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This is something I've always wondered. If you're under the age of 18, then can you be pædophilic? Common sense seems to say "yes" but how can you if you aren't an adult?

This is something I've always wondered. If you're under the age of 18, then can you be pædophilic? Common sense seems to say "yes" but how can you if you aren't an adult?

Most definitely.

Yes

This is something I've always wondered. If you're under the age of 18, then can you be pædophilic? Common sense seems to say "yes" but how can you if you aren't an adult?
yes, average between technically and literally there though

This is something I've always wondered. If you're under the age of 18, then can you be pædophilic? Common sense seems to say "yes" but how can you if you aren't an adult?


Only if they use 'æ' instead of just 'e' like normal people. :p

pedophilia isnt attraction to teenagers
its the attraction to children
those who have not reached puberty yet.
*shudder*
an overwhleming desire for sex with a 5 year old

How can a minor be pædophilic, then?

How can a minor be pædophilic, then?

I've heard of several cases where a boy of 12 or 14 has sexually molested a 4 or 5 year-old. That's pedophilia, but the perpetrator would be tried as a juvenile in most jurisdictions.

I've heard of several cases where a boy of 12 or 14 has sexually molested a 4 or 5 year-old. That's pedophilia, but the perpetrator would be tried as a juvenile in most jurisdictions.

I suppose that answers my question.

What if a twelve year old gets naked pictures of themself, sends it to themselves and looks at it?

What if a twelve year old gets naked pictures of themself, sends it to themselves and looks at it?
It seems like not to long ago a 14 year old was arrested for taking pictures of herself naked and sending them out...

Also...would it be pedophelia if a prepubescent male had sex with a prepubescent female...like when they were taking a bath together and mommy left to go answer the phone...or something...

What if a twelve year old gets naked pictures of themself, sends it to themselves and looks at it?
HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT??? Oh... I mean... I dunno. Sicko.

It seems like not to long ago a 14 year old was arrested for taking pictures of herself naked and sending them out...

Also...would it be pedophelia if a prepubescent male had sex with a prepubescent female...like when they were taking a bath together and mommy left to go answer the phone...or something...
I think I would probably have to define pedophilia as a sexually mature individual having sex with someone who has not yet reached sexual maturity. So if a 13 year old had sex with an 8 year old, he would be a pedophile, and if a 30 year old had sex with a 15 year old, he would just be a pervert.

Always a "he"?

I think I would probably have to define pedophilia as a sexually mature individual having sex with someone who has not yet reached sexual maturity. So if a 13 year old had sex with an 8 year old, he would be a pedophile, and if a 30 year old had sex with a 15 year old, he would just be a pervert.
Nope ... he would be arrested fur statutory rape.

How can a minor be pædophilic, then?
Yup.
Why? Having a crush on the 4 months old baby nextdoor?

Always a "he"?
Not always, but usually.

Nope ... he would be arrested fur statutury rape.
That too, but he would still be considered a pervert by our social standards.

That too, but he would still be considered a pervert by our social standards.
Yup.

Yup.
Why? Having a crush on the 4 months old baby nextdoor?

No, I was just wondering, really. It's kind of a philosophical question, like "what is the sound of one-handed clapping?"

Well, if you are 18, and you do with a 17 year old, that counts as pedophilia, even if you just turned 18 yesterday. It sucks but that's law and its also a reason why I think that law is seriously flawed.

It seems like not to long ago a 14 year old was arrested for taking pictures of herself naked and sending them out...

Also...would it be pedophelia if a prepubescent male had sex with a prepubescent female...like when they were taking a bath together and mommy left to go answer the phone...or something...
familiar case. she went to prison for it. There was big uproar but the government wouldn't listen. Another case of the govt. clearly overstepping its bounds in an effort to force the religious views of the minority on the majority, and hence just another example of the growing train of usurpations of our rights that will ultimately lead to violent revolution.

That too, but he would still be considered a pervert by our social standards.
basically an outcast.

familiar case. she went to prison for it. There was big uproar but the government wouldn't listen. Another case of the govt. clearly overstepping its bounds in an effort to force the religious views of the minority on the majority, and hence just another example of the growing train of usurpations of our rights that will ultimately lead to violent revolution.
She went to prison? There's no other place with more sex going on than prison...

I know. I can't believe they call it "The Land of the Free".

familiar case. she went to prison for it. There was big uproar but the government wouldn't listen. Another case of the govt. clearly overstepping its bounds in an effort to force the religious views of the minority on the majority, and hence just another example of the growing train of usurpations of our rights that will ultimately lead to violent revolution.

Sources? References? Solid facts???

Well, if you are 18, and you do with a 17 year old, that counts as pedophilia, even if you just turned 18 yesterday. It sucks but that's law and its also a reason why I think that law is seriously flawed.

