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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.html

Oooh, Carlson and Begala got pwned!

JON STEWART FOR PRESIDENT!

That transcript was hilarious. I wish I could have seen the show.

I MET JOHN STEWART TODAY!!!!!!!

okay, i know i am a total idiot fangirl right now, but he was signing books at a store near me, and i got to chat with him because he ran out of working pens just as i got to the front of the line.

he's so freaking cool. anybody who hasn't already done so should check out the commencement speech he gave at William and Mary a while back...just search for it, they have the transcript on their site. it's awesome.

Okay, and this is an indictment for America, rather than praise for Jon Stewart (damn, I reflexively added an "h" to his name,):

Jon Stewart, America's most trusted newsman.

rofl this whoel thing is hilarious i gotta start watching crossfire

Wow...A friend called right as I started to read the transcript, before Stewart came on and I told him what I was reading. He asked how it went, I didn't know but I said he's usually a pussycat when he goes other places, pretty gentiel. He SHREDDED!!! Oh man-this is what I sometimes wish he would do, just push into these people. Damn! I've dug Stewart since Lunch with Jon and his syndicated talk show that appartently only I watched (he did the greatest fake out with a Cane toad ever on a talk show), and couldn't be happier with him. Fantastic.

Bottle: I'm jealous.

i read the whole transcript and all i can say is WOW

and that im utterly envious of bottle.

Transcript

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.html
That was so funny. Jon is good even when not scripted. Jon is right. Every President had funning moments that can be joked. So its not like this would be an election where they'll elect unfunny guys. After all there will always be the government acting as the government. lol

That was so funny. Jon is good even when not scripted. Jon is right. Every President had funning moments that can be joked. So its not like this would be an election where they'll elect unfunny guys. After all there will always be the government acting as the government. lol

Yeah. The powerful always make good targets. It's what makes us peons fell a little better about ourselves

rofl john stewart sat there harassing and insulting them it was great iwant to watch that episode

Here is the video of their exchange:

http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2652831

I enjoyed it when he called Tucker a dick :D

I love this bit:
CARLSON: It's nice to get them to try and answer the question. And in order to do that, we try and ask them pointed questions. I want to contrast our questions with some questions you asked John Kerry recently.
(CROSSTALK)
CARLSON: ... up on the screen.
STEWART: If you want to compare your show to a comedy show, you're more than welcome to.
What a great riposte! :p

rofl bowtie

you *CAN* see the show for FREE on ifilm! :) : ) :)

Yeah, the actual clip is quite good, too. I also found this transcript from 2002, where Stewart seems to have been on a similar rant:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0211/02/rs.00.html

It seems that this is becoming a recurring theme- he begs CNN to "help us", he's attacked and dismissed by the hosts.

Sad...

BTW, it's JON Stewart. As in Jonathan.

All right, I'll bite ... who the hell is John Stewart?

Here is the video of their exchange:

http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2652831

I enjoyed it when he called Tucker a dick :D
Beat me to it. Good work.

And watch the video--you get the looks of utter disdain that the transcript doesn't get across. I loved it when Stewart told Carlson "I'm not gonna be your monkey" and that Carlson ought to go to journalism school. Oh and when, after Carlson came after him about the questions he asked Kerry, he said "our lead in is a show about puppets that make prank phone calls. You guys are CNN."

It really is a shame that a comedy show is doing a better job of news coverage than some of the major networks.

All right, I'll bite ... who the hell is John Stewart?
Comedian, has a show called "The Daily Show" on the Comedy Network. He looks at current events, news, and well, makes fun of it. That's pretty much the gist of it.

All right, I'll bite ... who the hell is John Stewart?
Here is a link to a satire on the first Presidential debate.....enjoy :D :

http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.jhtml?reposid=/multimedia/indy04/9040.html

Just think about Poland.

I'm so glad people warmed up to Jon Stewart's sense of humour. During times when the Vice President is saying that terrorists are going to blow the crap out of major cities in the US with WMDs, we need to laugh a little at the messed up world.

