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President Bush: Commodus reborn?

Mr Basil Fawlty
14-10-2004, 23:23
Today's history lesson:


In 180 A.D., Rome faced one of its greatest challenges as Marcus Aurelius Commodus Antoninus (Commodus) succeeded his father in ruling the Empire . Due to his actions during a 12 year reign, he became arguably known as Rome's worst emperor.

Unlike his father who was thought to be kind and genuinely caring, Commodus was violent, short-tempered and thought to be literally insane.

Commodus' violent nature attracted him to death sports. He liked to play warrior, dressing up as either a Gladiator or Hercules in order to fight and kill opponents armed only with wooden defenses (while some say they were made of lead). Comparing himself to the hero Hercules, Commodus claimed to have killed thousands of men in combat.

In order to win the support of the people, Commodus gave large sums of money away to the masses on several occasions, demonstrating a complete lack of fiscally responsibility.

In protecting himself and his actions, the young emperor kept the Roman Senate and others at bay through the use of the Praetorian Guard, a special unit of men loyal not to Rome but to the emperor.

His foreign policy could only be described as erratic. Commodus created a peace treaty with Germanic tribes shortly after taking the throne yet waged war with the Germans regardless. He was also well known to take credit for partial victories in battle, requiring the Senate to Honor him for his accomplishments.

While he played Gladiator and demanded to be treated as a God, Commodus left the affairs of Rome up to corrupt men who pillaged the Empire, sharing their spoils of rule with their constantly vacationing emperor. The similarities between a Commodus and our American president are striking for those willing to take an unbiased glance into the actions of the Bush administration.

In 2001, following the footsteps of his father, George W. Bush was sworn in as the 43rd President of the United States. In the opinion of many, he is well on his way in becoming one of the worst presidents in American history. While Bush shares some of his father's traits such as his difficulty coherently speaking in public, he does contrast with his father's calm and affable nature by being known as short-tempered and highly emotional. Some would argue that due to his record of putting men and women to death as Texas Governor and at times mocking them, that George Bush is a violent man.

While spending a great amount of time on his Crawford ranch, Bush drives around in his pickup truck, slings chainsaws and generally plays cowboy while the media films his experiences. The president is also known for his infamous carrier landing when he unnecessarily dressed up as a fighter pilot in order to address the nation. It can be easily concluded that Bush enjoys his cowboy persona and the ability to play the warrior's role when given the chance.

Shortly after taking office, Bush enacted a retroactive tax break resulting in cash being given to the American masses. While this won the support of many people, a great deal of others questioned the fiscal responsibility of his actions. Throughout his term he continued to offer and propose further largesse despite the highest national debt in the history of the nation.

In protecting and defending his actions, Bush is cushioned by individuals who attack any political opponents who rise against the president while keeping the masses in check and on the side of their president. Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Ailes and others effectively serve as Bush's Praetorian Guard. Although the actions of the individuals above could place them in league with the later Praetorians who literally sold the emperor's seat to the highest bidder (material for a completely different column), they are at the moment committed to their president over the good of the country.

The foreign policy of George W. Bush, specifically what is now known as the Bush Doctrine, defies not only logic but also the history of the United States. The recent not-so-shocking revelation that Iraq possessed no weapons of mass destruction proved to the world that the Bush Doctrine is flawed. Despite the glaring mistake, the doctrine is still defended by the president and his Praetorians. Additionally, Bush is prone to claim partial victories such as his May 2003 speech in which he declared that, "In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." Bush also commonly states that "our nation and the world are safer" in stark contrast to the daily bombings and violence throughout the world.

Bush has admittedly surrounded himself with men and women of experience and power and obviously defers matters of the nation to their judgments. These individuals, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rove, etc., drive the agenda of the nation while some actively profit from the decisions they make as members of the Bush administration. As Commodus had the ultimate power as emperor and could flagrantly mock and dismay the Roman government and his country, a difference only of subtlety remains between America's current president and one of Rome's worst emperors.

History does, from time to time, repeat itself without being evident until it is too late and a wrong is repeated. Thankfully, the American people can choose to end this recycling of history on November 2nd. Unfortunately, a great deal of damage has already been done that will reverberate for generations. As part of Rome's recovery after the corrupt reign of Commodus, the Senate passed damnatio memoriae which is a damnation of memory. They Romans figuratively tossed all traces of Commodus into the memory hole. Just as Rome had to recover from the reign of Commodus, America must do the same in the coming years by rejecting forever the flawed doctrines, ruling arrogance and international ignorance of the Bush administration.




