NationStates Jolt Archive


How many Brits out there?

Cyber Duck
18-10-2004, 21:28
As far as I know, with all the election threads around, I'm begginning to wonder how may British people there are. At the moment I know of quite few non-americans, but I'm not sure how may out of them are British.
Iceasruler
18-10-2004, 21:50
*sticks hand in air* hello there, I live in England.
Sirocco
18-10-2004, 21:56
There are about 60 million of us.
Vonners
18-10-2004, 22:06
http://www.troop7.org/Flags/Images/SaintGeorge.259.JPG
Pandafish
18-10-2004, 22:11
I'm British and socialists piss me off (Unfortunately yanks seem to think all Europeans are those :().
Vonners
18-10-2004, 22:15
I'm British and socialists piss me off (Unfortunately yanks seem to think all Europeans are those :().

I'm English and toffs piss me off...now hop to it prole boy
General Mike
18-10-2004, 22:36
*Posts*
Neo Latium
18-10-2004, 22:40
I am British.
Hurrah for us! We managed to own a quarter of the world once, how capital!
Bodies Without Organs
18-10-2004, 22:48
I am British.
Hurrah for us! We managed to own a quarter of the world once, how capital!

And now all you are left with is us feckers in Northern Ireland.
Neo Latium
18-10-2004, 22:51
And now all you are left with is us feckers in Northern Ireland.

Don't remind me.... :(
DHomme
18-10-2004, 22:54
And now all you are left with is us feckers in Northern Ireland.

Quite you paddy fool. Now, go back to your pint of guiness and your shamrock scratchings while we run your country for you. There's a good chap
Vonners
18-10-2004, 23:08
And now all you are left with is us feckers in Northern Ireland.

And the sheepshaggers in the Falklands!
Bodies Without Organs
18-10-2004, 23:09
Quite you paddy fool. Now, go back to your pint of guiness and your shamrock scratchings while we run your country for you. There's a good chap

That's 'hun fool', thank you. :p
Vonners
18-10-2004, 23:11
That's 'hun fool', thank you. :p

You're German as well?? !!! ??

:)
Bodies Without Organs
18-10-2004, 23:13
And the sheepshaggers in the Falklands!

Let us not have the good monkey-spankers of Gibraltar pass without mention either.

Any other pink bits still left on the globe, other than the tiny islands?
Bodies Without Organs
18-10-2004, 23:14
You're German as well?? !!! ??

Slang term for those of Protestant extraction in Ulster or Eire (and thus neither Paddies nor Micks), as I'm sure well you know, but I'll explain it for the sake of others here.
L-rouge
19-10-2004, 00:08
*stands up* I'm British. *person next to him stands up* No, I'm British!

(dunno where thats going!) :)
Nadkor
19-10-2004, 00:54
er yea hello
Cyber Duck
19-10-2004, 19:26
just in ns, there are more than I relised. Haven't seen any of you lot around before, apart from bodies without organs
Schnappslant
19-10-2004, 19:37
just in ns, there are more than I relised. Haven't seen any of you lot around before, apart from bodies without organs

That's cause we don't know jack about the US election and if we did... would we care?

It's fun debating with yanks. Alright maybe not fun; frustrating to the max? closer
The Reunited Yorkshire
19-10-2004, 20:15
As you may guess from my name, I'm British...
Petsburg
19-10-2004, 20:51
*raises hand*
Cousin Eddie
19-10-2004, 21:01
I am a sceptic about all forms of politics, like proper beer and complain about the weather wherever I go.

Damn, must be a Brit.

God Save the Queen...

...nah.
Camden Town
19-10-2004, 21:01
I hail from that topping place known as Britain!
Brutanion
19-10-2004, 21:03
I am a Vorlon resident of England.
So technically I count.
:p
Nidnodistan
19-10-2004, 21:07
I'm British! Well... Scottish.
Huzen Hagen
19-10-2004, 21:47
Half english, half german but i have lived in england all my life (more specificly london)
Aust
19-10-2004, 21:51
I'm actually Yorkshireish, but until we get our inderpendence I'm british. Oh, and we still own a few islands in the Pacific, and technically our queen still rules over the commonwealth.

On another nate, Vote Lib Dem. Thank you.
Brutanion
19-10-2004, 21:53
I'm actually Yorkshireish, but until we get our inderpendence I'm british. Oh, and we still own a few islands in the Pacific, and technically our queen still rules over the commonwealth.

On another nate, Vote Lib Dem. Thank you.

Trouble with that situation is that if Yorkshire becomes independent then Devon will do so as well and then annex Cornwall.
Aust
19-10-2004, 21:56
Trouble with that situation is that if Yorkshire becomes independent then Devon will do so as well and then annex Cornwall.
i don't know, it might not. besides it's only really Cornwall thats ever wanted inderpendence.
Shammone
19-10-2004, 22:09
im english and i think there are less yanks here than any1 else the average american probly dosnt know what electricity is and just to say that posh: proper dense them there mcdonalds dosnt know what powers a teapot
Brutanion
19-10-2004, 22:13
im english and i think there are less yanks here than any1 else the average american probly dosnt know what electricity is and just to say that posh: proper dense them there mcdonalds dosnt know what powers a teapot

Tea powers a teapot.
Otherwise it's just a novelty hot water jug.
Brutanion
19-10-2004, 22:17
i don't know, it might not. besides it's only really Cornwall thats ever wanted inderpendence.

It certainly seems to be that way, but really Devon is currently building up supplies of illegal Bovines of Mass Destruction and stocking large numbers of caravans for use as mobile command centres in a surprise attack.
They also manufacture a strange substance known only as 'Ambrosia Custard'. This substance defies attempts at chemical analysis and the only conclusion scientists have come to is 'Devon knows how they make it so creamy'.
Marimaia
19-10-2004, 22:19
British here!

*waves mini Union Jack*
Shammone
19-10-2004, 22:26
Half english, half german but i have lived in england all my life (more specificly london)
your brit-ish
Camel Eaters
19-10-2004, 22:34
And now all you are left with is us feckers in Northern Ireland.
Ya got a problem with the Irish? Saxon boy *spits* You're all jackasses.
Camel Eaters
19-10-2004, 22:38
im english and i think there are less yanks here than any1 else the average american probly dosnt know what electricity is and just to say that posh
Mighty fine talk for someone who got their asses handed to 'em in a war.
Mouldy Teacups
19-10-2004, 22:43
I'm english! Pick me!
So...
The weather's been... amazingly average lately, has it not?
Castellea
19-10-2004, 22:46
Another resident of the UK signing in.

