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To qualify, the band must have been formed no earlier than 1994.

I'm nominating Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf.

tool
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Damn that qualification! Live's Throwing Copper is my fave album of the 90's- released in 1995, although the band was around before then... (And don't worry all, I'm not a fan of new Live- their last two albums have been a little cringeworthy...)

Therefore I'd have to say Origin of Symmetry by Muse.

I would have said "Jawbreaker-Unfun", but that clearly violates the rule. Therefore, the best band is Jets to Brazil, and the best album is Orange Rhyming Dictionary. Hands down.

Fuck your qualification!

REFUSED PARTY PROGRAM!!!

Pshhh. I got deated for flaming a mod; don't think I won't flame your lazy, overbearing, cock-taking ass back to third grade where we learned how to type, douche-bag.

LITHUANIGHANIKHAZISTAN!!!!111!!!1one!!!!eleven

Okay, for people who don't/won't get it:

Refused - The Shape Of Punk To Come

LITHUANIGHANIKHAZISTAN!!!!111!!!1one!!!!eleven
eleven... ROFL

i most definetly have to say

stabbing westward with wither blister burn and peal

not only is it a great album but no one has ever heard of it

Textures (don't know the album name)

To qualify, the band must have been formed no earlier than 1994.

I'm nominating Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf.

thats a good album.

"clone radio, we sound more like everyone else, than anyone else"

Weezer's Blue Album....it was released in 1994.

Do they count though, as they've released subsequent albums since?

I would have said "Jawbreaker-Unfun", but that clearly violates the rule. Therefore, the best band is Jets to Brazil, and the best album is Orange Rhyming Dictionary. Hands down.

I second.

Get Born - Jet

6 ARIA awards from the Austalian Music Industry this year.

Get Born - Jet

6 ARIA awards from the Austalian Music Industry this year.
Sweet! They rock!

still: not THE best I think..

My personal list, according to the conditions:

Let's Face It - Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Love This City - The Whitlams
Paging Mr Strike - Machine Gun Fellatio
Reflector - Killing Heidi
Bitter and Twisted - Area-7
Wonderwall - Oasis
Get Born - Jet
10,000 Watt RSL - Midnight Oil
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds

i most definetly have to say

stabbing westward with wither blister burn and peal

not only is it a great album but no one has ever heard of it

Not only have I heard of them and seen them but they suck. ;)

My personal list, according to the conditions:

Let's Face It - Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Love This City - The Whitlams
Paging Mr Strike - Machine Gun Fellatio
Reflector - Killing Heidi
Bitter and Twisted - Area-7
Wonderwall - Oasis
Get Born - Jet
10,000 Watt RSL - Midnight Oil
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds

I don't think Oasis have an album called "Wonderwall" and Jet?! WTF?

All you people saying Jet "Get Born" just need to shut the hell up. You might as well listen to a jukebox. Every song is a near copy of a classic rock hit. That first single was catchy as hell, but they ripped off the bassline, drum rhythm and guitar riff from Iggy Pop's "Lust for Life", and Cold Hard Bitch is indistinguishable from anything off of ACDC's later crap albums.

The only reason they are so loved is a product of the vapid shit played on the radio these days.

With that said:

In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel
Chutes Too Narrow - The Shins
OK Computer - Radiohead
Moon and Antarctica - Modest Mouse
Beck - Odelay

All you people saying Jet "Get Born" just need to shut the hell up. You might as well listen to a jukebox. Every song is a near copy of a classic rock hit. That first single was catchy as hell, but they ripped off the bassline, drum rhythm and guitar riff from Iggy Pop's "Lust for Life", and Cold Hard Bitch is indistinguishable from anything off of ACDC's later crap albums.

The only reason they are so loved is a product of the vapid shit played on the radio these days.

With that said:

In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel
Chutes Too Narrow - The Shins
OK Computer - Radiohead
Moon and Antarctica - Modest Mouse
Beck - Odelay

You can't call someone out on Jet and then reply with The Shins! Are you crazy?!

Two of the best albums of the last 10 years both came out at the end of last year:

Radiohead: Hail to the Thief

and

The Darkness: Permission to Land

The Darkness: Permission to Land

ROFL.

That was a good one!

Sum 41 - All Killer No Filler :)

Sum 41 - All Killer No Filler :)

Wh...f...are you...are you doing this on purpose?

You want my head to explode?

Some people just have no taste... what can a man do?

Neon Ballroom - Silverchair

Some people just have no taste... what can a man do?

