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Stuff Michael Moore Lied about in F 9-11

Penguinista
17-10-2004, 07:31
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm (http://http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm)
Visitors2
17-10-2004, 07:33
your link don't work I keep getting another site.
Fugee-La
17-10-2004, 07:33
The page cannot be displayed

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Penguinista
17-10-2004, 07:34
grrrr....

Try copy and paste
Visitors2
17-10-2004, 07:38
grrrr....

Try copy and paste
yep, that worked.
CanuckHeaven
17-10-2004, 07:42
I guess by the time the election rolls around, many more Americans will have seen Fahrenheit 911, and I am sure the people will make up their own minds and then if they want to check up the FACTS behind the film then they can go here:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/

That should shoot down the other BS site that was posted.
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 07:45
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm (http://http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm)
Nice. Michael Moore lied about Microsoft.com...or at least that's where I go to when I click that link.

Oh, by the way, you do realize that the movie has been out long enough that it's already out of theaters so this has been discussed more than enough times...
Visitors2
17-10-2004, 07:47
Nice. Michael Moore lied about Microsoft.com...or at least that's where I go to when I click that link.

Oh, by the way, you do realize that the movie has been out long enough that it's already out of theaters so this has been discussed more than enough times...
you have to copy paste it.
Penguinista
17-10-2004, 07:50
Nice. Michael Moore lied about Microsoft.com...or at least that's where I go to when I click that link.

Oh, by the way, you do realize that the movie has been out long enough that it's already out of theaters so this has been discussed more than enough times...


Came up in another post, decided to be good and share :)
MunkeBrain
17-10-2004, 07:51
Only the blindly ignorant would believe Michael Moore.
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 07:54
Only the blindly ignorant would believe Michael Moore.
Only the blindly ignorant would believe www.ScaryJohnKerry.com
CanuckHeaven
17-10-2004, 07:55
Nice. Michael Moore lied about Microsoft.com...or at least that's where I go to when I click that link.

Oh, by the way, you do realize that the movie has been out long enough that it's already out of theaters so this has been discussed more than enough times...
However, it is out on DVD and at rental stores in the US. :D
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 07:56
Only the blindly ignorant would believe www.ScaryJohnKerry.com


cool site! thanks for posting the link so i can share it with my friends and co-workers
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 07:57
cool site! thanks for posting the link so i can share it with my friends and co-workers
Are they blindly ignorant?
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 07:58
Are they blindly ignorant?

no, actually they're well educated and quite intelligent. they're free thinkers and can see the forest for the trees... can you say the same of yourself? apparently not.
MunkeBrain
17-10-2004, 07:59
Are they blindly ignorant?
Apparently you are.
Penguinista
17-10-2004, 08:00
no, actually they're well educated and quite intelligent. they're free thinkers and can see the forest for the trees... can you say the same of yourself? apparently not.

I think he was making the point that only someone who was blindly ignorant would completely believe F 9-11 and need the site, not that they or you were stupid.

I think it says a lot for the Dems, having Moore in the Presidential box at the convention.
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 08:04
I think he was making the point that only someone who was blindly ignorant would completely believe F 9-11 and need the site, not that they or you were stupid.

I think it says a lot for the Dems, having Moore in the Presidential box at the convention.

here's another great site for you about Moore's deceptive practices that also documents how low he'll stoop to defame and destroy our country...

http://www.moorewatch.com

good stuff in there... nothing but he facts ma'am ;)
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 08:05
no, actually they're well educated and quite intelligent. they're free thinkers and can see the forest for the trees... can you say the same of yourself? apparently not.
Uh...I don't know what grounds you have to call me blindly ignorant, but believing most of the stuff at ScaryJohnKerry.com is plenty of evidence to accuse a person of blind ignorance.
Sussudio
17-10-2004, 08:10
Why does anyone care about Michael Moore, I'm a liberal, and agree with a lot of what he says, but will freely admit he is full of shit most of the time. Anyone who disputes that is naive, but anyone who really cares either way has their priorities really fucked up.
CanuckHeaven
17-10-2004, 08:14
here's another great site for you about Moore's deceptive practices that also documents how low he'll stoop to defame and destroy our country...

