NationStates Jolt Archive

I think that LBJ and Fidel conspired to kill Kennedy. It just doesn't make any sense to me that one average Joe Blow like Lee Harvey Oswald could solely carry out the assassination of a US president who was guarded by I don't know how many secret service agents. In the next 20 years the sealed records will be released and we will know the truth. The history channel documentary showed that he was shot from multiple angles, so unless Oswald was Flash Gordon he could not have shot from that many angles. That's my Oliver Stone conspiracy theory.

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Ah, the conspiracy theroy thread.
Reminds me of a different fromer President. How did that old saying go? Oh, yes, "There's more conspiracy involved with JFK, than Jimmy Carter has peanuts."

Everybody assumes that JFK wasn't in on it.

Everybody assumes that JFK wasn't in on it.

Obviously- the man wouldn't want to kill himself.

Obviously- the man wouldn't want to kill himself.
Or would he?!?!

Perhaps he is actually alive to this day, ruling the world in secret with Elvis, Amelia Earhart, Hitler, and the original Lassie from a secret base under the south pole!!!!

Seriously though, who kills an assassin without some secret being hidden?

Or would he?!?!

Perhaps he is actually alive to this day, ruling the world in secret with Elvis, Amelia Earhart, Hitler, and the original Lassie from a secret base under the south pole!!!!

Seriously though, who kills an assassin without some secret being hidden?

Lassie? I knew it! No wonder this world is screwed up!

On a serious aspect, John F. Kennedy really didn't gain much with his assassination- his family may have become famous, but nobody became President. So I don't believe JFK would have orchestrated his own assassination.

There were two conspiracies involved with the death of J.FK.

1. His killers. Who and why.

2. The conspiracy to cover up his assassination.

I believe Kennedy was killed by the mafia.
Robert and J.F.K had been actively pursuing organized crime for a while, and many Mafia Dons feared Kennedys aims.

So....they hired the best assassins around, and set up Oswald to take the fall.
Jack Ruby was also hired to kill Oswald, because he was likely to talk.

Remember Oswalds quote "Im a patsy!".

The conspiracy (mainly the Warren Commission) were hired to give the Lone Gunman Theory, becuase the public would be scared to death to know that a Criminal organization could easily disrupt the most powerful nation on earth.
Back then, people had more faith in their government than they do now.
If the average citizen knew that the Mafia could kill the President anytime they wanted...what do you suppose the reaction would be?

"I shouted out, who killed the Kennedys, well after all, it was you and me."
-Sympathy for the Devil.

I saw hitler and amelia holding hands at the kwik e mart :fluffle:

It sure would help if they'd locate Kennedy's brain.. then we could be done with it. Still, Oswald was a Marine, who qualified 'expert' in marksmanship.. so. Also, the History Channel has apologized to LBJ's family for their documentary.

i have a much wierder theory as to who and what killed jfk then anything i've yet heard from anyone.

it sounds wierd even to me, but it is based upon what is known of the facts and the evidence.

first of all, the thing with ozwald, well he could have takin a shot at kennidy from somewhere. maybe he did, maybe he didn't. supposedly he had a rifle and the will to do so.

but the bullet that entered kennidy's brain was not fired from the tenth floor of any building. period.

it could have been fired from the grassy knoll, or from within the motorcade.

it is pretty well established as unambiguously as that there was an oswald with a gun and a will to cause bodily harm, that there were also proffessional assassins hired, and at least one may have been seen by several witnessess firing from the grassy knoll.

i have no idea what, if anything any of these persons may have hit.

but i believe the shot that actualy killed kennidy was fired by accident and was not an intentional assassination at all. and it was this that the warn commission conspired to cover up. because who's gun it was accidentaly fired from would have been a real embarrasment to everyone involved.

so the gave us oswald and ruby kept him from being able to tell us anything. i don't think ruby's killing of oswald is likely to have been any mere coincidence and i don't thing very many people who were arround at the time were convinced it was either.

and of course a combination of events like that cannot help but spawn endless conspiracy theories, many of them quite plausable and consistent with known facts.

but i believe the bullet that killed kennidy was fired accidently from the front seat of the car he was riding in from seat level.

by a gun in a holster that had gotten uncomfortably jamed under the person wearing it's butt. and in trying to rearrainge himself less uncomfortably it accidentaly went off.

the irony being the person who'se gun it was, had worn it, dispite his personal politics and feelings, with the intention of protecting kennidy should it become neccessary to do so, which was not at all unlikely that it might have.

i don't need to name names. i think everyone who remembers those events also remembers who'se foot also got shot in the proccess with a bullet from the same gun.

i conjecture this as it is consistent with the path of the bullet through kennidy's head and brain, which none of the assassination theories seem or appear to me to be.

this is one of those homsian, when the impossible has been eliminated, whatever remains however improbable sorts of things.

like i say i know all that SOUNDS goofy and i'll admit it does even to myself, but it does fit the facts as such as i have every reason to believe them to be.

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Except for the fact that the nearest gun was on the hip of the Secret service agent seen running onto the back of the car in the Zapruder film.
Nowhere have I ever heard about a gun being carried by anyone in the Presidential Limo.

Besides, Kennedy was shot twice, once in the upper chest, and one in the head.

There were two conspiracies involved with the death of J.FK.

1. His killers. Who and why.

2. The conspiracy to cover up his assassination.

I believe Kennedy was killed by the mafia.
Robert and J.F.K had been actively pursuing organized crime for a while, and many Mafia Dons feared Kennedys aims.

So....they hired the best assassins around, and set up Oswald to take the fall.
Jack Ruby was also hired to kill Oswald, because he was likely to talk.

Remember Oswalds quote "Im a patsy!".

The conspiracy (mainly the Warren Commission) were hired to give the Lone Gunman Theory, becuase the public would be scared to death to know that a Criminal organization could easily disrupt the most powerful nation on earth.
Back then, people had more faith in their government than they do now.
If the average citizen knew that the Mafia could kill the President anytime they wanted...what do you suppose the reaction would be?

BINGO!

Also don't forget how betrayed the mob felt because Kennedy's father had made them all kinds of promises to get him elected in the first place. Then after all the money and labour union support that got him elected, Bobby turns around as Attorney General and went after them. The obvious link is Jack Ruby who clearly had ties to the mob. Too bad he didn't talk before he died. But I think it's fairly safe to say the mystery is solved.. and this is what happened. I agree 100% with you.

Indeed.

I also think that the same group, or groups, were responsible for the assassination of R.F.K as well.

Also, you ever wonder why Teddy Kennedy never ran for Pres? (Chappaquiddick, maybe..)

I have to wonder what the full reports say on them, and not just the Warren Commission findings that have been sealed away until 2025.
The reasoning behind that, is that by then, all the involved parties will be dead.