Yes... it's been lovely weather lately. The rain has been almost warm.

*starts singing "Land of Hope and Glory"*
X bomber
19-10-2004, 22:47
I am american and I agree, half of us our so stuffed full of fast food crap that we can't even think anymore
X bomber
19-10-2004, 22:53
Oh yah and for all the Americans out there: no I am not a traitor, and yes we are stupid. We elected a Texas redneck who wins support by saying "don't forget Poland" and "Need any wood."
Brutanion
19-10-2004, 22:54
Mighty fine talk for someone who got their asses handed to 'em in a war.

Would that be the war where Cromwell went to Ireland?
Bayorta
19-10-2004, 23:00
I am British! I am extremely proud of it. I am also a strong supporter of the union and hope that all this devolution BS will one day be crushed.

The people of Northern Ireland are proud to be British - so don't talk about them as a colony - they are actually British - our brothers. The people of our overseas territories are also our brothers! Now enough with your silly comments - be proud of your nation!
Bayorta
19-10-2004, 23:05
Another resident of the UK signing in.

Yes... it's been lovely weather lately. The rain has been almost warm.

*starts singing "Land of Hope and Glory"*

Absolutely Pathetic! You judge a nation by a small amount of wet weather? How lame!
English Saxons
19-10-2004, 23:07
English here, I'm not a sheepshagger taff, jock or paddy.

I am British! I am extremely proud of it. I am also a strong supporter of the union and hope that all this devolution BS will one day be crushed.

I'm all for devolution, not regionalisation.

Fuck the Union, Scotland and Wales can join the EU as independent nations, and England can decide itself without the Scottish executive sticking its fucking nose in.

That's the trouble with "British" elections, all the leaders are celts.

The people of Northern Ireland are proud to be British - so don't talk about them as a colony - they are actually British - our brothers. The people of our overseas territories are also our brothers! Now enough with your silly comments - be proud of your nation!

The Protestants usually are because of the Church of England.

I wouldn't say they were all proud to be associated with Britain, or the Scottish Empire.
Bodies Without Organs
19-10-2004, 23:10
Ya got a problem with the Irish? Saxon boy *spits* You're all jackasses.

Nah - just that all we in Northern Ireland, regardless of our religious extraction/tradition or political allegiances remain right royal pains in the ass as far as the rest of the UK goes.
Bodies Without Organs
19-10-2004, 23:12
The people of Northern Ireland are proud to be British -

I'm not.
Ergo you are wrong.
Brutanion
19-10-2004, 23:15
I'm not.
Ergo you are wrong.

You will be when we're through with you, Paddyboy...
*takes out massive paddywhacker*
Bodies Without Organs
19-10-2004, 23:16
You will be when we're through with you, Paddyboy...
*takes out massive paddywhacker*

As, I have already pointed out in this thread - I'm not a paddy, I'm a hun.
English Saxons
19-10-2004, 23:16
Well done to the Scots though, they got their Parliament.

I'm sure the Welsh assembly will get more powers in the future too.

Shame that England is being given a 3rd rate choice by a 3rd rate government, anybody with logic would see an English Parliament seems like a reasonable answer to the 'WLQ'. But they wouldn't want to promote anything too "English", not when we can get smothered by being "British". . .
Camel Eaters
19-10-2004, 23:18
You know what I always hated about those damn Saxons?
What Tom?
They think they're so great because they conquered a bunch of folk who were still using sticks.
That's a good way to go about conquering.
Aye tis true although I wish we'd of thought of it first.
Aye.
Aye then.
English Saxons
19-10-2004, 23:19
You know what I always hated about those damn Saxons?
What Tom?
They think they're so great because they conquered a bunch of folk who were still using sticks.
That's a good way to go about conquering.
Aye tis true although I wish we'd of thought of it first.
Aye.
Aye then.

Still trying to grow potatoes?
Bodies Without Organs
19-10-2004, 23:20
You will be when we're through with you, Paddyboy...
*takes out massive paddywhacker*

There's an international police conference/training school going on and as part of it there are initiative tests for the various police forces from around the world. Three teams of them are dumped in the wilderness and told to capture a rabbit. The Israeli team grab a bulldozer and crash it through the hillside into a rabbit burrow and capture a rabbit within hours. The american cops call in a SWAT team and fire teargas into a burrow and grab a rabbit as it stumbles out with red eyes. The competition goes on until at the end of the day there is no sign of the RUC team - a referee goes out in search of them and finally finds their landrover. He opens the backdoors and sees 6 cops beating the shit out of an Irishman and shouting "What are you? You're a fucking rabbit! What are, sonny? You're a fucking rabbit!"
Brutanion
19-10-2004, 23:22
As, I have already pointed out in this thread - I'm not a paddy, I'm a hun.

Oh you really are a glutton for punishment aren't you?
*dual wields paddywhacker and hunbeater*
I blame you for the oppression of my fox brethren!!!
DIE!!!!!!!
Moonshine
19-10-2004, 23:26
As far as I know, with all the election threads around, I'm begginning to wonder how may British people there are. At the moment I know of quite few non-americans, but I'm not sure how may out of them are British.

/me waves a green citrus fruit.
Camel Eaters
19-10-2004, 23:28
Still trying to grow potatoes?
Still trying to grow a heart? You selfish english bastards driving the price of food during a famine.
Bayorta
19-10-2004, 23:30
I'm all AGAINST devolution - if anything I am for a strong centralised government. None of the separate parliaments should exist in my opinion - a waste of taxes and manpower. We could do so much more if we made a little more effort to become British!
The DHaran Empire
19-10-2004, 23:32
I just wanted to say the I am a proud American that is extremly proud of our British brothers. Seeing as how we (the United States) were a British colony once and that Britain a small insignificant island nation ruled 1/4 of the entire world! But what do you Brits think about that whole hogwash about your royal family not really being the true royal familly that the real King is actually a guy from Australia?
English Saxons
19-10-2004, 23:33
Still trying to grow a heart? You selfish english bastards driving the price of food during a famine.

:rolleyes:
Roma Islamica
19-10-2004, 23:33
I'm British and socialists piss me off (Unfortunately yanks seem to think all Europeans are those :().