http://www.moorewatch.com

good stuff in there... nothing but he facts ma'am ;)
Want the FACTS? Try here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005JNEI/104-8956656-6083940?v=glance

Or here:

http://tradermike.net/store/music_video/fahrenheit_911_911_911_dvd_sale.php

Sit back and enjoy. :D
Demented Hamsters
17-10-2004, 08:14
cool site! thanks for posting the link so i can share it with my friends and co-workers
Wow! you have friends? I thought you were one of those obsessed loner types sitting unwashed, amongst a big pile of soldier of fortune magazines and more weapons than the average marine arms depot and finding conspiracies in everything.
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 08:16
Hmm, apparantly, the conservatives are missing my point. Let me lay it out clear, plain, and simply.

I don't agree with Michael Moore's distortion of the truth (I'd bring up the fact that there is limited truth to all of what he says, but that has nothing to do with this right now).

I agree with conservatives and some liberals that Moore is a propagandist and voters are probably better off not watching F9/11.

HOWEVER, I also believe that www.ScaryJohnKerry.com is not a slight bit better than Michael Moore, it's the same propaganda technique. This silly website owner simply doesn't have as much attention as Michael Moore does.

My only wish is that more conservatives would point the finger where the finger needs to point, even if it's on someone who is pro-Bush.



The deceptions at ScaryJohnKerry.com are just as bad, if not worse, than the deceptions that Michael Moore makes in his movie Fahrenheit 9/11. It is naive to believe that ScaryJohnKerry is more accurate and less propagandistic than Fahrenheit 9/11.
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 08:19
Wow! you have friends? I thought you were one of those obsessed loner types sitting unwashed, amongst a big pile of soldier of fortune magazines and more weapons than the average marine arms depot and finding conspiracies in everything.

Wow... you have over 700 posts in these forums since August... I have 200 since July... speak for yourself mongoloid. I'm not speaking of conspiracys, just the truth, which seems to elude you... and your ilk :rolleyes:
Penguinista
17-10-2004, 08:19
Hmm, apparantly, the conservatives are missing my point. Let me lay it out clear, plain, and simply.

I don't agree with Michael Moore's distortion of the truth (I'd bring up the fact that there is limited truth to all of what he says, but that has nothing to do with this right now).

I agree with conservatives and some liberals that Moore is a propagandist and voters are probably better off not watching F9/11.

HOWEVER, I also believe that www.ScaryJohnKerry.com is not a slight bit better than Michael Moore, it's the same propaganda technique. This silly website owner simply doesn't have as much attention as Michael Moore does.

My only wish is that more conservatives would point the finger where the finger needs to point, even if it's on someone who is pro-Bush.



The deceptions at ScaryJohnKerry.com are just as bad, if not worse, than the deceptions that Michael Moore makes in his movie Fahrenheit 9/11. It is naive to believe that ScaryJohnKerry is more accurate and less propagandistic than Fahrenheit 9/11.


I think you are the only one who has brought up scarryjohnkerry or whatever. If its that big a deal to you, stop talking about it, no one else is.
Penguinista
17-10-2004, 08:20
Wow... you have over 700 posts in these forums since August... I have 200 since July... speak for yourself mongoloid. I'm not speaking of conspiracys, just the truth, which seems to elude you... and your ilk :rolleyes:


Calm down. He's been reported. Just ignore him.
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 08:21
Hmm, apparantly, the conservatives are missing my point. Let me lay it out clear, plain, and simply.

I don't agree with Michael Moore's distortion of the truth (I'd bring up the fact that there is limited truth to all of what he says, but that has nothing to do with this right now).

I agree with conservatives and some liberals that Moore is a propagandist and voters are probably better off not watching F9/11.

HOWEVER, I also believe that www.ScaryJohnKerry.com is not a slight bit better than Michael Moore, it's the same propaganda technique. This silly website owner simply doesn't have as much attention as Michael Moore does.

My only wish is that more conservatives would point the finger where the finger needs to point, even if it's on someone who is pro-Bush.



