NationStates Jolt Archive

New York's highschool for gay teenagers is open for discussion.

Do we really need to create such a large focus of targets?

If you wanted to physically or non physically attack a teen because of their sexual preferences, wouldn't it be easier to do if they were all gathered in one school where their usually unrecognizable identities are confirmed?

My first thought was imagining the future of this school closing after horrific casualties. I don't think it's a "fabulous" idea to bring so many homosexuals together under one roof for five days everyweek when even our most basic public schools have come under assault.

I see nothing good in this school's future.

It's optional you realize. You don't have to go there. Nor can they stop any straight students who wish to attend from doing so.

How many stupid bigots are going to see it that way? It only takes the one idiot to endanger their lives. I know America, that school will not be safe.

...uhm...just make it an all guys school...everything else will fall into place. no uproar, no terrorist attacks.

...uhm...just make it an all guys school...everything else will fall into place. no uproar, no terrorist attacks.

No uproar my asss.

The NOW would be up in arms and cryout that an all guys school is sexist.

No uproar my asss.

The NOW would be up in arms and cryout that an all guys school is sexist.
no way. just declare it a school like in the 'good old days'. make the republican's sons go there. it'd be fun! :D

How many violent attacks against homosexuals are there at Gay Pride Parades? Versus when there is one or two homosexuals isolated? I think the argument that they are less safe in large numbers defies logic. It is a place where they can be who they are without worrying what the other kids are going to do about it. They are protected because there are numbers.

As for the danger of a singular attack (some jackass bombing it or running a car into it or other such nonsense), that is far easier to protect against than individual Laramey situations.

...uhm...just make it an all guys school...everything else will fall into place. no uproar, no terrorist attacks.
i cant think of any crazy people with a generel blind fundamental hatred for all guys, even militant feminists

i cant think of any crazy people with a generel blind fundamental hatred for all guys, even militant feminists
that's the genius of my plan! there are none! it's like they're 'under cover students'
gays disguised as guys.
aren't i just so smrt? ;)

It's been around for a few years now, and nothing has happened so far.
The idea behind the school is that the students won't have to fear being persecuted by their peers for their sexual orientation. I really don't think that homophobic zealots are going to transfer into a "gay" school just to beat up a few kids. Especially when they would wind up getting their asses kicked through sheer numbers. I don't think it's in any serious danger of being bombed either.

How many violent attacks against homosexuals are there at Gay Pride Parades? Versus when there is one or two homosexuals isolated? I think the argument that they are less safe in large numbers defies logic. It is a place where they can be who they are without worrying what the other kids are going to do about it. They are protected because there are numbers.

As for the danger of a singular attack (some jackass bombing it or running a car into it or other such nonsense), that is far easier to protect against than individual Laramey situations.

I was going to say something similar.

Most gay-bashers are cowards who like to bully people who are not like themselves. They prefer to corner a lone victim or two, depending on how many moron friends the basher has helping him. I doubt they could get a group large enough to take on the whole school.

I was going to say something similar.

Most gay-bashers are cowards who like to bully people who are not like themselves. They prefer to corner a lone victim or two, depending on how many moron friends the basher has helping him. I doubt they could get a group large enough to take on the whole school.
thats only if they intend to "bully" them, a bomb or shoot up doesnt need more htan one person

This isn't right. Seperating two different types of people to different schools, I mean. That just worsens the problem. It's attacking the effect (bullying,) not the cause. The cause is people thinking they are better than someone else.

This isn't right. Seperating two different types of people to different schools, I mean. That just worsens the problem. It's attacking the effect (bullying,) not the cause. The cause is people thinking they are better than someone else.

Its optional, nobody's seperating anyone. I think the point is that people who feel at risk or are frightened to express themselves in a regular high school for fear of bullying from the other students can elect to attend.

And as to this whole notion that its dangerous to for gays to group together, well rubbish. Look at the village in NYC, it has a huge concentration of gay people and has for years, yet there have been no "attacks" like you are describing.

I think you need to understand the context of the school better. Its not a school exclusively for gays. And its in the middle of manhattan, not the center of some texas town.

How many violent attacks against homosexuals are there at Gay Pride Parades? Versus when there is one or two homosexuals isolated? I think the argument that they are less safe in large numbers defies logic. It is a place where they can be who they are without worrying what the other kids are going to do about it. They are protected because there are numbers.

As for the danger of a singular attack (some jackass bombing it or running a car into it or other such nonsense), that is far easier to protect against than individual Laramey situations.

The difference between the parades or celebrations and a high school is that the high school is the constant. These kids are grouped in a building, not an open area in full view of everyone. I stand by what I say, something terrible will happen at Harvey Milk High School.

The difference between the parades or celebrations and a high school is that the high school is the constant. These kids are grouped in a building, not an open area in full view of everyone. I stand by what I say, something terrible will happen at Harvey Milk High School.I agree with CToaN on this--the school acts far more like a protection than it does as a target. And besides, bigots are chicken shits at heart--they're tough when they roll up on a guy alone, or on a couple and they're a gang, but even the odds and they bail. Make the odds against them, and they look for a softer target.

I don't agree with it for this reason. It isn't good to isolate any kid for any reason. These kids are going to have to face the rest of the world at one point the earlier the better. Harvey Milk High School is just an excuse for other schools to say, "well we don't have the funds to protect and teach these kids."
Harvey Milk will also be a target anyone who doesen't believe that is living in a fairy tale world.
Its also discriminatory, I think its wrong to spend New York tax dollars on a school like this. Look at Morris High School it is in dire need of funds. It was never even meant to be a school it was a skating rink. The parent teacher ratio there is nearing 60 to 1. Every student is only afforded $1,000 of education. Some of the bathrooms don't have running water. Morris is hardly an isolated case there are many other schools like it.

Am I the only one that thinks publicly funded segregated schools should have ended with Brown vrs. Board of Education?

READ MORE CAREFULLY, PEOPLE.

The school is NOT segragated. Anyone can go there. It is OPTIONAL.

And saying that putting all the gays together will invite a bombing and that is reason enough not to have the school, well, that's just ignorant. You are saying that we should leave the kids to deal with the bullies on an individual level, so that some poor bully won't be tempted to bomb the whole group.

Don't you think that dealing with the irrational hatred of the bully is the more important goal than keeping him from being aggravated at the thought of a large group of homosexuals?

It's like saying we shouldn't have any abortion clinics because someone might bomb them. That's retarded. Even if you want to argue against abortion clinics, "to keep the sociopaths from bombing" is a really poor argument.