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After reading such enlightened threads about the Dresden firebombing, the Pentagon attacks, etc., I've decided to jump on the bandwagon of idiocy. So here's my question: What was so bad about slavery? It stimulated the African economy, eventually led the way to giving Blacks citizenship, and gave us our cotton and corn that we all love so much. So what if a few million people were sold by cattle and died on the long voyage over here, it doesn't really matter! I mean, if you want to talk about bad things, let's talk about how Israel keeps oppressing the people who kill its civilians, or how America keeps killing innocent orphans with A-bombs, or how Republicans just want to kill anyone who isn't white and invade the world. Come on guys, if slavery was really so bad, Black people wouldn't have sold Black people!

After reading such enlightened threads about the Dresden firebombing, the Pentagon attacks, etc., I've decided to jump on the bandwagon of idiocy. So here's my question: What was so bad about slavery? It stimulated the African economy, eventually led the way to giving Blacks citizenship, and gave us our cotton and corn that we all love so much. So what if a few million people were sold by cattle and died on the long voyage over here, it doesn't really matter! I mean, if you want to talk about bad things, let's talk about how Israel keeps oppressing the people who kill its civilians, or how America keeps killing innocent orphans with A-bombs, or how Republicans just want to kill anyone who isn't white and invade the world. Come on guys, if slavery was really so bad, Black people wouldn't have sold Black people!

Welcome to the bandwagon of idiocy! I'm Tex, and I'll be your tour guide...

Seriously though, if murder was really so bad, people wouldn't murder other people, right?

Reductio Ad Absurdum...ROFL OLOLOLOLOLO!11!111

You're exactly right! What is bad about murder! If you kill a religious person, you just send them to Heaven, if you kill an athiest, well, accidents happen. But hey! It's cool, you're just doing them a favor they don't know about nor will appreciate.

Welcome to the bandwagon of idiocy! I'm Tex, and I'll be your tour guide...

Seriously though, if murder was really so bad, people wouldn't murder other people, right?

Reductio Ad Absurdum...ROFL OLOLOLOLOLO!11!111

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lol well you have a coupel of points about slavery there.. but the baalnce is not in your favor.. infact the balance not in your favour is so f**king heavy that it catapaults you and your points like a medieval trebuchet!!!!

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Arammanar, you disaprove of open sexuality in the same way you disaprove of murder.

Yet you make a stand on racial issues. In fact you pick an issue which...well - slavery was wrong, very wrong. I would never say it was a good thing. But it was for the best in the end; certainaly it was better than genocide, although thats not much of a reccomendation. Do you feel you might be posting this for the wrong reasons?

Which would you have chosen? Clearly of course if the more flamboyountly dressed of the African men were to have approached you in a...social...manner...

Pardon me if i am overstepping the mark - and apolagies to anyone who is offended by my reading of slavery - i dont approve of it, but from an objective point of view i prefer it to genocide.

Arammanar, you disaprove of open sexuality in the same way you disaprove of murder.

Yet you make a stand on racial issues. In fact you pick an issue which...well - slavery was wrong, very wrong. I would never say it was a good thing. But it was for the best in the end, and it was certainaly better than genocide, although thats not much of a reccomendation. Do you feel you might be posting this for the wrong reasons?

Which would you have chosen? Clearly of course if the more flamboyountly dressed of the African men were to have approached you in a...social...manner...

Pardon me if i am overstepping the mark - and apolagies to anyone who is offended by my reading of slavery - i dont approve of it, but from an objective point of view i prefer it to genocide.
I'm not for slavery. I made this thread as a point relating to the stupid topics created by such individuals as Texastambul.

That strikes me as evasion. I was expecting more of your razor wit.

That strikes me as evasion. I was expecting more of your razor wit.
What am I evading? I didn't see your question...

Not the question. The issue. If you see fit to post about slavery...which is not a particularly light hearted subject...id expect good taste to dictate that you take it a little seriously...i thought id see if you would. It might take your mind off posting things like this - which have less wit to them than you might think.

I'm not for slavery. I made this thread as a point relating to the stupid topics created by such individuals as Texastambul.

Trolls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll) annoying. Don't make the same mistake as the troll which annoys you...

Not the question. The issue. If you see fit to post about slavery...which is not a particularly light hearted subject...id expect good taste to dictate that you take it a little seriously...i thought id see if you would. It might take your mind off posting things like this - which have less wit to them than you might think.
Then you missed the point entirely. I posted this specifically because people were posting about non-lighthearted subjects in a very callous, and dare I say ignorant way. I simply took an issue that is generally universally acknowledged as "bad."