Neon Ballroom - Silverchair

*head explodes*

Sorry, didn't know you were one of them

You goddamn right I can reply with The Shins

Compare:

Cold hard bitch
Just a kiss on the lips
And I was on my knees
I'm waiting, give me
Cold hard bitch
She was shakin' her hips
That's all that I need

Extremely simple lyrics played over repetitive power chords, great if your Andrew W.K. or have an iq of around 95

Now the Shins:

Saint Simon:
Mercy’s eyes are blue/ and when she places them in front of you/ nothing holds a roman candle to the solemn warmth you feel

Over one of the most gorgeous string arrangements ever recorded.

You can keep your clunky power chords and 8th grade lyrics, give me some real songwriting.

Yay for Sum 41,

heres mine

recently

The Killers---Hot fuss

and less recently

Air----Moon Safari
Badly Drawn Boy---Bewilderbeest
White Stripes---Elephant
Daft Punk---Discovery (first 4 tracks only)
Prodigy---fat of the land (yes they formed over 10 years ago, but so did Oasis and others mentioned !)

the winner...anything by stone roses or instone's belly

You goddamn right I can reply with The Shins

Compare:

Cold hard bitch
Just a kiss on the lips
And I was on my knees
I'm waiting, give me
Cold hard bitch
She was shakin' her hips
That's all that I need

Extremely simple lyrics played over repetitive power chords, great if your Andrew W.K. or have an iq of around 95

Now the Shins:

Saint Simon:
Mercy’s eyes are blue/ and when she places them in front of you/ nothing holds a roman candle to the solemn warmth you feel

Over one of the most gorgeous string arrangements ever recorded.

You can keep your clunky power chords and 8th grade lyrics, give me some real songwriting.
Worked for AC/DC...

Best bands? Hmmm KoRn, Disturbed, jerk, The Offspring yadda yadda..

Best Album:
Issues by KoRn

:)

You goddamn right I can reply with The Shins

Compare:

Cold hard bitch
Just a kiss on the lips
And I was on my knees
I'm waiting, give me
Cold hard bitch
She was shakin' her hips
That's all that I need

Extremely simple lyrics played over repetitive power chords, great if your Andrew W.K. or have an iq of around 95

Now the Shins:

Saint Simon:
Mercy’s eyes are blue/ and when she places them in front of you/ nothing holds a roman candle to the solemn warmth you feel

Over one of the most gorgeous string arrangements ever recorded.

You can keep your clunky power chords and 8th grade lyrics, give me some real songwriting.

I agree with you on Jet sucking hard. I don't think The Shins are any better, and I'm not just talking about the lyrics.

Best bands? Hmmm KoRn, Disturbed, jerk, The Offspring yadda yadda..

Best Album:
Issues by KoRn

:)
*WARNING* Kid on the forum. Watch your mouths everyone *END WARNING*

T.M. Revolution :) I'm okay with Jet, Bowling For Soup, etc too. :)

For J-pop, you might want to check out Tamaki Nami. She's young (16!), got a great voice, and well...she does songs for Gundam. :D Yay.

Have you guys heard Oh, Inverted World or Chutes Too Narrow? The best pop since the Kinks.

And can you seriously listen to an ACDC greatest hits? I like Back in Black and Highway to Hell, but I would wager that the other 15 versions of the same song on that CD would be intolerable.

*WARNING* Kid on the forum. Watch your mouths everyone *END WARNING*

:sniper:
Meh.

And I don't know anybody on NS who can knock a band who wrote a song about the rise and fall of communism and the subsequent democracy in soviet russia.

And I don't know anybody on NS who can knock a band who wrote a song about the rise and fall of communism and the subsequent democracy in soviet russia.

It doesn't matter what the subject is. If the song sucks, the song sucks.

It doesn't matter what the subject is. If the song sucks, the song sucks.

He's got a point :p

Hmm, what I think of some of the albums mentioned.

Tool - Lateralus - Good album, except the band is older than 10 years.
Muse - Origin of Symmetry - Good album.
Weezer - The blue album - I like some Weezer songs, but haven't heard this album.
Jet - Get Born - Eh, its OK I guess.
Radiohead - OK Computer - The band is older than 10 years, but that's definitely an excellent album.
The Darkness - Permission to Land - Eh, not a fan.
Sum 41 - All Killer No Filler - Eww.
Silverchair - Neon Ballroom - Not bad. I liked Freak Show better, but that's me. Except, Daniel Johns shits me. So that was off the record :p
Korn - Issues - Older than 10 years, and a pretty shitty album. Anything after Life is Peachy sucks. A shame, really.