I'm so glad people warmed up to Jon Stewart's sense of humour. During times when the Vice President is saying that terrorists are going to blow the crap out of major cities in the US with WMDs, we need to laugh a little at the messed up world.


I know, its a sad place when the vice president is a fear-mongering outright liar.

If you want to save the clip for all time--or for as long as it works on your computer anyway--you can download it here. (http://randomfoo.net/?p=2004_10_00_archive.inc#crossfire) Enjoy!

Can someone tel me how he owned them? It didn't seem all that decisive?

John Stewart is very funny, if not very cynical. He has a rapier wit I could only dream to have been gifted with. I don't agree with his stance very often, but I watch him regularly because his show's so damn funny.

Here's VIDEO of the exchange between the Cross-Fire twits and Stewart... EXCELLENT STUFF

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2652831?htv=12 (http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2652831?htv=12)

enjoy!

*crap... like 3 people beat me to it... sorry

LOL thats awesome! They're trying to give him shit for not asking serious questions on his Comedy Show

Can someone tel me how he owned them? It didn't seem all that decisive?
He basically called them out on the shitty job they've done as journalists or analysts or whatever the hell they're supposed to be. And he refused to play their game--"I'm not going to be your monkey" was probably my favorite line of the whole interview.

NPR's Fresh Air program interviewed Jon Stewart on September 30, 2004. He talks about his show and other topics, but also about his opinion of the media and what is wrong with it.

Here is a link to a Fresh Air page with the interview archive:
http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=09/30/2004

Amazingly, unlike Mr. Bowtie on Crossfire, the host of Fresh Air lets Jon talk without interruption (!), so we actually get to hear what Jon is trying to say (!!).

NPR's Fresh Air program interviewed Jon Stewart on September 30, 2004. He talks about his show and other topics, but also about his opinion of the media and what is wrong with it.

Here is a link to a Fresh Air page with the interview archive:
http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=09/30/2004

Amazingly, unlike Mr. Bowtie on Crossfire, the host of Fresh Air lets Jon talk without interruption (!), so we actually get to hear what Jon is trying to say (!!).I'll check it out in the morning. Thanks. :D

NPR's Fresh Air program interviewed Jon Stewart on September 30, 2004. He talks about his show and other topics, but also about his opinion of the media and what is wrong with it.

Here is a link to a Fresh Air page with the interview archive:
http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=09/30/2004

Amazingly, unlike Mr. Bowtie on Crossfire, the host of Fresh Air lets Jon talk without interruption (!), so we actually get to hear what Jon is trying to say (!!).

But that wouldn't be difficult to do. It seemed to me those dorks evaded the criticism pretty effectively. They kept changeing the subject and ignored Stewarts pleas to let him paste them.

But that wouldn't be difficult to do. It seemed to me those dorks evaded the criticism pretty effectively. They kept changeing the subject and ignored Stewarts pleas to let him paste them.

I'm not sure what you mean. What "wouldn't be difficult to do"?

They didn't evade Stewart's criticism at all. Putting their fingers in their ears and going "LALALALALALALA" isn't evading criticism. One evades criticism by confronting that criticism with a rational counterargument that crushes the opponents position. Since the purpose of shows like Crossfire is to continuously re-vomit the same tired party lines, it is not a surprise that the hosts were unfamiliar with the basic idea of "debate" and thus had to resort to interruption, going off on tangents, and cutting to commercials in order to avoid Stewart. If anything, their behavior simply proved Stewart's entire argument. Stewart did paste them, and they helped him rather nicely.

Yeah. But Isn't that what always happens?

Yeah. But Isn't that what always happens?

What is "that"?

Childish discourse and hands being put over ears. And also people talking over each other.

He of course had A point, they are pathetic, and they aren't doing anything to mature american politics. But wouldn't that be obvious to anyone with half A brain. Most people who watched to show wouldn't have picked up on what Stewart was getting at.

Whuh? That transcript got me all set to see a good brawl, but all I saw watching the clip was the usual Jon Stewart, with his weak-kneed mock-feebleness. Disappointing. Sounded like strong words in the transcript, but he just plain whined and moaned on the show... :confused:

God, what a weak criticism.

