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In my part of Canada a litre of milk costs about two bucks on average. Gas still weighs in at less than half that price. Gas is slowly gaining, but there's been a huge gap in price as long as I can remember.

This does not make sense to me. Mind you, I'm not really talking about the recent fluctuations in the price of oil - I just think it's bizarre that a non-renewable resource like oil, which goes through some pretty intense industrial processing, can still be shipped to your gas tank for less than the cost of squeezing a cow's udders and boiling it's residues.

Thoughts? Anecdotes? Nasty comments? Spiteful mods?

Well, a good milk cow is hard to breed. Then you have to raise it so that it's capable of producing milk. Then the milk itself has to be pasteurized, skimmed, etc. Then you have the packaging costs, shipping costs, and the store's price overhead.
One messed-up system...

I think you are being ripped off on the price of milk. Here it drops as low as A$1.40/LT (about C$1.50 I think).

I don't know how petrol is so cheap, I really don't. Even worse are the A$2.50/600mL bottles of Coke they sell at the petrol station. Sugared water costs more than petrol. Scary.

And Visine is one of the most expensive liquids on the planet. About $4 CDN for a 25 mL bottle...

Sunday I paid $3.49 for 4litres of milk,gas-81.4cents per litre
(pacific coast price) :mad:

You think the price of milk is bad? Have you seen the price for a quart of Bull milk? Now that is expensive!

Whatever supply and demand dictates you pay, you pay. :) Not meant as a flame, but it goes for milk, oil etc. Sometimes it sucks, but we gotta deal. :headbang:

Polysporin antibiotic ear/eye drops, $8 CAN for 10 ml (I get ear infections)

Personally...I have no problem as an omnivore with killing an animal and eating it's flesh. I do however, get creeped out for some reason, with the idea of drinking another animal's milk.

Think about it for a second, it's kind of revolting :)

Right, anyway...that had nothing to do with the original question :P However, I do think there should be a high price on milk...there has to be some punitive cost to cover the considerable loss of years that your average milk cow suffers :p

If petrol came in 1 letre containers then the price would proabably go up a bit.

Personally...I have no problem as an omnivore with killing an animal and eating it's flesh. I do however, get creeped out for some reason, with the idea of drinking another animal's milk.

Think about it for a second, it's kind of revolting :)

Right, anyway...that had nothing to do with the original question :P However, I do think there should be a high price on milk...there has to be some punitive cost to cover the considerable loss of years that your average milk cow suffers :p

If you really think about it sex is kinda gross but i still like to hump the ladies(get stoned and just think)

Think about it for a second, it's kind of revolting :) :p


Well, it does disturb me sometimes...but then I think of how I love cream in my coffee, and I get over it.

Still, it seems like gas prices are either artificially low, or milk is artificially high, or both...I just can't see how it could naturally be skewed that way. I mean, we're talking heavy-duty petrochemicals you need to extract, transport and refine versus squeezing the teats of big lumbering herbivores, boiling up the results, and sticking it into cardboard boxes. Even the packaging is none too fancy, usually a two-colour print job at best.

If you really think about it sex is kinda gross but i still like to hump the ladies(get stoned and just think)

Just make sure you get that sequence right, otherwise you might get too stoned and caught up in your thoughts to actually hump anything, let alone the ladies...

Just kidding. In fact, I'm gonna light me up some 'frappy' right now...

Always get the sequence right,Never ever heard it called 'frappy' but i'm going for a 'frappie' soon too 'cheers'

Ah, grasshopper - to know 'frappy' is to know the tao of the Subgenius...

'Havafropzipulops', better known as 'frop' or 'frappy'...one of our greatest resources in the eternal search for Slack...

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What the Hell, it's only a website. No wait, it's a NationStates region, too...

Hey, this is good 'frappy', I'll tell you...

You think the price of milk is bad? Have you seen the price for a quart of Bull milk? Now that is expensive!


Uhh..thats not....

Err....its actually....

Nevermind.