You are free to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but as I understand it, pedophilia is more a psychological designation for those who have sex or desire sex with children, a "sexual disorder."

The law, in most states on the other hand, doesn't seem to include any mention of "pedophilia," preferring to use "statutory rape," "lewd acts with a minor," "child abuse," and other such legal terminology.

No, I was just wondering, really.
Yeah...try it again without the stutter. :p

Yeah...try it again without the stutter.

I'm not attracted to babies.

dp

Well, if you are 18, and you do with a 17 year old, that counts as pedophilia, even if you just turned 18 yesterday. It sucks but that's law and its also a reason why I think that law is seriously flawed.
Actually, many states have a law that it's not statutory rape if the age difference is less than 2 years (or maybe it's 4).

Nope ... he would be arrested fur statutory rape.Not from where im standing...he would not be arrested

No, I was just wondering, really. It's kind of a philosophical question, like "what is the sound of one-handed clapping?"

CL.

Not from where im standing...he would not be arrested

Why not?

Not from where im standing...he would not be arrested

I remember reading an interview with an American guy in his early 20's, when he was eight years old he bit another eight year old in the crotch at school. He spent his childhood after that in some institution for juvenile criminals, and at 18 he was moved to a prison.
That guy is still a registered sex-offender and has to wear one of those ankle things that let the police know where he is at all times. Even his house is marked as a sex-offenders house.
This happened in texas.

I'm not attracted to babies.
Thats why you think of them as oncoming adults. :D

I remember reading an interview with an American guy in his early 20's, when he was eight years old he bit another eight year old in the crotch at school. He spent his childhood after that in some institution for juvenile criminals, and at 18 he was moved to a prison.
That guy is still a registered sex-offender and has to wear one of those ankle things that let the police know where he is at all times. Even his house is marked as a sex-offenders house.
This happened in texas.

:rolleyes: Off subjject, buit one time I got a 2 day suspension from school for throwing a snowball at some girl when I waas sitting in my dirveway and she was walking down the street :rolleyes:

Back on subject, yeah statutory is tfour years where I am (I think) It seems kind of stupid once they hit about 13 though, it may seem a little wierd but hey, they like eachother, they can do it all they want. Not my problem.

:rolleyes: Off subjject, buit one time I got a 2 day suspension from school for throwing a snowball at some girl when I waas sitting in my dirveway and she was walking down the street :rolleyes:

Back on subject, yeah statutory is tfour years where I am (I think) It seems kind of stupid once they hit about 13 though, it may seem a little wierd but hey, they like eachother, they can do it all they want. Not my problem.

Well... I was making the point that in some places they are regarded as conscious of their actions, and sex offenders.
I mean...technically the guy is registered for crimes against an 8 year old...

Actually, many states have a law that it's not statutory rape if the age difference is less than 2 years (or maybe it's 4).

In Australia, or at least in Queensland, the law, last I heard, was that a 16 year old can have sex with a 17 or 18 year old, a 17 year old with am 18 year old, and 18 year old with anyone older. And the guy has to be the younger party, or else it's rape. I don't know why, it just is.

Also, in Oz, afaik we don't have 'statutory rape' - we just call it rape, or molestation, or something like that. I think they used to call it 'carnal knowledge'

Sigh...a lot of incorrect information floating around in this thread.

In Australia, or at least in Queensland, the law, last I heard, was that a 16 year old can have sex with a 17 or 18 year old, a 17 year old with am 18 year old, and 18 year old with anyone older. And the guy has to be the younger party, or else it's rape. I don't know why, it just is.

Also, in Oz, afaik we don't have 'statutory rape' - we just call it rape, or molestation, or something like that. I think they used to call it 'carnal knowledge'

Strange system...
Over here, in Iceland the age of consent is 14, which i find a bit young.

Yep.

Strange system...
Over here, in Iceland the age of consent is 14, which i find a bit young.
i think we tied to get 15 once long ago and got sentenced to the stocks

Sigh...a lot of incorrect information floating around in this thread.
Meant yep to that.

Also, I'm 17, and I know more than a few extremely hot Freshmen at my school who would just love to get wit me. Sadly, here in South Carolina I can't get away with that unless their parents decide that would be OK. And I seriously doubt that will happen, because two in particular (who are Bi) happen to be Mormon. Ya, I got a chance...

i think we tied to get 15 once long ago and got sentenced to the stocks

sentenced to the stocks? What does that mean?

Provided they have parental consent females can be married in North Carolina at 14.

Anyway, pedophilia is not a desire for sex exactly, it the the preference of an individual to spend time around children rather than adults. In some instances they may be childlike themselves.

The sexual part of it comes into play when the pedophile is confronted with physiological things that can't be explained by children.