He of course had A point, they are pathetic, and they aren't doing anything to mature american politics. But wouldn't that be obvious to anyone with half A brain.

That fact that shows like Crossfire, and networks like CNN and Fox News, are considered "real" news media shows that, no, apparently it isn't obvious what kind of a crock o' crud 99.99% of the news media is. Which is truly frightening.

Whuh? That transcript got me all set to see a good brawl, but all I saw watching the clip was the usual Jon Stewart, with his weak-kneed mock-feebleness. Disappointing. Sounded like strong words in the transcript, but he just plain whined and moaned on the show... :confused:

God, what a weak criticism.

I'm starting to notice that all the conservatives who have posted in this thread have expressed those sentiments.

I'm starting to notice that all the conservatives who have posted in this thread have expressed those sentiments.

Hey, I'm as much against pandering by the big media as any democrat, but I'm not ready to award Jon Stewart a medal of honor for his impish protest.. it just didn't do much.. the transcript makes him sound defiant and sharp, but the clip says otherwise.

Jon stewart aint stupid.He intentionally acted that way. He was pandering to his own fans, not trying to get a messsage out to the wider community.

He was showing you could still be meek and get your message across.

Hey, I'm as much against pandering by the big media as any democrat, but I'm not ready to award Jon Stewart a medal of honor for his impish protest.. it just didn't do much.. the transcript makes him sound defiant and sharp, but the clip says otherwise.

Well, he didn't really have to make that stunning of an argument (EDIT: even though I think he absolutely did), as the Crossfire hosts were doing a pretty good job of making his argument for him. However, in the NPR interview link I posted above ( http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7265585&postcount=28 ), Stewart was given a chance to better explain his position. Considering what he said there, and then viewing the Crossfire footage, it becomes clear that he is absolutely right.

(EDIT: Considering the NPR/Fresh Air interview and the Crossfire footage together, it seems like he presents his argument on NPR and then went on Crossfire to prove it.)

Whuh? That transcript got me all set to see a good brawl, but all I saw watching the clip was the usual Jon Stewart, with his weak-kneed mock-feebleness. Disappointing. Sounded like strong words in the transcript, but he just plain whined and moaned on the show... :confused:

God, what a weak criticism.


Dude.

Stewart OWNED that show.

Im starting to wonder if maybe you should get an eye appointment.

Dude.

Stewart OWNED that show.

Im starting to wonder if maybe you should get an eye appointment.

Maybe. I don't know the whole backstory on Stewart vs. Crossfire, and what he's said about them in the past.. but I'm just saying what I saw as a non-crossfire viewer. He accuses them of not serving the public interest, but that's about it: something anyone could accuse any news show, correctly.

Also, the whole 'spin-alley' thing was a joke, sorry.

Maybe. I don't know the whole backstory on Stewart vs. Crossfire, and what he's said about them in the past.. but I'm just saying what I saw as a non-crossfire viewer. He accuses them of not serving the public interest, but that's about it: something anyone could accuse any news show, correctly.

Also, the whole 'spin-alley' thing was a joke, sorry.


True.

But the best part was when this guy was accusing Stewart of being "soft" on Kerry.
Of course he was...but the point Stewart made, was that "The Daily Show" is a comedy show that prides itself on being fake news.
CNN does the same, only far worse, and like FOX, makes the pretension of being credible News Media, and having a code of ethics among journalists.
Stewarts a bright guy, and has an acid wit.
Both of those people were out of their leagues.

It's amazing to me too how much of an effect Stewart has on certain demographic segments--segments that don't traditionally vote in large numbers. Howard Stern is the same way. And if Kerry wins big in two weeks, like I'm starting to think he will, he'll have those two guys to thank for it, because they will have motivated people who don't traditionally vote and who are always missed by pollsters to turn out.

Here's a clip from The Daily Show which I think nicely sums up exactly what Jon was trying to say on Crossfire:

http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.jhtml?reposid=/multimedia/tds/stewart/jon_9007.html


And I thought only the fake news was read off a script........