Washington Dispatch
Superpower07
14-10-2004, 23:25
*whistles* wow
The Black Forrest
14-10-2004, 23:28
Indeed! ewwweeeee!
Jever Pilsener
14-10-2004, 23:30
As I recall Commodus liked to participate in gladiator fights. And died in the Arena. I don´t see Bush putting himself at risk.
Cosgrach
14-10-2004, 23:31
The similarities between a Commodus and our American president are striking for those willing to take an unbiased glance into the actions of the Bush administration.

haha
Mr Basil Fawlty
14-10-2004, 23:37
As I recall Commodus liked to participate in gladiator fights. And died in the Arena. I don´t see Bush putting himself at risk.


Indeed but Bush is a Republican Texan, thus...a coward.
Jever Pilsener
14-10-2004, 23:38
Indeed but Bush is a Republican Texan, thus...a coward.
So he can´t be Commodus. Nero is a more likely candidate in my opinion.
Mr Basil Fawlty
14-10-2004, 23:43
Nero was an artist and a schizophrene, Commodus and Bush are just mean and can't hide in mental illness (altough :confused: ) like Nero, the last of Caesars (Cesar for the non Latin speakers) bloodline.
Least well known NSer
15-10-2004, 00:15
Marcus Aurelius was great.

BUMP
Mentholyptus
15-10-2004, 00:49
Indeed but Bush is a Republican Texan, thus...a coward.
Actually, he's from Kennebunkport, Maine. One of the richest towns in the country. IIRC, he bought the Crawford, TX ranch just before Election 2000. Though he is still a coward.
Eutrusca
15-10-2004, 01:12
Indeed but Bush is a Republican Texan, thus...a coward.

And just when I was beginning to think you might have just a TAD more sense than some of the inexperienced twits on here. Tsk!
MunkeBrain
15-10-2004, 02:24
Indeed but Bush is a Republican Texan, thus...a coward.
I welcome you to come to the United States, find a texan, and tell him that, loser.
Von Witzleben
15-10-2004, 02:46
Nero was an artist and a schizophrene, Commodus and Bush are just mean and can't hide in mental illness (altough :confused: ) like Nero, the last of Caesars (Cesar for the non Latin speakers) bloodline.
They are both loonies with delusions of grandure. Nero and Bush I mean.
Slap Happy Lunatics
15-10-2004, 02:56
Today's history lesson:
Washington Dispatch


All Hail Caesar!
Markreich
15-10-2004, 03:04
You know, 20 years from now, you're going to look back on the Bush presidency the same way we look back at Nixon now: "we were all upset about what?!?"

Hate to tell you all this, but this is NOT the end of days, people. :)
Goed
15-10-2004, 03:15
I welcome you to come to the United States, find a texan, and tell him that, loser.

Pfh, I've done it before.

Granted, I had a knife on me at the time, but he didn't actually know about that, so it doesn't count :p
Slap Happy Lunatics
15-10-2004, 07:01
You know, 20 years from now, you're going to look back on the Bush presidency the same way we look back at Nixon now: "we were all upset about what?!?"

Hate to tell you all this, but this is NOT the end of days, people.
You got a link for that?
Empath
15-10-2004, 10:02
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, general of the felix armies, loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Arelius, husband to a murdered wife, father to a murdered son, and I will have my vengence in this life or the next!
Poladsia
15-10-2004, 10:31
They are both loonies with delusions of grandure. Nero and Bush I mean.

Yeah, but Nero actually had a prospering economy, good advisors and several years of benevolent governement before it went off track. And he was the indirect decendant of the greatest man the world ever produced: Augustus - so delusions of grandeur were in order for Nero...
In reality I'd say it's far more likely Tigellinus is reincarnated as Donald Rumsfelt :gundge: Just look at him: evil, self-aggrandizing, corrupt; excerts undue influence to make president make bad choices...

Commodus has become terrible popular at late. How about Elagabalus for a change; second last Severan, mad as a sick cow, unduely influenced by his mother, completely clueless... fits perfectly in my opinion... ;)
Markreich
15-10-2004, 14:29
You got a link for that?

