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*I wonder if Bush is tapping all of our phones?

Book: U.S. Spied On Jacques Chriac
A new book published in France has accused the US of regularly spying on French President Jacques Chirac by tapping his phone. The book's title translated into English is "Chirac versus Bush, the Other War." One U.S. official reportedly told the authors, "The relationship between your president and ours is irreparable on the personal level. You have to understand that President Bush knows exactly what President Chirac thinks of him." The surveillance was possible because Chirac rarely uses secure phone lines. Last year British whistleblower Katherine Gun leaked internal documents that showed the US was spying on other nations in the Security Council in the lead up to the Iraq invasion. Former British minister Clare Short has also publicly said Tony Blair's government spied on UN Secretary General Kofi Annan at his UN headquarters in New York in the run-up to the Iraq war. The new book also charges that France was preparing to provide as many as 15,000 troops to the Iraq effort but didn't after relationships soured between the Bush administration and Chirac.

www.demonocracynow.org

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Bush is most definitely taping our phones. In fact, john "big brother " Ashcroft is probably reading this. john, despite what you might have heard, i swear to god im not an atheist...



whew, that was close...

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Trickery :(

I fell for it :(

Is it really that far-fetched? Remember, this is the same administration that spied on UN delegates!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3489254.stm
"Mrs Gun was accused of leaking US spies' request for UK help to bug UN delegates ahead of the Iraq invasion."

Hey John. You are in more need of a blowjob than any white man in history. :)

A Good Morning, Vietnam fan, I see. :)

OOoohh, wow. Bush is spying on another world leader. We spy on the French, the French spy on us. It's what countries do.

Egads! My phone is bugged! :eek: Help, men in black suits with submachine guns are storming in here! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalp!

A Good Morning, Vietnam fan, I see. :)

:D One of my favorite insults.

Nothing is to low for Bush.

all of europe should threaten to cut off diplomatic relations with america if Bush gets re-elected

all of europe should threaten to cut off diplomatic relations with america if Bush gets re-elected
but that won't happen, becasue britan likes us a little and we don't use anything from any other Europeons anyway.

but that won't happen, becasue britan likes us a little and we don't use anything from any other Europeons anyway.I know but Bush needs to be contained

Spying on the phones isn't that bad. I am more appaled about how Bush often single's out France when talking about international opposition to America. Its sad.

but that won't happen, becasue britan likes us a little and we don't use anything from any other Europeons anyway.

Except for massive, massive trade.

Except for massive, massive trade.
oh well, anyhow they won't it would be a half assed attempt to get america under their control wwIII any one?

I know but Bush needs to be contained
no you need to be contained.

oh well, anyhow they won't it would be a half assed attempt to get america under their control wwIII any one?

Wow. That took me 5 minutes to read, both surprisingly and sadly.

America would have no moral high-ground if it took action. It would have pretty much every prominent european and asian country against us. In addition, though american citizens wouldn't like having relations cut, they would be against starting a huge war. It would be 1812 with nukes.

Wow. That took me 5 minutes to read, both surprisingly and sadly.

America would have no moral high-ground if it took action. It would have pretty much every prominent european and asian country against us. In addition, though american citizens wouldn't like having relations cut, they would be against starting a huge war. It would be 1812 with nukes.
avtually america would who we elect should not be under anyone else control ever.

It's just a continuation of the U.S. Government's attitude. America wants to tell the world what to do, but never wants to be told what to do by the world.

Nothing America does suprises me anymore.

My goodness, the conspiracy theories just keep popping up. Did you know Bill Clinton had political enemies of Hillary Clinton .. well let's just say they disappeared under "mysterious" circumstances.

John Kerry missed Senate Intelligence committee votes to quote "Have dinner early tonight."

Tom Daschle spies on the opponents (Native Americans) who dared to challenge his authority with illegal wire tapping.

I have Jesus in my back pocket.

Some of these are true. The last one is obvious, at least to me. I'm wearing sweats that don't have any pockets. HOWEVER, the original poster might be able to get a decent job working as a fact checker for Michael Moore, or on Howard Dean's reelection committee.

My goodness, the conspiracy theories just keep popping up. Did you know Bill Clinton had political enemies of Hillary Clinton .. well let's just say they disappeared under "mysterious" circumstances.

John Kerry missed Senate Intelligence committee votes to quote "Have dinner early tonight."

Tom Daschle spies on the opponents (Native Americans) who dared to challenge his authority with illegal wire tapping.

I have Jesus in my back pocket.

Some of these are true. The last one is obvious, at least to me. I'm wearing sweats that don't have any pockets. HOWEVER, the original poster might be able to get a decent job working as a fact checker for Michael Moore, or on Howard Dean's reelection committee.I don't understand why everybody is calling that conspiracy theory.
It is a well known fact that the US is spying like mad. There is that Echelon thing. I remember last year when they sold that boeing to the chinese president. They've found several tapes in the EU as well.

Spying on the phones isn't that bad.
it isn't?