Excuse me, but fyi, the term "yank" or "yankee" only applies to Americans north of the Mason-Dixon line and/or members of states that were in the Union at the time of the US Civil War, and more specifically in the Northeast. Originally, it applied to the Dutch-Americans which once occupied New York and came from the Dutch name "Janke" or "Little John". Calling a southerner a yankee will likely get you beaten up or at least harassed, especially if you're in the southern United States when you do it. I don't care how internationals use the term, because it's not correct to call Americans yankees. That's like calling all British people "English" when in fact, despite the almost uniform use of the language, they are not all English.
Bayorta
19-10-2004, 23:38
I just wanted to say the I am a proud American that is extremly proud of our British brothers. Seeing as how we (the United States) were a British colony once and that Britain a small insignificant island nation ruled 1/4 of the entire world! But what do you Brits think about that whole hogwash about your royal family not really being the true royal familly that the real King is actually a guy from Australia?

Insignificant? That's an insult!

Secondly - our empire was big, wasn’t it? A pitty you had to go and ruin our dreams of world domination :P

Thirdly - I saw that documentary. That guy was an idiot - and a traitor to his country. IMO the actual thing was a load of B/S - but if it has any truth to it - I would prefer Tony Blair as King rather than that idiot, and I am a Conservative :)
Vortech
19-10-2004, 23:42
Another resident of the UK signing in.

Yes... it's been lovely weather lately. The rain has been almost warm.

*starts singing "Land of Hope and Glory"*

Yet another Brit signing in. I just live somewhere else now.


*starts singing "...and the wind comes right behind the wassname......."*
English Saxons
19-10-2004, 23:47
I'm all AGAINST devolution - if anything I am for a strong centralised government. None of the separate parliaments should exist in my opinion - a waste of taxes and manpower. We could do so much more if we made a little more effort to become British!

British is archaic, British at present sees England disadvantaged. For us to be British we have to forget about being English or Scottish or Welsh. . .

I'd rather see devolution go the whole 9 yards. I guess England could be seen as the last colony.

Especially if we join the EU, why should England, Scotland and Wales be in a union within a fucking union?

Now that is a waste.

What do you mean a waste of man power? Don't you mean too much? How many civil servants does New Labour have now I wonder. . . Pen Advisers and Helpers to help Helpers, Paper Clip Managers. . . Commissions for disadvantaged rabbits. . .

Check out this link, http://www.englishconstitutionalconvention.com/yougov.html

Look at how many days it has been since England has had it's own Parliament :rollseyes:

also here http://www.thecep.org.uk/

I just wanted to say the I am a proud American that is extremly proud of our British brothers. Seeing as how we (the United States) were a British colony once and that Britain a small insignificant island nation ruled 1/4 of the entire world! But what do you Brits think about that whole hogwash about your royal family not really being the true royal familly that the real King is actually a guy from Australia?

I thought it was more than a 1/4 but nevermind.

I don't think about the fact the real King might be an Australian (although they are all practically anglo-saxon; but with shit accents). The monarchy is British, just another institution taken over... Don't really care. I read something about the Norweigan blood line being more "British" than our current "Windsor" family (who had to change their name during one of the World Wars).
Bayorta
19-10-2004, 23:52
British is archaic, British at present sees England disadvantaged. For us to be British we have to forget about being English or Scottish or Welsh. . .

I'd rather see devolution go the whole 9 yards. I guess England could be seen as the last colony.

Especially if we join the EU, why should England, Scotland and Wales be in a union within a fucking union?

Now that is a waste.

What do you mean a waste of man power? Don't you mean too much? How many civil servants does New Labour have now I wonder. . . Pen Advisers and Helpers to help Helpers, Paper Clip Managers. . . Commissions for disadvantaged rabbits. . .

Why not? I see this is where our views differ greatly. IMO One can indeed be proud of their English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish Heritage but be proud to be part of such a great nation and share a common British culture. I know what you mean about English culture etc being oppressed - I have witnessed it! But as I said - I am more for Britain than an individual nation.

The EU? Screw them - I hate it. Would leave it if i ever was PM.

I am a Tory - therefore it is my nature to hunt down Labour - lol. So I agree - Labour is in a civil servant mess at the moment.
Bucklebury
20-10-2004, 00:03
im english and i think there are less yanks here than any1 else the average american probly dosnt know what electricity is and just to say that posh: proper dense them there mcdonalds dosnt know what powers a teapot

I'm American, and I DO know what electrisity is.
It's the thing that makes my computer turn on. (and my x-box, my tv, and my electric guitar)
I think the average American probably does know what electrisity is, or at least what it's for.

I do know what powers a teapot, and I know how to make tea. (strangly enough, I don't know how to make coffee.... but that's ok. There are like Starbucks at every corner here..... so if I ever start liking coffee I can just go buy it)
I'm taking Chemistry this year so I have a feeling I will know what electrisity really is pretty soon.
English Saxons
20-10-2004, 00:06
Why not? I see this is where our views differ greatly. IMO One can indeed be proud of their English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish Heritage but be proud to be part of such a great nation and share a common British culture. I know what you mean about English culture etc being oppressed - I have witnessed it! But as I said - I am more for Britain than an individual nation.

The EU? Screw them - I hate it. Would leave it if i ever was PM.

I am a Tory - therefore it is my nature to hunt down Labour - lol. So I agree - Labour is in a civil servant mess at the moment.

Devolution at the moment is what has left us in this predicament. They can't even see it through properly, and now they're trying to pass off regionalisation as English devolution, c***s - They obviously couldn't give England it's own Parliament because for that to happen it would need to be constitutionaly recognised, and if they recognised it as a seperate nation with its own culture, heritage, history (etc) then regionalisation would seem a lot like divide and conquer. . . so we'll fuck them over and carry on using British hoping know one will notice.

Could always have individual Parliaments and slim down the UK Parliament for defence and foreign policy etc. The point is that the ability to differentiate between English and British has completely been screwed with, shite channels like the BBC don't help, they use British as a synonym for English (on more occasions than one). . . a key failure. Recognition is needed. I guess you could say English nationalism is very young compared to Scottish and Welsh nationalism, I wonder in the future whether it'll become more popular outside the football and rugby matches :rollseyes:

I hope we don't join the EU. Regionalisation referendum in the NE in a few weeks, wonder how many people will vote "no" just because Prescott is a fat ass. And in the EU referendum 2006 if Labour are serving a third term I wonder how many will also vote "no" just to send them a message.
L-rouge
20-10-2004, 01:21
I hope we don't join the EU. Regionalisation referendum in the NE in a few weeks, wonder how many people will vote "no" just because Prescott is a fat ass. And in the EU referendum 2006 if Labour are serving a third term I wonder how many will also vote "no" just to send them a message.