Sure. Here you go. :)
http://www.goatley.com/pota/scripts/pota_beneath_final.pdf
Alimabec
15-10-2004, 14:52
aww don't bash our president. any one remember september 11. i support bush. yes he does look like a monkey. but yea. stand up for your county.
Greenmanbry
15-10-2004, 15:02
As I recall Commodus liked to participate in gladiator fights. And died in the Arena. I don´t see Bush putting himself at risk.

Unfortunately..

I was really hoping his fighter plane's tailhook would not deploy properly and that he would plummet into the sea. But, alas, my prayers were not answered.

EDIT-

Oh wait, didn't he risk his safety when he rode and ate a pretzel??
Jeruselem
15-10-2004, 15:11
All Hail Caesar!

Let's deify him! :D

All roads lead to Rome! Sorry Washington DC.
Nidnodistan
15-10-2004, 15:12
My name is Gluteous Maximus, general of the felix armies, loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Arelius, husband to a murdered wife, father to a murdered son, and I will have my vengence in this life or the next!

;)
Big Jim P
15-10-2004, 15:16
I welcome you to come to the United States, find a texan, and tell him that, loser.

I am a Texan, and hes welcome to come here anytime. *grin* BarBQ anyone?

Besides as pointed out above, He's not a Texan. He is, however, proof that Texans can be stupid: We let him move here.
Gigatron
15-10-2004, 15:21
I am a Texan, and hes welcome to come here anytime. *grin* BarBQ anyone?

Besides as pointed out above, He's not a Texan. He is, however, proof that Texans can be stupid: We let him move here.
My condolences. 10 hurricanes at once probably are better than having George W. Bush as fellow citizen.
Roach-Busters
15-10-2004, 15:30
My condolences. 10 hurricanes at once probably are better than having George W. Bush as fellow citizen.

You are correct, sir.
Jeruselem
15-10-2004, 15:31
I am a Texan, and hes welcome to come here anytime. *grin* BarBQ anyone?

Besides as pointed out above, He's not a Texan. He is, however, proof that Texans can be stupid: We let him move here.

Well, Florida has Governor Jeb Bush! Look what happened to them.

>> He's a Texan ...
John Ellis Bush was born February 11, 1953, in Midland, Texas, and is one of five children. He earned a degree in Latin American Affairs from the University of Texas at Austin.
Slap Happy Lunatics
15-10-2004, 16:02
Sure. Here you go. :)
http://www.goatley.com/pota/scripts/pota_beneath_final.pdf
:D Great answer to a question meant as a joke! Just couldn't get the smileys to work and I was way tired. Thanks for the laugh.
Lex Terrae
15-10-2004, 16:04
Let me guess, John Kerry is Maximus. "Are you not entertained?!?!" (Throwing sword into the crowd).
Slap Happy Lunatics
15-10-2004, 16:05
aww don't bash our president. any one remember september 11. i support bush. yes he does look like a monkey. but yea. stand up for your county.
Is the typo a missing y or an added one?
Jever Pilsener
15-10-2004, 16:07
Oh wait, didn't he risk his safety when he rode and ate a pretzel??
Oh yeah. I think he should be rewarded for that heroic deed with a congressional medal of honor.
Slap Happy Lunatics
15-10-2004, 16:09
My name is Gluteous Maximus, general of the felix armies, loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Arelius, husband to a murdered wife, father to a murdered son, and I will have my vengence in this life or the next!
;)
I hear ya. I think you must be the Roman equivelant of A Boy Named Sue. Were you made the butt of jokes as a child in school? :p
Slap Happy Lunatics
15-10-2004, 16:11
Let's deify him! :D

All roads lead to Rome! Sorry Washington DC.
Around this toga party you either deify or crucify him. Either way it's all very Roman.
Markreich
15-10-2004, 16:34
:D Great answer to a question meant as a joke! Just couldn't get the smileys to work and I was way tired. Thanks for the laugh.

Thanks, and you're welcome. I'm just so tired of everyone (on both/all sides)yelling "APOCALYPSE!" everytime something doesn't go their way. :)
Martian Free Colonies
15-10-2004, 16:57
I see Bush more as Crassus, personally. He was elected Consul by outspending the opposition, then started a war in Iraq claiming he was safeguarding Rome's security but basically hoping to line his pockets, and he got his ass kicked bigtime.

[Clambers into flameproof suit...]
Martian Free Colonies
15-10-2004, 16:59
Of course, Bush never defeated Spartacus, but then historical parallels always do fall down after a while...