NationStates Jolt Archive


Horrible, yet perhaps alright.

New Granada
18-10-2004, 05:09
I have plans to start a small company that makes clothing out of a certain, special fabric.

This fabric is obrained by shearing a great many cats and making cloth out of their fur.

I think it would be profoundly soft stuff, and find a ready market among rich, "eccentric" (psychotic) and egomaniacial people.

The cats would be unharmed, as their fur would grow back (like a sheep's).
Incertonia
18-10-2004, 05:13
Will there be a problem with allergies?
Pepe Dominguez
18-10-2004, 05:13
I have plans to start a small company that makes clothing out of a certain, special fabric.

This fabric is obrained by shearing a great many cats and making cloth out of their fur.

I think it would be profoundly soft stuff, and find a ready market among rich, "eccentric" (psychotic) and egomaniacial people.

The cats would be unharmed, as their fur would grow back (like a sheep's).

Sheep are cheaper. (Say that 10x, fast.. :p )
Friggot
18-10-2004, 05:14
Ok. As your advisor i get 50% of the profit :D
Ashmoria
18-10-2004, 05:16
ahhh creepy

i suppose it could be like angora rabbit yarn. you would have to use long haired cats like persians or many breed a longer haired cat.

good luck with peta
New Granada
18-10-2004, 05:16
Sheep are cheaper. (Say that 10x, fast.. :p )

Indeed, but cats are much smaller, eat less, and sleep 16 hours a day.

And you can rent people's cats and shave them~!


And besides, by marketing to the wealthy you can charge a fortune.
New Granada
18-10-2004, 05:17
ahhh creepy

i suppose it could be like angora rabbit yarn. you would have to use long haired cats like persians or many breed a longer haired cat.

good luck with peta


I would keep a revolver in my cat hair sportcoat when I took it to the peta meetings.
Tuesday Heights
18-10-2004, 05:21
Have you... um... tried this, yet?
Foetallia
18-10-2004, 05:25
You know you can forget marketing this now that you've posted it in a public forum don't you? Unless you're really quick and really lucky, someone else is going to get the patent first.

But it does sound like a good idea man...
New Granada
18-10-2004, 07:49
You know you can forget marketing this now that you've posted it in a public forum don't you? Unless you're really quick and really lucky, someone else is going to get the patent first.

But it does sound like a good idea man...


What makes you think I haven't already patented it :)
Vacant Planets
18-10-2004, 07:58
The cats are too small, so you would have to get a large number of cats, and feed them and take care of them, wich is very expensive... seeing that they dont eat grass. So even though you would be selling cat fur, you would have to sell too expensive for it's own right just to pay for the cost of making it.

Now about your clients... lets say I am filthy rich, and I'm out on the market for coats. Why would I pick cat fur over tiger fur? I have the money to pay for tiger fur, a coat made of cat fur is for hobos, tiger is much more classy than cat, more practical, and more effective.

So, I guess you range of clients would be middle class, but most of them would go "Yuck, cat fur" before buying one of those.

So, the only people that wouldn't mind getting covered in cat fur would be the hobos, who would not have enough money to buy it.

So in the end you will be left with 0$ dollars and lots of cats in your backyard. I think making a chinese restaurant would be more effective.
Druthulhu
18-10-2004, 08:18
Tigers are cats.

What about hobo fur? :)
Mirkai
18-10-2004, 08:28
My idea is better.

My company's going to pay people to sign over the remains of their deceased loved ones to me. I'll then make them into a cheap, attractive alternative to leather for people who are concerned about the way cows are treated.
Random Explosions
18-10-2004, 09:18
My idea is better.

My company's going to pay people to sign over the remains of their deceased loved ones to me. I'll then make them into a cheap, attractive alternative to leather for people who are concerned about the way cows are treated.
It won't work. The human body doesn't have nearly enough skin on it for this to be at all practical (about 14-18 feet, on average).
I'm all for the cats, though. At last- fur that fights back!
Druthulhu
18-10-2004, 15:49
It won't work. The human body doesn't have nearly enough skin on it for this to be at all practical (about 14-18 feet, on average).
I'm all for the cats, though. At last- fur that fights back!

Surely the average human body has enough skin on it to cover the average human body?
Kanabia
18-10-2004, 15:53
Sheep are cheaper. (Say that 10x, fast.. :p )

Cheba-Cheba? AHAHAHAHA!

Good one. :D

It won't work. The human body doesn't have nearly enough skin on it for this to be at all practical (about 14-18 feet, on average).


What about for shoes? Boots? Gloves?
Utracia
18-10-2004, 15:55
I have plans to start a small company that makes clothing out of a certain, special fabric.

This fabric is obrained by shearing a great many cats and making cloth out of their fur.

I think it would be profoundly soft stuff, and find a ready market among rich, "eccentric" (psychotic) and egomaniacial people.

The cats would be unharmed, as their fur would grow back (like a sheep's).

Cat shearing? I don't suppose that everyone you've given this idea to broke out into hysterical laughter? I have two cats in my house and the idea of shaving their fur isn't something I want to think about anyway. I suppose that the average cat will stay still while you rid them of their fur? Unless you plan to restrain them. Must be indoor cats to so they won't freeze in winter... Unless you live in Florida?
J0eg0d
18-10-2004, 15:56
To use the fur as clothing the cats would have to be skinned.