Slavery was cool.

Their posts are not entirely ignorant, and yours is not entirely...no...scratch that. In fact there was no need for you to bother at all. That could possibly be extended to you getting up today, or eating, or possibly drinking water.

That is rather personal and i apolagise, i probably dont mean it, but since by your rules its okey to say things because somone else seems to be acting "ignorantly", you cant possibly have a problem with it, yes?

Im off for a while...I think a sociable drink will make me more able to deal on your level.

If it weren't for slaves I wouldn't have this nifty, beer fetching footstool! :headbang:

Their posts are not entirely ignorant, and yours is not entirely...no...scratch that. In fact there was no need for you to bother at all. That could possibly be extended to you getting up today, or eating, or possibly drinking water.

That is rather personal and i apolagise, i probably dont mean it, but since by your rules its okey to say things because somone else seems to be acting "ignorantly", you cant possibly have a problem with it, yes?

Im off for a while...I think a sociable drink will make me more able to deal on your level.
Oh good, if this is the level of mental functioning you have sober, seeing you drunk will be a real treat.

Oh good, if this is the level of mental functioning you have sober, seeing you drunk will be a real treat.

While that was clever, it was still a flame, Arammanar. And Stephistan is prowling the forums now so I'd keep it cool if I were you. :)

While that was clever, it was still a flame, Arammanar. And Stephistan is prowling the forums now so I'd keep it cool if I were you. :)
Well, he did entreat me to starve myself to death...but whatever, he needs to stop trolling.

Actually i think you will find that what i said was a drink or two would put me on your level...i was too subtle, maybe? Well done for reading what you wanted to, at any rate.

Also i 'entreated' you in no way shape or form, i stated that it just might have been better. Like i said, i probably didnt mean it.

Later...

Actually i think you will find that what i said was a drink or two would put me on your level...i was too subtle, maybe? Well done for reading what you wanted to, at any rate.

Also i 'entreated' you in no way shape or form, i stated that it just might have been better. Like i said, i probably didnt mean it.

Later...
Sorry, I got lost in the tangled maze of idiocy that seems to hang around your posts. Please forgive me and get back on to the topic of how slavery is actually good.

There’s nothing wrong with a little slavery. It’s when they become commodities, that’s where the problem starts.

Arammanar, the maze is there to catch out the idiots...

the problems with slavery weren't so much slavery as how a lot of the slave owners acted towards their slaves.

If a slave owner treated their slave properly, there was nothing wrong with it at all.

However noone deserves to be treated as badly as a "badly treated slave" could be, and there in lies the problem, leaving people in a situation that can promote it.

Welcome to the bandwagon of idiocy! I'm Tex, and I'll be your tour guide...

Seriously though, if murder was really so bad, people wouldn't murder other people, right?

Reductio Ad Absurdum...ROFL OLOLOLOLOLO!11!111

You are a ridiculous person......

Anywho, think of it: Would you want to be a slave?

the problems with slavery weren't so much slavery as how a lot of the slave owners acted towards their slaves.

If a slave owner treated their slave properly, there was nothing wrong with it at all.

However noone deserves to be treated as badly as a "badly treated slave" could be, and there in lies the problem, leaving people in a situation that can promote it.

I hardly think there was ever any justification for slavery. Life would have been easier if slave owners treated their slaves better, perhaps the Abolishonists wouldn't have been such a force. America was settled by religious fanatics in the begining where slavery somehow brought them closer to God. Converting the "savages" of Africa was a good justification for such a vile practice. Enslave the people and make them Christian. We got cheap labor and they got to have their souls saved, it was win win! Yeah. Slavery was evil for the simple fact that one human owning another human being is wrong. The soldiers in the ancient Greek city-state of Sparta knew that so they kept barracks of soldiers nearby for constant fear of slave rebellion. This fear would be groundless if the institution had nothing wrong with it.

slavery was the basis of the classical civilisation's sucesses, you could say - and in the long run that was probably a good thing. The forced slavery of african peoples was not necessary, but it did in the long run leave both slaved and slavers better off - though thats not to say the end justifies the means...but as i said slavery beats genocide.

The problem with looking at the bigger picture is that it can come across as being coldhearted.

After reading such enlightened threads about the Dresden firebombing, the Pentagon attacks, etc., I've decided to jump on the bandwagon of idiocy. So here's my question: What was so bad about slavery? It stimulated the African economy, eventually led the way to giving Blacks citizenship, and gave us our cotton and corn that we all love so much. So what if a few million people were sold by cattle and died on the long voyage over here, it doesn't really matter! I mean, if you want to talk about bad things, let's talk about how Israel keeps oppressing the people who kill its civilians, or how America keeps killing innocent orphans with A-bombs, or how Republicans just want to kill anyone who isn't white and invade the world. Come on guys, if slavery was really so bad, Black people wouldn't have sold Black people!