The reason I had this idea was 'cause I got into an argument with someone who thinks that all music since '94 sucks. And it got me thinking. But there is a lot out there, you just have to look for it a bit :)

Battle of LA - Rage Against the Machine

Hmm, what I think of some of the albums mentioned.

Tool - Lateralus - Good album, except the band is older than 10 years.
Muse - Origin of Symmetry - Good album.
Weezer - The blue album - I like some Weezer songs, but haven't heard this album.
Jet - Get Born - Eh, its OK I guess.
Radiohead - OK Computer - The band is older than 10 years, but that's definitely an excellent album.
The Darkness - Permission to Land - Eh, not a fan.
Sum 41 - All Killer No Filler - Eww.
Silverchair - Neon Ballroom - Not bad. I liked Freak Show better, but that's me. Except, Daniel Johns shits me. So that was off the record :p
Korn - Issues - Older than 10 years, and a pretty shitty album. Anything after Life is Peachy sucks. A shame, really.

The reason I had this idea was 'cause I got into an argument with someone who thinks that all music since '94 sucks. And it got me thinking. But there is a lot out there, you just have to look for it a bit :)

Have you never heard of Refused?!

Best bands? Hmmm KoRn, Disturbed, jerk, The Offspring yadda yadda..

Best Album:
Issues by KoRn

:)

noooooo! its the worst album they ever did!

I mean KoRn, their debut is a genre defining classic, no matter what some elitist black mettaller says.

But issues. Thats weak.

I shall go for the best/most revolutionary/most challengin/intricate/heavy band in the world, and their debut.

Dillinger escape plan- Calculating infinity.

Their new album is pretty damn awesome too, it proves they can do melody better than any pop writer and still be scary and intellegent. (listen to unretrofied and see what I mean).

Dillinger escape plan- miss machine

they supported slipknot (pfft... should have been the other way round) and fans found them scarier than the headliners.... but yet they also have more meoldy and intricacy too. Few bands can top those extremes.


And I ve heard of refused. They changed hardocre forver apparently, I have yet to buy the album... but its on the to do list. :)

Legless Pirates - My favourite RATM album :D ...but unfortunately they don't meet the 10 year criteria. :p

RPP- Heard of but don't know.

Educate yourselves!!

http://www.burningheart.com/refused/
http://page.to/come/

Oops...

Dillinger Escape Plan = Hyperactive metal no one can follow

noooooo! its the worst album they ever did!

I mean KoRn, their debut is a genre defining classic, no matter what some elitist black mettaller says.

But issues. Thats weak.


I thought 'Take a look in the mirror' was their worst album, but it doesn't matter, everyone has a different oppinion.

And I forgot to add some:
Issues by KoRn
KoRn by KoRn
Life is peachy by KoRn
Believe by Disturbed
The Sickness by Disturbed
When pure is defilled by Jerk

Meh, I know I forgot something...
:sniper:

Opeth - Still Life
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Tool - Lateralus
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
Muse - Origin of Symetry

And I don't know anybody on NS who can knock a band who wrote a song about the rise and fall of communism and the subsequent democracy in soviet russia.
For someone who claims to be a musical expert you put quite a lot of emphasis on words/lyrics.

Tool is synonymous with Migraine, smart music for dumb people. Weird time signatures and big words do not make a good band.

RATM's self titled is their best, so much fire.

Silverchair were nothing but Nirvana ripoffs when they were actually heterosexual.

And how can anyone comment on music in the last 10 years when they haven't heard Weezer's Blue Album, a classic.

The Beatles, The Kinks, The Beach Boys, Nirvana, The Pixies, Weezer, are all considered great because of the songwriting not the musical integrity.

Tool is synonymous with Migraine, smart music for dumb people. Weird time signatures and big words do not make a good band.

Lateralus was a bit like that. Aenima and then Opiate were their best work.

RATM's self titled is their best, so much fire.

Used to think that, but grew out of it and I now prefer Battle of LA.

Silverchair were nothing but Nirvana ripoffs when they were actually heterosexual.

Frogstomp was, but they did change their sound...

(Though I dont like their latest album, Diarrhoea. Sorry, Diorama.)

And how can anyone comment on music in the last 10 years when they haven't heard Weezer's Blue Album, a classic.

If you don't like it, shove. :p

The Beatles, The Kinks, The Beach Boys, Nirvana, The Pixies, Weezer, are all considered great because of the songwriting not the musical integrity.

I agree on that one...

Hmm...off the top of my head:

Radiohead - The Bends
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Tenacious D.
Foo Fighters - The Colour and The Shape

Quite partial to a bit of Tool though (steady) especially Opiate.

