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Anti-Kerry Voters: What Will You Do If Kerry Wins the Election?

Tuesday Heights
16-10-2004, 02:03
Ok, seriously, what are all you anti-Kerry supporters - particularly those that constantly debate the validity of his Vietnam service... what are you going to do if he's elected?

Leave the country?
Continue to discredit and disrespect him?

What?

I'm just curious.
Schrandtopia
16-10-2004, 02:04
just be really dissapointed

and pray that it only lasts four years
Alinania
16-10-2004, 02:07
what all the anti-bush americans did from 2000 to 2004.
Greater Valia
16-10-2004, 02:08
Do what anybody would do when the opposition to their party gets elected... bitch about it, invent nonsense to discredit them and when election comes up again turn into a whining baby and fuss about how horrible and hellish the past four years have been and try to prevent them from getting relected.
Tuesday Heights
16-10-2004, 02:13
Do what anybody would do when the opposition to their party gets elected... bitch about it, invent nonsense to discredit them and when election comes up again turn into a whining baby and fuss about how horrible and hellish the past four years have been and try to prevent them from getting relected.

What if his four years - if he's elected - are actually good years and he turns out to be a good President?
Chodolo
16-10-2004, 02:14
What if his four years - if he's elected - are actually good years and he turns out to be a good President?

Bush supporters say that's happened for the past four years.

It's all completely subjective.
Greater Valia
16-10-2004, 02:18
What if his four years - if he's elected - are actually good years and he turns out to be a good President?

What I consider to be good decisions you may consider bad ones. Example, I happen to think the war on terrorism was a wise choice but many people think it wasnt. See my logic? Everything is subjective whereas Christians have no problem eating pork, but Jews and Muslims find it highly offensive. Are both sides right? Not nessicarily(sp?), in the end it all comes down to personal values and beliefs as to if policies, laws, etc. are good or bad.
Tuesday Heights
16-10-2004, 02:23
All right, Greater Valia, I think I'm following you; does that mean that you'll consider John Kerry a good President if he makes decisions favorable, once potentially in office, that are more along the lines of your beliefs?
Greater Valia
16-10-2004, 02:27
All right, Greater Valia, I think I'm following you; does that mean that you'll consider John Kerry a good President if he makes decisions favorable, once potentially in office, that are more along the lines of your beliefs?Yes, but I highly doubt it.
Tuesday Heights
16-10-2004, 02:36
Yes, but I highly doubt it.

Fair enough.
Domici
16-10-2004, 02:37
What if his four years - if he's elected - are actually good years and he turns out to be a good President?

The same thing they did when Clinton was in office. Accuse him of murdering his friends, smuggling drugs, and every crime under the sun until someone in the midwest looks up from chewing his cud to say "huh?" Then they'll try to get him impeached for it, and then they'll try to get him impeached for saying he didn't do it, then they'll say he was a lousy president for wasting all of this time defending himself from absurd accusations from republicans instead of running the country. Then they'll slyly point out that a republican wouldn't do that because they're above all of that political stuff over there in Washington and are really the party of the down-to-Earth gazillionaires that you could eat meatloaf and drink bear with provided you sign the loyalty oath and contribute ungodly amounts of money to the RNC in a way that is totaly unlike how Clinton accepted money for letting people sleep over at the White House.
The Atoli
16-10-2004, 02:47
oh yes the republicans are the richest men in the world... they hold all the money all the power in the economy.... mumbles except the media... movie stars... most the "artist"( singers ...groups.. and so on) the heinz fortune and other things.
all democrats are poor unnurtured ,malnurished,jobless, poor weak and need the big strong government to take care of them.... I think your whole topic was off kilter...


to answer your question.. if kerry wins I will pray the country does not get in more trouble and that in 4 years we can elect someone better hopefully a libertarian but I doubt it.

as for the comment about giving up and leaving that was actually an actress who said that if Bush wins this election
Chodolo
16-10-2004, 02:48
If Kerry loses, 2008 will probably be Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain. :D
Roach-Busters
16-10-2004, 02:51
Ok, seriously, what are all you anti-Kerry supporters - particularly those that constantly debate the validity of his Vietnam service... what are you going to do if he's elected?

Leave the country?
Continue to discredit and disrespect him?

What?

I'm just curious.