The deceptions at ScaryJohnKerry.com are just as bad, if not worse, than the deceptions that Michael Moore makes in his movie Fahrenheit 9/11. It is naive to believe that ScaryJohnKerry is more accurate and less propagandistic than Fahrenheit 9/11.

Actually, www.scaryjohnkerry.com IS more accurate. And it certainly isn't "ontrack to make $600 million worldwide" by fraudulently seducing the gullible, the unintelligent, the illiterate, and the lazy :rolleyes:
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 08:22
I think you are the only one who has brought up scarryjohnkerry or whatever. If its that big a deal to you, stop talking about it, no one else is.
I'm just pointing out that their are propagandists on both sides, and I was wondering if any conservative would admit the obvious propaganda present at that website.
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 08:23
Actually, www.scaryjohnkerry.com IS more accurate.
...and I'm the one who's blindly ignorant...

And it certainly isn't "ontrack to make $600 million worldwide" by fraudulently seducing the gullible, the unintelligent, the illiterate, and the lazy :rolleyes:
What does that have to do with accuracy?
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 08:24
Wow... you have over 700 posts in these forums since August... I have 200 since July... speak for yourself mongoloid. I'm not speaking of conspiracys, just the truth, which seems to elude you... and your ilk :rolleyes:
I can't believe you just uses "mongoloid" as an insult...
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 08:29
I can't believe you just uses "mongoloid" as an insult...

"uses"?

yeah... sorry, i've been a bad boy today. one of those days :headbang:
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 08:30
"uses"?

yeah... sorry, i've been a bad boy today. one of those days :headbang:
Hmm...you make fun of my minor typo I made at 2:30 am after not even getting home til 4am last night...and completely ignore the fact that you used race as an insult...
MunkeBrain
17-10-2004, 08:32
I'm just pointing out that their are propagandists on both sides, and I was wondering if any conservative would admit the obvious propaganda present at that website.
Maybe conservatives don't need websites like moveon.org to give them their opinions.
CanuckHeaven
17-10-2004, 08:33
Wow! you have friends? I thought you were one of those obsessed loner types sitting unwashed, amongst a big pile of soldier of fortune magazines and more weapons than the average marine arms depot and finding conspiracies in everything.
Well, he has been kinda idle since 24-08-2004, 11:55 AM?

Perhaps he comes alive for the Michael Moore threads?
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 08:35
Hmm...you make fun of my minor typo I made at 2:30 am after not even getting home til 4am last night...and completely ignore the fact that you used race as an insult...

Give it a rest Opal... mongoloids aren't a race. They're unfortunate souls cursed with bad genes. I said sorry, and how the F*** am I supposed to know your schedule? Excuses are like rectums, everyone has one and they all stink :rolleyes:
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 08:37
Well, he has been kinda idle since 24-08-2004, 11:55 AM?

Perhaps he comes alive for the Michael Moore threads?

Nope... you lose. i've been busy having a life and stopped in for a quick dose of the liberal bubblegummers around here for entertainment purposes. thanks for playing. buhbye!
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 08:39
Maybe conservatives don't need websites like moveon.org to give them their opinions.
Hmm...while some people may get their opinions from moveon.org, I have never even visited that website.

Give it a rest Opal... mongoloids aren't a race. They're unfortunate souls cursed with bad genes. I said sorry, and how the F*** am I supposed to know your schedule? Excuses are like rectums, everyone has one and they all stink

1) The "s" key is right next to the "d" key, which what obviously the intended key. That's a minor typo that doesn't warrant comment at any hour...although seeing me typo is rather rare.

2) http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mongoloid <-- I think dictionary.com disagrees with you.


Anyway...you know how you can make up with me? Stop playing the uber-conservative role, tell the truth, and admit that scaryjohnkerry.com is full of propaganda (it may not be all propaganda, but the majority of it is).
CanuckHeaven
17-10-2004, 08:42
Nope... you lose. i've been busy having a life and stopped in for a quick dose of the liberal bubblegummers around here for entertainment purposes. thanks for playing. buhbye!
Actually I do think I will head off to bed. I find that when it gets late, the puppets start to congregate and I really don't like debating with the split personality types. :eek:
Meatopiaa
17-10-2004, 08:48
Hmm...while some people may get their opinions from moveon.org, I have never even visited that website.