True, "Weird Time signatures and big words do not make a good band" but the way their music "flows" does. Theres no other way to describe it.

Mezzanine! :D
Add Blowback by Tricky to that list. Not a band, but yeah...

Yes, The Colour and the Shape, some of it is a little dull, but Everlong is a personal favorite.

Oops...

Dillinger Escape Plan = Hyperactive metal no one can follow

rigt i shall take that apart. Hyperactive... not really, theres faster stuff. Metal, no not really, they evolved from hardcore but are influenced by jazz, pop,alternative dance and grindcore. No one can follow? No, i just fnd the best music takes a couple of listens. Instead of trying to follow it as one, just focus on the little parts for a few seconds, then the whole things, and suddenly you have detail and complexity and musical dexterity. Those people that do get it love it, it just takes persistance. Most of my favourate CD's didnt click instantly. I didnt love them, yet something at the back of my mind did and told me to listen again, becuase somewhere i "got" it. Then suddenly, those Cds became the most engaging and durable music I had.

Speaking of loved by a select few- Iron Monkey's EP is awesome, but if you want an album... "our problem". WARNING: dont listen to it for long periods on high volume with a headphones... its asking for a headache! Or symphonies of sickness by caracass. But most people couldnt grasp the magnificent detail or quality of the riffs, because the are so unapproachable, with all those bands. But yet when you do, the elements which alienated at first add more power to the riffs.

Plus. have you even listened to miss machine? Bar panasonic youth? Its varied and certain bits are very approachable.

U2 - All that you can't leave behind

ROFL.

That was a good one!

That's your opinion. But in my opinion Permission to Land by The Darkness is a fine album. And unlike a lot of other nonsense out atm, you can have fun while listening to it!

Seriously though, my girlfriend wants me to buy her an extremely old album for her birthday but I have no idea which one it is. Could someone tell me which Bon Jovi album the song "Always" is on. It was released around 10 years ago. I've been trapsing round shops for weeks. If someone could help me by telling me the name of the album, I would be very grateful.

Seriously though, my girlfriend wants me to buy her an extremely old album for her birthday but I have no idea which one it is. Could someone tell me which Bon Jovi album the song "Always" is on. It was released around 10 years ago. I've been trapsing round shops for weeks. If someone could help me by telling me the name of the album, I would be very grateful.

According to my research I believe this may be the album you are looking for:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001EC1/103-1856891-3591838?v=glance

Bon Jovi - "Cross Road"




Audio CD (October 18, 1994)

Original Release Date: October 18, 1994

According to my research I believe this may be the album you are looking for:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001EC1/103-1856891-3591838?v=glance

Bon Jovi - "Cross Road"

Great thanks!

Some predictible answers in there
Yeah anything by Tool is freaking awsome and anybody else who said them can now be deemed cool by my official standards.
Others I enjoy;
Slipknot - s.t.
Tomahawk - s.t.
Blood Duster - C***
Soulfly - s.t.
Some good bluesy stuff coming from the likes of Ben Harper as well!
A lot of "modern" rock like JET is just a rip of from the Beatles era, sorry to say it but it's true

My submission would probably have to be:

Oasis - Definitely Maybe or (What's the Story) Morning Glory though the latter has a few songs that are too long for their own good (e.g. Champagne Supernova)

Great thanks!

No problem :) Good luck, I should think it's the one she probably wants considering it contains that track and it was released exactly 10 years ago to this day. Wish her a happy birthday for me :P

No problem :) Good luck, I should think it's the one she probably wants considering it contains that track and it was released exactly 10 years ago to this day. Wish her a happy birthday for me :P

She'd get a bit worried if I said "The guy I met on the internet who knew exactly which album you wanted says Happy birthday."

But I like worrying her so why not. Sadist! :cool:

For all you Tool fans

There’s only one kind of Tool fan. The Tool fan who thinks that being a Tool fan lets them into some big secret that nobody else gets. They think that only a select few posses the secret Tool decoder ring. They’d love to believe that all the halfwits who listen to Tool actually don’t get it, but really they’re all listening to them for the same reason. The fact of the matter is, any moron can understand Tool, but the hidden appeal of Tool lies in the fact that they give the illusion of being a band for smart people. They do this, as any Tool fan knows, by throwing in jumbled references to high school psychology, obscure religious references, and miscellaneous meaningless nonsense. Bullshit or not, as long as there’s something there to figure out or interpret, it’s going to make some stoned dropout feel smart.