I didn;t get the whole spin alley thing either.

I didn;t get the whole spin alley thing either.
He was pointing out how it is disengenous to, immediately after the debates, head straight into a room of people who's job it is to, regardless of what just happened, spin the debate in favor of thier candidate, a place that is named spin alley, which he relates to 'deception lane.' Rather than do any analysis themselves, examine what was said-they go right to the parties to reinforce themselves. It'd be like interviewing the cheerleaders after a football game.

Why do I have to go to factcheck.org for anyone to do any research? What ever happened to investigative reporting? The point is made clearer on the NPR link someone put up, which is fantastic.

But they dont literally go into a romm do they?

Or do you mean how in their final words they both try to claim victory?

But they dont literally go into a romm do they?

Or do you mean how in their final words they both try to claim victory?
No, they literally go to a place they actually call 'Spin Alley.' It's one of the reasons I made a point of switching to the Simpsons immediately after the debates. They go to Spin Alley and interview reprsenatives of each party. That, and 'rapid response teams' have been something Stewart has been rallying against this election.

What, as part of the show? They just donate air time to politicians?>

Which I suppose is the premise of the show, but all blatent like>?

What, as part of the show? They just donate air time to politicians?>

Which I suppose is the premise of the show, but all blatent like>?
Ah, I see-you're getting derailed the same way the hosts were. It was a stumbling block, because Stewart doesn't regard Crossfire as a debate show-he was talking about CNN and other news channels after the presidential debates, not the debates on Crossfire. He regards Crossfire as theater, stating that calling Crossfire a debate show is like calling professional wrestling an athletic contest.

Here is a link to a satire on the first Presidential debate.....enjoy :D :

http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.jhtml?reposid=/multimedia/indy04/9040.html

Just think about Poland.

Oh, yeah ... I've seen him before, just couldn't place the name. Sorry.

Speaking of Stewart, my girlfriend got me his book yesterday as an early Christmas present. Haven't done more than glance into it, but it's freaking brilliant so far. It's set up like a textbook from high school.

I was actually previously familiar with Jon Stewart's comedy somehow (I might have seen him on a programme doing stand up? I can't remember) but we don't get Comedy Central here. And damnit, I wish we did, just for this show.

Not that I could afford a digital subscription anyway.

Speaking of Stewart, my girlfriend got me his book yesterday as an early Christmas present. Haven't done more than glance into it, but it's freaking brilliant so far. It's set up like a textbook from high school.

My girl got it for me for Sweetest day

heh, up to chapter 4

and it even has the stamp on the inside of the cover that says Property of Such and such school board

My girl got it for me for Sweetest day

heh, up to chapter 4

and it even has the stamp on the inside of the cover that says Property of Such and such school board
Yeah--I thought that was classic. I'm leafing through it, just glancing at random bits, but the chapter on the media is terrific.

And RPP, I know just how you feel. I get just enough of a dose from watching the online clips to keep from going mad, but I wish I had Comedy Central just for that.

I also find extremely amusing how my cousin in Pakistan can get all your American channels for cheaper than I have to pay to get terrestrial (TV license). He probably watches The Daily Show!

Whuh? That transcript got me all set to see a good brawl, but all I saw watching the clip was the usual Jon Stewart, with his weak-kneed mock-feebleness. Disappointing. Sounded like strong words in the transcript, but he just plain whined and moaned on the show... :confused:


Yes, that's his comedic style. He's a comedian, remember, and by protraying a weak-kneed, feeble and whiny moaner is how he gets the point across and can get away with making fun and using stronger words and criticism than most.

Otherwise he's just come out as a punk or drunken brawler.

The media is a sad, pathetic shadow of what it once was.

i just wanted to thank whoever posted the link to the video online.

i watched it at my sisters house this morning, (she lives in town and gets dsl)

those poor guys were WAY out of their league, they wanted to be good sports but he was just way too RIGHT for them to deal with it

The media is a sad, pathetic shadow of what it once was.agree