At the end of 1998 the National Humane Society proved that at least 2 million dogs and cats are being slaughtered for their fur on a yearly base.

This happens mainly in China but also in other Asian countries.

Most of this fur is being exported to North America and Europe.

The Humane Society showed that cat and dog fur products are being sold in several American cloth shops or department stores. The outrage of this issue resulted in a legal ban on the trade of dog and cat fur in the United States.

The selling, making or transporting clothes, toys or other product made from dog or cat fur has become a criminal crime in the United States since November 1999.

This legal ban is the result of a successful campaign of the Humane Society from the United States (HSUS). Consequence is that more dog and cat fur will be transported to Europe. An extra reason not to buy any fur items.

A shocking report was shown on the German television in the end of 1998. The German reporter Manfred Karremann shows that thousands dogs and cats in China, Thailand and the Philippines become the victim of the fur industry every day.

The animals get caught from the streets or are being bred under severe circumstances. They are being slaughtered in a very gruesome way, being beaten up to death, stabbed to death or by strangling. Frequently they are skinned alive.

The fur of these animals is being traded all around the world, also in Europe.


The report shows several fur traders who admit, without any shame, that they transport dog and cat fur to several countries of Europe, including the Netherlands as well. Dog and cat fur have been found in coats, collars, hats, (cat) toys, and blankets.

The origin of this fur is hardly traceable. Logical, because the consumer would probably never buy any of these products if they knew that it is made from dog or cat fur. To make it even more indistinct the origin of this fur is veiled in names like Gae-wolf, wolf, or Asian and Chinese Wild Dog.

Obviously the origin of the products are not of interest for the fur industry.
Utracia
18-10-2004, 16:02
Anyone tries to kill my cat for its fur will surely regret it. The above does make sense since all other animals you hear about that you get fur from are always killed. Anyways I think the rich would prefer some exotic animal for a coat. Certainly more expensive with a touch of illegality.
The Reunited Yorkshire
18-10-2004, 16:17
I think anyone who is surprised that their 'wild dog' fur coat is made from feral dogs must be sadly lacking in the brains department...
New Granada
19-10-2004, 02:18
The cats are too small, so you would have to get a large number of cats, and feed them and take care of them, wich is very expensive... seeing that they dont eat grass. So even though you would be selling cat fur, you would have to sell too expensive for it's own right just to pay for the cost of making it.

Now about your clients... lets say I am filthy rich, and I'm out on the market for coats. Why would I pick cat fur over tiger fur? I have the money to pay for tiger fur, a coat made of cat fur is for hobos, tiger is much more classy than cat, more practical, and more effective.

So, I guess you range of clients would be middle class, but most of them would go "Yuck, cat fur" before buying one of those.

So, the only people that wouldn't mind getting covered in cat fur would be the hobos, who would not have enough money to buy it.

So in the end you will be left with 0$ dollars and lots of cats in your backyard. I think making a chinese restaurant would be more effective.


I must admit your connection between desire for a cat fur sportcoat (and i do not mean in the sense of a fur coat, but rather made of fabric spun of cat fur, like cashmere, but with cat fur) and being a hobo is spurious at best.

I am confident that the superior quality, softness, warmth and scarcity of cat fur fabric sweaters and blazers would justify astronomical prices.
New Granada
19-10-2004, 02:21
Cat shearing? I don't suppose that everyone you've given this idea to broke out into hysterical laughter? I have two cats in my house and the idea of shaving their fur isn't something I want to think about anyway. I suppose that the average cat will stay still while you rid them of their fur? Unless you plan to restrain them. Must be indoor cats to so they won't freeze in winter... Unless you live in Florida?


I have of course planned for that contingency (and i live in arizona, warmer than florida).

It is a difficult task but the cat can be restrained and not harmed.

The cat would be shorn in the wintertime when the fur was longest and densest.

sweater sort of things would then be put on the cats to ensure they were warm.

I enjoy cats immensely and was inspired with this idea while petting my black and white cat, admiring his soft fur and imagining the fine gray fabric it would make. And the softness of the fabric. Cashmere is soft like cats, but not *as* soft~!
New Granada
19-10-2004, 02:24
The selling, making or transporting clothes, toys or other product made from dog or cat fur has become a criminal crime in the United States since November 1999.



I will not commit a criminal crime.

The US government is notoriously corrupt and there is no chance it would stop me from producing fine cloth from the shorn fur of cats.
J0eg0d
19-10-2004, 02:26
Well, like I said you have to skin the animal to use the fur, you can't just shave off the hair and use it like stitching thread.
Druthulhu
19-10-2004, 06:46
"Hark!
"Hark!
"The dogs do bark!
"The Duke is fond of kittens!
"He likes to take their insides out and use their fur for mittens!"

- HKL3
The Commitee of One
Big Jim P
19-10-2004, 07:56
Rat fur: bodies of said rats fed to cats.

Cat fur: bodies of said cats fed to rats.

