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It was with great sadness that I heard on the radio this morning of another “execution” in Iraq. It’s time that our governments (all those who are suffering attacks from Islamic fundamentalists) realise that retribution is necessary. This retribution must be so awful that the terrorists will not do it again.

What retribution do you suggest? You can not do something humanely which is savage enough to deter other people who have been blinded by fanaticism. You can not exterminate whole villages due to the actions of a minority, that will just inspire heightened terrorism and executions.

No matter what you do, you can't win :(.

It was with great sadness that I heard on the radio this morning of another “execution” in Iraq. It’s time that our governments (all those who are suffering attacks from Islamic fundamentalists) realise that retribution is necessary. This retribution must be so awful that the terrorists will not do it again.


I am not usually bloodthirsty but honestly this seems like a horrible way to draw sympathy to your cause.

Executing the prisoners of other countries … what effect did they think it was going to have? Specially when you are ALREADY at war with the countries in question.

We need to hit them and hit them hard

The only choice to end these executions is for countries to remove their troops and personnel from Iraq. No other option is debatable.

The only choice to end these executions is for countries to remove their troops and personnel from Iraq. No other option is debatable.
Lol any point of view is debatable

(see even the point of it being debatable is debatable)

(see even the point of it being debatable is debatable)
that's debatable

Cut negotiations. Set a deadline for the insurgents to disarm and surrender and the civilians to get outta Dodge. Then level the place.

that's debatable
yes it is :-) my point exactly

What retribution do you suggest? You can not do something humanely which is savage enough to deter other people who have been blinded by fanaticism. You can not exterminate whole villages due to the actions of a minority, that will just inspire heightened terrorism and executions.

Oh you can wipe it out by brutalising them, it's just the people in a democracy might not like it so much, hehe.

I'm sorry.

I forgot that the -only- reason these groups can even get their hands on the civvy's and military personnel is because they ARE IN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I'm sorry. But I have no sympathy for people who shouldn't be there in the first place. SOme are there for greed, others because their president lied to them and the rest because their elected leaders are idiots who listen to lies.

Hey, here's a brilliant solution.

Get your butts out of Iraq and the entire Middle East, and stop supporting these dictatorship you have propped up.

If you really want to seek retribution, be my guests.. We don't have any buildings standing in Iraq. Another few thousand tomahawks won't do anything much, except maybe bring about the collapse of the American economy, which is always a welcome thought.

Oh.. another thing.. I am currently watching SkyNews, and the reports are "UNCONFIRMED"...

I guess the easiest solution would be to remove the world's military from their hometowns. How would any of us feel if a foreign nation imposed their soldiers in our cities to police the area? America seeks to maintain the peace in these areas because the government needs the oil. If the United States and its Allies left all of those people to themselves they would just kill each other, and I think that's the best way to handle it.

What retribution do you suggest? You can not do something humanely which is savage enough to deter other people who have been blinded by fanaticism. You can not exterminate whole villages due to the actions of a minority, that will just inspire heightened terrorism and executions.

Terrorists must be executed in a matter that insures they do not reach a happy afterlife (according to their religion). If it is found that villages are harboring terrorists and alternative methods cannot be found then we must consider the possibility of exterminating the village. However, I would consult experts on this culture first for alternatives and only use this recourse in the event that it is the only realistic solution. (Yeah, I know that makes us as bad as them.)

No matter what you do, you can't win :(.
We must do what it takes to win. We have no alternative.

Oh you can wipe it out by brutalising them, it's just the people in a democracy might not like it so much, hehe.
Another good point … varing set of “rules”

I'm sorry.

I forgot that the -only- reason these groups can even get their hands on the civvy's and military personnel is because they ARE IN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I'm sorry. But I have no sympathy for people who shouldn't be there in the first place. SOme are there for greed, others because their president lied to them and the rest because their elected leaders are idiots who listen to lies.

Im sorry but with the makeup of most of the hostages (relief workers) really that is like telling a woman that was raped that she shouldn’t have been in that parking garage … I mean the military personnel yes I can see that but civilian relief workers that more then likely were in their own way upset at our government real is kind of over the top

I am anti war don’t get me wrong but still ..

Cut negotiations. Set a deadline for the insurgents to disarm and surrender and the civilians to get outta Dodge. Then level the place.

That was tried in Vietnam. It didn't work.

instead of using bullets use pigs blood
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before someone flames me I am only joking

The only choice to end these executions is for countries to remove their troops and personnel from Iraq. No other option is debatable.


Stupid comment, if you don't mind me saying.

instead of using bullets use pigs blood
That'll definatally scare them off

LOL

That was tried in Vietnam. It didn't work.

...with nukes.

Well bombing the entire country is not an option. Other than this, there is nothing else.

Well bombing the entire country is not an option. Other than this, there is nothing else.
But it is. Terrorists just don't care about themselves or their family.

That'll definatally scare them off

LOL

maybe we could hit them with shoes?

maybe we could hit them with shoes?
wave our testicles in their aunts' direction

But it is. Terrorists just don't care about themselves or their family.
Terrorists not, but the many civilians who are not terrorists should not have to suffer needlessly.

Terrorists not, but the many civilians who are not terrorists should not have to suffer needlessly.
Exactly. But name one war where civilians were spared. The sad eventuality is that some, if not many, civilians die during any conflict.

I guess the easiest solution would be to remove the world's military from their hometowns. How would any of us feel if a foreign nation imposed their soldiers in our cities to police the area? America seeks to maintain the peace in these areas because the government needs the oil. If the United States and its Allies left all of those people to themselves they would just kill each other, and I think that's the best way to handle it.

I'd be all for your solution if I thought it would work. Unfortunately I think these Islamic fundamentalists believe they've a mandate from god to convert or kill anyone in the world who does not accept Islam. If we leave they may leave us alone for a while bit eventually their religious fervor will cause them to come after us.
I think going into Iraq was stupid, especially under the pretext. This problem is WAY beyond Iraq though.

Exactly. But name one war where civilians were spared. The sad eventuality is that some, if not many, civilians die during any conflict.
Officially the Iraq war ended a while ago. Remember Bush and "Mission Accomplished"? Yet sacrificing civilians needlessly like this is murder and should be condemned to the full force of the law in the US.

I'd be all for your solution if I thought it would work. Unfortunately I think these Islamic fundamentalists believe they've a mandate from god to convert or kill anyone in the world who does not accept Islam. If we leave they may leave us alone for a while bit eventually their religious fervor will cause them to come after us.
I think going into Iraq was stupid, especially under the pretext. This problem is WAY beyond Iraq though.
Strange... and I thought it's Bush + neocon posse and the US military who take the right to kill anyone "anywhere on the globe" and excempt themselves from international law. Pretending to "accept Islam" is something different than leaving them alone to their own affairs. The US constantly meddle in foreign affairs or use their military to intimidate/bomb nations into submission, that it is a wonder that this opposition against the US has not spread elsewhere yet.