How does it taste?

anyone who thinks milk production is
squeezing the teats of big lumbering herbivores, boiling up the results, and sticking it into cardboard boxes. Even the packaging is none too fancy, usually a two-colour print job at best.

has missed all the things that come first. everything from paying for a vet to deliver the cow to feeding the think for years before it produces any milk, paying for the "bulls Milk" to make the cow pregnant, paying for a vet to come round and deliver that cows child, THEN it will be possible to milk the cow.
this procedure has to be repeated regulaly or the cow stops producing.

there's a lot involved and most dairy farmers have a hard time turning a profit round here.

essell from cornwall, big dairy farming area in england.

Well, there's a reply that helps put things in perspective. Thanks!

Gasoline should cost you far, far more than milk in today's society. I am aware that gasoline isn't only used for cars but drivers should be taxed until they bleed.

In contrast, milk is wonderful! Enjoy! (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7210899#post7210899)

It's those goddamn tariffs that stop us from flooding your market with cheap milk.

Here in New Zealand, 3 litres of milk costs around $3.30 NZ - about $1.80 USD

Why pay for it? Visit your local cow!

:D

Why pay for it? Visit your local cow!

:D
Step #1: Make sure it's a cow

Guerilla milking? Dairy Dash-and-Grab (an udder)?

Sounds cool, I'm in.

should and shouldn't.

bad terms for the open market.

Could and couldn't perhaps.

It's possible that it will cost more, what you forget though is the labour involved in just the milking, then there's demand.

My house of 3 ppl uses about a litre of milk a week, and probably 120 litres of petrol (gas).

And a jet plane would use probably more fuel than the crew and possibly half the passengers use milk in a lifetime.

Btw, the main reason fuel prices are on the rise and will continue to do so is because of China and a lesser extent India industrialising, and gradually adding possibly 3 times as many consumers as not so long ago.

My house of 3 ppl uses about a litre of milk a week
:eek:

I drink almost a litre of milk a day

Yeah I put back a ludicrous amount of milk, too. Worse since I've been putting cream in my coffee.

Yum.

Milk and gas are about equal here, at around $2 per gallon. The real way to go is to get yourself a goat, which you can do for about 150 dollars (for a good doe). 50 per year for insemination, which you can quadruple your money on by selling the kid (again, if you bought from a good bloodline), bringing your total expense to $0.00 or even a profit. Do this, and you'll never run low on milk again. Plus, goatmilk's better for you than cowmilk any day of the week.

Milk and gas are about equal here, at around $2 per gallon. The real way to go is to get yourself a goat, which you can do for about 150 dollars (for a good doe). 50 per year for insemination, which you can quadruple your money on by selling the kid (again, if you bought from a good bloodline), bringing your total expense to $0.00 or even a profit. Do this, and you'll never run low on milk again. Plus, goatmilk's better for you than cowmilk any day of the week.
Goatmilk? :(

Milk and gas are about equal here, at around $2 per gallon. The real way to go is to get yourself a goat, which you can do for about 150 dollars (for a good doe). 50 per year for insemination, which you can quadruple your money on by selling the kid (again, if you bought from a good bloodline), bringing your total expense to $0.00 or even a profit. Do this, and you'll never run low on milk again. Plus, goatmilk's better for you than cowmilk any day of the week.

Does it go well in coffee? Where are you writing from? I've been musing over the idea of leaving the city for the north, actually- the topic of goats has come up several times. Aren't they difficult to manage? Always running away and such? Eating poisonous plants?

Goatmilk? :(

Yup. Smaller fat molecules = easier digestion. Great for infants and the elderly, and good for the rest of us in general. Plus, goats are cheap to keep and make great pets.

Yup. Smaller fat molecules = easier digestion. Great for infants and the elderly, and good for the rest of us in general. Plus, goats are cheap to keep and make great pets.
Do they sell goatmilk in normal stores? Or do you have to go some place special?

Does it go well in coffee? Where are you writing from? I've been musing over the idea of leaving the city for the north, actually- the topic of goats has come up several times. Aren't they difficult to manage? Always running away and such? Eating poisonous plants?

They're actually very manageable, but need a good solid fence even in isolation. They eat just about everything in their path, including paper, books and cloth (anything with cellulose in it). Still, they're not the tin can-eating, ill-tempered animals you see in the Our Gang skits. They're very friendly, take good care of themselves, are largely disease-resistant and are a good cost-effective value.

Edit: I'm writing from Southern California, and keep Alpines.