Certainly there’s more to like about Tool than just their connect-the-dots pseudo-intellectualism. For starters, there’s Maynard James Keenan’s (second stupidest name in pop music, next to Idlewild’s Roddy Woomble) halting, breathy, nauseatingly affected crooning. He’s like the Morrissey of hard rock. He’s also a deep, poetic lyricist, having made millions of snickering Beavis-clones feel like subversive badasses for playing songs about fisting in their mom’s minivans (to avoid a few angry e-mails, let me just humor you and say “the song isn’t really about fisting, there’s like… a whole other deeper level, man”). Honestly, it’s difficult to imagine how anyone could mistake his ham-fisted poetry for good. “My shadow / shedding skin / I’ve been picking / my scabs again.” It’s certainly a lot closer to Reznor than it is to Yeats. The man is just singing about angst and non-specific malaise, just like every other whiny hard-rock nerd. I’m sure Tool fans like to argue that he poignantly sings about his own traumatic history of abuse, but come on, it’s not like that’s a rare commodity these days; all it does it put him in the same lofty poetic stratosphere as the guy from Korn.

A lot of Tool fans also like to talk about what an amazing drummer Danny Carey is just because he can do weird time signatures and that really fast prog-rock thumpa thumpa thumpa thing. As for the others, from everything I’ve ever heard of them, their guitar player and bassist are little more than passable (in fact, having heard the song “Lateralus” on the radio, I distinctly recall conspicuously bad guitar work). Furthermore, their albums are about as consistent as Russian roulette; for every catchy pop single like 46 and 2, there’s twice the volume of unlistenable time-filling crap. I’m glad the band loves their fans enough to include a German cookie recipe and an angry answering machine message. Lord knows they didn’t buy the record expecting too many actual songs. Maybe their record label gives them some sort of bonus check if they make their CD exactly 79 minutes long.

They’re the ultimate hybrid of the two most nerdy and worthless styles of music: heavy metal and progressive rock. They barely manage to walk the fine line between complimenting the listener’s intelligence and insulting it. They’re responsible for introducing a level of hilarious faux-satanic mysticism to pop music that we haven’t heard since Hotel California by the Eagles. Their crimes against humanity have not gone unpunished, though; they’re forever cursed to have an unbearable fanbase, terrible haircuts, and videos so gloomy that they verge on hilarious. If you’re a Tool fan and disagree with my summary, feel free to keep your worthless trap shut for once in your whining, self-involved life.

'Tis true
From Dr. David Thorpe, on SomethingAwful.com

I'm gonna have to say that it's somewhere between "Opeth - Blackwater Park" and "Pain Of Salvation - The Perfect Element part 1".

While "Opeth - Still Life" is indeed amazing, if I was forced to choose one Opeth album by gun point, it would be Blackwater Park.

Music like that of Opeth and Pain Of Salvation is something truly original and progressive, something weird to find in an age that bands are just trying to copy off older acts, and where it seems that it would be impossible to create a brand new sound. Yet they do it, and make it look easy. Listen to those albums and prepare for a life changing experience.

About Dillinger Escape Plan, they are amazing!!! although I prefer Calculating Infinity because of Dimitri's voice, Miss Machine is really good too. With them, I didn't tried to analize their music or "follow it", I listened to the thing as a whole and absolutely loved the cheer brutality of their sound. Then I started digesting the little parts in their music.

*kicks Sussido*

Dr David Thorpe is a musical elitist. No one genre is better than another, there is only one sort of person who thinks like this. Close minded fools.

Heavy metal and prog are great genres. However tool takes the prentious aspects of both. Im not going to comment more on this, as I havent listened to that album more than once. It just sits on my Cd collection now and awaits me being bored enough to give it another try at entertaining me.

Heavy metal is the most diverse genre in existance, in that it is brave and boundary pushing in many areas at once. Prog can be prententious, but guess what? People like music that manages to go for four minutes without repeating itself to death. And then, even better, goes on for another four and still doesnt get old. Well they do if they have an attention span.

Saldy I agree with the faux satanism point, though that said, there arent that many bands which actually advocate or promote satanism to be cool. I mean some describe stuff, but thats part of the lyrics. Iron maiden? Number of the beast. Not satanic. Metallica? Satanic? Against needless wars maybe.... Carcass? Um, just peurile. Slayer... hmm... well.. its just imagery, like Angel of death, they werent nazis, they were just telling a horror story.

As for black metal bands promoting satanism. Um, well seeing as they genuinely are, I think they are exempt from that criticism. Its onyl faux satanism to the casual pseudo intellectual who is too stupid to actually see that its not meant to be at all.

Thats what bugged me about the heavy metal issue in NS, what has satan got to do with thrash metal?


