NationStates Jolt Archive

Read here. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/10/13/MNGT398SUV1.DTL)

Sen. John Edwards, the Democratic vice presidential candidate, took a rare break from his trek through the battleground states Tuesday with a quick trip to Los Angeles and San Francisco.

"Remember: three more weeks, three more weeks,'' the North Carolina senator told more than 750 well-heeled supporters at the Yerba Buena Center on Tuesday evening.

The San Francisco event raised $1.5 million for the Democratic campaign, and an upbeat Edwards gave the partisan crowd what it wanted to hear. In a stinging attack on President Bush, Edwards previewed many of the points his running mate, Sen. John Kerry, will make tonight in the final presidential debate.

"George Bush is out of touch with what's happening in the real world,'' Edwards said. "He's out of touch with what's happening with jobs and the economy.''

Edwards talked about people who have lost their health insurance since Bush took office and others who are struggling to pay the soaring cost of premiums.

"As far as I can tell, the Bush health care plan for the past four years has been 'Don't get sick,' '' Edwards said.

The recent rise in gasoline prices has been "a tax on American consumers, '' Edwards said, that can only be remedied by trimming the country's use of foreign oil.

"Both the president and the vice president have deep ties to the oil industry,'' the senator said. "What is the chance that they'll do anything to move us away from our dependence on foreign oil? It's not going to happen.''

Edwards called the situation in Iraq "a mess'' and blamed it on Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"George Bush continues to say to the American people, 'Don't believe your own eyes. ... Everything is going well in Iraq,' '' he said. "The last two people in America who believe things are going well in Iraq are George Bush and Dick Cheney.''

For Edwards, it was a rare chance to spend time in a state where he and Kerry are running comfortably ahead of the GOP ticket. The respite was a brief one, however. Edwards flew from the battleground state of Colorado to Los Angeles for an appearance on "The Tonight Show" with Jay Leno to San Francisco for a 20-minute stop at the fund-raiser before heading to Oregon, another state viewed as a battleground.

"John and I know what needs to be done,'' Edwards said in San Francisco. "We just need a chance to do it.''

Talking with Leno at the late afternoon taping in Burbank, Edwards was in turns silly and serious while chatting about issues ranging from Iraq to chubby Secret Service agents.

Leno asked Edwards if he could beat the president in a foot race.

Edwards, who said he jogged about 5 miles Tuesday, reminded the audience he played football as a student. Bush, he noted, was on a cheering squad.

Bush "was on the side, with his pompons," Edwards said. "I don't know, can you run fast with those cheerleading outfits on?"

Was this before or after Edwards called Kerry some sort of faith-healer?

Was this before or after Edwards called Kerry some sort of faith-healer?

I'm still waiting to see a link to that speech.

I'm still waiting to see a link to that speech.
I haven't seen a transcript, but I have seen the video... "People like Christopher Reeves will get up and walk" if we elect Kerry.

Not so much a faith healer as a miracle-worker then.

These people are fuckin car salesmen, they tell you what you want to hear and lie lie lie all damn day.

I haven't seen a transcript, but I have seen the video... "People like Christopher Reeves will get up and walk" if we elect Kerry.

Um, I notice you end the quote after the "get up and walk". I'm looking for context and you're not providing it. Could you please provide the preceding and following lines?

This is exactly what Edwards said;

"Christopher Reeve just passed away, and America just lost a great champion for this cause, somebody who was a powerful voice for the need to do stem cell research and change the lives of people like him, who have gone through a tragedy. Well, if we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."

Kerry or no, Chris ain't walkin. I want his chair.

This is exactly what Edwards said;

"Christopher Reeve just passed away, and America just lost a great champion for this cause, somebody who was a powerful voice for the need to do stem cell research and change the lives of people like him, who have gone through a tragedy. Well, if we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."

Thank you. This is precisely the context that indicates Edwards wasn't claiming Kerry is a faith healer or miracle worker. Surely those of you making that jab can see it.

I don't care what he said; "It was in poor taste."

Thank you. This is precisely the context that indicates Edwards wasn't claiming Kerry is a faith healer or miracle worker. Surely those of you making that jab can see it.
It sure sounds like miracle worker to me... stem cell research (this is the subject at hand after all) is in it's infancy, particularly embryonic stem cell research. To say something that leads people to believe that electing Kerry will cause people to "get up and walk again" is demogoguery at it's finest.

Kerry and Edwards will say anything to get votes. Not only do they, like many candidates, use language that can be easily misconstrued to be more favorable to them than it really is, but K&E will actually come right out and say things that are outright lies. Does anybody REALLY think Kerry's mom, on her deathbed, told him to remember one thing: 'Integrity'? If you believe that bullshit that the Kennedy-wannabe came up with off the top of his head, I feel sorry for you.

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It sure sounds like miracle worker to me... stem cell research (this is the subject at hand after all) is in it's infancy, particularly embryonic stem cell research. To say something that leads people to believe that electing Kerry will cause people to "get up and walk again" is demogoguery at it's finest.

Silly. He says that the cure will come from the work that America can do. Not from Kerry. Also, saying that the work will come under Kerry's administration versus Bush's administration is true. Which is why when you take things out of context, you can always make someone look bad.

Kerry and Edwards will say anything to get votes. Not only do they, like many candidates, use language that can be easily misconstrued to be more favorable to them than it really is, but K&E will actually come right out and say things that are outright lies. Does anybody REALLY think Kerry's mom, on her deathbed, told him to remember one thing: 'Integrity'? If you believe that bullshit that the Kennedy-wannabe came up with off the top of his head, I feel sorry for you.

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I feel sorry for you if you're latching on to what Kerry says his mother told him on her death bed. I'd rather focus on policy lies that the candidates are making.