome. Embrace it.

Thank you for your time


Vote Legless Pirates for NS Forum President


That is free license to spam incessantly for hours and hours and hours.
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 10:52
Bump
Kleptonis
21-10-2004, 11:33
That is free license to spam incessantly for hours and hours and hours.
Exactly. Vote Legless Pirates because spam pwns.
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 11:39
It seems Legless'es campaign is paying off.
Kanabia
21-10-2004, 11:42
Well, the DLC allows spam too! And an equal post count! And peace and stuff.

Vote Kanabia - I'll deliver more.
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 12:44
Boing
Torching Witches
21-10-2004, 13:34
Boing

Bouncy-bouncy-boing!

Only Torching witches will offer you the opportunity to set light to evil magic-doers whilst riding pogo-sticks!!

Vote Torching Witches.
Vote "Building Bridges" Party.

Because it takes a lot of practice.
Terra - Domina
21-10-2004, 14:03
Terra - Domina

running on behalf of the marijuana party

thank you
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 14:04
Terra - Domina

running on behalf of the marijuana party

thank you
sorry! nominations were closed yesterday.
Kanabia
21-10-2004, 14:06
And besides, I'm technically the marijuana party.

Vote Kanabia!
Terra - Domina
21-10-2004, 14:07
sorry! nominations were closed yesterday.


lol, jesus that makes it even funnier
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2004, 14:08
lol, jesus that makes it even funnier

You can however choose to support one of the current candidates...

(I'm pretty sure this will degrade into total satire.)
Torching Witches
21-10-2004, 16:27
You can however choose to support one of the current candidates...

(I'm pretty sure this will degrade into total satire.)

"will degrade"?
Kanabia
22-10-2004, 04:12
We have a lower voter turnout than the USA in here...
Trotterstan
22-10-2004, 04:21
Well due to solid campaigning I was all set to vote for Legless Pirates but Kanabia's pro Marijuana stance has swayed me (something is making me sway anyway).

Vote Kanabia for Prez !
Colodia
22-10-2004, 04:52
Colodia, of the Imperialist Party...

I stand for manipulating alliances and the power of Presidency to easily find economic loopholes to trigger World War 3 so that I can conquer the world. In addition, I will fund our education system.


Yeah...
BastardSword
22-10-2004, 05:12
Colodia, of the Imperialist Party...

I stand for manipulating alliances and the power of Presidency to easily find economic loopholes to trigger World War 3 so that I can conquer the world. In addition, I will fund our education system.


Yeah...
Um all the candidates are already chosen, sorry man.

Interesting choices:
But hmm I'm undecided a little. Soviet Democracy sounds good but he gives up too easy...
Stephistan is a masterdebater *snicker snicker* but she's canadian... although many good things have come from Canada like Fizixman(the batman of physics), Jim Carrey, and stuff.
She does seem fair... but still unsure.

Neo Latium is logical and I like logic... but do I want a logical president? Hard to say...

I don't like Legless Pirates no rules idea because the rule that there is no rule is a paradox and nonsense.

Kanabia is a communist and that is weird. Communist are usually anti-religion (communist-like societies usually are that I've seen) and that issue is important. So I'd have to see the debates first :)

Torching Witches: And you can't burn a witch you have to throw them in water: if they float they are a witch and if they don't surface after so many minutes (the Puritan method I heard but I'm unsure how many minutes) then they are clean. And they are free to surface and then you apologize. Unless the person is good at holdingbreathe or using a willow weed to breathe it might kill non-witches though.
But I'm just correcting you, I'm against burning witches in general.

Myrth: I largely know little about him... Who is he and what does he want?

Will there be debates?
Kanabia
22-10-2004, 10:18
Kanabia is a communist and that is weird.

Uh, thanks. :p


Communist are usually anti-religion (communist-like societies usually are that I've seen) and that issue is important. So I'd have to see the debates first :)

Marxist dictatorships have been anti-religion in the past, however this is the Democratic Libertarian Communist party!

I don't consider myself an atheist, though I don't follow any particular religion. I believe it is a personal matter and that no-one should limit freedom of religion.

However, I also believe that religion should not force the hand of society. If restrictions are written in the main text of the religion (Eg. the infamous eating shellfish is a sin) then it should be the believers choice on whether or not to follow these or how to interpret them. Mixing the church with government is a bad idea for this very reason, as laws that apply to anyone can be created with a religious agenda in mind. Make sense?

I'm up for a debate on religious views :p
The Imperial Navy
23-10-2004, 17:13
I will be unavaliable to work this week due to work responsibilities caused by Half term for schools (The kids are flowing into the store and they need me to help with overtime...).

Keep the debate up, and next week the official debates will begin, followed by elections shortly after.
Refused Party Program
23-10-2004, 17:14
Who will offer me £1,000 for my vote? Anyone?
Kanabia
23-10-2004, 17:53
Sure, monopoly money OK?
Refused Party Program
23-10-2004, 18:26
Sure, monopoly money OK?