I hope we continue to be a part of the EU, its not as bad as the scare mongerers make out.
Also, people shouldn't really vote "no" just to send a message. If they vote "no" because they truly believe that that vote will mean changes for the better then fine, but to vote "no just to send a message seems a bit of a silly reason really.
English Saxons
20-10-2004, 01:26
I hope we continue to be a part of the EU, its not as bad as the scare mongerers make out.

I think there are scare mongerers on both sides, damned if we do, damned if we don't! :rolleyes:


Also, people shouldn't really vote "no" just to send a message. If they vote "no" because they truly believe that that vote will mean changes for the better then fine, but to vote "no just to send a message seems a bit of a silly reason really.

I'm not saying it's the best idea, but I'm not saying it wont happen because I imagine a lot of people who don't care about politics will anyways.
L-rouge
20-10-2004, 01:32
I think there are scare mongerers on both sides, damned if we do, damned if we don't! :rolleyes:



I'm not saying it's the best idea, but I'm not saying it wont happen because I imagine a lot of people who don't care about politics will anyways.

Agree whole-heartedly with your first point! shame people can't just share the facts :(

Also, sadly, I do agree with your second point, I just don't think people should vote just to prove points if it isn't, necessarily, their belief. Anyhew, most people who don't care any about politics normally stay home, don't vote and then moan about any decisions that are made (I know so many of 'em!)
English Saxons
20-10-2004, 01:43
Agree whole-heartedly with your first point! shame people can't just share the facts :(

The facts are all there, it's just how they percieve the facts.

And both sides like to put spin and miss out facts which may jade their point.

Oh well, I'm against anyways.

Also, sadly, I do agree with your second point, I just don't think people should vote just to prove points if it isn't, necessarily, their belief. Anyhew, most people who don't care any about politics normally stay home, don't vote and then moan about any decisions that are made (I know so many of 'em!)

Everybody votes to say something, just some reasons are more trivial than others (but maybe not to them).
L-rouge
20-10-2004, 01:46
Fair enough.
You seem to be using this board to speak intelligently so I ask you, why are you against the EU?
Indiru
20-10-2004, 01:57
Does it count if you spent most of your childhood in England and developed an English accent but lost it when you came back to the states and dislike the French?
L-rouge
20-10-2004, 02:00
Does it count if you spent most of your childhood in England and developed an English accent but lost it when you came back to the states and dislike the French?
Not really, but we can make you honourary British if you want :D
English Saxons
20-10-2004, 02:03
Because it sees England as regions assuming regionalisation has already happened, and I don't like that. Which leads me to believe that regionalisation is the first step to entry to the EU, and why I believe Prescott has specificly picked out the NE only to vote on regionalisation (by using postal voting, even though he dropped other regions because of accusations of corruption). I also hate the term "pooling sovreignty", British Law which doesn't comply with EU Law has to be changed, I also believe the EU wrongfuly sees itself as a soon-to-be nation; take the Olympics for example or England rugby triumph. Britain would also not recieve what it gives in subsidies and it's constant playing of the EU national anthem. Our currency is strong, we don't need to adopt the Euro, which I've heard could fall due to China's rapid growth. I read that France and Italy have over 400 violations but the EU could be taking Britain to court over tourists taking back cheap booze; It seems as if we are being targeted specifically, maybe I'm bias.

Too many socialists run the EU, which might be why it is viewed as so paternalistic, with emphasis on social welfare constantly. Which isn't neccessarily bad but our current New Labour government is already obsessed with endless amounts of civil servants, legislations of ideals about how we should live about lives and bureaucracy.

It sells itself as anti-American, the soon to be rival power. . .

I don't see how it can justify the English Rugby World Cup victory as a victory for Europe.

The EU is whoring out the fisheries.

There are also Mr. Browns 5 economic tests to take into consideration. Have you seen the article where Blair is to have allegedly tride to bribe Brown into agreeing to sign up to the EU if he was to step down for a third term. Brown apparently said no because it wasn't in the best interests of Britain yet.

I've heard a lot of complaints from France about Britain getting a lot their way however which is positive, but would we be able to pull out? Especially after a Belgium nationalist party got banned for "being against the interests of the EU". If Britain was set to dominate I also don't like nations such as France, Germany and Belgium trying to create a "core" pack, as if to say other nations are subordinate. The introduction of Turkey also doesn't appeal to me, it seems that cultural reasons for joining the EU are void because of this, and rumours of in 30-40 years the EU expanding outside the EU to the middle east like Libya. . . it seems like a Federalist dream. . . in which case why would we need national Parliaments in the future? I believe national identity is important, with regionalisation supposedly taking care of our local needs, and the EU dominating our national needs (like French MPS etc no) it seems a bit strange.

Blair wants us to be at the heart of EU decision making, so why has the EU reduced the number of seats we can elect MEPs into? It's bullshit. Pro-devolution and Pro-EU doesn't make any sense.

I don't know if I've missed much, I have a headache.
Indiru
20-10-2004, 02:06
Not really, but we can make you honourary British if you want :D


YAY! Finally, I am justified for spelling 'favourite'...
English Saxons
20-10-2004, 02:09
Does it count if you spent most of your childhood in England and developed an English accent but lost it when you came back to the states and dislike the French?

Erm, Jesus was born in a barn but it didn't make him a donkey :p!

What nation likes the French then? lol

I think we can make an acception just for you!!!!!!
L-rouge
20-10-2004, 02:14
Because it sees England as regions assuming regionalisation has already happened, and I don't like that. Which leads me to believe that regionalisation is the first step to entry to the EU, and why I believe Prescott has specificly picked out the NE only to vote on regionalisation (by using postal voting, even though he dropped other regions because of accusations of corruption). I also hate the term "pooling sovreignty", British Law which doesn't comply with EU Law has to be changed, I also believe the EU wrongfuly sees itself as a soon-to-be nation; take the Olympics for example or England rugby triumph. Britain would also not recieve what it gives in subsidies and it's constant playing of the EU national anthem. Our currency is strong, we don't need to adopt the Euro, which I've heard could fall due to China's rapid growth. I read that France and Italy have over 400 violations but the EU could be taking Britain to court over tourists taking back cheap booze; It seems as if we are being targeted specifically, maybe I'm bias.

Too many socialists run the EU, which might be why it is viewed as so paternalistic, with emphasis on social welfare constantly. Which isn't neccessarily bad but our current New Labour government is already obsessed with endless amounts of civil servants, legislations of ideals about how we should live about lives and bureaucracy.

It sells itself as anti-American, the soon to be rival power. . .

I don't see how it can justify the English Rugby World Cup victory as a victory for Europe.

The EU is whoring out the fisheries.