Infinite supply of soft fur.

*laughs himself silly*
Foetallia
19-10-2004, 08:05
Actually... now I think about it... it wouldn't work...

Sheep have wool not fur.

Cats have hair.

You can't make clothing out of hair unless you take the skin too.

This would, quite obviously, stop the cat producing anymore hair.
New Granada
19-10-2004, 08:34
Well, like I said you have to skin the animal to use the fur, you can't just shave off the hair and use it like stitching thread.


You are palpably wrong.

Sheep are not skinned. Neither are camels or cashmerians (I made that word up).
Jester III
19-10-2004, 08:52
I think it would be possible to make felt out of cat hair.
Demented Hamsters
19-10-2004, 16:04
Reminds me of an old business idea that circulates the 'net every so often:

The proposal is to develop a large cat ranch. While the underlying objective is to produce and market cat skins in commercial quantities to the haute couture fashion industry, there are a number of important economic flow-on effects and an important contribution to local employment. The initial concept is to commence a relatively small operation involving approximately 1 million cats. Since each cat averages a litter of approximately 12 kittens pa, total annual production would be some 12 million cats. Total revenue for cat skins is forecast to be in the vicinity of $144 million pa on the basis of $10 for quality white skins and up to $15 for quality black ones, with an average price of $12 per skin. Monthly revenues for the cat farm would average $12 million, or approximately $600,000 per day over a 20-day working month (ie, excluding weekends). Industry sources indicate that an experienced catman or catwoman is capable of skinning approximately 50 cats per day. A total of 12 million cats in the first year of operation will therefore generate employment for an estimated 1,000 people on the basis of 1 million cats processed per month or 50,000 cats per day for a 5-day working week. Using employment multipliers derived from National Accounts data and adopting a multiplier of approximately 3 (ie, for every 1 direct job involved in the process there are a further 2 jobs indirectly generated through the multiplier effect elsewhere in the economy), it is estimated that a further 2,000 jobs are created, bringing total employment generated by the development to 3,000 jobs, nationally. Most of the direct jobs (1,000) would be sourced locally, as well as a share of the indirect (or flow-on) jobs. The direct employment of 1,000 people at the plant would generate annual wages in the order of some $52 million pa, based on an average of $1,000 per worker per week (or $4 per skin). Gross profit AWBPPE (after wages but before property, plant & equipment costs) would be in the order of $92 million pa or 64% of gross sales, which is considerable for this type of operation.
Among important inputs to the commercial process are rats. These would constitute the main food source for the cats. Since rats multiply four times as quickly as cats, a rat ranch would be established adjacent to the cat ranch. Given the commencement stage involving 1 million cats plus 12 million off-spring harvested for skins each year, the operation will require a total of some 18,980 million rats on an annual basis, allowing for the average consumption of 4 rats per cat per day and allowing the offspring cats a pre-harvest lifespan of 12 months. A feature of the operation will be the sustainability of the process, with the rats fed on the carcasses of the cats which are processed each day. On this basis, each rat will be fed a share of a cat each day. Clearly, the operation is self-supporting and sustainable. The cats will eat the rats, the rats will eat the cats, the business venture will process and market the skins, and the local people will get the jobs
Planta Genestae
19-10-2004, 16:08
I have plans to start a small company that makes clothing out of a certain, special fabric.

This fabric is obrained by shearing a great many cats and making cloth out of their fur.

I think it would be profoundly soft stuff, and find a ready market among rich, "eccentric" (psychotic) and egomaniacial people.

The cats would be unharmed, as their fur would grow back (like a sheep's).

Mmmm. Sheep!
New Exodus
19-10-2004, 16:23
I have two wonderful orange tabbies, and I would like to see clothing made from shorn cat fur. My oldest cat (a two-year-old, short-hair) sheds enough fur in a year to make a nice cat-felt hat, so I imagine that long-hair breeds could be safely shorn and then either relocated to warmer climes or given some sort of sweater-type item to wear. I doubt the cats would take to it as readily as dogs do, but it still is an idea with merits.

Admittedly though, I would point out that the main reason cats are so comfortable to pet and curl up with is that they are living creatures. A coat made from their fur would not be as enjoyable as an actual cat, but it would still fetch a good price as semi-exotic clothing, or simply because it would be so soft and cheap.
Utracia
19-10-2004, 17:41
I have of course planned for that contingency (and i live in arizona, warmer than florida).

It is a difficult task but the cat can be restrained and not harmed.

The cat would be shorn in the wintertime when the fur was longest and densest.

sweater sort of things would then be put on the cats to ensure they were warm.

I enjoy cats immensely and was inspired with this idea while petting my black and white cat, admiring his soft fur and imagining the fine gray fabric it would make. And the softness of the fabric. Cashmere is soft like cats, but not *as* soft~!

I think having so many cats in one place will have them lose their cuteness pretting fast. Hundreds of cats would be needed at least to get any sort of profit and the incessent meowing would drive me bonkers in a short while. i don't suppose they would intermingle or be seperated? Each has different problems you know. MEOW! MEOW! MEOW! MEOW! MEOW! MEOW! MEOW!