No.
Fat Rich People
23-10-2004, 18:40
I'd vote Stephistan, but I have yet to see her appear to begin her campaign! So my vote right now is going to Torching Witches.

It gets cold up here in the winter v_v Fire is warm. Warm is good.
Kanabia
23-10-2004, 18:43
No.

How about an IOU? Or I could sign a book? I am at your service...i'll do the chicken dance if you want?

(I feel like Old Gil from the Simpsons)

VOTE KANABIA!
Refused Party Program
23-10-2004, 18:58
I'd vote Stephistan, but I have yet to see her appear to begin her campaign! So my vote right now is going to Torching Witches.

It gets cold up here in the winter v_v Fire is warm. Warm is good.

Dear prospective voter,
The candidate known as "Torching Witches" recently did espouse that Margaret Thatcher was "the UK's last decent leader". I hope you will consider this severe character flaw before deciding your vote.
Regards,
Refused Party Program.

How about an IOU? Or I could sign a book? I am at your service...i'll do the chicken dance if you want?


I'll think about it.
The Island of Rose
23-10-2004, 19:00
(Starts the smear campaign)

Stephistan is Canadian, do you really want to vote for her?

Kanabia is a flip-flopper, he is weak willed. Do you want a weak man in power?

Legless's name sucks. Plus the spam will kill the server.

Neo Latium- logic sucks.

Soviet Democracy: His name is unoriginal and we have enough Democrats as it is.

Zwange, The Phoenix Militia, Colodia: IT IS UNORIGINAL, they will kill you and have se with your wives and sisters!

Torching Witches "Building Bridges": The General deficit will be so high we'll be on the street. We cannot waste time with burning bridges.

Iztatepoplotea: Can you REALLY pronounce his name?

Vote Myrth. He's better then this.

(We are in no way related to the Myrthian Campaign, we just like him)
The Imperial Navy
27-10-2004, 13:02
*Boing*
Stephistan
27-10-2004, 13:47
Sorry I've been away busy doing moderator work, the type of things that are tangible on Nationstates, which is what this election is really all about, Nationstates.

In case people have not heard, yes, I am running for President of Nationstates. Myrth and I have joined forces and Myrth is my running mate for Vice President. You only need to ask yourself these questions. Out of all the people in this list of candidates who do you really believe can come through on their promises? The answer is obvious, Myrth and I. Do you really believe a vote for some one offering you free money will ever send it? Do you really believe some one offering you free weed will ever send it? Do you really believe any one saying they can change the rules who isn't even part of the moderation staff can deliver? Of course you don't.

I think it's an insult to all the intelligent NS players to even make such promises, these other candidates must take you for fools! I do not. If you come to me with a problem on Nationstates I can actually do some thing about it. So can Myrth. We are also backed up by the whole moderation staff.

You can live in la la land and listen to these empty promises that offer no hope of ever being realized or you can vote for the people who have the ear of [violet] and Salusa and Reppy..etc.. You can elect a lame duck president, or you can elect Myrth and I who have a record to run on. We get results. We are strong on Nationstates and respected by the vast majority of the Nationstates community.

So I say to you, is there even really any other choice?

Vote for the Stephistan/Myrth ticket. Get real results for real problems!

Gosh Bless Nationstates!
The Imperial Navy
27-10-2004, 13:53
Ah. If you and myrth are running together, i'd better edit the candidate list.
Kanabia
27-10-2004, 14:25
Kanabia is a flip-flopper, he is weak willed. Do you want a weak man in power?


I am not weak willed!!! Traitor. Pfeh. I thought I could count on you at least to be on my side.

Well.

I VOW to do everything I can to get you forum banned for a month when i'm elected. And I'll stand by that. :D

Do you really believe some one offering you free weed will ever send it?

Sure I will!

(Of course, I said "weed", not the type of "weed". Would you like me to send you some thistle?)


Do you really believe any one saying they can change the rules who isn't even part of the moderation staff can deliver? Of course you don't.

There you go!

Do you want to elect someone who admits dictatorial powers? Do you want to at least try to make a difference people? huh? HUH?
Stephistan
27-10-2004, 14:29
There you go!

Do you want to elect someone who admits dictatorial powers? Do you want to at least try to make a difference people? huh? HUH?

Then I ask, what difference can you REALLY make? Talk is cheap when the story is good.. what do you bring to the table?
Sussudio
27-10-2004, 17:34
Our mods kick ass, thats why I cast my vote for the Stephistan/Myrth ticket.

