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Have any of you read about National Day in Spain yesterday? It was the fist time the ALL factions of the 1930's Civil War were together to match in the National Day Parade. To my surprise this even included veterans of the Blue Division.

To the surprise of many facsits and US Republicans... the US Armed Forces were not invited to join this parade for the first time in it's history.

For the republicans that don't know that division.
The Azul division was Franco's aid for Nazi Germany. A volunteer corps, active on the east front, many survivors have good contacts with the US Reps and other fascist organisations around the world.

thats fantastic

im glad that they arent discriminating against the fascists

A volunteer corps, active on the east front, many survivors have good contacts with the US Reps and other fascist organisations around the world.
Then why weren't the US troops invited then? Although I think thats a good thing.

It was the fist time the ALL factions of the 1930's Civil War were together to match in the National Day Parade.

even the anarchists?

Have any of you read about National Day in Spain yesterday? It was the fist time the ALL factions of the 1930's Civil War were together to match in the National Day Parade. To my surprise this even included veterans of the Blue Division.

To the surprise of many facsits and US Republicans... the US Armed Forces were not invited to join this parade for the first time in it's history.

Maybe I have missed the point of the whole thing here, but the US Armed Forces didn't take part in the SCW, other than those Americans that were part of the International Brigades (the Abraham Lincoln Brigade IIRC). Were American individuals allowed/invited to take part?

even the anarchists?

No, since they are under the banner of the anti Franco's.Do you support them? For me, they deserve their own flag.

from the article:

Spain drops US troops from parade


Spain's new government has withdrawn all its troops from Iraq
US troops will not be invited to take part this year's Spanish National Day parade, the government has said.
French troops have been invited instead, as part of celebrations to mark 60 years since of the liberation of Paris from Nazi occupation.

The move does not constitute a change in relations with the US, Defence Minister Jose Bono said.

But relations between the two countries have been strained since Spain pulled its troops out of Iraq.

'Inappropriate presence'

"This is in no way an insult or a sign of contempt towards the United States," Mr Bono told Cadena Cope radio.

However, he added that Spain was "no longer subordinated" and "kneeling" before other countries.

US marines have participated in the 12 October military parade by invitation of the Spanish government since 2001, in a mark of respect for the victims of the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

Spain's new socialist government has steered away from its predecessors' pro-US policies.

At last year's parade, Prime Minister Rodriguez Zapatero - the leader of the opposition at the time - remained seated as the US flag went past, believing its presence was inappropriate, El Mundo reported.

France was a vocal opponent of the war.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3719572.stm

More info about this in thread http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=61420

The spanish veterans included a member of the Spanish Company La Nueve (2nd Armoured Div. Leclerc), the first allied unit to enter in Paris 1944 and a lieutenant of the Blue Division, pow in Russia.


To my surprise this even included veterans of the Blue Division.


Veterans of francoist side are very common until today in parades in Spain. This is the first time for a republican veteran who fought in the allied side (this is the real surprise). Sadly, long time has passed to honour the republican soldiers.

In the parade has been invited a french unit from 2nd Leclerc Division to tribute this unit and his spanish soldiers, who liberate Paris.


Tribute to the 2nd DB on the occasion of the Spanish National holiday, on October 12th

A 46-men detachment from the Chad march regiment, which was a part of the 2nd DB, will parade alongside with Spanish troops on the occasion of the Spanish National holiday on October, 12th.
The French thus intend to pay tribute to the former Spanish republican soldiers who made up Company 9, which opened the way to Paris for the 2nd DB on the evening of August 24th, 1944.
Veterans who took part to the liberation of the French capital will attend the parade from the tribunes.








Regards,

"US marines have participated in the 12 October military parade by invitation of the Spanish government since 2001, in a mark of respect for the victims of the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington."

Ah. Clarity has now come about.

the Blue division???

shit. for anyone who does not know about them, its worth finding info. scary sons of bitches.

Don't see why the americans should attend anyway. If it was out of respect for sept. 11, that's all fair and good. But did the yanks expect to be in it every year???

even the anarchists?

isn't "anarchist faction" a contradiction in terms?

Also, how does the anarchist faction choose a leader?

Hello,

They should go further and have a General Franco day.
Franco was a great man who brought peace to Spain and built a strong economy-especially the tourist trade. I have met loads of Spaniards who wish a leader like Franco was still ruling Spain rather than that Liberal idiot Zapatero.

The Blue Division were not troops Franco sent Hitler. They were volunteers from Spain who wanted to fight Communism.
The SS had volunteers from all over Europe like England, France, Belgium, Russian and other slavic volunteers even as far as Argentina.
You certainly couldnt say these countries were pro-nazi could you!

Hello,

They should go further and have a General Franco day.
Franco was a great man who brought peace to Spain and built a strong economy-especially the tourist trade. I have met loads of Spaniards who wish a leader like Franco was still ruling Spain rather than that Liberal idiot Zapatero.

The Blue Division were not troops Franco sent Hitler. They were volunteers from Spain who wanted to fight Communism.
The SS had volunteers from all over Europe like England, France, Belgium, Russian and other slavic volunteers even as far as Argentina.
You certainly couldnt say these countries were pro-nazi could you!

you mean germanic no?

isn't "anarchist faction" a contradiction in terms?

Also, how does the anarchist faction choose a leader?

no. the anarchists were one of the larger factions during the civil war. without them the military coup would have almost certainly been totally victorious within the first few days.

and leader in what capacity?

Hello,

They should go further and have a General Franco day.
Franco was a great man who brought peace to Spain and built a strong economy-especially the tourist trade. I have met loads of Spaniards who wish a leader like Franco was still ruling Spain rather than that Liberal idiot Zapatero.

The Blue Division were not troops Franco sent Hitler. They were volunteers from Spain who wanted to fight Communism.
The SS had volunteers from all over Europe like England, France, Belgium, Russian and other slavic volunteers even as far as Argentina.
You certainly couldnt say these countries were pro-nazi could you!

To say they were "volunteers" is a very loose term. After Hendaye, Franco agreed to allow his soldiers (in the Spanish Army, still serving), who wanted to form the Blue Division, and he touted them as his support to the Fascist crusade against Communism. He may not have ordered them, but he did not stop them, or even try to give them incentive to stay, even the US did this to prevent Americans from joining the Allies.