Oh, and RATM-RATM, awesome. Few other albums can get such a reaction from people. I mean how many other albums played in a club can have the whole crowd singing to it, when ANY particular song off that album is played.... Shame its 1992 really isnt it?

*Barfs up lunch after vicious attack by Notquiteaplace*

Now why did you have to go and kick me. I was just posting the opinions of someone else. And you even agreed with most of it.

As for David Thorpe and musical elitism, he tends to exaggerate. What he truly meant is that Tool managed to take all the things from those two genres which can make them shitty, from the overwrought drumming to the faux satanism to the massive amount of prog filler.

And amen about RATM

Well...after an amusing chuckle, I'll return us to the original thread topic.
(damn, we need more active moderation to keep things on topic!)

Best bands? I prefer to think of this as the band(s) w/ the most interesting creative material in the past 10 years, rather than who only came into being in the last 10 years.

Albums (from last 10 years) currently in high rotation:

Lake Trout -- Another One Lost
Flaming Lips, The -- The Soft Bulletin
Flaming Lips, The -- Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
Radiohead -- Kid A
Radiohead -- OK Computer
Radiohead -- Hail to the Thief
Medeski Martin and Wood -- Combustication
Dismemberment Plan, The -- Emergency and I
Blackalicious -- Blazing Arrow
Soul Coughing -- El Oso
Beck -- Mutations
Postal Service, The -- Give Up
Dismemberment Plan, The -- Is Terrified! (I think this is the last 10 years still)

i've heard mention of the blue album but what about Weezer's Pinkerton? Perhaps my favorite album of all time.

*Barfs up lunch after vicious attack by Notquiteaplace*

Now why did you have to go and kick me. I was just posting the opinions of someone else. And you even agreed with most of it.

As for David Thorpe and musical elitism, he tends to exaggerate. What he truly meant is that Tool managed to take all the things from those two genres which can make them shitty, from the overwrought drumming to the faux satanism to the massive amount of prog filler.

And amen about RATM


sorry, I was aiming for the shin, It wasnt meant to be vicious. But obviously I aimed to high. Yeah, all genres have their highs and lows and tool doesnt get all the highs from the ones it takes from. I'll give you that. I'll add a couple.

Fear Factory- demanufacture
System of a down- system of a down

OH COME ON PEOPLE!

From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah NIRVANA

I would have said "Jawbreaker-Unfun", but that clearly violates the rule.

Not only that it is completely laughable compared to side 2 of their 'Bivouac' LP.

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To qualify, the band must have been formed no earlier than 1994.

I'm nominating Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf.


QOTSA are good.

But thier first two albums are way better than Songs for the Deaf.

To qualify, the band must have been formed no earlier than 1994.

I'm nominating Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf.


A lot of the bands being thrown out were formed before thge cut off date - in particular Medeski, Martin, and Wood (kick ass as they may be), Tool, RATM, Nirvana, and U2 - U2 especially - seeing as they've been around since the 70s.

On topic, the first post-'94 band that come to my mind is the Dropkick Murphys.

Slipknot - s.t.
That has a few alright songs on it. A shame that they suck (IMHO) now.
Soulfly - s.t.
Yeah, they're good.

For all you Tool fans

There’s only one kind of Tool fan. The Tool fan who thinks that being a Tool fan lets them into some big secret that nobody else gets. They think that only a select few posses the secret Tool decoder ring.

Crap, Crap, Crap. If you can't formulate your own objective criticism and must resort to copying someone elses ramblings, don't bother. I have to say though, the above is complete and utter bullshit. I don't know any Tool fans like that, and it sounds like the person who wrote it "Dr. David Thorpe" is just some bighead that loves to talk through his arse.

Personally though, I don't find "Lateralus" that great an album. It's good, and I play it from time to time, but it lacks the energy (Besides the song Ticks and Leeches, which is pretty damn cool) of Opiate and Aenima (I don't have Undertow), and doesnt feel as good, getting boring in some parts. Unfortunately, their next album is meant to be offcuts from Lateralus, so i'm not hanging out for it.

Despite its fillers (which are easily taken care of with a programmable CD player), Aenima was a great album. I don't care about technical competence of the music or whatever, or how pretentious the band members are, i just take how it sounds. And to me, it sounds great. There isn't a song on that album that sucks. Ditto for Opiate.


Oh, and RATM-RATM, awesome. Few other albums can get such a reaction from people. I mean how many other albums played in a club can have the whole crowd singing to it, when ANY particular song off that album is played.... Shame its 1992 really isnt it?

That's the one album thats responsible for getting me into music. When I heard it in 1999, I was an instant fan. Up until then, I wasn't really into much music at all.

