NationStates Jolt Archive

Once every 4 years, you get to watch two idiots talk crap on the TV, then vote for one, and suffer the consequences.

The Chartists had the right idea - annual elections. Gives the politicians less time to bugger about with our daily lives, more of their time is wasted raising votes.

Discuss.

Personally I think President should only be allowed to serve one term. Also we need more parites! Not just the Dem and Rep. Comon let Nader play in the sandbox!

I'm voting for Nader, but Badnarik looks better everyday :)

Poor Americans. You have an illusion of democracy.

a 2 party system, where the popular vote means nothing, the real decision is made by something called the Academy Vote. And you dont vote in a party, you vote in a person.

being a canadian, I dont understand any of it.

we have 4 major parties, with anyone able to raise the funds and support able to form their own party.
we only HAVE one vote here.... and the results of that vote determine what party, not person, wins. it can happen that a party wins, but their leader doesnt get voted in. they then get a new leader. lol.

The US doesnt have a democracy. They have a dictatorship pretending to be a democracy. Canada is only a few steps beter.

Then again, what good is democracy, when only 40% of the voters turn out? It doesnt work.
And I'm ranting damnit! lol

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Whatever....

America needs run-off elections, this would encourage multiple parties and be more fair to the voters and eliminated the electorial college.

Poor Americans. You have an illusion of democracy.

a 2 party system, where the popular vote means nothing, the real decision is made by something called the Academy Vote. And you dont vote in a party, you vote in a person.

being a canadian, I dont understand any of it.

we have 4 major parties, with anyone able to raise the funds and support able to form their own party.
we only HAVE one vote here.... and the results of that vote determine what party, not person, wins. it can happen that a party wins, but their leader doesnt get voted in. they then get a new leader. lol.

The US doesnt have a democracy. They have a dictatorship pretending to be a democracy. Canada is only a few steps beter.

Then again, what good is democracy, when only 40% of the voters turn out? It doesnt work.
And I'm ranting damnit! lol

LOL. It's a two party system in the sense that there's only two major parties, there's more parties out there, and it's *not* a dictatorship (there's this thing called checks and balances, you should look it up ;) ).

edit: there's a reason why we have an electoral college. We have a big country, and as a group Californians may see things differently than say people from Oklahoma.

Poor Americans. You have an illusion of democracy.

a 2 party system, where the popular vote means nothing, the real decision is made by something called the Academy Vote. And you dont vote in a party, you vote in a person.

being a canadian, I dont understand any of it.

we have 4 major parties, with anyone able to raise the funds and support able to form their own party.
we only HAVE one vote here.... and the results of that vote determine what party, not person, wins. it can happen that a party wins, but their leader doesnt get voted in. they then get a new leader. lol.

The US doesnt have a democracy. They have a dictatorship pretending to be a democracy. Canada is only a few steps beter.

Then again, what good is democracy, when only 40% of the voters turn out? It doesnt work.
And I'm ranting damnit! lol
...It is called the Electoral Vote, the Academy Vote is for an Oscar.
The united states currently has what is called a Representative Democracy, this was designed so that smaller states would not be made impotent in the election process by much larger ones(avoiding Mob Rule).
....Academy Vote....my G-d.

I'm voting for Nader, but Badnarik looks better everyday :)

Interesting, I always see those two as opposites.

Interesting, I always see those two as opposites.

Nader's my "Anyone but Bush or Kerry" vote :p . I'd agree with some of the Libertarian principles but some of them just seem wacky :D

edit: also I'd like to see to it that neither the republican nor democratic parties see the 22nd century, so Im going to do my part and support a third party, I just have to find one that will do the least amount of damage to the US haha

Personnaly I hate political campaigns and would much rather a politician who spent 6 months doing work rather than convincing people he/she/it will do work if they get re-elected.

But when you have the choice between the democracys we live in where we do get a say about who leads the country and other countrys where if you think somebody else should lead you get shot until you are a pile of goo, i know which system i prefer.

I don't think it's fair to criticize a canadian for mising up "electoral college" and "academy vote" unless you are considerably more familiar with the Canadian system of democracy.

Academy Vote is for actors and directors and the Hollywood lot.
It is not related to government what so ever.
It also demostrates he didnt even make even the most mediocre attempt at fact checking before he decided to insult Americans.
So fair would have been before being critical of a system-which is obviously unfamiliar(which leads to how can he honestly can be critical without being informed) he could have opened a book or went online to do some research.
SO no, I was not unfair.
Unfair wouldve been if I had not corrected him and allowed to walk around sounding like an idiot.

And you dont vote in a party, you vote in a person.
Whats wrong with voting in a person rather than a party? Sometimes a group of people's views might not coincide with any particular party's views, so they would get screwed in their representation if they could only vote in a party.

Just agive each party a small public fund and an equal one, that way they all get an even chance based on policies and not their campaign budget. A couple of million dollars would be worth it for an even footing for all parties.

Im English and Id support that system in the UK too.

I don't think it's fair to criticize a canadian for mising up "electoral college" and "academy vote" unless you are considerably more familiar with the Canadian system of democracy.
True, but it's fair to criticize the crap out of Paul Martin and the Liberals. Though, they are preferrable to *shudder* Stephan Harper and the Neo-Cons...I mean New Conservatives.