Drop to my knees, contort my face into an expression of agony, throw my head back and cradle it in my arms, wring my hands, and scream maniacally, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" Not that that means anything, because I'll do pretty much the same thing if Bush wins.
Roach-Busters
16-10-2004, 02:52
If Kerry loses, 2008 will probably be Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain. :D

Hillaroid vs. The Manchurian Candidate
Tyrandis
16-10-2004, 02:55
*is rabidly anti-collectivist*

I'd probably move to Australia.

I don't want to see the United States of America descend into a communist hell.
Voldavia
16-10-2004, 02:56
, seriously, what are all you anti-Kerry supporters - particularly those that constantly debate the validity of his Vietnam service... what are you going to do if he's elected?

Some of them will probably wonder how President Edwards will handle things.

Bush is at least lucky not to have a whole string of very spiteful, very well trained military vets hating him. Knowing the level of loyalty that a lot of military personnel have, the person some of them hate more than anyone else on earth (ie the ones who were tortured with his words..) becoming their commander-in-chief could be an interesting scenario.

I'd rather be in Bush's bodyguard detail personally :p
Roach-Busters
16-10-2004, 03:00
*is rabidly anti-collectivist*

I'd probably move to Australia.

I don't want to see the United States of America descend into a communist hell.

A little late for that. We've been heading that way ever since our second communist President, Woodrow Wilson, was elected President by Edward Mandell House.
BastardSword
16-10-2004, 03:02
Some of them will probably wonder how President Edwards will handle things.

Bush is at least lucky not to have a whole string of very spiteful, very well trained military vets hating him. Knowing the level of loyalty that a lot of military personnel have, the person some of them hate more than anyone else on earth (ie the ones who were tortured with his words..) becoming their commander-in-chief could be an interesting scenario.

I'd rather be in Bush's bodyguard detail personally :p
Military Vets are also taught to respect the President if Kerry is President will they disregard their own teachings?
Original Oz
16-10-2004, 03:13
Ok, seriously, what are all you anti-Kerry supporters - particularly those that constantly debate the validity of his Vietnam service... what are you going to do if he's elected?

Leave the country?
Continue to discredit and disrespect him?

What?

I'm just curious.


If Kerry is elected it will be some of the best political entertainment for the international community. All those who voted for Kerry will be set upon by all those who voted against Bush. The democrats will self destruct. Look at the stats, Kerry doesn't have a mandate from his party beyond beating Bush.

Once that is done, he is dead meat. My bet is Hillary is waiting with a big stick for him to come home from his victory celebration and will clean house with him.

The Clintons were my first introduction to US politics in the early 90's. As an observer (Australian) it is hard to believe that someone that brilliant is gone from the scene. They just have to be waiting for a "crash and burn" Democrat President so Hillary can inject herself into the mess.

Even some of your more liberal papers are starting to lay the groundwork for future criticism of Kerry.

Kerry is the sacrificial lamb who will want to micro manage the Presidency and himself to an early grave. While the predators in his party gather for the kill.
Matoya
16-10-2004, 03:20
Ok, seriously, what are all you anti-Kerry supporters - particularly those that constantly debate the validity of his Vietnam service... what are you going to do if he's elected?

Leave the country?
Continue to discredit and disrespect him?

What?

I'm just curious.

I'd say "Oh well, it's a shame, but I'll live." I don't care that much. I really think both candidates are worthy to be in office.

Btw, no one really leaves the country. They're just being drama queens.
BastardSword
16-10-2004, 03:25
If Kerry is elected it will be some of the best political entertainment for the international community. All those who voted for Kerry will be set upon by all those who voted against Bush. The democrats will self destruct. Look at the stats, Kerry doesn't have a mandate from his party beyond beating Bush.

Once that is done, he is dead meat. My bet is Hillary is waiting with a big stick for him to come home from his victory celebration and will clean house with him.

The Clintons were my first introduction to US politics in the early 90's. As an observer (Australian) it is hard to believe that someone that brilliant is gone from the scene. They just have to be waiting for a "crash and burn" Democrat President so Hillary can inject herself into the mess.

Even some of your more liberal papers are starting to lay the groundwork for future criticism of Kerry.

Kerry is the sacrificial lamb who will want to micro manage the Presidency and himself to an early grave. While the predators in his party gather for the kill.

Actually most Democrats are united for Kerry, but some Republicans are self-destructing. They all say come 2008 its a big fight. At leaast during REoublican cinvention they said.
Asssassins
16-10-2004, 05:12
Probably join the local militia.

Get some training on how to fight terrorism in one's homeland.

