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Euthanasia. Should it be legal?

Krikaroo
10-10-2004, 01:21
All across the world euthanasia is occaisionly being brought up in debates, as whether it should be legalized or not. When you contribute to the poll remember to leave your arguments for/against euthanasia being legalized.

I think it should be legalized as many people who currently have painfull diseases are still alive against their wishes. Many of them seak euthanasia and others die at home under horrible conditions (eg. cut wrists, hanging themselves). Legalized euthanasia supplies the patients with comfortable surroundings to spend there last minutes on earth and drugs that kill them with no pain.
Chikyota
10-10-2004, 01:23
I believe it should be legalized as well. A person has the right to decide what to do with their own life.
Krikaroo
10-10-2004, 01:25
If anyone thinks of a new argument for or against euthanasia that hasn't really been discussed remember to bring it up in the thread.
BastardSword
10-10-2004, 01:25
All across the world euthanasia is occaisionly being brought up in debates, as whether it should be legalized or not. When you contribute to the poll remember to leave your arguments for/against euthanasia being legalized.

I think it should be legalized as many people who currently have painfull diseases are still alive against their wishes. Many of them seak euthanasia and others die at home under horrible conditions (eg. cut wrists, hanging themselves). Legalized euthanasia supplies the patients with comfortable surroundings to spend there last minutes on earth and drugs that kill them with no pain.

Passive, active, or doctor assisted? They are all different.

I say yes to Passive, no to the others.

Yes to passive, because its already legal. Its just letting you die, but active is forcing you to die. Its removing objects like resusitators because they are deemed unable to be effiencent. Or benefits are few.

HMO's are why to be against Active. HMo's might decide its cheaper to kill than save. Greed is HMO's mo. Doctor kills you, example Doctor Korvekian was arrested and put in jail for injecting a man with a lethal substance.

Why not Doctor assisted due to every natural function in body struggles to keep body alive. You are going against your own body's wishes. Doctor hands you something that you kill yourself with. Doctor just gives you the means.


So again, what is the poll asking?
Superpower07
10-10-2004, 01:27
I don't want somebody to suffer if they are in such terrible pain and there is absolutely no chance of a cure . . . however I still have my qualms over using euthanasia

I remain undecided
Krikaroo
10-10-2004, 01:29
Passive, active, or doctor assisted? They are all different.

I say yes to Passive, no to the others.

Ok, maybe I should have included the different versions of euthanasia but for this thread just vote for euthanasia in general.
BastardSword
10-10-2004, 01:34
Ok, maybe I should have included the different versions of euthanasia but for this thread just vote for euthanasia in general.
What do you mean?
Its like asking do you like Presidents? They are many bad presidents, but in general you change whole meaning of their opinion.

So do you mean Active: Doctor kills you?
Doctor assisted: Doctor gives you tools that you kill yourself with?
Pasive: removes equipment that Might save you?

Please just tell me...
Krikaroo
10-10-2004, 01:37
What do you mean?
Its like asking do you like Presidents? They are many bad presidents, but in general you change whole meaning of their opinion.

So do you mean Active: Doctor kills you?
Doctor assisted: Doctor gives you tools that you kill yourself with?
Pasive: removes equipment that Might save you?

Please just tell me...

All of those, any form of suicide, or euthanasia. Any death helped by one other.
Krikaroo
10-10-2004, 01:44
Ok, if it makes everyone happy I'm going to make a new thread for euthanasia and a poll with more options.
Alfandra
10-10-2004, 01:48
What the heck are HMOs?
Nimzonia
10-10-2004, 01:51
Why the hell do we bother stopping people from killing themselves?
Steevopolis
10-10-2004, 01:57
I completely believe euthanasia should be legal, providing the decision is left to be made by the subject/patient, and the process is actively assisted by an MD, to keep it as clean and quick as possible. Oftentimes, terminal illness is treatable insofar as staving off death, but from the standpoint of the patient, humiliating. Historically, many of the cultures we look back on with the most respect or awe are those that allowed and/or encouraged voluntary suicide to support ones sense of honor (Feudal Japan and Imperial China, for example). Perhaps this is because their sense of pride drove them to success, as opposed to fear of the unknown driving them to any lengths to avoid what they fear, if only for a short time. :sniper:



Steevo :headbang:
Steevopolis
10-10-2004, 02:01
What the heck are HMOs?


HMO is short for Health Maintenence Organization. It's a type of health insurance, renowned for emphasising preventative medicine, and horribly neglecting anything serious that should arise unforseen, as well as preexisting conditions. Upside, they're cheap. I personally pay $140/month for a PPO covering myself and my son (PPO's are a slightly more flexible type of insurance that works better with unexpected crapiness), and would only pay about $50/month if I took my employers HMO plan.


Steevo :headbang:
Krikaroo
10-10-2004, 02:01
Ok, be honest everyone, should I make a new euthanasia poll with multiple choice options on it and some new options. The new options would include active euthanasia, passive euthanasia and doctor assisted euthanasia. Or are you people just happy with this poll that is already here?
The River Cam
10-10-2004, 02:01
Support Euthanasia Y/N. Is it really that black and white? My church supports "death with dignity." I think euthanasia would be ok if it was limited to patient initiated (while mentally competent to do so) methods. I am definitely not for Lois Lowry The Giver style euthanasia in which those who have passed a certain age or who are not viably healthy are simply deleted from society.
Krikaroo
10-10-2004, 02:07
Ok, I'm going to make a new poll whether you like it or not, it's going to be called Euthanasia: 3rd poll don't look at the Euthanasia: the new improved poll I made a mistake on the poll there...
Jever Pilsener
10-10-2004, 02:07
Yes it should be legal.
Alfandra
10-10-2004, 02:15
That HMO sounds like something youse ought to get rid of. A comprehensive National Health Insurance in its place would do a much better job.

But to return to the subject, i think most forms of euthanasia should be legal (provided you get rid of HMO-like health scams, err schemes...
Heck Hell
10-10-2004, 18:21
should be passed.

I think it should be done by a doctor
in the quickest and so-called painless
way possible, just the way we put
dogs and cats to sleep because
we love them and dont want to
see them suffer anymore, with drugs
to ease their pains.
Loveliness and hope2
10-10-2004, 20:30
Ok. involuntary, passive euthanasia is difficult. If someone is in a coma it is possible they may recover after many years, but if we are not allowed to turn off life support machines, it means that their family will never be able to grieve properly and possibly, the lives of several people are destroyed.

voluntary, passive euthanasia. Refusing treatment to prolong a life is legal which I believe is correct, including DNR's. However, refusing treatment when there is a chance of life is more difficult, people should be able to die with their families instead of on the operating table, but they should also be given every chance of life.

Voluntary, active euthanasia I believe should be legal if someone is in pain, however i feel more than two doctors should have to agree.
Ravgitia
10-10-2004, 21:12
Yes, but only if it's voluntary.
Homicidal Pacifists
10-10-2004, 21:23
Yes, yes it should.
Nag Ehgoeg
10-10-2004, 21:30
All forms of [volentary] sucide should be legal (providing they don't activly harm others ie no killing yourself in a massive explosion that will level the surrounding block!).

Thus I support volentary euthanasia in all its forms.

Should a person be rendered unable to communicate their wishes they should be killed IF:
1) They have previously set terms under which they would want to terminate there life
2) That 2 docters and a laywer varify that those conditions have been met

PS: HMO = Hibert Moneymaking Organisation :P