OH COME ON PEOPLE!

From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah NIRVANA

For a live album, it's pretty good, Got most of my favorite songs of theres on it. They broke the 10 year rule though :p Actually, sod the rule. Suggest whatever you like. :D

QOTSA are good.

But thier first two albums are way better than Songs for the Deaf.

I thought that originally too, and was a little disappointed hearing it after Rated R. If you take the album as a whole though, rather than just individual songs for example, gradually it will grow on you. "No One Knows" I used to think was pretty mediocre, but in the context of the album it comes together very well. It's like a psychological backtrack to Kyuss, in that you have to listen to the whole thing in a stretch to really appreciate it. The filler material isn't really too bad either. Most albums I have with sections like that I end up skipping over, but not this one. It seems to fit the mould of the album well.

I guess it depends on what you prefer. The first two albums had some really great standalone songs, but Songs For The Deaf has to be listened to in full, I think. Maybe give it another chance?

I used Dr. David Thorpe's words because they express the way I feel about Tool better than I could.

It does seem that most people like Tool because they sound intelligent. Most mainstream hard rock is really unintelligent music, and Tool fans feel like really cool intellectual people listening it. When I was in high school I was the same way. Now I have heard what intelligent music is actually like and Tool has lost all appeal to me.

The Wishkah album is great, Aneurysm fires me up more than any other version of any song I have ever heard.

And for some great songs, go to KEXP.com and check out their live performances, most of the stuff there is acoustic and it is amazing stuff.

And for some great songs, go to KEXP.com and check out their live performances, most of the stuff there is acoustic and it is amazing stuff.

FYI: It's http://www.kexp.org

Not .com
Non-profit radio, funded by listeners (like me) =)

g.e.

Yes, quite right, thank you.

And as a sidenote, I would encourage everyone to check out the Iron & Wine performance.

I used Dr. David Thorpe's words because they express the way I feel about Tool better than I could.

It does seem that most people like Tool because they sound intelligent. Most mainstream hard rock is really unintelligent music, and Tool fans feel like really cool intellectual people listening it. When I was in high school I was the same way. Now I have heard what intelligent music is actually like and Tool has lost all appeal to me.

I wouldn't really say it's mainstream...when they formed at least, it certainly wasn't. I would say that compared to many other contemporary hard rock bands (IE. Limp Bizkit, Creed, Hoobastank, etc..), it is intelligent music.

However, if i want something purely for intellectual value, acoustic/classical stuff is what i'll go for.

The Wishkah album is great, Aneurysm fires me up more than any other version of any song I have ever heard.

DEFINITELY. That version of Aneurysm is what makes it my favourite Nirvana song. Amazingly good...the only thing I miss in it is the final scream :)

And for some great songs, go to KEXP.com and check out their live performances, most of the stuff there is acoustic and it is amazing stuff.

Sure, will do.

The Beatles: Let It Be......Naked

It was released last year even though the songs were made much earlier :sniper:

Pink Floyd!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE DARKNESS- PERMISSION TO LAND

Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile

Shpongle: Tales of the Inexpressable
download it (buying music's for fools), lock the door, turn off your phone, turn off the lights, light up a j, relax and get ready to spend 1:09:03 in audial heaven. ;)

William Hung: Inspiration!!!!!

Soul Coughing's El Oso and Radiohead's OK Computer are both great albums, but, for my money, Try Whistling This by Neil Finn is just a perfect pop confection, and the best album of the past decade.

download it (buying music's for fools)

NOT buying music will eventually ensure that there is no good music, either to buy or to download.

Get Born - Jet

6 ARIA awards from the Austalian Music Industry this year.


I second that one - damn good album.

So now that we've mentioned dozens of terrible bands or bands that just don't meet the criteria of the original post, can we all agree that 'Jets to Brazil-Orange Rhyming Dictionary' is the correct answer?

I second that one - damn good album.

"Good" only if you've never heard the 70s source material from which it was stolen.

NOT buying music will eventually ensure that there is no good music, either to buy or to download.

Musicians make by far MOST of their money from touring and paraphernalia sales. CDs are more like commercials for these 'products'; and paying for commercials is almost as stupid as paying for brand name emblazened clothing (modern sandwich boards - - ['ok, so if I give you 60 dollars, I can wear this advertisement for your company?! OK, SURE!']). Besides, thinking that not paying for pre-recorded music will end good music (a form of artistic expression that has been with us for.. oh..., 40,000 years), is very capitolicentric and naive... Besides, most of the 'good' acts are the ones who aren't doing it for the money anyway.