Freely hand out money to people who are to lazy to work, and call it charitable contribuitions.

If there is a free America left, wonder who will be running in the 08 elections.
Panhandlia
16-10-2004, 05:15
Ok, seriously, what are all you anti-Kerry supporters - particularly those that constantly debate the validity of his Vietnam service... what are you going to do if he's elected?

Leave the country?
Continue to discredit and disrespect him?

What?

I'm just curious.
Here's the deal.

The majority of those who are voting for Bush are doing so, not because they ARE against Kerry (except for many Vietnam Vets,) but BECAUSE they support Bush and what he stands for. They truly don't care that "Bush isn't Kerry."

Compare that with the majority of those who are voting for Kerry. They aren't voting FOR Kerry, but AGAINST Bush (i.e., they are anti-Bush.) Their main focus is "Kerry isn't Bush."

Think about it and you will see the difference.

That being said, in the odd case that Kerry wins (though McAuliffe and Co. are already laying the groundwork to complete the con job the Supreme Court stopped in 2000,) Nov 3rd will simply be another day, and Jan 20, 2005 will be the day I complete stocking my terror attack response kit.
Togarmah
16-10-2004, 05:28
What if his four years - if he's elected - are actually good years and he turns out to be a good President?


Yeah, but that'll only be because Bush put down such a solid foundation to build on.
Eutrusca
16-10-2004, 05:36
Exercise a discipline I learned from Buddist monks in Vietnam during the Thieu Presidency ... self-immolation! :D
Kecibukia
16-10-2004, 05:43
First, commence to much swearing.

Second (part 1), write to my representatives/senators as Kerry attempts to abolish the 2nd Amendment.

Second (part 2), write to my R/S to oppose Kerry's "plans" which IMHO will cause taxes and prices to skyrocket.
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-10-2004, 06:19
The same thing they did when Clinton was in office. Accuse him of murdering his friends, smuggling drugs, and every crime under the sun until someone in the midwest looks up from chewing his cud to say "huh?" Then they'll try to get him impeached for it, and then they'll try to get him impeached for saying he didn't do it, then they'll say he was a lousy president for wasting all of this time defending himself from absurd accusations from republicans instead of running the country. Then they'll slyly point out that a republican wouldn't do that because they're above all of that political stuff over there in Washington and are really the party of the down-to-Earth gazillionaires that you could eat meatloaf and drink bear with provided you sign the loyalty oath and contribute ungodly amounts of money to the RNC in a way that is totaly unlike how Clinton accepted money for letting people sleep over at the White House.
Hmmm . . . Is bear better than panther piss? :D
J0eg0d
16-10-2004, 06:20
It really doesn't matter which one of the two wins, the country will just keep going down the toilet until bipartisanship is broken.
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-10-2004, 06:21
If Kerry loses, 2008 will probably be Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain. :D
Now THAT would be a great race! They both have minds. :D
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-10-2004, 06:23
Drop to my knees, contort my face into an expression of agony, throw my head back and cradle it in my arms, wring my hands, and scream maniacally, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" Not that that means anything, because I'll do pretty much the same thing if Bush wins.
PIMPLMAO! Great comment!
Chodolo
16-10-2004, 06:24
I still can't believe they picked Bush over McCain in the GOP primaries in 2000. If they had went with McCain they would have uncontested control of the presidency for 8 years. Even Democrats don't mind McCain.

"black baby", hah. I was living in South Carolina when all that went down...politics are nasty, all right.
The Parthians
16-10-2004, 06:24
I'll probably take all my guns and run for the hills.
OnoSendai
16-10-2004, 06:27
The same thing they did when Clinton was in office. Accuse him of murdering his friends, smuggling drugs, and every crime under the sun until someone in the midwest looks up from chewing his cud to say "huh?" Then they'll try to get him impeached for it, and then they'll try to get him impeached for saying he didn't do it...

Um, Clinton was looked at because Vince Foster's body had been moved post-mortem. He was never seriously accused of killing him. No one accused him of running drugs. So far you are batting about .000.

Clinton was impeached for purgery to Congress during the Whitewater land scandal. NOT for boning his intern. That was what he lied about, but the charge was for lying to Congress. And, as a conservative, the worst move made in 8 long years. It spawned a good share of the tin-foil-hat anti-Bush types, and only served to make the next Republican President (post Clinton) have hell to deal with from the Dems in Congress.
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-10-2004, 06:31
Exercise a discipline I learned from Buddist monks in Vietnam during the Thieu Presidency ... self-immolation! :D
Now THAT would be a flame without a war!
OnoSendai
16-10-2004, 06:32
To answer the original question:

Become well known at my local gun shop.
Work my ass off for the Republicans in '08
Hope the US survives the next terrorist attack
...and the ones after that.
Eutrusca
16-10-2004, 06:33
Now THAT would be a flame without a war!

