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Bush made Arizona mother die of a Broken Heart

MKULTRA
07-10-2004, 02:01
*I guess this is the first "victory" Bush had in his war for corporate looting in Iraq

Mother of Dead GI Dies of "Broken Heart"
And this news From Arizona, a 45-year-old mother died this week just days after learning her son had been killed in Iraq. Friends of Karen Unruh-Wahrer said she hadn't stopped crying after learning her 25-year-old son was killed in Baghdad on Sept. 25. He had been in Iraq for less than a month. She died hours after she saw her son's body. A hospital official said "Her grief was so intense -- it seemed it could have harmed her, could have caused a heart attack. Her husband described it as a broken heart."
New Foxxinnia
07-10-2004, 02:07
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Seraphic Chaos
07-10-2004, 02:13
Thats a horrible incident...and I, as an Arizonan, feel very sad about this.
La Terra di Liberta
07-10-2004, 02:25
This truly shows that Bush doesn't care about the average American because he's sending them off to die in a lie of war for his own perverse reasons.
Roach-Busters
07-10-2004, 02:38
Lemme guess...democracynow, right?
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 02:44
Lemme guess...democracynow, right?
You mean to say that people aren't sad about their children dieing in Iraq? It's all just a big democratic conspiracy?
Roach-Busters
07-10-2004, 02:52
You mean to say that people aren't sad about their children dieing in Iraq? It's all just a big democratic conspiracy?

No, no, not at all. It's just that everything he ever posts is something from democracynow.com, so I just asked if that's where he got this story from.
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 02:54
No, no, not at all. It's just that everything he ever posts is something from democracynow.com, so I just asked if that's where he got this story from.
You're trying to debunk it. It's pretty pointless to debunk. It may or may not be true, but I'm sure that if a loved one died in Iraq, you'd be pretty sad too. The only thing that democracynow would've done is put the tiny bit of political spin on it.
Star Shadow-
07-10-2004, 03:00
You're trying to debunk it. It's pretty pointless to debunk. It may or may not be true, but I'm sure that if a loved one died in Iraq, you'd be pretty sad too. The only thing that democracynow would've done is put the tiny bit of political spin on it.
as tiny as this is clear http://isaac.healdsburg.net/bc170/images/Line%20Setting%20Ticket%20Page%20big.jpg
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 03:05
What is that?
Pyta
07-10-2004, 03:07
It's a similie
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 03:09
It's a similie
What's a similie? And what is that document that Dark Fututre posted? And what relevance does it have to anything?
Pyta
07-10-2004, 03:26
*listens to the whooshing noise the joke makes.

A similie is a comparison of two or more things using like or as, for example: Clear as Mud; Tall as a mountain; as ugly as Rodney Dangerfield is dead.

The similie above is saying that democracynow has put a gigantic spin on everything they do, which they have.
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 03:30
That's a simile. ;)
And even if there is a spin on it, it's pretty much accepted fact that when people's loved ones die, they will be sad.
Voldavia
07-10-2004, 03:32
It may or may not be true, but I'm sure that if a loved one died in Iraq, you'd be pretty sad too.

true

but

Bush made Arizona mother die of a Broken Heart

and then from someone else

This truly shows that Bush doesn't care about the average American because he's sending them off to die in a lie of war for his own perverse reasons.

I'm wondering, do any of you actually know how the vast majority of troops feel about the war?

I'm sure you feel the Chamberlain liberal universe that Kerry adheres to sounds magical, pity that Iran have mocked Kerry for his stance with them *laugh*.
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 03:34
You talk as if the troops' feelings are the only feelings that matter. Granted, it's an important consideration, but it shouldn't be the only one.
Voldavia
07-10-2004, 03:41
You talk as if the troops' feelings are the only feelings that matter. Granted, it's an important consideration, but it shouldn't be the only one.