There are also Mr. Browns 5 economic tests to take into consideration. Have you seen the article where Blair is to have allegedly tride to bribe Brown into agreeing to sign up to the EU if he was to step down for a third term. Brown apparently said no because it wasn't in the best interests of Britain yet.

I've heard a lot of complaints from France about Britain getting a lot their way however which is positive, but would we be able to pull out? Especially after a Belgium nationalist party got banned for "being against the interests of the EU". If Britain was set to dominate I also don't like nations such as France, Germany and Belgium trying to create a "core" pack, as if to say other nations are subordinate. The introduction of Turkey also doesn't appeal to me, it seems that cultural reasons for joining the EU are void because of this, and rumours of in 30-40 years the EU expanding outside the EU to the middle east like Libya. . . it seems like a Federalist dream. . . in which case why would we need national Parliaments in the future? I believe national identity is important, with regionalisation supposedly taking care of our local needs, and the EU dominating our national needs (like French MPS etc no) it seems a bit strange.

Blair wants us to be at the heart of EU decision making, so why has the EU reduced the number of seats we can elect MEPs into? It's bullshit. Pro-devolution and Pro-EU doesn't make any sense.

I don't know if I've missed much, I have a headache.
One question, you've made up your mind on this issue and I'm not going to argue to try and change it, suffice to say we disagree on many points but thankyou for answering, but why do you keep refering to the EU as if we aren't already in it? We've been there for many years now, why continue to act like it isn't so?
Indiru
20-10-2004, 02:17
Erm, Jesus was born in a barn but it didn't make him a donkey :p!

What nation likes the French then? lol

I think we can make an acception just for you!!!!!!

Oh come on, I am so there. My favorite kind of comedy is Monty Python for cryin' out loud!

Not that I'm not proud of being American, but at times I'm more British.
L-rouge
20-10-2004, 02:21
Oh come on, I am so there. My favorite kind of comedy is Monty Python for cryin' out loud!

Not that I'm not proud of being American, but at times I'm more British.
Good to hear you've got a good sense of humour.
Now wheres that annoying stiff upper lip look down on johnny foreigner everyone keeps telling us we have?
English Saxons
20-10-2004, 02:27
One question, you've made up your mind on this issue and I'm not going to argue to try and change it, suffice to say we disagree on many points but thankyou for answering, but why do you keep refering to the EU as if we aren't already in it? We've been there for many years now, why continue to act like it isn't so?

I want us to leave the EU.

With the Browns economic tests, that would be the EU currency I think I meant to refer too.

There's also that new constitution they've drawn up. If we don't sign, we wont be in (as far as I'm aware).

Good to hear you've got a good sense of humour.
Now wheres that annoying stiff upper lip look down on johnny foreigner everyone keeps telling us we have?

We do have it though. . . don't we :p?

Holy Grail is great by Monty Python.
Indiru
20-10-2004, 02:30
I want us to leave the EU.

With the Browns economic tests, that would be the EU currency I think I meant to refer too.

There's also that new constitution they've drawn up. If we don't sign, we wont be in (as far as I'm aware).



We do have it though. . . don't we :p?

Holy Grail is great by Monty Python.

Life of Brian was the uber best.

"Yes! We're all individuals!"

"I'm not"

"Oh yeah, 'cept for him."

Always look on the bright side of life...doo doo doo doo dee doo dee doo...
English Saxons
20-10-2004, 02:32
Life of Brian was the uber best.

"Yes! We're all individuals!"

"I'm not"

"Oh yeah, 'cept for him."

Always look on the bright side of life...doo doo doo doo dee doo dee doo...

:eek:
The DHaran Empire
20-10-2004, 11:06
I for one have a little English blood but not enough to say anything about... But i really like this discussion is interests me. I have traveled to Europe mainly Germany and Itally ( never made it to England:( pity really) And i was able to talk to a lot of people about the EU. It seems a lot of people from those two countries dont like the EU or just the ones that i was able to talk to! If so many people are against this organization then why is your politicians supporting it? is it because France lusts to be the counter power to the US and will do anything it can to become that counter power even if it has to share its glory with 25 other nations? I was there in Germany when you guys had your EU elections and it seemed to me people were quite pissed off. Voting in mostly anti EU people into office. I for one am against the EU not because of what it can or may become but because Europe to me was never meant to be ruled under one banner and the last time that ever happened was the Roman Empire. To me the EU could turn into the next World War III. With all that i am hearing a lot of people are pissed off already and to me the EU hangs by a thread. Whats to say when that thread fails? Where will the USA find itself? (hopefully on the side of Britain)
Torching Witches
20-10-2004, 11:33
I for one have a little English blood but not enough to say anything about... But i really like this discussion is interests me. I have traveled to Europe mainly Germany and Itally ( never made it to England:( pity really) And i was able to talk to a lot of people about the EU. It seems a lot of people from those two countries dont like the EU or just the ones that i was able to talk to! If so many people are against this organization then why is your politicians supporting it? is it because France lusts to be the counter power to the US and will do anything it can to become that counter power even if it has to share its glory with 25 other nations? I was there in Germany when you guys had your EU elections and it seemed to me people were quite pissed off. Voting in mostly anti EU people into office. I for one am against the EU not because of what it can or may become but because Europe to me was never meant to be ruled under one banner and the last time that ever happened was the Roman Empire. To me the EU could turn into the next World War III. With all that i am hearing a lot of people are pissed off already and to me the EU hangs by a thread. Whats to say when that thread fails? Where will the USA find itself? (hopefully on the side of Britain)

It's not that the EU is a bad idea (although a lot of people are against the principle) - more that it's a bureaucratic mess. What have you got against France? Do you not think that other countries are part of it because they haven't quite go over the fact they're not as powerful as they used to be either?
Independent Homesteads
20-10-2004, 12:05
Did you ever hear anyone say anything equivalent to "Yay Yay UK All the Way"? The only people who really go on about being british are the northern ireland loyalists and frankly I'd be rid of them as soon as I could.

I like the EU. It struck me recently though, what with all the US pres election, floridian practices etc, that if there ever was an EU pres, we'd be voting in the same election as Italy.
Independent Homesteads
20-10-2004, 12:10
btw - is English Saxons called English Saxons to distinguish itself from Saxon Saxons (who are from Saxony, in Germany)? Or is it to distinguish itself from english romans, english celts, english angles, english britons, english normans, english danes, english afro-caribbeans, english bengalis, english panjabis, english flemish, english welsh, englsih scots, etc etc etc?
Daroth
20-10-2004, 12:23
btw - is English Saxons called English Saxons to distinguish itself from Saxon Saxons (who are from Saxony, in Germany)? Or is it to distinguish itself from english romans, english celts, english angles, english britons, english normans, english danes, english afro-caribbeans, english bengalis, english panjabis, english flemish, english welsh, englsih scots, etc etc etc?

he probably wanted to call himself anglo-saxon, but that names taken i beleive.

another brit over here (waves)
Checnya
20-10-2004, 12:25
from south of ye ol london town :mp5:
Nulands
20-10-2004, 12:27
i happen to live in the UK at present.
World wide allies
20-10-2004, 12:30
North London Represent !.