Yup. The Buddists are pacifists. :)
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-10-2004, 06:33
It really doesn't matter which one of the two wins, the country will just keep going down the toilet until bipartisanship is broken.
**SIGH** only in our dreams!
Chodolo
16-10-2004, 06:34
To answer the original question:

Hope the US survives the next terrorist attack
...and the ones after that.


Wouldn't that apply even if Bush is elected?

After all, he's the one who is constantly reminding us, "It is not a matter of if, but when".
Eutrusca
16-10-2004, 06:39
Wouldn't that apply even if Bush is elected?

After all, he's the one who is constantly reminding us, "It is not a matter of if, but when".

Actually, we shouldn't NEED to be reminded of that! :(
Penguinista
16-10-2004, 06:40
Move on, cover my ass and protect my paycheck as much as possible.
Mauiwowee
16-10-2004, 06:42
Move on, cover my ass and protect my paycheck as much as possible.

Ditto
OnoSendai
16-10-2004, 06:43
Wouldn't that apply even if Bush is elected?

After all, he's the one who is constantly reminding us, "It is not a matter of if, but when".

Yes, among others.

The opinion of many in the business (FBI, CIA, etc) was that a terror attack on US soil was always a matter of 'when' not 'if'. How and where was debated, never if it would happen.

Given the success of the opposition in diverting Spain's elections to the appeasment party, I would actually expect something in the next week or so here. Or at least another attempt.
Copiosa Scotia
16-10-2004, 06:52
I'll do the same thing I plan to do if Bush is elected: Wait through four more years of poor leadership and hope that someday, somehow a majority of the American public will realize that the system needs to be changed.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-10-2004, 06:53
We already know what Anti-Kerry people will do. We saw it against Clinton for eight years. :)
Chodolo
16-10-2004, 06:59
Yes, among others.

The opinion of many in the business (FBI, CIA, etc) was that a terror attack on US soil was always a matter of 'when' not 'if'. How and where was debated, never if it would happen.

Given the success of the opposition in diverting Spain's elections to the appeasment party, I would actually expect something in the next week or so here. Or at least another attempt.

Actually...it wouldn't work in America. A terrorist attack would hand the election to Bush by a landslide. The difference between Spain and USA? In Spain, the majority of the people were against the war, they didn't like being pulled into it, and when attacked, they voted for the prime minister who was gonna take them out of that conflict.

Now America, we're embroiled in this, we CAN'T just pull out, it's too late for that. The majority of Americans agree with that sentiment, though they may be against the war itself, they know it would do more harm to just pack up now. Plus, a terrorist attack in America would swell patriotism to 9/11 levels (during which Bush had 90% approval ratings). Kerry couldn't even try to criticise Bush, the Democrats would be emasculated into silence by such a tradgedy. It would literally be a landslide win for Bush.

Given that AlQueda has benefitted from Bush's aggressive foreign policies in Iraq (rising levels of Anti-Americanism, eager recruits, etc.) I wouldn't be surprised if they tried an attack right before the election with the aim of keeping Kerry from winning. The funny thing is, Americans would probably believe Osama wants Kerry to win! :p
America USSA
16-10-2004, 07:17
The only two reasons I'm voting for karry is because
1. Voting democrat allows a better chance for other parities to get in next election that are more favorable
and
2. Because the democratic socialists where not running this year.
Me and my friends know David McReynolds he ran in 2000... Very great man for the people and he will get my vote any time even if some lesser person puts a gun to my head

I know this is off topic a tad because i'd never vote bush but i'd rather not vote karry ether...

I'm going to fling these comments out regardless of the fact some people out there will object with a rage that rivals Adolf hitler but bush is a moronic texas chimpanzee and karry is a witless frankenstein monster
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-10-2004, 07:27
Yes, among others.

The opinion of many in the business (FBI, CIA, etc) was that a terror attack on US soil was always a matter of 'when' not 'if'. How and where was debated, never if it would happen.