1) The "s" key is right next to the "d" key, which what obviously the intended key. That's a minor typo that doesn't warrant comment at any hour...although seeing me typo is rather rare.

2) http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mongoloid <-- I think dictionary.com disagrees with you.


Anyway...you know how you can make up with me? Stop playing the uber-conservative role, tell the truth, and admit that scaryjohnkerry.com is full of propaganda (it may not be all propaganda, but the majority of it is).

Go visit it then, you may learn something useful.

1) Take some Pamprin, lighten up, and call me in the morning.

2) "3. also mongoloid Offensive. Of or relating to Down syndrome."

I have no interest in "making up with you". You may be ravenous for my beef-cake manliness, but I find nagging girls droll and not worth the trouble. The truth is, that website delivers truth using flash animations, big deal. Go get some sleep, you must need it since that's your primary excuse for your debilitating case of 'all thumbs'.

I'm outta here ... go ahead and get the last word, that's obviously what's driving you to carry on anyway.
Penguinista
17-10-2004, 08:48
Wow flame-fest 2004 over nothing
Goed
17-10-2004, 09:28
"democrats use propaganda, and so do republicans. Anyone who believes either of these doesn't use their brain."

"OH YEAH?! WELL YOU'RE AN INFERIOR RACE! BTW, person who made one fucking typo, Moore makes money...which means he's lying! HA!"



The logic here sometimes astounds me.

Oh, and "making up" means, basically, apologizing, admitting your wrong, and then doing something to make it seem better.

The phrase you're thinking of is "making out."




...Wow, jumping to making out from making up? Bragging about beefcake manliness? And lastly, outright terror at the thought of being gay?

Yeah, you're a bastion of hedrosexuality :rolleyes:

PS: the :rolleyes: means I'm being sarcastic.
Opal Isle
17-10-2004, 18:10
Go visit it then, you may learn something useful.

1) Take some Pamprin, lighten up, and call me in the morning.

2) "3. also mongoloid Offensive. Of or relating to Down syndrome."

I have no interest in "making up with you". You may be ravenous for my beef-cake manliness, but I find nagging girls droll and not worth the trouble. The truth is, that website delivers truth using flash animations, big deal. Go get some sleep, you must need it since that's your primary excuse for your debilitating case of 'all thumbs'.

I'm outta here ... go ahead and get the last word, that's obviously what's driving you to carry on anyway.
1) ...nevermind, not worth it, jackass.

2) So...you were insulting based on race, you were insulting based on medical condition. You enjoy poking fun at people in wheelchairs?


That website delivers the same amount of truth as Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11. I'm not looking for the last word; I'm looking for truth and honesty out of conservatives that think they have the higher moral ground when the truth is that there are Michael Moore counterparts on both sides of this election. Liberals admit it. Moderates like me admit it. Why can't conservatives admit it? I mean jesus, I'm not even bringing up the Swift Boat BS because from my position, I don't know who to believe, but I can tell you for sure that the stuff at www.ScaryJohnKerry.com is conservative propaganda, and it's up to you to make the conservative look like decent people by admitting I'm right.
Domici
17-10-2004, 18:49
Nice. Michael Moore lied about Microsoft.com...or at least that's where I go to when I click that link.

Oh, by the way, you do realize that the movie has been out long enough that it's already out of theaters so this has been discussed more than enough times...

Well, you can't expect a computer to handle a logical paradox like "truth" and "ann coulter" in the same context.
Santa- nita
18-10-2004, 08:28
just consider the source.
BackwoodsSquatches
18-10-2004, 09:00
I think that anyone who believes everything they see on www.MichealMoore.com is equally as stupid ther person who believes everything they read on www.whitehouse.gov
Penguinista
18-10-2004, 09:09
What the hell does any of this have to do with anything?
Freoria
18-10-2004, 09:14
What the hell does any of this have to do with anything?

This statement could be applied to the U.S. Campaign process for both sides so easily.