London, England.

As usual, its raining. Again.
Nulands
20-10-2004, 12:34
I want us to leave the EU.

With the Browns economic tests, that would be the EU currency I think I meant to refer too.

There's also that new constitution they've drawn up. If we don't sign, we wont be in (as far as I'm aware).


i'm really surprised the EU will still have us.
they should leave UK to be some pissy little island,
with no chance of trading on the continent
and being forced to change currency every time we want to go elsewhere,
as that's what most people seem to want...

(or is that a very loud minority i can hear... UKIP anyone)
Drahcir Yelram
20-10-2004, 12:44
The whole worlds gone mad the british empire was once the greatest in the world and slowly but surely we gave it all back. Just goes to show we get some seriously retarted people into power. These days without our allies (America) we would be almost helpless due to constant cutbacks our Air Force is dwindling along with the navy so although we seem to help everyone else out almost our entire armed forces are under other peoples control ie: UN, NATO And the bloody americans who (to be honest) shoulndt need our help on a military scale they just wanted someone on their side!
Nulands
20-10-2004, 12:51
The whole worlds gone mad the british empire was once the greatest in the world and slowly but surely we gave it all back. Just goes to show we get some seriously retarted people into power.

looking at it another way, some people with a bit more sense of decency...
The Abomination
20-10-2004, 13:00
West side of London, here.

True blood brit if ever there was one - 50% welsh, 25% scottish and the rest no-one in particular wants to lay claim to so I just call it 'and the rest'.

With regards to an earlier debate - British empire did own 25% of the land territories in the world. We also owned 100% of the sea. So, with the sea taking up 75% of the earths surface + 25% of 25% of the earths landmass....

Aww hell, lets just say we had 0wnag3 and leave it at that.

So anyway, who's with me on an attempt to rebuild the glory of the Empire and bring peace, civilisation and prosperity to those unfortunate foreigners (Americans in particular)?
The Imperial Navy
20-10-2004, 13:04
I'm 25% welsh and 75% English. That makes me 100% British.

But I guess in reality I'm Wanglish.
The DHaran Empire
20-10-2004, 18:30
West side of London, here.

True blood brit if ever there was one - 50% welsh, 25% scottish and the rest no-one in particular wants to lay claim to so I just call it 'and the rest'.

With regards to an earlier debate - British empire did own 25% of the land territories in the world. We also owned 100% of the sea. So, with the sea taking up 75% of the earths surface + 25% of 25% of the earths landmass....

Aww hell, lets just say we had 0wnag3 and leave it at that.

So anyway, who's with me on an attempt to rebuild the glory of the Empire and bring peace, civilisation and prosperity to those unfortunate foreigners (Americans in particular)?



I dont think so!!! Need i remind you that the US has the biggest economy and armed forces in the world I hardly think we need to be conquered and prosperity brought to us! no offense. And as for the French I dislike them because they have not won a war since Napolean and we all know how that turned out. Also France has gotten us (the USA) into major crap in the world... WW1, WW2, Vietnam war, ect., ect. The only thing the French are good for is hosting invasions! And it is sad to hear that the Brits are downsizing your military.:( And we do need your help militarily. i guess the other person was talking about Iraq? To me i would like to see the US and Britain become better allies and work more closely together. seeing as how we are related arent we? And i do think that Britain giving up its overseas Empire was the decent thing to do... just wish the French we as decent but i wont hold my breath for that one!
The Abomination
20-10-2004, 18:45
Ya wanna know a funny fact about Napoleon? He wasn't French at all. He was actually Corsican (an island off the coast of France). Corsicans are about as French as the Irish are English. Yet another fact - he first tried to join the British Army, but was turned down because of his height.

Heh... the greatest Frenchman wasn't even french.

I hardly think we need to be conquered and prosperity brought to us!

So... I guess you do need the peace and civilisation then? :cool:

Nah, I'm kidding - love the Americans, especially ones that have read Wizards First Rule :)
Conceptualists
20-10-2004, 20:17
Half Dutch, half Irish. But I have lived in Britain all my life so I see myself as British.
Ying Yang Yong
21-10-2004, 00:36
I want us to leave the EU.

With the Browns economic tests, that would be the EU currency I think I meant to refer too.

There's also that new constitution they've drawn up. If we don't sign, we wont be in (as far as I'm aware).



We do have it though. . . don't we :p?

Holy Grail is great by Monty Python.


Hello. *waves* Little Brit from the bottom end of the country here! Kernow bes...Down you Cornish revolutionaries down I say! English heritage! (Does anyone know what I'm talking about?) :D

Now, EU constitution. We don't sign up we won't be in? It's not a sign up it's a vote in favour if enough EU countries vote in favour we will be in. And we need to get in properly and co-operate in the drawing up of the constitution otherwise we'll have stuff in there we don't want. The best way for us to go about this would be to join a bloc with the new Baltic bloc who look to us more frequently than the French and Germans for how to act. (Generalisation I know). As such we may be able to at least partially gain a bit more say.

As to those who say it's not important and we should just pull out of the EU all together just think of all the trade opportunities we'll lose, the advantages we gain through joint European co-operation in such things as the Space programme. Not to mention the money we get given by the EU to regenerate areas of the country such as Wales and Cornwall; money which would not be spent in those areas by national government.