Given the success of the opposition in diverting Spain's elections to the appeasment party, I would actually expect something in the next week or so here. Or at least another attempt.
Yanno, it could work in their favor if their goal is to have America freak out and overwhelmingly reelect Bush thereby bringing America even lower by having that horses ass as POTUS for the next term.

On the other hand they may not because they want to help Kerry get in a la Spain.

Either way I'm packed and packing.
El-Auria
16-10-2004, 07:46
What will I do if Kerry gets elected? Probably same thing I did during the Clinton years: rant and rave for a few days, then simply grin and bare it until 2008.

Yeah, I'll admit that at the end of the day, neither of them is my top pick. We either get socialism-lite or "God's chosen son," and no third option with a half-decent chance of winning.
Goed
16-10-2004, 08:03
Read the posts here and you'll understand :p

They'll whine bitch, rant about "terrorists," and how ungodly the world is.


...And yet....SOMEHOW...in some fashion...the world will continue to turn!


unless your TT, of course...
OnoSendai
16-10-2004, 15:25
Actually...it wouldn't work in America. A terrorist attack would hand the election to Bush by a landslide. The difference between Spain and USA? In Spain, the majority of the people were against the war, they didn't like being pulled into it, and when attacked, they voted for the prime minister who was gonna take them out of that conflict...

Sadly, I am not convinced of that. A major, 9/11 scale attack, could have the exact result they want. For three years we have been in a defensive posture, and have spent insane amounts of money to ensure that this never happens again on US soil. Another attack could galvanize opposition, in the 'we did this why?' mode. In that environment, Bush loses.

Of course, if Bush wins, then the attack attempts will continue. So long as we are America, and not Islamofacist slaves, we will be a target. And they will hate us.
King Jazz
16-10-2004, 15:29
to answer the first question,

I will continue on with my life as I have always done, we survived Carter we will survive Kerry if need be.
Druthulhu
16-10-2004, 16:01
What if his four years - if he's elected - are actually good years and he turns out to be a good President?

That didn't work for Clinton, why on Earth would it work for Kerry?
Siljhouettes
16-10-2004, 23:25
A little late for that. We've been heading that way ever since our second communist President, Woodrow Wilson, was elected President by Edward Mandell House.
America has NEVER had a communist president. Point out some of these "communist" actions if you like.
Siljhouettes
16-10-2004, 23:34
Probably join the local militia.

Get some training on how to fight terrorism in one's homeland.

To answer the original question:

Become well known at my local gun shop.
Work my ass off for the Republicans in '08
Hope the US survives the next terrorist attack
...and the ones after that.

Jan 20, 2005 will be the day I complete stocking my terror attack response kit.
Do you guys really think that America will be invaded by rabid Islamist hoards if Kerry is elected?
Siljhouettes
16-10-2004, 23:41
The funny thing is, Americans would probably believe Osama wants Kerry to win! :p
Why do they think this? Well, mendacious Republican propaganda aside, are there any reasons to back up this belief?
Chess Squares
16-10-2004, 23:41
Do you guys really think that America will be invaded by rabid Islamist hoards if Kerry is elected?
do you really think thats a retorical question when being asked of republicans?
Tomzilla
17-10-2004, 00:00
If Kerry wins, I WILL FLEE TO CANADA. This country will get even more messed up with him, and I will not stay around in this country with him as leader.
Chess Squares
17-10-2004, 00:01
If Kerry wins, I WILL FLEE TO CANADA. This country will get even more messed up with him, and I will not stay around in this country with him as leader.
you realise canada already has all the stuff you fear kerry doing, right?
Tomzilla
17-10-2004, 00:23
you realise canada already has all the stuff you fear kerry doing, right?

But not with Kerry as the leader.
Purly Euclid
17-10-2004, 01:14
I won't do more than hope and pray he does a good job. He will be our president, and we need to root for him to suceed. But as I fundementally disagree with him, I will often criticize him. And I will not hesitate to criticize him should he do something I agree with.
Of course, I know that he won't be re-elected in the next four years, if he's elected this time. Why? The American people will find him as charismatic as a rock. Even Kerry supporters admit that a main reason to vote for him is that he isn't Bush.
OnoSendai
17-10-2004, 03:29
Do you guys really think that America will be invaded by rabid Islamist hoards if Kerry is elected?

Invaded? No.

Attacked, probably several times? Yes.
The Jack-Booted Thugs
17-10-2004, 07:56
I'd leave the country immediately, just like Barbra Streisand did when Bush got elected.....oh, wait. LOL