Is it really that far-fetched? Remember, this is the same administration that spied on UN delegates!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3489254.stm
"Mrs Gun was accused of leaking US spies' request for UK help to bug UN delegates ahead of the Iraq invasion."

Hey Psylos, now you know how I feel... I get called a "conspiracy theorist" everytime I mention facts brought up in the Iran-contra case... It's like everybody is willing themselves into ignorance.

Hey Psylos, now you know how I feel... I get called a "conspiracy theorist" everytime I mention facts brought up in the Iran-contra case... It's like everybody is willing themselves into ignorance.
Indeed. They think the CIA is only looking for terrorists with that kick ass budget.
Welcome to the real world people.

avtually america would who we elect should not be under anyone else control ever.

The American government, in theory, is just the peoples will. If America stays true to its democratic(republican) name, it won't do what the people don't want. If it unitairaly declares war on a bunch of 1st world countries over this, lets just say that vietnam was a cake-walk in protests.

They all probably tap each others phones. So what, get over it.

Who cares? Everybody spies on the US. We should spy on everbody else. Hell, I say bug the Vatican. You never know what those Swiss guards are up to.

They all probably tap each others phones. So what, get over it.
nowadays, it is more the USA than any other country. We never hear about China taping Japan.

nowadays, it is more the USA than any other country. We never hear about China taping Japan.

If they are doing their jobs properly....you will never hear about it. ;)

Who cares? Everybody spies on the US. We should spy on everbody else. Hell, I say bug the Vatican. You never know what those Swiss guards are up to.I don't hink so. Echelon is a US initiative. In most european countries, taping is illegal (not in the UK).

If they are doing their jobs properly....you will never hear about it. ;)Sooner or later.

Damn, I should stop having phone sex... ;)

but that won't happen, becasue britan likes us a little and we don't use anything from any other Europeons anyway.

Get real, even your top tank, the Abrahams needs the EU defence industry, while they want the cannon of the latest LeopardII that outclasses the Abrahams as best tank in the World.

That is only the millitary, just think about the economy and all the stuff the uS imports and trades with Europe.

all of europe should threaten to cut off diplomatic relations with america if Bush gets re-elected
Crap idea.

Well, Leopard is also constantly upgraded. According to tests...
http://www.forecast1.com/press/press1.htm (done by americans by the way)

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Who cares? Everybody spies on the US. We should spy on everbody else. Hell, I say bug the Vatican. You never know what those Swiss guards are up to.
It was my understanding that the Vatican was in Italy. I don't know where you get your Swiss guards from. Unless you want to tap two completely unrelated groups...

Crap idea.

Totall crap idea. Espicially since Saddam paid off French leaders.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041007-123838-3146r.htm

It was my understanding that the Vatican was in Italy. I don't know where you get your Swiss guards from. Unless you want to tap two completely unrelated groups...
The Swiss guard is protecting the Vaticans. You realy prove that you don´t now much about Europe, although you are a Canadian.
The Swiss were great warriors who fought as "contractors" especially during the 30-year-war (1618-48). The Swiss guard is a left-over of this time and protecting the Vaticans. They have funny uniforms.

The Swiss guard is protecting the Vaticans. You realy prove that you don´t now much about Europe, although you are a Canadian.
The Swiss were great warriors who fought as "contractors" especially during the 30-year-war (1618-48). The Swiss guard is a left-over of this time and protecting the Vaticans. They have funny uniforms.
Thanks. I always refer to them as "zouave" as french is my mother tongue. I just didn't know they were called Swiss in english.

Now that I have learned something new today, I can happily go to bed. :)

Thanks. I always refer to them as "zouave" as french is my mother tongue. I just didn't know they were called Swiss in english.
Not just in English but also in German.
Since they are from Switzerland that is rather a clear name.
Good night anyway.

Totall crap idea. Espicially since Saddam paid off French leaders.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041007-123838-3146r.htm

So, Saddam was the leader of a Nation complying with UN sanctions at the time... It's greatest sin was using weapons sold to it by the Reagon Administration in a war that the US funded both sides of, and then invading a country that was slant drilling into their oil fields.

Compare that to Bush's Taleban connection http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

Or the Bush-bin Laden Caryle Group connection

if anyone....spyes are good for the death penalty

*smacks head* I forgot, only Republicans are bad people when it comes to national defense. I don't know why I bother to take Poly Sci classes in the middle east when I can just cruise down the street and read the sign in people's lawns.

*smacks head* I forgot, only Republicans are bad people when it comes to national defense. I don't know why I bother to take Poly Sci classes in the middle east when I can just cruise down the street and read the sign in people's lawns.
I dont either--you must like wasting your money

but that won't happen, becasue britan likes us a little and we don't use anything from any other Europeons anyway.

*Remembers seeing the "You say potatoe we say fuck you" signs when Bush visited England*

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nowadays, it is more the USA than any other country. We never hear about China taping Japan.

Nevertheless, I can guarantee you that they do.

I'm surprised this thread has lasted as long as it has. Aschcroft must be on his break right now from always monitoring everything everywehre. As for Bush, nothing is too scum-bag for him.