But yay Monty Python! Great stuff!
The DHaran Empire
21-10-2004, 08:11
Nah, I'm kidding - love the Americans, especially ones that have read Wizards First Rule :)[/QUOTE]

Of course!!! One of the greatest series ever written!!! Besides that of the Lord of the Rings! Which i think JRR Tolkien was English wasnt he? I think Terry Goodkind is American but I am not sure about that one :confused: ... And of course you have to love us Americans!! :D
Snake Eaters
21-10-2004, 16:28
*Jumps around madly, attempting to gain attention* Yes, I'm from good ole' Britain, and two fingers to those who dont like us (most of the known world then)
Kybernetia
21-10-2004, 17:07
Now, EU constitution. We don't sign up we won't be in? It's not a sign up it's a vote in favour if enough EU countries vote in favour we will be in. And we need to get in properly and co-operate in the drawing up of the constitution otherwise we'll have stuff in there we don't want. The best way for us to go about this would be to join a bloc with the new Baltic bloc who look to us more frequently than the French and Germans for how to act. (Generalisation I know). As such we may be able to at least partially gain a bit more say.
Well: Germany was a great supporter of the Eastern enlargement of the EU - like the UK - due to economic considerations. The Federal Republic is the biggest trading partner and investor in most of the new member countries.
However in security policy those countries are closer to the US - also in order to get the US to station troops on their territory as a security assurance against Russia.
As to other interests: The new members have of course interests to get more money out of the EU. In that respect - payment - the UK is the most reluctant in the group of the richer EU countries and that is not going to change. In the discussion about EU fiscal policy the UK, Sweden, Germany and others have signed a joint letter in which they stress that they demand the EU to limmit its budget to 1% of the GDP of the EU countries. That is rejected by the new members and by the south Europeans (who are currently fighting for their subsidies). However the paymasters in the north, centre and west of Europe don´t want to pay more. And in the case of the Federal Republic it needs to be said that it is not able to pay more since it is in a simular situation than Britain in the end of the 1970s - a deep structural crisis, high deficits and at the begining of a difficult and long reform process. Aside of the fact that it is spending 4% of its GDP for the reconstruction of East Germany.
The crisis of Germany is of course weakening the EU as a whole.
And it is leading up to a situation where the main payer is not willing to give more while there are new members who want more. So, we are going to see in the next years more confrontation in Europe. And when it comes to payment the British interests are not lying with Poland or the three baltic states but with the other main payers - Sweden, the Netherlands and Germany.
Gothmouge
21-10-2004, 17:17
You Brits are SOOO cute!
Just like little Americans with curry breath!
Snake Eaters
21-10-2004, 21:45
Ha hardy ha. Imm laughin so hard i think my sides have split. In case you dont understand my humour, i ws being sarcastic *mutters under breath* American idoit, president with an IQ of 92, below human average...*descends into undeciphrable muttering*
Clonetopia
21-10-2004, 21:48
English here.
Cyber Duck
21-10-2004, 22:01
You Brits are SOOO cute!

I know...
Sploddygloop
21-10-2004, 22:10
And now all you are left with is us feckers in Northern Ireland.
And don't we wish we weren't.

If only we could saw Liverpool off and float it over to join you then dismiss the lot of you!
Sploddygloop
21-10-2004, 22:13
Yes... it's been lovely weather lately. The rain has been almost warm.Not here in the Slopshire, just to the left of the Wet Mudlands it isn't. Mostly hail and wind today.
Sploddygloop
21-10-2004, 22:14
UKIP anyone)
Wot, with the Mahoganistas trying to take over?
Daroth
22-10-2004, 09:30
North London Represent !.

London, England.

As usual, its raining. Again.

yeah? what part?
HyperionCentauri
22-10-2004, 09:31
Me Is Brit
Daroth
22-10-2004, 09:43
You Brits are SOOO cute!
Just like little Americans with common sense!

why thank you
Oscarina
22-10-2004, 10:07
yup, brit here...

i'm a londoner (don't mention my proximity to essex!) originally, but at the moment i'm in oxford at university.

and i vote green / lib dem.

and in my whole entire life i have only met about 3 openly tory voters.

how are you all today?
Nebbyland
22-10-2004, 10:17
Brit here, Twickenham lad born and bred.
Snake Eaters
22-10-2004, 11:07
Brit here, Twickenham lad born and bred.
Twickenham! My favourite place, except Franklins Gardens
NianNorth
22-10-2004, 13:34
Northumberland here!
Was once The Kingdom of Northumbria. Love the geography, the history, most of the people but hate the politics and the crap taxes etc and the new nanny/dictator state.
Dalradia
22-10-2004, 15:41
Scottish-British, been living in the NE England for the past three years.
Fabarce
22-10-2004, 16:06
Manchester representative here. :D It's a better city than yours.
Schnappslant
25-10-2004, 12:49
You Brits are SOOO cute!
Just like little Americans with curry breath!
Actually our breath is made up of a combination of curry, ale, bad belgian lager, instant coffee, sunny delight and nicotine.
Zeldron
25-10-2004, 13:07
:: I'm a Londoner... and I think London's... great!
I feel it when I ride the Jubilee, off to Wembley, or down at the Tate!
I get a funny feeling inside of me from Wanstead to Whitehall
So maybe it's because I'm a Londoner that she's my Capital

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner that I love London's style
Could it be that the people you meet in her, on every street in her, that gives her smile
Every time I travel so far away, I always hear her call (hey Johnny)
So maybe it's because I'm a Londoner that I've joined Capital ::
- From the Capital FM Ad ^^
Zeldron
25-10-2004, 13:13
The thing I love about Britain is the way they're so open. Like the other day, I was walking home and this guy in his car scrolled down his window to a guy who wasn't using his brakes, so he shouted out "OI! YOU TOSSER!" or something along those lines. The atmosphere is pretty good too. :)

Political-wise, the only person I feel sorry for is the Queen. Right now, Tony Blair is being a right plonker and then there's rumours that her son has cheated on his Art A-Levels and now he's out binge drinking (I think). Interesting newspaper headline though - Harry Pothead :p
LinkinParker
25-10-2004, 13:19
*raises hand* i'm British

btw we're BritISH.
Are we not 100% British, or just unsure? :confused:
Friend Computer
25-10-2004, 13:54
I'm in West London.
Have been for quite a while.
Had a bomb go off in the shopping centre not too long ago.
Small bit of excitement.
No-one died, though.
Arthurs Camalot
25-10-2004, 13:58
Rises head and says i am british

well my dads side of the family is 25% irish and 25% welsh and my moms side is 30% english and 10% scotlish and and 10% spanish i am ment to be related to there royel family somewhere but i not sure

anywhy i think we should join the EU 1 reason the amout of problems we have had in Europe has had Britan and allys in that time period are the ones that sort out the problems

1:Napoleon British-Russian Allys i no don't say a word about this there was another couple of allys but i forgot them
2:WW1 British-American-French-Russian, Russia i am not too sure about
3:WW2 British-American-French-Russian, i am sure there was othere allys but i can't rember them

Europe need a right good punch in the face and say shut the fuck up and work togethor and make a positive diffrence just look at the U.S.A they settled there diffrences by being united and look at them now there have a world say,Power,Respect, and should i go on just imajin what we could do if we did it

Ps: soz about spelling and history leason which was crap lol :p
LinkinParker
25-10-2004, 14:06
the U.S.A they settled there diffrences by being united and look at them now there have a world say,Power,Respect, and should i go on just imajin what we could do if we did it
The U.S.A have George Bush. :D
Shaed
25-10-2004, 14:43
Eeee! Eeee! British goodness!