It is a sad thing to have to endure methinks, but it isn't evil.

Most child molestations aren't even committed by pedophiles.

Also pedophiles don't usually care which sex the children are, because before puberty the difference is minimal.

Anyway, if you study the behavior of pedophiles, a lot of questions answer themselves.

I don't condone making it easier to have consentual sex with a minor regardless of physiological state, because those 18 years are the only ones you get before you have to be fully functional.

Why not?Because it is not illegal.

Because it is not illegal.

What country do you live in?

What country do you live in?rite now Im in Canada, was in Chile and China last year...
Like i said
Not from where im standing...he would not be arrested

Sigh...a lot of incorrect information floating around in this thread.
Well then, correct it.

rite now Im in Canada

I knew Canada was a lot freer than the US, but I didn't know it allowed pædophilia.

Anyway, pedophilia is not a desire for sex exactly, it the the preference of an individual to spend time around children rather than adults.

So, since I prefer the company of my grandchildren to the company of my grown children, by your definition would I be a pedophile?

Common usage has given the term "pedophile" the connotation of one who prefers sexually molesting children, if not the denotation. I would like to know the source(s) of your information on this post.

Yes, a minor can be a pedophile. Imagine a 16 year old who lusts after 7 year olds - what else would you call it?

Additionally... I think in most places a 17 and 18 year old having consensual sex is not considered rape, but a 15 and 18 year old would be. The age of consent most places is 16. If both parties are under 16, it's considered the same way as two non-minors. I'm not sure what the law is for, for example, a 15 and 16 year old, but most cases of statutory rape (whether it was actually a rape or not) are between someone under the age of consent and someone over the age of majority.

I knew Canada was a lot freer than the US, but I didn't know it allowed pædophilia.You really have a dirty mind...You see pædophilia everywhere....even in Canada....you need Psycological help....Pronto.

Additionally... I think in most places a 17 and 18 year old having consensual sex is not considered rape,
in america it is

Well... I was making the point that in some places they are regarded as ..... thats rite Litilia...In some places ....

Some Americans Think that their local Laws can be inposed upon all other countries..

You really have a dirty mind...You see pædophilia everywhere....even in Canada....you need Psycological help....Pronto.

No, what I meant to say is that Canada is less strict than the US.

in america it is

ummm, no it's not

No, what I meant to say is that Canada is less strict than the US.waht you "said"...is in Black and White....in this very same page....

Its like an Iraqi Saying that America allowed pædophilia...only because they legislated an older Age (18) for consentual sex.

ummm, no it's not
yes, it is

i think we tied to get 15 once long ago and got sentenced to the stocks
Aye and we use to have marriage at fourteen. Alabama's crazy isn't it?

in america it is

Really? Well, that's good to know if I ever have a boyfriend with a different date-of-birth than me. :rolleyes:

Since I'm 14 (not that I think I'm going to lose my virginity anytime soon, but it never hurts to be prepared) can you clarify the rest of the USA law for me too? I'm in Oregon, so I think the age of consent is 16 here.

Really? Well, that's good to know if I ever have a boyfriend with a different date-of-birth than me. :rolleyes:

Since I'm 14 (not that I think I'm going to lose my virginity anytime soon, but it never hurts to be prepared) can you clarify the rest of the USA law for me too? I'm in Oregon, so I think the age of consent is 16 here.
i wouldnt count on anyone caring what a single STAT law is

Really? Well, that's good to know if I ever have a boyfriend with a different date-of-birth than me. :rolleyes:

Since I'm 14 (not that I think I'm going to lose my virginity anytime soon, but it never hurts to be prepared) can you clarify the rest of the USA law for me too? I'm in Oregon, so I think the age of consent is 16 here.
Well....i got good news for you....

First, if you are "not going to lose your virginity anytime soon" <<You dont need to worry about it

Second, even if (God forbid) you fall for the Devils temptations << still You dont need to worry about it

Yes, minors can be paedophiliacs. I know because I work in a place that treats them, among other young people with other problems. There is an increasing number of people under 18 who molest younger children. Maybe though, just maybe, this is nothing new, and the men who are doing it now simply never got caught when they were 16 and started on their first five year old. And yes, many of them were molested themselves. Some of them, however, were not, and it seems to be something they were born with.

I only pray that the treatment and education they get where I work does something to stop them offending again. If not, many of them are registered as sex offenders, and are being discouraged from doing it again by the threat of further incarceration.

No, I was just wondering, really. It's kind of a philosophical question, like "what is the sound of one-handed clapping?"
Well I'm doing it with each right now. Its kinda cool. You saying you can't?
Bart Siumpsons did it too.
I can't describe the sound because I've never been good at describing sounds lol. If you go to Virginia I could show you sound :)