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Gwen Iffel sucked

Bunglejinx
07-10-2004, 21:20
Does anyone else agree? Several times during the debate there was confusion about who's turn it was to speak, and she seemed to stutter now and then on questions. I remember that at least once she gave Edwards 30 seconds for a rebuttal that he wasn't supposed to have (at the end, when closing arguments were to be made). Am I the only one who thought this during the debate?
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 21:21
Does anyone else agree? Several times during the debate there was confusion about who's turn it was to speak, and she seemed to stutter now and then on questions. Am I the only one who thought this during the debate?
This point has been brought up thousands of times. Welcome to yesterday.
Chess Squares
07-10-2004, 21:21
shes not allowed to conduct a debate again, ever
Bunglejinx
07-10-2004, 21:23
This point has been brought up thousands of times. Welcome to yesterday.

hmm.. hadn't heard. I wasn't sure if this topic had been brought up, so I thought I should do it.
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 21:25
hmm.. hadn't heard. I wasn't sure if this topic had been brought up, so I thought I should do it.
There hasn't been an individual thread dedicated to her yet, but as there is a general consensus with no dissenting views that she did indeed suck, there is no need for a thread...unless we also need a thread to talk about the fact that the sky is indeed blue(ish) (most of the time).
La Ventisca del Fuego
07-10-2004, 21:31
She did a nice job of forgetting the Vice-President was sitting to her left and Senator to her right.
Biff Pileon
07-10-2004, 21:41
PBS anchors should never be allowed to moderate. They are not the best available nor are they unbiased.
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 21:43
PBS anchors should never be allowed to moderate. They are not the best available nor are they unbiased.
...how can a question be biased? More importantly, how could a human be unbiased?
Biff Pileon
07-10-2004, 21:46
...how can a question be biased? More importantly, how could a human be unbiased?

Questions can be leading....have you ever watched Dan Rather's interview of Clinton? Dan worded the questions in such a way that he almost answered them too. Questions cannot be biased per se, but the person asking can ask questions in a way that shows their bias.
Snowboarding Maniacs
07-10-2004, 22:02
Even though I usually vehemently disagree with Biff Pileon, he's right this time. :)
PBS tends to be pretty liberal (at least socially). Also, I didn't pay too close attention to how questions were phrased or whatnot, but I wouldn't be too surprised if I went back and double checked, and found she did phrase them in a way that favored Edwards.
Bunglejinx
07-10-2004, 22:08
Questions can be leading....have you ever watched Dan Rather's interview of Clinton? Dan worded the questions in such a way that he almost answered them too. Questions cannot be biased per se, but the person asking can ask questions in a way that shows their bias.

True. Questions can be biased. However, I don't think Iffel was. Or at least not in a way that could really matter much in the debate.
Biff Pileon
07-10-2004, 22:13
True. Questions can be biased. However, I don't think Iffel was. Or at least not in a way that could really matter much in the debate.

Maybe not, but PBS is a bastion of liberalism. Walter kronkite would have been an excellent choice.
Cogitation
07-10-2004, 22:20
There hasn't been an individual thread dedicated to her yet, but as there is a general consensus with no dissenting views that she did indeed suck, there is no need for a thread...unless we also need a thread to talk about the fact that the sky is indeed blue(ish) (most of the time).
[Emphasis mine.]

Speaking unofficially, here, I'm curious: How do you figure that there's no need for a thread?

It seems perfectly valid to me to start a thread* stating ones opinion and asking for other opinions; some people don't know a-priori how many other people hold similar or opposed opinions.

shes not allowed to conduct a debate again, ever
Is this a statement of your opinion? ...or did someone with some kind of authority actually decide to prohibit her from conducting a debate ever again?

I assume the former, but wanted to double-check.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

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* ...assuming that there isn't another thread on the exact same subject-of-discussion, which I don't think there is in this case.
MunkeBrain
08-10-2004, 04:18
Does anyone else agree? Several times during the debate there was confusion about who's turn it was to speak, and she seemed to stutter now and then on questions. I remember that at least once she gave Edwards 30 seconds for a rebuttal that he wasn't supposed to have (at the end, when closing arguments were to be made). Am I the only one who thought this during the debate?
She was horrible.