Yes. Slavery is a bad thing. Thank God we got rid of it. Its dead and we should stop bickering about it. Just make sure it doesn't happen again. And try to stop where it still exists.

slavery was the basis of the classical civilisation's sucesses, you could say - and in the long run that was probably a good thing. The forced slavery of african peoples was not necessary, but it did in the long run leave both slaved and slavers better off - though thats not to say the end justifies the means...but as i said slavery beats genocide.

The problem with looking at the bigger picture is that it can come across as being coldhearted.

Hmm... well yes. I do suppose it beats genocide. I'll give you that. And yes, classical civilization did do well with slavery. But in the modern world, it won't.

After reading such enlightened threads about the Dresden firebombing, the Pentagon attacks, etc., I've decided to jump on the bandwagon of idiocy. So here's my question: What was so bad about slavery? It stimulated the African economy, eventually led the way to giving Blacks citizenship, and gave us our cotton and corn that we all love so much. So what if a few million people were sold by cattle and died on the long voyage over here, it doesn't really matter! I mean, if you want to talk about bad things, let's talk about how Israel keeps oppressing the people who kill its civilians, or how America keeps killing innocent orphans with A-bombs, or how Republicans just want to kill anyone who isn't white and invade the world. Come on guys, if slavery was really so bad, Black people wouldn't have sold Black people!

Calling all cars, calling all cars; that village's missing idiot has been found!

I love it. A very funny joke leads to a serious, yet ultimately pointless, debate. Everybody knows slavery was wrong.

But what about the Scots? Does anyone else have any uninformed prejudices against those skirt-wearing, porage-eating, ginger-nuts?

Agreed.

I love it. A very funny joke leads to a serious, yet ultimately pointless, debate. Everybody knows slavery was wrong.

But what about the Scots? Does anyone else have any uninformed prejudices against those skirt-wearing, porage-eating, ginger-nuts?
slavery was not wrong
but some of the metheds used were
and when it was abolished all the blacks should have been shiped back to afrika

slavery was not wrong
but some of the metheds used were
and when it was abolished all the blacks should have been shiped back to afrika
We tried that with Liberia. They didn't want to go.

I love it. A very funny joke leads to a serious, yet ultimately pointless, debate. Everybody knows slavery was wrong.

But what about the Scots? Does anyone else have any uninformed prejudices against those skirt-wearing, porage-eating, ginger-nuts?
And what about the Irish, while we're at it? The white niggers, as it were.
What's a seven course Irish meal?





Six pack and a potatoe. ;)

And what about the Irish, while we're at it? The white niggers, as it were.
What's a seven course Irish meal?





Six pack and a potatoe. ;)
What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish funeral?



One less drunk.

slavery was not wrong
but some of the metheds used were
and when it was abolished all the blacks should have been shiped back to afrika

How was slavery not wrong? Southerners who didn't feel like picking their own cotten decided to force someone else to do it. Some cultures in the past didn't mistreat their slaves and have total racisim for the people. the whole make a slave 2/3 a person wasn't exactly a positive thing was it? Even that only occured because the North didn't was the South to get extra representation in Congress by counting the slave population who weren't exactly constituents.

... a few million people were sold by cattle....

Which is why I never trust bovines!

Which is why I never trust bovines!
I don't know what's more impressive, the fact I accidentally revealed Farmyardgate, or that it took 3 pages for someone to notice...

Now all I can think of is some bizarre Gary Larson cartoon...
*shudder*

I follow the bible it says I can own slaves from other nations and stone my neighbours to death if they swear. So I'm damn well gunna do it.

How was slavery not wrong? Southerners who didn't feel like picking their own cotten decided to force someone else to do it. Some cultures in the past didn't mistreat their slaves and have total racisim for the people. the whole make a slave 2/3 a person wasn't exactly a positive thing was it? Even that only occured because the North didn't was the South to get extra representation in Congress by counting the slave population who weren't exactly constituents.
2/3rd? I was pretty sure it was like 2/5th...and it wasn't because of anything the North wanted. The North said that if they don't vote, they don't count as citizens. The south wanted to count them as partial citizens so the south could balance the powers in the House. The North didn't want to count them so that the North would maintain power.
Anyway...racism always existed, don't fool yourself kid...

We tried that with Liberia. They didn't want to go.

Some did. Not all though.