Oh wait, I should stop that or everyone will think I'm insane... -er. Not my fault I'm so easily excited.... bah.

I was *four* months off being English. *Four*. But nooooooo. My parents decided to leave London and move to *Australia*, of all places.

I short, the universe hates me.

*Seethes*.

'm half Irish though (give or take; some Welsh and Scottish in there too), so I guess that sort of makes up for it.

And I really need to stop reading these threads... they excite me far too much. It's actually rather worrying...

:p
Schnappslant
25-10-2004, 14:53
I was *four* months off being English. *Four*. But nooooooo. My parents decided to leave London and move to *Australia*, of all places.

I short, the universe hates me.

*Seethes*.

I'm half Irish though (give or take; some Welsh and Scottish in there too), so I guess that sort of makes up for it.
Australian huh? Permanent Sunshine, surf bigger than 2 feet, ridiculous amounts of hot women and no Tony Blair. I feel so sorry for you.
*Counter Seethes*
Shaed
25-10-2004, 14:59
Australian huh? Permanent Sunshine, surf bigger than 2 feet, ridiculous amounts of hot women and no Tony Blair. I feel so sorry for you.
*Counter Seethes*

Heh, well, there's certainly a deplorable lack of good accents here (at least in the places I frequent). And the hot women don't help me out much, being straight as I am.

Dunno about permenant sunshine... maybe further north. Melbourne tends to randomly shift between sunny and rainy.

And Tony Blair and John Howard are entirely interchangable. Heck, at least Blair has an accent and doesn't look like a frog of some sort.
Snake Eaters
25-10-2004, 15:10
Heh, well, there's certainly a deplorable lack of good accents here (at least in the places I frequent). And the hot women don't help me out much, being straight as I am.

Dunno about permenant sunshine... maybe further north. Melbourne tends to randomly shift between sunny and rainy.

And Tony Blair and John Howard are entirely interchangable. Heck, at least Blair has an accent and doesn't look like a frog of some sort.

Thts true about Tony Blair, but at least John Howard doesn't rim lick George W. Bush at every opportunity!
Shaed
25-10-2004, 15:15
Thts true about Tony Blair, but at least John Howard doesn't rim lick George W. Bush at every opportunity!

Oh, I wouldn't be too quick to say that. Jonny seems to be quite, quite enthralled with Bush, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if...

And I'm going to stop that thought now before I scar my brain.
Communist Cows
25-10-2004, 15:16
EN-GER-LAND!!!! (clears throat)Quite.
I'm near Hull, in a village called Little Weighton. There are only about 300 houses here. Tis very small
The British r pretty stupid as well, I mean who else would send all their criminals to one of the greatest places in the world (Australia).
I wish i was a convict in the 19th century. :headbang:
Snake Eaters
25-10-2004, 16:00
Oh, I wouldn't be too quick to say that. Jonny seems to be quite, quite enthralled with Bush, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if...

And I'm going to stop that thought now before I scar my brain.

Yes, lets do stop there. Anyway, England rules in comparision to Australia (Jonny Wilkinson, Drop-goal, 20-17 ring any bells?)
Shaed
25-10-2004, 16:08
Yes, lets do stop there. Anyway, England rules in comparision to Australia (Jonny Wilkinson, Drop-goal, 20-17 ring any bells?)

:D

No need to convince me (*is a raving Anglophile anyway*)
The Tribes Of Longton
25-10-2004, 20:09
I'm American, and I DO know what electrisity is.
It's the thing that makes my computer turn on. (and my x-box, my tv, and my electric guitar)
I think the average American probably does know what electrisity is, or at least what it's for.

I do know what powers a teapot, and I know how to make tea. (strangly enough, I don't know how to make coffee.... but that's ok. There are like Starbucks at every corner here..... so if I ever start liking coffee I can just go buy it)
I'm taking Chemistry this year so I have a feeling I will know what electrisity really is pretty soon.

Of course you know what electricity is, dear, that's why you spell it so well
Schnappslant
26-10-2004, 11:06
Yes, lets do stop there. Anyway, England rules in comparision to Australia (Jonny Wilkinson, Drop-goal, 20-17 ring any bells?)
I can't remember that now.. oh wait with the World Cup and the 'You'll never beat us Aussies' and the 'you play boring rugby' oh yes. How could I forget the Aussies getting stuffed on their own turf? Terrible. And the poor referee.. giving Oz those consolation tries even after the string of knock-ons and great line-out throws. So charitable.

Bucklebury boy, LOTR ref? Know it's spelt Buckleberry? (or was that one taken) I have it on good authority that Americans do not know how to make tea. Hot tea at least. Mind you, uni coffee shop gave me a capp'no which was all of room temperature this morning, so there's stuff to catch up on here too.
Shaed
26-10-2004, 14:01
I can't remember that now.. oh wait with the World Cup and the 'You'll never beat us Aussies' and the 'you play boring rugby' oh yes. How could I forget the Aussies getting stuffed on their own turf? Terrible. And the poor referee.. giving Oz those consolation tries even after the string of knock-ons and great line-out throws. So charitable.

Bucklebury boy, LOTR ref? Know it's spelt Buckleberry? (or was that one taken) I have it on good authority that Americans do not know how to make tea. Hot tea at least. Mind you, uni coffee shop gave me a capp'no which was all of room temperature this morning, so there's stuff to catch up on here too.

My mum and grandma kept saying that after Australia lost (HA!). It is, I believe, a sign of being an incredibly bad loser. Luckily my dad ('nother England supporter) was in the house, or I think I would have had to kill my mum 'n' nan. Honestly, what did they expect, supporting *Australia* over *England*?

Heh, I'm such a raving Anglophile... it's rather worrying..........
Cyber Duck
30-10-2004, 11:01
Still officially(on this thread at least) the only South Westerner in England. Who needs London or Manchester when you've got Plymouth and Yeovil! :D
L-rouge
30-10-2004, 11:50
Still officially(on this thread at least) the only South Westerner in England. Who needs London or Manchester when you've got Plymouth and Yeovil! :D

Not the only South Westerner mate! I'm from (and still live in) Plymouth!

*sing song* "Pasty's and Cider, Pasty's and Cider!"