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what would happen if all 4 canidates (Bush, Kerry, Edwards, Cheney,) alll jumped off a cliff or more correctly dragged/threw each other off.

I belive the Leader of the House takes over till they can run another election.

New nominations and Nader would still lose. Republicans would probably win the election.

I belive the Leader of the House takes over till they can run another election.
Well...President Pro Temp of Senate (I think) becomes President until January 20th, but new candidates run for the elections on November 2nd.

I would yay. No more Cheney, bush, or kerry. Edwards would become necrophiliac bait.

Dennis Hastert, the speaker of the House of Representatives, is after Cheney in the order of succession

Since there are 3rd party candidates... would they not sort of win by default?

:sniper: Personally, I think it would be interesting if, right as the winner were announced, terrorists blew up both of the headquarters of the candidates (or where ever they are partying) simultaneously. That would be interesting...

Dennis Hastert, the speaker of the House of Representatives, is after Cheney in the order of succession



Soo... the end result would be... destruction of the united states.

Soo... the end result would be... destruction of the united states.
Well, no- see, the 20th amendment says ""Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President shall have qualified", and being dead means you don't qualify. The traditional order of succession would indicate Hastert, but given how little regard the current administration has for the Constitution, they'd probably skip straight to Ashcroft, which would mean the destruction of the WORLD.

The NS forum would be crawling with conspiracies of who pushed first.

what would happen if all 4 canidates (Bush, Kerry, Edwards, Cheney,) alll jumped off a cliff or more correctly dragged/threw each other off.
they would all be dead. which is sad, cause that would mean no president for you. but hey, wait half a year, new elections, blablabla, back to where we started ;)

If that happens America should be split back up into the original colonies and re-distributed under European control...or we could just let the American Indians take over ;)

If that happens America should be split back up into the original colonies and re-distributed under European control...or we could just let the American Indians take over ;)
ooor, you could just sell bits and pieces of it...




I claim HAWAIIIIIIII !! :D

what would happen if all 4 canidates (Bush, Kerry, Edwards, Cheney,) alll jumped off a cliff or more correctly dragged/threw each other off.
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what would with any certainty actualy happen i'm not so sure anyone can say. oh there are constitutional procceedures in place for the continuation of government and the election would as likely as not go ahead as scheduled, with i think it is the majority leader of the house warming the chair in the oval office until then.

but more importantly as long as donald rumsfield and karl rove were still in the picture we'd still have basicly the same mess we have now, especialy with john ashcroft remaining attorny general untill the next inaugeration.

we might stand a better chance of getting someone really decent in there like peter camajo or jerry brown.

there wouldn't be a lot of time for campaigning unless the election was delayed for a year.

the republicans might come up with a real conservative and the dems like i say come up with someone who could and would offer a real alternative and be proud to do so.

the greens and the libertarians might stand a real chance too.

you might see some REAL chainges. and then againg you might not. there are so many things that could have chainged and improved over the years that have so often only continued to deteriorate that i'm not so sure anything that drastic would really be as signifigant as it sounds it at first sounds.

remember it isn't the personalities, but the policies, not only whatever their real agendas might be themselves, but those of their backers and promoters as well.

there are however quite a number of loose end factors that i really lack the data to meaningfully predict and there are wild card possibilities. and as i said, no real certainties, other then that constitutional protocals would be almost certainly be fallowed, at least initialy.

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ooor, you could just sell bits and pieces of it...

I claim HAWAIIIIIIII !! :D


I claim New Orleans. Never been there but it looks like a hell of a laugh :)

I'd seize dictatorial power over the nation. :D

Well, no- see, the 20th amendment says ""Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President shall have qualified", and being dead means you don't qualify. The traditional order of succession would indicate Hastert, but given how little regard the current administration has for the Constitution, they'd probably skip straight to Ashcroft, which would mean the destruction of the WORLD.

I doubt that. Ashcroft is a tool. As long as they're disregarding the Constitution, they might as well appoint Arnold Sch*@$%!#ger, who has also become quite a tool himself, I guess. But you know, you're supposed to use the right tool for the right job. Arnold would make a much better dictator.

I claim New Orleans. Never been there but it looks like a hell of a laugh :)

It IS! And during Mardi Gras ... wow! :D

Amendment XX

Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Order of Presidential Succession:

The Vice President Richard Cheney
Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Ted Stevens
Secretary of State Colin Powell
Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General John Ashcroft
Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture Ann M. Veneman
Secretary of Commerce Donald Evans
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy G. Thompson
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham
Secretary of Education Roderick Paige
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Anthony J. Principi
Secretary of Homeland Security2 Tom Ridge

So, if the President, Vice President, Speaker, and President Pro Temp all died after the president is elected, but before he can get secretaries sworn in...supposing Kerry won the General Election, the presidency would swing right back into the hands of the Republicans.

So, if the President, Vice President, Speaker, and President Pro Temp all died after the president is elected, but before he can get secretaries sworn in...supposing Kerry won the General Election, the presidency would swing right back into the hands of the Republicans.

Hmm. I think the original post indicated that both of the Presidential and both of the Vice-Presidental candidates self-destructed, right? Then the succession would follow the list. The only way the succession would devolve onto Secretary of State, Colin Powell, is if all the others in the succession were to become somehow incapacitated due to death or whatever.

In the scenario you suggest, as I understand it, Secretary Powell would assume office as acting President only until such time as Kerry would assume office on Inaguration Day. I think that's right, anyway.

Hmm. I think the original post indicated that both of the Presidential and both of the Vice-Presidental candidates self-destructed, right? Then the succession would follow the list. The only way the succession would devolve onto Secretary of State, Colin Powell, is if all the others in the succession were to become somehow incapacitated due to death or whatever.

In the scenario you suggest, as I understand it, Secretary Powell would assume office as acting President only until such time as Kerry would assume office on Inaguration Day. I think that's right, anyway.
The original scenario suggests that Kerry, Edwards, Cheney, and Bush all die. I am adding that if the Speaker of the House as well as the President Pro Tempore of the senate were also killed (although, I think they're Republican too), the Colin Powell would be acting president...and it'd be hard to get a Democrat in there since Kerry and Edwards would not have even nominated secretaries yet much less get them sworn in. They themselves wouldn't've even been sworn in.

The original scenario suggests that Kerry, Edwards, Cheney, and Bush all die. I am adding that if the Speaker of the House as well as the President Pro Tempore of the senate were also killed (although, I think they're Republican too), the Colin Powell would be acting president...and it'd be hard to get a Democrat in there since Kerry and Edwards would not have even nominated secretaries yet much less get them sworn in. They themselves wouldn't've even been sworn in.

They would assume office on Inauguration Day and then proceed to appoint their own cabinet.

They would assume office on Inauguration Day and then proceed to appoint their own cabinet.
Who is "they"? The corpses of Kerry and Edward?

what would happen if all 4 canidates (Bush, Kerry, Edwards, Cheney,) alll jumped off a cliff or more correctly dragged/threw each other off.

Something like this:

:eek: :confused: :( :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :eek: :D ;) :fluffle:

That seems a good line of events.

Something like this:

:eek: :confused: :( :mp5: :mp5: :eek: :D ;) :fluffle:

That seems a good line of events.
what no biological weapons? :gundge: ?