And since I am by far the most influential and most intelligent person on NationStates, we should close the polls, finish this election, and commence with the inauguration. :D
Myrth
27-10-2004, 20:58
A vote for Stephistan/Myrth is a vote for prosperity and stability!







http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/b/b9/177px-Stalin.jpg
Uncle Joe Stalin
Mod Party Campaign Manager
The Imperial Navy
28-10-2004, 11:28
thats not very reassureing....
The Imperial Navy
28-10-2004, 11:41
Now listen up Maggots! The election will take place on Tuesday, followed by the results on wednesday, and then the inaugeration will take place on thursday after the winner has had time to celebrate.
Spoffin
28-10-2004, 11:45
My name is Spoffin, and I am running for NS president for the Progressive Traditionalist party.

As a party, we are often accused of being indecisive. Is that I fair criticism? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. I don't really think its for me to decide. I think I'm no the side of the people who would say that really, its a states issue. Although, the federal government does have the power to intervene. But then, really, should we be poking our noses into what people think in the forum? Maybe it'd help if we had a constitutional amendment to say exactly what we want. But then again, my deputy president disagrees with me. I guess thats cos he's a Radical Pragmatist socially, but a Progressive Traditionalist on the economy.
The Imperial Navy
28-10-2004, 11:47
I'm sorry spoffin, but nominations are closed... but you can try to run with somone as a vice president if you ask them.
Kanabia
28-10-2004, 12:38
Then I ask, what difference can you REALLY make? Talk is cheap when the story is good.. what do you bring to the table?

Well I ask you, what difference is voting for your fascist mod party going to make? NOTHING!

People, see through this sham!

If you vote for me, you at least have a chance to make your opinions heard! I implore you to at least make this a close election! Make the Stalinists take notice!

:D (This is fun)
Bozzy
28-10-2004, 14:06
Until someone promises that they can cure paralysis I am saving my vote....
Legless Pirates
28-10-2004, 14:11
I promise I can... can I have your vote now?
Legless Pirates
28-10-2004, 14:23
Anyway.

Sick of rules and people telling you what to do?

Vote Legless Pirates for Forum President
Kinda Sensible people
28-10-2004, 14:44
Now listen up Maggots! The election will take place on Tuesday, followed by the results on wednesday, and then the inaugeration will take place on thursday after the winner has had time to celebrate.


Which means whoever we nominante will be sworn into office with a hangover... Great...
Kanabia
28-10-2004, 16:19
Anyway.

Sick of rules and people telling you what to do?

Vote Legless Pirates for Forum President

(*Psst*...I think it would be best if we formed a coalition government...whoever gets more votes gets to be pres, and the other is vice-pres. Deal?)
Kanabia
28-10-2004, 16:20
Which means whoever we nominante will be sworn into office with a hangover... Great...

Hey, that changes nothing on this end :D
Ravea
28-10-2004, 16:37
My vote is either going to Iztatepoplotea or Neo Latium, I havn't decided which yet.
MunkeBrain
28-10-2004, 16:37
From the thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7281056

This thread is for General President election candidates to put forward their case in a series of paragraphs and explain why they should be president. The public are free to make any opinions on the campaigns, and the nominees may choose to answer whatever they wish.

Candidates:
Legless Pirates-Anarchist
Zwange-Evil World Empire
Kanabia-democratic libertarian communist
Torching Witches-"Building Bridges" Party
Neo Latium-The Logic Party
Soviet Democracy-democrat
Stephistan/Myrth-Mod Party
The Phoenix Milita-Evil World Empire
Iztatepopotla - Half minded.

Begin!

EDIT: I need to note, that NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED. but you are permitted to choose a capable Vice-President to run with you.
Just like any good European elections, you have 10 candidates with not a difference among them.
Bozzy
28-10-2004, 16:39
I promise I can... can I have your vote now?
I'll only believe you if you can get Reeves wife tio endorse you.
Soviet Democracy
28-10-2004, 16:54
But hmm I'm undecided a little. Soviet Democracy sounds good but he gives up too easy...

Gives up too easy? I do not see the point in debating the same thing over and over when it is the same thing being said. I also have a life outside of NationStates.
Kanabia
28-10-2004, 16:57
Just like any good European elections, you have 10 candidates with not a difference among them.

Yeah, well, 10 is better than 2. Or wait, theres the other guy that noone votes for. My bad.
Soviet Democracy
28-10-2004, 17:00
With Stephistan's selection for Vice President, I am unsure if I should just run on my own or not.

I think I will.

So please, vote for me. I will not put forth rules that will restrict your freedoms, only those that protect you from the filth that is put out by flamers and spammers.

Though I am not a mod, I do believe I am respectable and the mods will consider listening to me.

And my name? I have been on NationStates for a year and a half now. Who cares what my name is, I was here when Parra and Beeker were the post whores of the time.

Please, vote for common sense and responsibility. Vote Soviet Democracy.

(I am not a Communist.)
Kanabia
28-10-2004, 17:07
Join my coalition!!!! :)
The Imperial Navy
02-11-2004, 10:34
Polling is about to open! the thread will be up in a moment.
The Imperial Navy
02-11-2004, 12:09
ok heres a link to the voting thread for late arrivals...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=370279