They're not, except in the argument of "Sending them off to die", it's their lives, not yours, it could be your kid, it's still their life, and their choice, not yours. Using their lives as a bargaining chip for media propaganda when they seem to be of distinctly the opposite view demonstrates both dishonesty and disrespect.
Pyta
07-10-2004, 03:42
That's a simile. ;)
And even if there is a spin on it, it's pretty much accepted fact that when people's loved ones die, they will be sad.

Oh I never said that it wasn't sad, I'm just saying that it is heavily biased. You could probably say, Stress-related Cardiac Arrest, and wouldn't sound nearly as bad.

But its stil very very sad
Opal Isle
07-10-2004, 03:47
They're not, except in the argument of "Sending them off to die", it's their lives, not yours, it could be your kid, it's still their life, and their choice, not yours. Using their lives as a bargaining chip for media propaganda when they seem to be of distinctly the opposite view demonstrates both dishonesty and disrespect.
By that logic, it's okay for my best friend to commit suicide. After all, it's only his life that's affected and not mine, right?
Voldavia
07-10-2004, 04:10
By that logic, it's okay for my best friend to commit suicide. After all, it's only his life that's affected and not mine, right?

Yes it's okay, even though you will be effected, it's still their life. They may choose not to because of the effect it may have, but if they do, it's their decision, their life and you should respect it.
Texastambul
07-10-2004, 04:56
Using their lives as a bargaining chip for media propaganda when they seem to be of distinctly the opposite view demonstrates both dishonesty and disrespect.

Why do you assume that they don't oppose being sent to die for Imperialist looting?
MKULTRA
07-10-2004, 06:36
it should be Cheneys job to have to call up soldiers familys and tell them their kid was killed. Im afraid he might enjoy it tho :mad:
The Force Majeure
07-10-2004, 06:51
they actually ran the story on cnn
MKULTRA
07-10-2004, 06:54
they actually ran the story on cnn
Bush feels more alive when others suffer
Star Shadow-
07-10-2004, 06:55
it should be Cheneys job to have to call up soldiers familys and tell them their kid was killed. Im afraid he might enjoy it tho :mad:
MK give up posting okay few people belive your even sane any more.
MKULTRA
07-10-2004, 06:56
MK give up posting okay few people belive your even sane any more.
dont be a mother hater
Star Shadow-
07-10-2004, 06:57
Bush feels more alive when others suffer
closes eyes and type beginns as if without thought and says "Moron"
New Granada
07-10-2004, 07:00
closes eyes and type beginns as if without thought and says "Moron"


You are the least qualified person on the entire nationstates forum to judge somone a moron.


Though it makes sense that you type things without thinking.

It's because there are problems with your brain.

Or because you are 14 years old.
Gauthier
07-10-2004, 07:50
dont be a mother hater

MOTHER HATER!!

(Throws a brick)
Gymoor
07-10-2004, 08:59
Using this kind of rhetoric to push forward a political agenda does not belong in civilized discourse. While I'm a liberal, I do not condone this kind of propaganda, even if it is intended to make a case against Bush, who I think is despicable. Grow up people, and do not use this kind of tragedy for political ends.
Sileetris
07-10-2004, 17:42
Even though I hate to say it, the views of the troops are heavily skewed by propaganda and (well intentioned) blind patriotism. Their reasons for going to war are very different from the actual, behind the scenes, ones. This war was never about trying to spread the joys of democracy, except in the hearts of the actual troops doing it...

So when someone dies in this war, it is an extra horrible tragedy, because while they meant to do good, they were actually there to enforce someone elses hidden policies. In WW2 at least the family knew that their son had died doing something to help save the world from conquest, now we aren't so sure what our troops are dying for.

I also don't condone use of tragedies to further political agendas, so this is pretty offensive, but the big problem of "Why did this happen?" still looms.
Tuesday Heights
07-10-2004, 18:39
Bush can't be held responsible for a mother not being able to cope with the loss of her son in any circumstances; that would be like saying because someone committed suicide because there was a tax hike was a President's fault. It's illogical.