"Good" only if you've never heard the 70s source material from which it was stolen.

Yeah that one Jet song is a complete rip off of Black Dog and My Generation.

Okay, for people who don't/won't get it:

Refused - The Shape Of Punk To Come

shame they got their start in 93. "songs to fan the flames of discontent" ain't bad either though.

Besides, thinking that not paying for pre-recorded music will end good music (a form of artistic expression that has been with us for.. oh..., 40,000 years), is very capitolicentric and naive

indeed. as if nobody played music before the invention of the music industry.

Musicians make by far MOST of their money from touring and paraphernalia sales. CDs are more like commercials for these 'products'; and paying for commercials is almost as stupid as paying for brand name emblazened clothing (modern sandwich boards - - ['ok, so if I give you 60 dollars, I can wear this advertisement for your company?! OK, SURE!]). Besides, thinking that not paying for pre-recorded music will end music (a form of artistic expression that has been with us for.. oh..., 40,000 years), is very capitolicentric and naive...

Well, I'm biased, because I'm a songwriter, but...

Though, indeed, at this time, musicians make most of their income from concerts and their accoutrements, this has not always been the case and will not always be the case. And songwriters make virtually nothing from these performances.

And I didn't say that "not paying for pre-recorded music will end music..." Instead, I believe that, when someone gives something away for free, you're getting exactly what you pay for.

KORN!!!!! prbly there first cd (called korn) or issues

ac/dc back in black

and RATM's monk on fire cd.... just great

[QUOTE=Incongruency]Well, I'm biased, because I'm a songwriter, but...
songwriters make virtually nothing from these performances.

The people that make most of the money in the industry by far are the record companies. This is ridiculous. That would be comparable to the sales and shipping departments in the auto industry being in the same position. The writers and performers should be the ones with their fingers deepest in the pot. There's plenty of cash there, it's just not distributed correctly at all.

when someone gives something away for free, you're getting exactly what you pay for.

Again: capitolicentric... Cost does not equal good. Wipe away the green ink from your lenses. :)

Band: Tvangeste
Album: Firestorm

Band: Zyklon
Album: World ov Worms (though I haven't heard Aeon yet)

Hmm, kid A by radiohead or Scenes from a memory by Dream theater
how about a best album of 2000 now?

Rammstien-"Mutter"
Nightwish-"Once"
Disturbed-"The Sickness"
Faithless-"Reverence" or "Sunday 8pm"

Any Bob Dylan album, except "Empire Burlesque"

Any Bob Dylan album, except "Empire Burlesque"

You aren't as big an idiot as I thought, however Bob Dylan would be very much opposed to most of the arguments you make on here. With that said Love and Theft and Time Out of Mind are the two that apply to this thread, and they are both excellent.

I have seen Disturbed on here multiple times, and that is rediculous. Every song is 4 notes played in drop D with some incredible stupid lyrics. They don't even realize the irony of the song Stupify.

I'm a pacisfist like him.

People forget Dylan has an angry, violent side to him. Haven't you ever heard "Idiot Wind?" Or any of his other "dark" songs.
His song "Jokerman" was almost like a relegious conversion for me. "Subterrnian Homesick Blues" is an amazing song. Desire is an excellent album. So is "Blood on the Tracks", And his two "essential" albums.

i'm torn!

'chutes too narrow,' the shins
'castaways and cutouts,' the decemberists
'greetings from michigan, the great lakes state,' sufjan stevens
or the team america: world police OST. that thing is bomb-ass.

"No Gods/No Managers" - Choking Victim.

You aren't as big an idiot as I thought, however Bob Dylan would be very much opposed to most of the arguments you make on here.


If I had to align my political and musical tastes, I'd be stuck listening to Rush. I hate Rush. :gundge:

i'm torn!

'chutes too narrow,' the shins
'castaways and cutouts,' the decemberists
'greetings from michigan, the great lakes state,' sufjan stevens
or the team america: world police OST. that thing is bomb-ass.

nuh uh it's "Oh, inverted world" by the shins...that's their best

I agree with the team america one "America! Fuck yeah!"

Kernlandia, you have some mighty fine taste in music.
Have you heard Her Majesty by the Decemberists?
Or Seven Swans by Sufjan Stevens?

I would also suggest Rogue Wave, Iron and Wine, and Devendra Banhart also.

Sehnsucht by Rammstein. Not sure how long they've been together though. But Rammstein!!!
Also throw in The White Stripes.

Sehnsucht by Rammstein. Not sure how long they've been together though. But Rammstein!!!
Also throw in The White Stripes.

Yeah, both are pretty good.